QUOTE(Virlution @ Jun 16 2025, 03:13 PM)
Not more prone to oversteer?RWD if more prone to understeer
Correct me if I'm wrong
Fatal crash on MEX Highway
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this S curve MEX many F1 drivers.... lansi pek corner...
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QUOTE(thkent91 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:14 PM) fwd are tune not to oversteer, as once it oversteer your car will fishtail and you cannot save it anymore, just pray you dont hit something. Poeple who mod with rear sway bars can sometime cause this to happen.RWD with front engine usually not really prone to oversteer butbalance car or rear engine can oversteer easily. Porsche, MR2, s2000 etc can lift off oversteer easily and you will kiss the pole or tree, usually cannot save as well rwd can oversteer if it is powerful enough, it is call powersliding where you apply enough power for the rear to break traction to step out or like donuts oversteer drifting is before the corner where you flick the car before the apex or hand brake to lose the traction and power it out oversteer at low speed is easy to control, at high speed you better know what you are doing |
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Jun 16 2025, 03:26 PM) fwd are tune not to oversteer, as once it oversteer your car will fishtail and you cannot save it anymore, just pray you dont hit something. Poeple who mod with rear sway bars can sometime cause this to happen. Without any special movesRWD with front engine usually not really prone to oversteer butbalance car or rear engine can oversteer easily. Porsche, MR2, s2000 etc can lift off oversteer easily and you will kiss the pole or tree, usually cannot save as well rwd can oversteer if it is powerful enough, it is call powersliding where you apply enough power for the rear to break traction to step out or like donuts oversteer drifting is before the corner where you flick the car before the apex or hand brake to lose the traction and power it out oversteer at low speed is easy to control, at high speed you better know what you are doing Just the basic release accelerator and brake in mid corner, panicked press accelerator again FWD will maybe fishtail, but being the brakes is front bias, the risk is low, panicking and press back the accelerator will just push the car further to the outside of the corner, thus understeer RWD mean while, lifting accelerator may as well kick the back out, and adding braking shift the weight to the front further, while panicking and press back the accelerator will swing the back out even more, thus oversteer |
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Jun 16 2025, 03:43 PM) Without any special moves this is the lift off oversteer....Just the basic release accelerator and brake in mid corner, panicked press accelerator again FWD will maybe fishtail, but being the brakes is front bias, the risk is low, panicking and press back the accelerator will just push the car further to the outside of the corner, thus understeer RWD mean while, lifting accelerator may as well kick the back out, and adding braking shift the weight to the front further, while panicking and press back the accelerator will swing the back out even more, thus oversteer by default will not happen to majority of cars except RR configuration cars or S2000 most of the time modification of the suspension system, adding stiffer bars, etc then to dial away the original suspension engineer's setup. I used rubbish tires on my RWD to slide about easily in the wet. I can powerslide in any gear at any speed in the wet, but it never lift off oversteer before. I put UHP tires recently, and still learning about it as I dont drive it that often. |
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Modern cars, including many BMWs, are designed with a degree of understeer built in. This is a safety feature to help prevent drivers from losing control, especially in situations like entering a corner too fast.
Oversteer is a result of one of three driver actions: - Applying excessive, sudden throttle in a powerful gear whilst steering (in a rear wheel drive car). - Lifting off the throttle suddenly whilst steering - Excessive ‘trail braking’ In the first instance, the harsh application of too much power can overcome the rear tyres’ traction and create wheelspin, with the lateral inertia from the steering input causing the spinning tyres to slide sideways. In the last two instances, excessive forward weight transfer leaves the now light rear tyres with little grip, resulting in an oversteer slide when the heavily laden front tyres turn into a bend. This is known as ‘lift-off’ oversteer and can affect all cars, whether with rear, front or all-wheel drive. |
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I always use Waze, so i know if a curve is coming up but I see so many people take it at high speed. Not sure if they are very confident or don't know about is.
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