There is a big debate in the owners WhatsApp chat group.

The people defending this practice are saying that:

1. When bought condo they were single, now married and spouse also drives so need a 2nd car
2. When bough condo the children were small, now go to college need a 3rd car

So this gives them the right to park their 2nd/3rd cars outside on the main road, blocking traffic and making it dangerous to take corners.

But this doesn't make sense anyways. Nobody is owed a parking lot. For their own convenience, they inconvenience others? These people got no brains ke - if need more parking, move out je lah. Or make do other ways.

I've complained to DKBL a few times, they have come down to take summons. But the practice is getting worse month by month.

What can be done in this case? Who is right and who is wrong?

These are RM450k to RM700k condos within KL. All owners in my condo had the option to purchase a 2nd parking lot (at a fee). There are leftover parkings that are then rented out on a monthly basis by the Management Office.

they are being cheapskate by not wanting to buy the 2nd parking. also, because of lack of proactive enforcement from dbkl that just come when complained.
if other peoples can save monthly parking by parking at main road, why i need to buy 2nd parking? just follow. this mentality is a cancer.
at first i thought this only happened in b40 area, but since this is attitude issue, it happens everywhere.

This post has been edited by ciwi1166: Jun 15 2025, 11:54 AM

saman all useless...u know ppl all either wont pay or just wait for some stupid 90% discount rubbish...

most effective is clamp or tow...then they need to settle on the spot...
i see mbpj doing that quite often...dbkl probably only will do in city center...

Nothing. Scums gonna be scums if the enforcement remains lax

Even if you live in condos located at Mont Kiara/ Jln Duta/ Sri Hartamas, its all the same.

All the same since developers at most give 2 carpark only. Developers should really give 3 or 4 parking per unit nowadays but won’t since that doesn’t make them money.

1. keluarga jadi besar
2. anak sudah besar

lmao what kind of horseshit reasoning is that?

Kenot berak blame the sky ah? Wtfff

What will you do if you are in their shoes?

Bandar sri permaisuri
Desa petaling
Sg besi
Sri petaling

All same fking pattern

park roadside memang illegal, nothing to debate here

What's there to debate? Park roadside memang illegal.

Ask management to install cones outside condo

Everyday complain to dbkl. Group up, 100-200 ppl complain, dbkl will have to do something. If one month get 15 Saman, they also takut. Wait for discount also need to pay banyak

Just do on our part by reporting the cars parked illegally at the side to relevant parties, e.g. DBKL or local bandaraya

Fines will keep adding up day by day, but if really nuisance to the traffic then certain local bandaraya will tow the car away.

Known issue for DBKL, just want to build build build more condos without thinking the number of parking required, traffic congestion, and life quality of people staying there.

samn has been rendered useless due to discount.
people will just wait for discount period to pay it off if they even want to
if discount period they dont want to pay it off also macam no effect
they cant renew roadtax if they dont pay is it?
then there are people that say if a certain party saman u actually no need pay one, is the dunno what party saman only need to pay so idk man
if they add interest rate to the ticket at something like 10% per week maybe can scare some first timer but the old helang prolly wont care
now if they saman based on your income like 10% of ur income then maybe different story
i only know the good kids are the ones that are paying the saman
those rich kids mommy n daddy run business all dont pay saman one. their expensive car also no road tax one
how u want to fight with these kind of people?
the funny thing is my mega rich friend has 5 cars all bmw but live in low cost flats and taking up 8 parking spots lol
kena niao by the neighbour asking why dont u move out since u seem to be quite well off, he said when he had nothing and poor they stayed at that flat and now rich liao they didnt care about moving out coz that place fengshui prolly made them rich
how u want to argue with that kind of logic?
i just know that at the end of the day, coz of this discount shit, no one is gonna pay even if u saman.
if u cant beat them, join them. that seems to be the general motto in life

Instead of asking the owners to buy 2nd parking lot, why not introduce parking rental instead?

Not many owners can forkout that huge amount of money to purchase 2nd parking lot.

I'm not sure how's the condo management work, but this is what I can see.

road side is not under condo's control, so condo cannot do much either.

many condos already introduced. even if the rent is cheap, why rent when you can park free at the main road?

This post has been edited by ciwi1166: Jun 15 2025, 04:31 PM

More people complain, till DBKL have to tow cars instead of just issuing summons.
Gather whatever negative impact for the complains, make it seems serious

Well said , agreed with you .. enforcement should tow their cars 🥰

TS wait until ur baby grow up and need another parking baru say..

Ur wifey housewife kah? Dont have car?

Same every where.

Tak kira T20 area like BU or T1 area like Tropicana.

Still got residents park their cars on the roadside, somemore until full.

My uncle's house at BU7, sometimes I went at night, circle the whole kawasan lapang & nearby 3-4 blocks also can't find 1 place to park. In the end can only park in front of the gate.

