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post Jun 14 2025, 03:37 PM, updated 7 months ago

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Chinese AI companies are reportedly smuggling hard drives to Malaysia in order to train their AI models without technically breaking the export controls that the U.S. has placed on advanced Nvidia chips heading into China. According to the Wall Street Journal, four Chinese tech workers flew in from Beijing to Kuala Lumpur, each one carrying 15 hard drives with 80 TBs worth of data each for training an AI model. This amounts to about 4.8 PB of information, which is enough for several large-scale LLMs.

This was a meticulously planned operation and took several months of preparation. Sources say that the engineers chose to fly in the data on hard drives, because it would take a lot of time to transfer the data online without attracting attention. They then divvied up the hard drives between four passengers to avoid raising alarm bells with Malaysian customs and immigration officers. The Chinese personnel then proceeded to a Malaysian data center, where their company rented 300 Nvidia AI servers to process the data and build the AI model.

The involved companies also made some legal moves to muddy the waters. The Chinese AI company had previously used the same process to train its model using the Malaysian data center, with its Singapore-registered subsidiary signing the rent agreement. But with Singapore clamping down on AI tech exports, the Malaysian company asked its Chinese client to register locally and avoid scrutiny.


Despite Nvidia claims, Chinese smugglers have used live lobsters and fake baby bumps to traffic electronics
Setting up a local operation and manually bringing in the data on hard drives makes training more complicated than doing it in China. However, the U.S.’s bans are making it harder for companies to import the advanced hardware they require for AI training. Despite Nvidia’s claims that “there is no evidence of chip diversion”, there is a healthy black market in China for smuggled Nvidia chips, and they’re able to get them through subsidiaries and other companies based in nearby countries.

Still, doing this requires a lot of money, especially as the increased risk means suppliers likely put a premium on the servers they sell. It has also reportedly become more difficult recently because of the pressure that the White House has been putting on these countries. So, instead of importing the hardware, the next best option for some of these Chinese companies is to export the data instead.

Moves like this show how difficult it is for the U.S. to enforce the export bans that it has put on these powerful chips. More than that, the U.S. Senate has found out that the Commerce Department is woefully underfunded and has been ineffective at enforcing these controls. Although it seems that Washington’s sanctions are slowly starting to take effect with increased enforcement, the fact that Chinese companies take these steps to circumvent AI chip bans shows that the White House has got its work cut out for itself.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/china-ai-chip-curb...tcases-7c47dab1


https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/...-rented-servers

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post Jun 14 2025, 03:45 PM

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Weird. They cannot buy hard drive in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Jun 14 2025, 03:45 PM)
Weird. They cannot buy hard drive in Malaysia?
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The data is in China, the need to use the data centre hardware to process it
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to train their AI models without technically breaking the export controls that the U.S.

so another loophole to close?

Jensen already giving up on China market.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Jun 14 2025, 03:45 PM)
Weird. They cannot buy hard drive in Malaysia?
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Brought in hdd with data. Bring here to use MY based AI servers to process.

Why cant use cloud storage based in China?

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Jun 14 2025, 03:45 PM)
Weird. They cannot buy hard drive in Malaysia?
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They cannot buy the advanced AI chips in China, so they bring their AI model here to train it using data centers in Malaysia.
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what's the problem...?
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wats the evidence? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 14 2025, 03:53 PM)
what's the problem...?
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 14 2025, 03:50 PM)
Brought in hdd with data. Bring here to use MY based AI servers to process.

Why cant use cloud storage based in China?
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I would say
1. They would not trust cloud provider that can link to outside of china firewall with their data either thinking that the information was important or either full of copyright infringement that can be used against them
2. Those cloud provider may need to abide to both China and US regulation, can u trust one that play both side.

Anyway Malaysia boleh, for s hort sweet can act interstation. How long time can our MITI minster buy us before getting sanctioned of the sweet spot.
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Why need to bring in manually, can always import in the hdd as brand new empty hdd.
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If chinese do it, it's "smuggle". If angmoh do it, say it's bukak data centre. Ok
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sooner or later msia sure kena from US
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 14 2025, 03:50 PM)
Brought in hdd with data. Bring here to use MY based AI servers to process.

