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post Jun 9 2025, 03:36 PM, updated 7 months ago

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Recently, yours truly went on a 10-car electric-only (BEV) trip down south to Johor to check out the capabilities of a recently launched model. We are not going to mention the name of the brand hosting the convoy drive, because the outcome is the same regardless of whether we are driving ten Proton e.Mas 7s, BYD Sealions or Tesla Model Ys.

Instead, we would like to focus on the current state of the BEV infrastructure in Malaysia. While the number of charging stations has been ramping up across the country, there is still the question of whether our infrastructure can handle during peak hours. What you see on curated social media content is not always true, and this is our raw experience, told as it is


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During the final day of the media drive, the organisers told us to take a pit stop at Johor Premium Outlets (JPO) to recharge our cars. The plan was to have them charged up to 90%, which should provide us enough range to head back to Kuala Lumpur.

Under WLTP tests, the tested car has a maximum range of 480 km. Our journey from JPO to KL would take 309 km, so a 90% state of charge (SoC) would be more than sufficient.

When we reached JPO, most of the cars had about 20% or fewer SoC and charging up to 90% via a DC charger would take an average of around 30 to 40 minutes. The reason for charging at JPO was that there were plenty of charging bays – 30 DC charge points – available and 1 MW worth of capacity, which is sufficient to support charging our ten cars and other owners.

In theory, these figures sound very confident to local BEV lobbyists who harp on the virtues and beliefs of BEVs being the sure-fire future of personal mobility.

But some of us faced issues with the chargers, which either could not initially accept the payment or were having connectivity issues. The charger my car was assigned to was a 640-kW DC fast charger meant for commercial electric buses, operated by DC Handal.

It took about 10 minutes to get the car charging, which was capped at around 160 kW, but this was after a few attempts to initiate the charge, possibly due to a problem with the pay terminal and the intense heat – it was 34°C that afternoon
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Then, the entire JPO suffered a blackout, and the roasting heat turned to a massive downpour. At this point, less than half of the ten cars in our convoy have been charged up to 90%. Most of us had between 50-60% of SoC, and the organiser suggested charging their cars at another charging station at one of the highway rest stops.

Eventually, power was restored to the premium outlet after about 10-15 minutes. The organiser told a few of us that have not left to remain at the charging stations. We managed to get our car charged up to 90% at JPO and made our way back to the capital with 14% charge remaining.


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Through a stroke of bad luck, the blackout was later revealed not to have been caused by us charging, but a scheduled supply cut to facilitate construction nearby. Nobody cares about the cause of a blackout at a petrol station because drivers will simply ignore it and go to another location further down the road, but in this case, it’s enough to delay the progress of 10 cars.

Large-scale interstate driving events like these always involve overworked event crews who will have to take the cars to charge, and wait, usually through the night, especially if the destination is far from major city centres. Take this recent trip down south. There are three charging stations nearby, and even if they support DC charging, it would take time to recharge them to a feasible range.

10 cars multiplied by 20 minutes of charging, which does not include the time to move each of them around and get connected with the chargers, and you’re looking at a long night.

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Buy a be if you own a landed property and commute to work or drive around the same city.

If you plan to balik Kampung. Use petrol.

Bev aint for everyone.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 9 2025, 03:48 PM)
Buy a be if you own a landed property and commute to work or drive around the same city.

If you plan to balik Kampung. Use petrol.

Bev aint for everyone.
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Been using EV to balik kampung few times already. The only issues faced is lack of telco coverage to activate the charger. Fuk maxshit.
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post Jun 9 2025, 03:52 PM

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Yup, EV infrastrucuture in Malaysia still has long way to go.

Reliability of the chargers is the key point. You do not want waste time driving to the charging stations and see the charging points are down.
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daily commute around town no need go back kampung anywhere with just occasional interstate roadtrips is fine

kalau often interstate then memang sendiri cari pasal lor unless the adventurous kind, but those ppl also won't complain la mostly know what they are getting into.
tapi those who no buy make more noise than those that do kek
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But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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If all CPOs can change to credit/debit card payment without involving apps, it will be much better charging experience.
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QUOTE(Dothan @ Jun 9 2025, 03:56 PM)
If all CPOs can change to credit/debit card payment without involving apps, it will be much better charging experience.
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ya like DC Handal good
they are decking out WCE now, once WCE (finally) completes i think will be quite pleasant experience to go up north, maybe even better than PLUS (other than being 2 lane only kek)
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so far i encounter issue while driving EV

1. inconsiderate owner, although public charger but die2 charge up to 100% despite got see pipul queue to charge (eg: Gambang WB Gentari)

2. PHEV owner use public charger (come on, you already have an engine, why need to use outside charger, thought the engine can help with the charging)

3. App problem (can't activate, need few minute to refresh before can re-activate the charger)

4. Sometime i met another EV owner who switch Bay (Eg: Park at Bay 1 but using Bay 2 charger).

so far best experience...

a. Some mall offer free charging
b. sometime got free/discounted charging rate.
c. EV can park closest to entrance (if charging). Some offer dedicate Green parking zone which is also close to the entrance.
d. Some CPO offer promotion (eg: if charging, can get discount on beverage similar to TESLA).