Wrong is wrong
Doesn't matter how much your family grow over the year

I think DPC is the most behaved area. Hardly see roadside parking.

Hired someone thug and to spray all car the block the main. The worse one hire some thug to break the side mirror. Do this bi weekly see anyone there to park or not

If you can afford, do a big ass sticker and paste on their windscreen at driver side. "Illegal Parking" written on it.

It happens everywhere
Unless there is a full enforcement from the condo management to call police to toll the car. They will still do it.

Some area double park. Everyday police come Saman. Still the same. Police get rich easily when they come to that area to Saman.

As long as noncar tow away
No ppl will be scare

no need go debate

just call authority come saman all

every week call once or twice

problem solved ..MO also cant do shit because it's not within condo compound

the only thing they can do is find out who is the reporter (eg: u) and bantai u je ..owai (not serious answer)

i suka park behind alleys. kena saman once a while.
and locked yesterday

malaysia should do like japan. If you can secure a legal parking slot, only then they let you buy a car.

they can actually rent parking space inside but they don't want to

i saw some are RM150-200k car but being parked outside waiting to be stolen

I support towing

Why pay when free?

kena stolen or left with no wheels the next morning, suddenly that parking fee doesn't seem so expensive

i've seen like mazda MX-5, honda civic, honda accord, toyota camry being parked road side just like that

wait... u mean you dont want to park in front of your uncle's gate and park somewhere else? i assume everyone also think the same, dont want to park in front of their own gate?

That's pretty normal for all this apartment and condo. At my side, all are park at the road side.

Stolen or not, you have to gamble for it.

Wonder why TS so butthurt....

typical scene in Malaysia right?
when purchase the condo- already know it is limited parking.

Unit 900 sqft with 2 room - give 2 car park.

Some unit vacant- so 2 car park not used.
some unit got 2 person- so car park utilized
some unit got a couple and another person - short of 1 car park.

but it is not even out as those vacant car park does not allow other to use.
Even if some willing to rent out for a small fees- say Rm 100 per month- but the mindset still the same. Why pay when i can get it for free.

So a development with 500 units... which easily have 100-20 cars outside.
wanna call police, town council to saman? will that be effective? They dont care.
wanna call them to tow the car off? then they will say government cruel. Curse madani and such but they are wrong at the first place.

nothing much u can do except lipot to penbanbaran, trafik polis, JPJ........but kena saman pon they dont care laaa, cos they either ignore dont pay or wait for discount.

you don't even need to rent it from others, the management always will have leftovers parking space for others to rent

just they want to rent or not only
or they wanna park their expensive car outside and gamble and risk the car being beamed by the sun and rain ruining the car's paint

DBKL tamak, keep approving more high rise so can collect berjuta2 cukai pintu from these condos and do shit and useless projeks

BU road originally can park 1 car in between 2 houses without blocking gate, but now many houses go and extend their gate. Cant park in between already.

Is there any condo with 0 leftover parking space? Until need to fight whenever a parking lot becomes available?

whole BU is like that? thought that is prime area
last time people drooling with BU address.

if stay in BU then damn proud

the ones in DP got many with empty lots...
only issue is ppl not willing to pay the monthly rental of rm100-200 a month or maybe too fat lazy walk cos further from block etc...
so just park outside on road or nearest mbpj lots...then leave in morning before saman starts...

pancit 4 tayar, scratch the car or destroy their side mirror discreetly, see if they will still park or not

Move out of condo and stay landed, problem solve

True 😎👍

Legally it's wrong but u know la Malaysia operates on gray area. Usually if no block road or entrance people will just close 1 eye. But from time to time sure got some retard cincai park block people's car or entrance...then that time people will complain and come saman etc. But saman etc is still cheaper than buying or renting a new car park slot...

see also which & where you stay landed house

got some landed house because some stay 1 family, each person 1 car, then they go park the cars nearby or at the side of your/neighbor house

take PJS 2 for example, if got trash lorry wanna go in and out also susah because even corner also wanna park car

if stay at landed house e.g. Rimbayu area that got wide space then can accommodate 2-3 cars in their driveway

Same goes with my sister house, some neighbours owned more then 2 cars, tend to park at other's available space infront of the house which clearly not for them 😔

Yes, this route is very tempting and definitely exhilarating.

But the proper way to screw with these degenerates are to spam complaints and o the local town council and get those cars removed.

if i am not wrong, parking along the road ie on solid yellow/white lines is an traffic offence with saman to be issued by polis. local council ada give a fk?

go hardware store
ask for paint remover

Helped a friend restore damaged paint on his car, the prev owner parked road side outside.

=)

This post has been edited by Chrix: Jun 17 2025, 08:23 AM

If you rajin report, request for towing. That will move the needle.