Why cant use cloud storage based in China?
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Avoid kena trace. Don’t leave evidence.

But their HDD so small? 15 HDD = 80tb.



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Probably doing it in their walled city in malaysia
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 14 2025, 04:13 PM)
If chinese do it, it's "smuggle". If angmoh do it, say it's bukak data centre. Ok
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I thought they already have what LJ chips already?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 14 2025, 04:27 PM)
Avoid kena trace.  Don’t leave evidence.

But their HDD so small? 15 HDD = 80tb.
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80 TBs worth of data each

EACH
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 14 2025, 04:29 PM)
I thought they already have what LJ chips already?
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Just started production only. Not enough to fulfill demand yet.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:33 PM)
80 TBs worth of data each

EACH
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There is no 80TB HDD in the market.

Max is 36TB HDD.

It’s quite dangerous to smuggle over here. HDD is fragile.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 14 2025, 04:37 PM)
There is no 80TB HDD in the market.

Max is 36TB HDD.

It’s quite dangerous to smuggle over here. HDD is fragile.
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https://www.lazada.sg/products/orico-5-bay-...2017675878.html

maybe like this? hmm.gif

GOOGLE said got wor.................

not i said hor

An 80TB SSD refers to a solid-state drive with a storage capacity of 80 terabytes. While not a common consumer-level product, 80TB SSDs exist as enterprise-grade solutions, often found in professional workflows like video production or large-scale data storage.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 14 2025, 04:37 PM)
There is no 80TB HDD in the market.

Max is 36TB HDD.

It’s quite dangerous to smuggle over here. HDD is fragile.
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There are 100TB SSD (100TB version (EDDCT100/EDDCS100) retailing for $40,000)
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Diu, Malusial never says that cannot bring hard drive with data into Malusial for AI training.

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jun 14 2025, 04:45 PM)
Diu, Malusial never says that cannot bring hard drive with data into Malusial for AI training.
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amdk said smuggled in wo
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:42 PM)
https://www.lazada.sg/products/orico-5-bay-...2017675878.html

maybe like this? hmm.gif

GOOGLE said got wor.................

not i said hor

An 80TB SSD refers to a solid-state drive with a storage capacity of 80 terabytes. While not a common consumer-level product, 80TB SSDs exist as enterprise-grade solutions, often found in professional workflows like video production or large-scale data storage.
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That’s NAS la.

My NAS 5 HDD already 73TB.
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They then divvied up the hard drives between four passengers to avoid raising alarm bells with Malaysian customs and immigration officers. The Chinese personnel then proceeded to a Malaysian data center, where their company rented 300 Nvidia AI servers to process the data and build the AI model.
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Sounded nonsense.
It is DATA not some PORN film.
Even if they found out the DATA is to be used to train AI, what can Malaysian customs and immigration officers do?

IMMI/Custom: HDD ni ada apa & untuk apa?
CCP: Data utk latih AI di Datacenter milik Sunway & ECOWorld.
IMMI/Custom: Tabulih nanti Uncle Sam marah, dorang guna cip NVIDIA bukanya Huawei!! OR Dibawah undang XXX, bawah Akta YYY, adalah menjadi kesalahan.......bla2.. (Got such law meh?)

LOL

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Claim first: China's super AI are trained in Malaysia by Malaysian...
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 14 2025, 04:09 PM)
Why need to bring in manually, can always import in the hdd as brand new empty hdd.
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Dey, read properly la. New HDD got data ke?
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Phul suppork to white man land! Close this loophole fast.
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I don’t see anything wrong about that, only sohai AMDK and arrogant Muricans think they have the right to stop other countries from progressing using bully bans.
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lets travel there and offer as agent to bring them back.

i would expect at least usd 1k allowance per trip.
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QUOTE(saiga @ Jun 14 2025, 05:36 PM)
Dey, read properly la. New HDD got data ke?
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I think what he's trying to say is the HDD with AI data, label it as brand new HDD in the shipping waybill and just ship it over like any aliexpress parcel to avoid suspicion.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 14 2025, 04:09 PM)
Why need to bring in manually, can always import in the hdd as brand new empty hdd.
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Deyyy article already answered your question.
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Sources say that the engineers chose to fly in the data on hard drives, because it would take a lot of time to transfer the data online without attracting attention.