For me is not a hassle but an experience, i dont really complain much.
Happy with my purchase.
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Clearly from the article , this is not an infra problem but the design of the entire ecosystem down to technology. Small problem compounds the unpleasant experience.
App la, service providers la, users la.
Try harder
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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This is interesting. nod.gif
Could you point out the source so I can read it please.
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 9 2025, 04:00 PM)
ya like DC Handal good
they are decking out WCE now, once WCE (finally) completes i think will be quite pleasant experience to go up north, maybe even better than PLUS (other than being 2 lane only kek)
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I always charge at DC Handal at Bamboo Hills right after coming out from Jalan Duta toll. The best spot to charge as can makan also.


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If Malusial can make Solar as cheap as CCP Land, then more ppl will buy EV.

Then we have more Petrol to export.

But malusial wants to profit in everything, Solar also 3X more expansive than CCP land.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 9 2025, 04:02 PM)
so far i encounter issue while driving EV

1. inconsiderate owner, although public charger but die2 charge up to 100% despite got see pipul queue to charge (eg: Gambang WB Gentari)

2. PHEV owner use public charger (come on, you already have an engine, why need to use outside charger, thought the engine can help with the charging)

3. App problem (can't activate, need few minute to refresh before can re-activate the charger)

4. Sometime i met another EV owner who switch Bay (Eg: Park at Bay 1 but using Bay 2 charger).

so far best experience...

a. Some mall offer free charging
b. sometime got free/discounted charging rate.
c. EV can park closest to entrance (if charging). Some offer dedicate Green parking zone which is also close to the entrance.
d. Some CPO offer promotion (eg: if charging, can get discount on beverage similar to TESLA).

For me is not a hassle but an experience, i dont really complain much.
Happy with my purchase.
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I'm sorry but I need to call you out on your entitlement. Who ever gets the charger first has his or her rights to charge all the way to 100% and this applies for hybrid drivers too.
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jun 9 2025, 04:12 PM)
This is interesting.  nod.gif
Could you point out the source so I can read it please.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111630302

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 9 2025, 03:53 PM)
daily commute around town no need go back kampung anywhere with just occasional interstate roadtrips is fine

kalau often interstate then memang sendiri cari pasal lor unless the adventurous kind, but those ppl also won't complain la mostly know what they are getting into.
tapi those who no buy make more noise than those that do kek
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U pernah took your emas for interstate travel?

I don't know what he is complaining lah, that one group of media die die mau charge at JPO JB, padahal Tangkak pitstop can stop and charge, go makan beef noodle then continue journey.

All i can say EV infrastructure has improve tremendously compare to year 2023/2024.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 04:15 PM)
U pernah took your emas for interstate travel?

I don't know what he is complaining lah, that one group of media die die mau charge at JPO JB, padahal Tangkak pitstop can stop and charge, go makan beef noodle then continue journey.

All i can say EV infrastructure has improve tremendously compare to year 2023/2024.
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Because it's the organisers that asked them to do so
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the organisers told us to take a pit stop at Johor Premium Outlets (JPO)

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The condo i renting already have multiple ev charging bay facility.

1 other condo i own also already install EV charger facility.

Just another 1 apartment I own those conservative jmb machem dont want to install. Those ghetto maderfaker…
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 9 2025, 04:14 PM)
I'm sorry but I need to call you out on your entitlement. Who ever gets the charger first has his or her rights to charge all the way to 100% and this applies for hybrid drivers too.
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wait till the card is turned and YOU faced the same consequence while desperate to find charging spot, then come back and tell us your experience LEL.

i propose all public DC chargers to set to max tu 80% only, put 4x rate for overstay charging.

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When will car power bank be commercialize with solar panel + generative electric?

Just hook 1 on your car as back up. No problem.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 9 2025, 04:20 PM)
Because it's the organisers that asked them to do so
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yea i know, but the rest of them sleep inside the BEV and enjoy the aircond laugh.gif

The second part of the article is quite ok, the EV infrastructure for east coast is quite limited. CPO reluctant to invest in the area where lesser traffic and taking longer time of ROI, which something the government has to look at.