There's actually an easy solution. Make it legal for any Malaysian to damage or destroy any car parked illegally.

I know this one fella complaint the same thing like u

thing is, he complaint about lack of ample parking for Transit Oriented Developments (TODs) condo - lrt is basically a 5-10 minutes away from the place.

some rich fella at USJ 5 staying in bungalows also still doing that, parking outside instead of inside the huge compound

just typical malaysian attitude I guess

Then the law should force developers to set aside more land for carpark instead of max 2.

This post has been edited by imbibug: Jun 17 2025, 02:50 PM

mostly B40 punya condo

but jokes aside, its caused by not enough parking inside the condo itself
some buildings management dont even allow to rent out additional parking

This post has been edited by bigmac999: Jun 17 2025, 03:58 PM

But thats not the point right? Dont buy or rent, or buy an additional vehicle if there is not enough parking lots. How is this not basic common sense?

no problem to buy an additional vehicles, just make sure don't park the car illegally, instead look for parking where there is parking

its more of a mentality and enforcement issue
one retard will purchase an additional car and park on the roadside illegally, then there is no enforcements and the other residents will do the same as the first retard

if the illegally parked car is towed away everyday, nobody will park at that area anymore

City Council should invest in more tow trucks ... confirm after one year can cover cost back and then after that is pure revenue

Bungalow will have more space outside to park, is theirs to park kan?

at bukit jalil infront of the park is worse . Ppl working at pavillion parking illegally causing traffic .

Deswai, my opinion is always that when people purchase cars, they must prove they have the capacity to park it, when people renew roadtax, should make sure their car got allocated parking space, condo should prove they have paid parking space and is easier to prove, for landed max 2 cars allocated per lot unless they can prove their lawn space can actually park more. So many fucking sohais don't even have the capacity to park their shitty vehicles yet have the audacity to buy so fucking many cars jamming the road and blocking places with their entitled behaviour, fuck these losers.

Maybe when people buy cars, should charge an additional rm5k as gomen deposit, the collections from there can invest into infra for towing and storing all these sampah vehicles, if they don't collect and pay fine within stipulated amount of time just scrap metal that garbage and the deposit also forfeited. The "deposit" can be collected back once they actually prove they have properly disposed of their vehicle when it's no longer useable. Takes care of future abandoned vehicle bullshit also.

Sometimes when you deal with fucking pariahs macam need to be like a fucking dictator only they behave, really sampah masyarakat. Hope they start towing all the fuckers illegal double parkers. Do properly and see how quickly the shitheads fall into line.

rempit, bicycle lanjak, drug addicted drivers and speeding maniacs haven't been solved yet.. parking would be the least of the problem

outside of your house , consider already Majlis punya jurisdiction. they can tow your car if they want too

here, you cant even simply simply plant your own trees outside your house, if neighbor complaint/majlis know they will come and cut it

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jun 18 2025, 08:59 AM

..... but have seen any car been towed outside bungalow? ... Majlis will tow only if you obstruct other people house entrance.
So be realistic la bro......... and most bungalows are in G&G ...

You are quite extreme in your living thoughts .. no offense ya....

This post has been edited by etan26: Jun 18 2025, 09:19 AM

is theirs to park kan?

like I said, it is not theirs

in this context, why can't you park your own cars inside your huge compound?

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jun 18 2025, 09:21 AM

in some state, bangalow might not in GnG...

in my area, Bangalow are just inside a housing garden and dont hv main road...

usually small small road..

Even my house i hv 7 cars and i only can park 3 inside due to the big pillar to support balcony.

mostly park are road side.. which is small small road within housing area, not the main road...

in KL, those condo are build next to main road.. i think issue is parking at main road...

I never see any obstruction in parking outside my house, no white line no yellow line ... so what offence boss?
No law said I must park inside my compound, can you show me pls?

This post has been edited by etan26: Jun 18 2025, 09:29 AM

Correct, park at road side obstructing traffic is an offence but not because of not parking inside my compound.

Whataboutism datang lagi, idc, they can implement more enforcement for each of these issues, but doesn't stop fucking double parkers from being a fucking pain in the ass. They malas wanna send enforcers come also no prob, update jpj app and let us do the reporting (last I check no category for retard double parkers), they just saman/block renewal of roadtax until they pay then either they make money off these asshats or they will fucking finally stop being pests. Or create new law, damage to illegally parked cars will not be investigated, let vigilantes damage these sampah see if these retards still wanna be inconsiderate fuckwads.

This post has been edited by potatoespotate: Jun 18 2025, 10:03 AM

some mf plant a huge tree in between his house side park so he park at others house in between and no one can park at his house in between. mf person

there isn't a problem when the residents is bifoti staying in PPR, where only motobodo parked even at the main road walkway... cukur