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 05:38 PM)
I don’t see anything wrong about that, only sohai AMDK and arrogant Muricans think they have the right to stop other countries from progressing using bully bans.
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Google and other Western tech companies banned in China how many decades liao?
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 14 2025, 03:50 PM)
Brought in hdd with data. Bring here to use MY based AI servers to process.

Why cant use cloud storage based in China?
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It's written in the article

Sources say that the engineers chose to fly in the data on hard drives, because it would take a lot of time to transfer the data online without attracting attention. They then divvied up the hard drives between four passengers to avoid raising alarm bells with Malaysian customs and immigration officers. The Chinese personnel then proceeded to a Malaysian data center, where their company rented 300 Nvidia AI servers to process the data and build the AI model.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 14 2025, 05:47 PM)
Google and other Western tech companies banned in China how many decades liao?
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Cannnooot

Cannot say like that. Later wumao cry how???

Only they can ban people, other people cannot ban them wan you dunno meh????
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 14 2025, 05:47 PM)
Google and other Western tech companies banned in China how many decades liao?
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Ban from operating within a country is the power any govt possess. But banning another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world is only reserved for global super bully.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 14 2025, 05:54 PM)
Cannnooot

Cannot say like that. Later wumao cry how???

Only they can ban people, other people cannot ban them wan you dunno meh????
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Learn to reason with logic instead of tokok like little kid.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 05:55 PM)
Ban from operating within a country is the power any govt possess. But banning another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world is only reserved for global super bully.
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Bro, dun be sked lah.

Most countries in the world suppork China. They dun suppork USA. AMDKs are in the minority.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 14 2025, 05:47 PM)
Google and other Western tech companies banned in China how many decades liao?
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Google didn’t set up a WFOE or cloud/data presence in China primarily because:
1) It refused to host user data locally,
2) Would not censor search results or user content,
3) And didn’t agree to operate under the control required by Chinese internet law.
Meanwhile, companies that accept these restrictions (like Microsoft, Apple, Amazon via partnerships) are able to operate, though often under tight limitations.


simply banned and refused to comply is 2 different thing
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 05:56 PM)
Learn to reason with logic instead of tokok like little kid.
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Why? Terperasan ke?

Arguments with people like you don't warrant me using any of my mental faculties, because people like you don't debate based on the rule of law and modern civilization.

They invented the tech, they own the tech. They can let whoever they want to use it or ban anyone from using it. The same with Huawei ban. China can ban YouTube but US can't ban Huawei? Rules for thee but not for me.

Pathetic.
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jun 14 2025, 06:03 PM)
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Google didn’t set up a WFOE or cloud/data presence in China primarily because:
1) It refused to host user data locally,
2) Would not censor search results or user content,
3) And didn’t agree to operate under the control required by Chinese internet law.
Meanwhile, companies that accept these restrictions (like Microsoft, Apple, Amazon via partnerships) are able to operate, though often under tight limitations.
simply banned and refused to comply is 2 different thing
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Kudos to Google for not compromising on 2)

So now you can see who is more "trustworthy" and who isn't.

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 14 2025, 06:07 PM)
Kudos to Google for not compromising on 2)

So now you can see who is more "trustworthy" and who isn't.

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CCP and censorship is no surprise
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 14 2025, 06:04 PM)
Why? Terperasan ke?

Arguments with people like you don't warrant me using any of my mental faculties, because people like you don't debate based on the rule of law and modern civilization.

They invented the tech, they own the tech. They can let whoever they want to use it or ban anyone from using it. The same with Huawei ban. China can ban YouTube but US can't ban Huawei? Rules for thee but not for me.

Pathetic.
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Sure, just like Murica can ban PRC buy chips but upset when PRC ban Murica from buying their rare earth.

How many countries in the world ban another country from using their “invention” except for weapons? The world progress by combining technology invented by different countries. Can China ban others from using paper and gunpowder?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 06:13 PM)
Sure, just like Murica can ban PRC buy chips but upset when PRC ban Murica from buying their rare earth.