Government target mau 10k charger by year 2025, now baru 4k+ only

https://www.planmalaysia.gov.my/mevnet/
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 04:15 PM)
U pernah took your emas for interstate travel?
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not until too far yet haven't had the need to
maybe planning one soon
and maybe gonna try car camping soon also maybe around bukit tinggi
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 04:24 PM)
yea i know, but the rest of them sleep inside the BEV and enjoy the aircond laugh.gif
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Haiya, it was because you asked why they die die want to go to JPO. It's because the organisers asked them to. And I presume because JPO has 30 charging bays, which in theory they all could charge 10 cars at once (note: they can't) compared to Tangkak which IIRC only has 8 bays.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 9 2025, 04:20 PM)
The condo i renting already have multiple ev charging bay facility.

1 other condo i own also already install EV charger facility.

Just another 1 apartment I own those conservative  jmb machem dont want to install. Those ghetto maderfaker…
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 9 2025, 04:02 PM)
so far i encounter issue while driving EV

1. inconsiderate owner, although public charger but die2 charge up to 100% despite got see pipul queue to charge (eg: Gambang WB Gentari)

2. PHEV owner use public charger (come on, you already have an engine, why need to use outside charger, thought the engine can help with the charging)

3. App problem (can't activate, need few minute to refresh before can re-activate the charger)

4. Sometime i met another EV owner who switch Bay (Eg: Park at Bay 1 but using Bay 2 charger).

so far best experience...

a. Some mall offer free charging
b. sometime got free/discounted charging rate.
c. EV can park closest to entrance (if charging). Some offer dedicate Green parking zone which is also close to the entrance.
d. Some CPO offer promotion (eg: if charging, can get discount on beverage similar to TESLA).

For me is not a hassle but an experience, i dont really complain much.
Happy with my purchase.
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#2 is a plus for PHEV, go mall no need hassle find parking
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 04:24 PM)
yea i know, but the rest of them sleep inside the BEV and enjoy the aircond laugh.gif

The second part of the article is quite ok, the EV infrastructure for east coast is quite limited. CPO reluctant to invest in the area where lesser traffic and taking longer time of ROI, which something the government has to look at.

Government target mau 10k charger by year 2025, now baru 4k+ only

https://www.planmalaysia.gov.my/mevnet/
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Number 4k has been stalling from last year end.
very less news lately got new charging station coming up
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jun 9 2025, 04:21 PM)
wait till the card is turned and YOU faced the same consequence while desperate to find charging spot, then come back and tell us your experience LEL.

i propose all public DC chargers to set to max tu 80% only, put 4x rate for overstay charging.
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I don't own a Bev but I sure as hell won't use it to travel interstate nor will I allow it to be dependently charged in public area.
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Simple, logical calculation.

KL/Selangor people would be earliest adopters of EV compared to other states, purely because of financial.

Most KL/Sgor population live in high rise. Take a normal condo, one block maybe 400 units. 400 unit, 2 car per family, 800 cars.

Presuming just 10% change to EV that's 80 EV charge bays that is needed to be installed, metered to each unit. And that's only one block, not whole condo yet. Sure, you can charge with normal 3 pin outlet, but will you? And still have the question of TNB bill, because whole condo not paying the maintenance fee for you to charge your personal EV.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 04:15 PM)
U pernah took your emas for interstate travel?

I don't know what he is complaining lah, that one group of media die die mau charge at JPO JB, padahal Tangkak pitstop can stop and charge, go makan beef noodle then continue journey.

All i can say EV infrastructure has improve tremendously compare to year 2023/2024.
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Obviously they're not intentionally find fault but just highlighting challenges and issues that may still need to be worked on.

It's also educational for people to know what they're getting into.

Unlike those hardsell posts from certain site.



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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jun 9 2025, 04:38 PM)
Number 4k has been stalling from last year end.
very less news lately got new charging station coming up
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dunno license side or what approval side very slow or got what issue

some sites look completed since last year but until now not yet operational

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[quote=Zaryl,Jun 9 2025, 04:21 PM]
wait till the card is turned and YOU faced the same consequence while desperate to find charging spot, then come back and tell us your experience LEL.

i propose all public DC chargers to set to max tu 80% only, put 4x rate for overstay charging.
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Maybe back to per minute charging? That way they'll feel the pain if hog charger.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 9 2025, 04:39 PM)
Simple, logical calculation.

KL/Selangor people would be earliest adopters of EV compared to other states, purely because of financial.

Most KL/Sgor population live in high rise. Take a normal condo, one block maybe 400 units. 400 unit, 2 car per family, 800 cars.

