This news just came up this morning. Apparently several students revealed the driver was shouting angrily and was speeding before the bus crashed.

Investigations can be made and speculations by anyone can be made. However, after this piece of news came up, I'm rather certain now that the accident is caused by the driver and not any other external factors.

I don't know, but to me an accident is MOSTLY caused by the driver(s) involved in the accident, I would say 90%. Other factors would be vehicle fault such as brake failure, steering failure etc. perhaps (8%) or other factors such as oil on the road, tyre burst or a cow suddenly came up from nowhere and you can't brake in time (2%).

What do you think? The article published on The Star is as below.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...y-says-survivor

Gerik bus crash: Driver sounded angry, says survivor



GERIK: "I woke up when I heard the driver shouting angrily. I don't know what he was angry at but the bus started swaying from side to side and then overturned."

This is what Farhana Ab Aziz remembered after she survived the horrific accident where 15 Universiti Pendidikan Sultan Idris (UPSI) students were killed at KM53 of the East-West Highway here on Monday (June 9). Farhana, 23, said she heard noises from the driver's seat and saw he appeared to be angry before the bus sped up and became unstable. "When the bus departed from Jertih, I fell asleep. But around 12.45am, I woke up because I heard the driver mumbling angrily. "It wasn't clear why he was angry – whether it was the bus' condition or at a car in front – I'm not sure," she said when met by reporters at Gerik Hospital, reported Sinar Harian. Farhana said some other students who were awake also tried to see what was going on. Shortly after, she said, the bus started to sway and then overturned. "Many were unconscious. My friends and I who were awake quickly looked for an exit. "I was afraid of stepping on others," she said.

Another student, Rohadatul Aisy Mohd Zaki, 20, said she realised the bus was speeding after she was awaked by her friend seconds before the crash. "I was thrown into the aisle. It was cramped and a friend tried to help me but I couldn't get up. "After a few minutes, I managed to gather enough strength to get out of the bus," she said.

In the incident around 1am on Monday, 15 students died while 27 others were injured. The 40-year-old bus driver and his 54-year-old assistant were also injured. The accident is believed to have occurred when the bus collided with the rear of a multi-purpose vehicle before going out of control before overturning and crashing into the guardrail on the left of the road. A family of four in the MPV survived with injuries and were treated at Baling Hospital in Kedah.

Earlier report said driver was driving "berhemah"

dah panic letew

Grim reaper has been let loose. Everyone be aware.

only death sentence can deter these grim reaper drivers

With the dashcam footage revealed, definitely the driver's fault.

Is the bus roof made from wood?
Why i see wood?

If the dashcam video is real and the bus no have brake issues, confirm salah driver bas.

Come one lah... let the authority do their things. Some more create tered in serious kopitiam to guess what's the cause.

I think people should be 'sensitive' a bit lah when have major accident like this. Dont add fuel to fire.

Driver looks to be the culprit from the video footage. One shouldnt speed like that, regardless of circumstances.

But then he may probably just get a fine and reprimand and life goes on.

Well I once drove an old van down a hill when the brake suddenly fail on me, despite alone, I was shouting "fuck!fuck!fuck!"

Luckily I managed to control it.

So yeah, the driver could be shouting angrily when the brake suddenly fail.

Sometimes roof lining , or could be the luggage compartment.

tell me which one of you never encountered a speeding bas/lori/treler before?

Why is this on serious /k?

In any case, whether there is element of brake failure or not; driver is still at fault for speeding in the first place. Holding nearly 40 passengers is like you are holding 40 eggs in a basket without any egg holder, and running back to home, hoping that when you reach home all the 40 eggs are still in place.

This wouldn't have happened if the driver is not speeding and just casually crusing at normal speed. The fastest you can cut is just between 3~10mins, it's just not worth it to compensate with everyone's safety.

Why is this speculative thread in serious k?

The responsibilities, risks, and rewards you mentioned reflect a logical truth about priorities.

Choosing to save 3–10 minutes at the cost of potential damage and casualties is an unwise trade-off. Yet, it was too late. Lives were lost, survivors were traumatized, and families were left mourning.

Moving forward, public vehicle drivers need regular awareness workshops. Their attitude and decisions behind the wheel directly determine the fate of the passengers they transport.

Had the driver possessed a greater sense of responsibility, the decision to speed would not have arisen. A responsible person would recognize that the risks far outweigh any potential gain—sane individuals do not gamble with lives or betray the trust placed in them.

To all drivers: if you see a bus or public vehicle behind you attempting to overtake, gently move slightly to the left and allow them to pass safely. A small act of consideration can help prevent reckless overtaking or speeding.

If you realize the vehicle behind may lack comprehension or patience, why insist on being “right”?

Being right in a situation that ends in casualties is no victory.

Being wronged but able to prevent an accident—that’s a true win for society.

In the end, it’s not about ego. It’s about lives.

Buses all made from wood and aluminum. Wood mostly for the interiors. Aluminum for the structure. Steel for the chassis.

why at the first place this is located in serious K


The speed from cam footage was fast man.

Bought the bus number plate for tomorrow's 4D draw... Couldn't find the uncensored number plate photo earlier but thank u TS for showing it

What has happened to the speed limiter for buses ? Tampered or removed already ?

This post has been edited by -PuPu^ZaPruD3r-: Jun 10 2025, 12:24 PM

https://www.hmetro.com.my/utama/2025/06/122...an-bas-21-saman

Polis mengesahkan sebanyak 18 saman dikeluarkan kepada pemandu.

13 saman dikeluarkan atas kesalahan memandu laju.

bas terbabit turut mempunyai rekod sebanyak 21 saman dikeluarkan atas kesalahan trafik.

well that should tell you everything .

Its sad since this accident is avoidable with the proper SOP and enforcement .



This post has been edited by MegaCanonF: Jun 10 2025, 12:29 PM