How many countries in the world ban another country from using their “invention” except for weapons? The world progress by combining technology invented by different countries. Can China ban others from using paper and gunpowder?
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The guy that invented 1 + 1 should patent math so that everyone cannot use math unless they pay license fee to their heirs. That's amdk logic

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 14 2025, 04:27 PM)
Avoid kena trace.  Don’t leave evidence.

But their HDD so small? 15 HDD = 80tb.
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4 person. Each carries 3 - 4 HDD only.
Avoid suspicion?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:22 PM)
sooner or later msia sure kena from US
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Good we self sanction for 100 years. Who know we can be kuasa besar like China.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 05:55 PM)
Ban from operating within a country is the power any govt possess. But banning another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world is only reserved for global super bully.
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There, you said it yourself. US restrict export of advanced chips, China restrict export of rare earth.

It is what it is.

QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 06:13 PM)
Sure, just like Murica can ban PRC buy chips but upset when PRC ban Murica from buying their rare earth.

How many countries in the world ban another country from using their “invention” except for weapons? The world progress by combining technology invented by different countries. Can China ban others from using paper and gunpowder?
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 14 2025, 06:24 PM)
There, you said it yourself. US restrict export of advanced chips, China restrict export of rare earth.

It is what it is.
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U have very bad reasoning capabilities. PRC restrict rare earth export after Murica’a non stop hostile measures against PRC. PRC was selling rare earth to everyone under free trade previously championed by prior US POTUS.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 06:29 PM)
U have very bad reasoning capabilities. PRC restrict rare earth export after Murica’a non stop hostile measures against PRC. PRC was selling rare earth to everyone under free trade previously championed by prior US POTUS.
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If a Chinese citizen helps the US circumvent the rare earth export restriction, the Chinese government should take action against that person.

Agree or disagree?
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Mana sos. Then we judge.
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jun 14 2025, 06:41 PM)
Mana sos. Then we judge.
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https://www.wsj.com/tech/china-ai-chip-curb...tcases-7c47dab1

original sos but got paywall
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QUOTE(premier239 @ Jun 14 2025, 06:48 PM)
Thanks. But WSJ normally plotek geng sendiri. Not that trusting. Now always use Malaysia as kambing hitam. Lel
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Jun 14 2025, 04:13 PM)
If chinese do it, it's "smuggle". If angmoh do it, say it's bukak data centre. Ok
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But why use nvidia to train when can use own chinese tech from huawei ?

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jun 14 2025, 07:12 PM)
Is it illegal to carry hard drives in your bag?
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QUOTE(saiga @ Jun 14 2025, 05:36 PM)
Dey, read properly la. New HDD got data ke?
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jun 14 2025, 05:43 PM)
I think what he's trying to say is the HDD with AI data, label it as brand new HDD in the shipping waybill and just ship it over like any aliexpress parcel to avoid suspicion.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 14 2025, 05:46 PM)
Deyyy article already answered your question.
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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Jun 14 2025, 05:52 PM)
It's written in the article

Sources say that the engineers chose to fly in the data on hard drives, because it would take a lot of time to transfer the data online without attracting attention. They then divvied up the hard drives between four passengers to avoid raising alarm bells with Malaysian customs and immigration officers. The Chinese personnel then proceeded to a Malaysian data center, where their company rented 300 Nvidia AI servers to process the data and build the AI model.
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Rusty Nail nailed it. TQVM. notworthy.gif

I think what he's trying to say is the HDD with AI data, label it as brand new HDD in the shipping waybill and just ship it over like any aliexpress parcel to avoid suspicion

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There is a rumour, some DC is built to buy sanctioned chips.

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at the end STILL USE MURCA SHIT ... WHY NOT USE UR OWN CHINA ...

THEY BLOW THAT THEY ARE NAMBA 1 AND BETTER THAN USA

WHY STIL;L USE MURICA TECH
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 14 2025, 07:40 PM)
Rusty Nail nailed it. TQVM. notworthy.gif

I think what he's trying to say is the HDD with AI data, label it as brand new HDD in the shipping waybill and just ship it over like any aliexpress parcel to avoid suspicion
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Would you mail super sensitive data? Seems risky.
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this kind of news usually play by your neighbour country either Thailand or Indonesia. They want datacenter hub in their country
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four Chinese tech workers flew in from Beijing to Kuala Lumpur, each one carrying 15 hard drives with 80 TBs worth of data each for training an AI model. This amounts to about 4.8 PB of information, which is enough for several large-scale LLMs.

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should have bought Seagate Nimbus ExaDrive DC 100TB



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There is a rumour, some DC is built to buy sanctioned chips.
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mampuih lah cyberjaya kana blacklisted by US Government after this

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 14 2025, 05:47 PM)
Google and other Western tech companies banned in China how many decades liao?
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jun 14 2025, 06:03 PM)
ChatGPT
Google didn’t set up a WFOE or cloud/data presence in China primarily because:
1) It refused to host user data locally,
2) Would not censor search results or user content,
3) And didn’t agree to operate under the control required by Chinese internet law.
Meanwhile, companies that accept these restrictions (like Microsoft, Apple, Amazon via partnerships) are able to operate, though often under tight limitations.
simply banned and refused to comply is 2 different thing
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Gemini AI Overview:

Several prominent tech companies and websites are blocked or banned in China. This includes major US tech companies like Google (including YouTube, Gmail, Google Play, etc.), Facebook (and its associated platforms like Instagram and WhatsApp), and Twitter. Additionally, many other international websites and services are blocked, such as Reddit, Wikipedia, and various news sources like BBC and The New York Times.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
- US Tech Companies:
Google: Blocked since around 2010, including its search engine, YouTube, Gmail, Google Play, Google Maps, Google Drive, and more.
Facebook: Blocked since 2009, along with its messaging apps WhatsApp and Instagram.
Twitter: Blocked since 2009.
- Other Websites and Services:
YouTube: Blocked since 2009.
Reddit: Blocked between 2018 and 2019.
Wikipedia: Blocked between 2018 and 2019.
Various International News Sources: Including BBC and The New York Times.
- Other platforms and services: Many other websites and services are blocked as part of China's broader internet censorship efforts, known as the "GREAT FIREWALL".

Why are they blocked?
China's internet censorship aims to control information flow, promote domestic alternatives, and safeguard its currency. The government regulates and restricts access to content it deems detrimental to national interests and overall well-being. Additionally, China's regulations aim to foster the growth of its own digital ecosystem and local tech companies.

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 14 2025, 03:50 PM)
Brought in hdd with data. Bring here to use MY based AI servers to process.

Why cant use cloud storage based in China?
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QUOTE(akhito @ Jun 14 2025, 04:00 PM)
I would say
1. They would not trust cloud provider that can link to outside of china firewall with their data either thinking that the information was important or either full of copyright infringement that can be used against them
2. Those cloud provider may need to abide to both China and US regulation, can u trust one that play both side.

Anyway Malaysia boleh, for s hort sweet can act interstation. How long time can our MITI minster buy us before getting sanctioned of the sweet spot.
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You never heard of Room 641A AT&T case kah?

TIL of room 641A- a secret room in an AT&T building that held secret equipment used to spy on citizens

Room 641A was the first co-opted T1 fiber line to be confirmed to have a physical “tap” by US Intelligence agencies.

Prior to this the theory of physically splicing the light from a fiber optic cable to do deep packet inspection was only theory. The largest commercial switches at the time (i.e the infrastructure ATT was using) were thought to be hackable but not completely co-opted by a physical device. Palantir was the company that privately developed this technology and was subsequently awarded with hundred of millions of dollars in government contracts. Now the US uses their software/hardware technology stacks inside nuclear submarines, I’ll let you reader deduce their own logical conclusions.

And the only reason anyone in this thread even knows about it is because of Mark Klein, a ATT technician, who had worked at the company (and physical building in SF where 641A is actually located) for twenty years prior noticed a new storage closet in the building but not listed on the blueprints.

This technology and following societal changes can all be traced back to the Patriot Act following 9/11.

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comm...n_att_building/


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Internet large file transfer la, apa susah2 aiya
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 14 2025, 06:23 PM)
4 person. Each carries 3 - 4 HDD only.
Avoid suspicion?
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They can couriers over. That is much more safer than hand carry.

Pc stuff. Custom close 1 eye wan.
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QUOTE(vexus @ Jun 14 2025, 07:43 PM)
this kind of news usually play by your neighbour country either Thailand or Indonesia. They want datacenter hub in their country
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They cannot offer lower energy price la.
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this sounds like some stupid news story a tech illiterate will come up with just to drum up clicks
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Haha. Others can come to Malaysia to train and develop their technology, but sadly people here who have access to same facilities seem more interested in R&R issues.
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Haha. Others can come to Malaysia to train and develop their technology, but sadly people here who have access to same facilities seem more interested in R&R issues.
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QUOTE(Stirmling @ Jun 14 2025, 08:22 PM)
this sounds like some stupid news story a tech illiterate will come up with just to drum up clicks
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Raffaele Huang is a reporter for The Wall Street Journal in Singapore, covering Asia’s technology companies. Previously, he mainly focused on corporate news in the automotive and technology sector in Beijing.
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Despite Nvidia claims, Chinese smugglers have used live lobsters and fake baby bumps to traffic electronics


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Who offer to help this CCP to train their AI?

All the DC here is under the US company. They are strict who can use.
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Earlier this year, a Beijing-based tech firm took over a lease for 200 AI servers that a data center in Malaysia had originally earmarked for an American cloud-computing company, according to people familiar with the arrangement.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/china-ai-chip-curb...=tech_lead_pos5

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pretty smart for PRC companies..

but Malaysia better not FAFO

this must stop immediately.. there is little benefit for us beyond some property developers making money..
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 14 2025, 08:07 PM)
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Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview:

Several prominent tech companies and websites are blocked or banned in China. This includes major US tech companies like Google (including YouTube, Gmail, Google Play, etc.), Facebook (and its associated platforms like Instagram and WhatsApp), and Twitter. Additionally, many other international websites and services are blocked, such as Reddit, Wikipedia, and various news sources like BBC and The New York Times.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
- US Tech Companies:
Google: Blocked since around 2010, including its search engine, YouTube, Gmail, Google Play, Google Maps, Google Drive, and more.
Facebook: Blocked since 2009, along with its messaging apps WhatsApp and Instagram.
Twitter: Blocked since 2009.
- Other Websites and Services:
YouTube: Blocked since 2009.
Reddit: Blocked between 2018 and 2019.
Wikipedia: Blocked between 2018 and 2019.
Various International News Sources: Including BBC and The New York Times.
- Other platforms and services: Many other websites and services are blocked as part of China's broader internet censorship efforts, known as the "GREAT FIREWALL".

Why are they blocked?
China's internet censorship aims to control information flow, promote domestic alternatives, and safeguard its currency. The government regulates and restricts access to content it deems detrimental to national interests and overall well-being. Additionally, China's regulations aim to foster the growth of its own digital ecosystem and local tech companies. 

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 05:55 PM)
Ban from operating within a country is the power any govt possess. But banning another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world is only reserved for global super bully.
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Seems, CCP China is the global super bully first.

Btw, has USA banned another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world.?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 14 2025, 10:41 PM)
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Seems, CCP China is the global super bully first.

Btw, has USA banned  another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world.?
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U quoted so much but do u even understand what ppl commented?

PRC ban or limit foreign tech companies operating in China mainly due to PRC strict information control which foreign operators would not abide by. Murica recently wants to ban any country from buying Huawei chips, previously forbid other countries from using PRC 5G tech. U can’t even see the diff? One is ban within own which is their jurisdiction, the other is banning other countries in even dealing with PRC, that’s f@rking beyond their jurisdiction and borders, hence is international bully.
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fuxk the US law. China will use samarium (Sm) to force the US bow to its knees for at least 10 years. the US defence industry will go to a halt.

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Not say Chyna hardware no 1? Why need nvidia?
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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Jun 14 2025, 08:24 PM)
Haha. Others can come to Malaysia to train and develop their technology, but sadly people here who have access to same facilities seem more interested in R&R issues.
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That’s why Murica target PRC, they are super determined to progress and succeed, and now threaten Murica position as the world’s global leader in almost every aspect.

Conversely, Murica didn’t ban small fries like Msia because this country and its syok sendiri ppl post zero threat to Uncle Sam. Yet syok sendiri Msian still got the audacity to belittle PRC which is right now far ahead of us doh.gif
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QUOTE((iGamer @ Jun 14 2025 @ 05:55 PM)
Ban from operating within a country is the power any govt possess. But banning another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world is only reserved for global super bully.
QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 10:53 PM)
U quoted so much but do u even understand what ppl commented?

PRC ban or limit foreign tech companies operating in China mainly due to PRC strict information control which foreign operators would not abide by. Murica recently wants to ban any country from buying Huawei chips, previously forbid other countries from using PRC 5G tech. U can’t even see the diff? One is ban within own which is their jurisdiction, the other is banning other countries in even dealing with PRC, that’s f@rking beyond their jurisdiction and borders, hence is international bully.
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Your news source please for your above highlighted statement.
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Your news source please for your above highlighted statement.
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US declares global use of Huawei AI chips a violation of its export laws

https://www.business-standard.com/companies...51401298_1.html


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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 14 2025, 05:55 PM)
Ban from operating within a country is the power any govt possess. But banning another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world is only reserved for global super bully.
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jun 14 2025, 11:00 PM)
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Your news source please for your above highlighted statement.
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Jun 14 2025, 11:03 PM)
US declares global use of Huawei AI chips a violation of its export laws

https://www.business-standard.com/companies...51401298_1.html
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Is that USA banning another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world.? Is Huawei a country.?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 14 2025, 04:22 PM)
sooner or later msia sure kena from US
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huehuehue

40% at least kena
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Despite Nvidia’s claims that “there is no evidence of chip diversion”


One side is WSJ claim without evidence, another side is Nvidia claim without evidence

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QUOTE(Freshmeat21 @ Jun 15 2025, 12:11 AM)
One side is WSJ claim without evidence, another side is Nvidia claim without evidence

done claim  whistling.gif
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the more relevent question is who provided the info the WSJ ? why did WSJ seem it was the only one who got the info ?





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QUOTE(Freshmeat21 @ Jun 15 2025, 12:11 AM)
One side is WSJ claim without evidence, another side is Nvidia claim without evidence

done claim  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Jun 15 2025, 12:35 AM)
the more relevent question is who provided the info the WSJ ? why did WSJ seem it was the only one who got the info ?
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US department of commerce and customs have personnel in kl. WSJ report is a short across the bow. Action will follow if BMX gomen don't take any action.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 15 2025, 01:14 AM)
US department of commerce and customs have personnel in kl. WSJ report is a short across the bow. Action will follow if BMX gomen don't take any action.
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article got says source from US gomen?
or you also claim je?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 14 2025, 11:24 PM)
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Is that USA banning another country from operating or trading with all other countries in the world.? Is Huawei a country.?
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You cant have your cake and eat it la daisho rainman

You cant paint Huawei as the tech arm of a sovereign state representing its interests in one thread

And in another thread treat it as a private sector and action against it purely without malice to said country

Also you should appreciate the irony the one who shares without context or understanding what he shares actually got caught when he asks for context kek

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 14 2025, 09:51 PM)
Who offer to help this CCP to train their AI?

All the DC here is under the US company. They are strict who can use.
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Are they.?
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Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview:

In Malaysia, you can rent data server space (colocation) or lease dedicated servers, with options ranging from 1U to full racks. Various providers offer these services, including Exabytes, AIMS, iCore Technology, and Shinjiru.COM.MY. Pricing depends on the chosen configuration, including rack space, bandwidth, power, and security features.

- Colocation (Renting Space in a Data Center):
Providers:
Exabytes, AIMS Data Center, iCore Technology, GB Network Solutions, and IP ServerOne offer colocation services. ...

- Dedicated Servers:
Providers:
Shinjiru, VPS Malaysia, and OVHcloud offer dedicated server rentals. ....

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