Presuming just 10% change to EV that's 80 EV charge bays that is needed to be installed, metered to each unit. And that's only one block, not whole condo yet. Sure, you can charge with normal 3 pin outlet, but will you? And still have the question of TNB bill, because whole condo not paying the maintenance fee for you to charge your personal EV.
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maintenance fee or not, it's not bear by the resident also

without EV station in condo, residences need to pay the maintenance fee also

got what difference laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 9 2025, 04:02 PM)
so far i encounter issue while driving EV

1. inconsiderate owner, although public charger but die2 charge up to 100% despite got see pipul queue to charge (eg: Gambang WB Gentari)

2. PHEV owner use public charger (come on, you already have an engine, why need to use outside charger, thought the engine can help with the charging)


3. App problem (can't activate, need few minute to refresh before can re-activate the charger)

4. Sometime i met another EV owner who switch Bay (Eg: Park at Bay 1 but using Bay 2 charger).

This I really dont understand. Petrol so cheap and they carry a huge genset already in the engine bay.
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With more and more EV, will there be power crunch till there’s frequent blackout? I can see that infrastructure isn’t coping with the development, need to support this and that data center.
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QUOTE(marvinben @ Jun 9 2025, 04:46 PM)
This I really dont understand. Petrol so cheap and they carry a huge genset already in the engine bay.
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Actually why not? Their cars are capable of plugging in and it's "good for the environment" when they run on EV mode as much as they can. Just because they have an engine then they are not allowed to charge at public chargers?
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jun 9 2025, 04:44 PM)
maintenance fee or not, it's not bear by the resident also

without EV station in condo, residences need to pay the maintenance fee also

got what difference  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Waste my time talking to bodo like you.

Who pay for your swimming pool and your pak guard? The lights in your parking lot, switch on don't need pay TNB? If add more EV cars charging who pay? So unless TNB install meter at every single charging bay, everyone have to share la.
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QUOTE(marvinben @ Jun 9 2025, 04:46 PM)
This I really dont understand. Petrol so cheap and they carry a huge genset already in the engine bay.
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PHEV usually no install home charger. If use car like normal petrol car, the hybrid system don't save a lot.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 9 2025, 04:14 PM)
I'm sorry but I need to call you out on your entitlement. Who ever gets the charger first has his or her rights to charge all the way to 100% and this applies for hybrid drivers too.
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nah.. i lespek owner who charge at 80% especially highway DC station.

and it is called being considerate for others.

if multiple station available, i wont mind.

here, only 1 station with single gun.

got 3 cars waiting...

nevertheless, I learnt my lesson and only go out charging or plan charging at an area with multiple station.

Fortunately the app got live charging, hence I can plan ahead.




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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 9 2025, 04:50 PM)
Waste my time talking to bodo like you.

Who pay for your swimming pool and your pak guard? The lights in your parking lot, switch on don't need pay TNB? If add more EV cars charging who pay? So unless TNB install meter at every single charging bay, everyone have to share la.
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bro.....some operator propose zero capex at your condo, they will undergo the charging bills directly from management office to your unit.

which cost none to the residence.

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bodo pulak laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 9 2025, 04:20 PM)
The condo i renting already have multiple ev charging bay facility.

1 other condo i own also already install EV charger facility.

Just another 1 apartment I own those conservative  jmb machem dont want to install. Those ghetto maderfaker…
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how much is the charging rate?

QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 9 2025, 04:26 PM)
not until too far yet haven't had the need to
maybe planning one soon
and maybe gonna try car camping soon also maybe around bukit tinggi
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sleep inside the car?

QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 9 2025, 04:31 PM)
Haiya, it was because you asked why they die die want to go to JPO. It's because the organisers asked them to. And I presume because JPO has 30 charging bays, which in theory they all could charge 10 cars at once (note: they can't) compared to Tangkak which IIRC only has 8 bays.
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mau test the car limit mah, macam itu soyacincau did from round trip for emas prime to melaka
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Jun 9 2025, 03:51 PM)
Been using EV to balik kampung few times already. The only issues faced is lack of telco coverage to activate the charger. Fuk maxshit.
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Need telco coverage to activate the charger! doh.gif
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 9 2025, 04:39 PM)
Simple, logical calculation.

KL/Selangor people would be earliest adopters of EV compared to other states, purely because of financial.

Most KL/Sgor population live in high rise. Take a normal condo, one block maybe 400 units. 400 unit, 2 car per family, 800 cars.

Presuming just 10% change to EV that's 80 EV charge bays that is needed to be installed, metered to each unit. And that's only one block, not whole condo yet. Sure, you can charge with normal 3 pin outlet, but will you? And still have the question of TNB bill, because whole condo not paying the maintenance fee for you to charge your personal EV.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 9 2025, 04:50 PM)
Waste my time talking to bodo like you.

Who pay for your swimming pool and your pak guard? The lights in your parking lot, switch on don't need pay TNB? If add more EV cars charging who pay? So unless TNB install meter at every single charging bay, everyone have to share la.
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unlikely they will follow China style, every resident parking lot has 7/11/22kw AC charger, most likely install common charger with pay as u use, zero capex for the JMB/MC to bear. Profit after opex/capex then split into 70/30, 30% goes to JMB/MC.

QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 9 2025, 04:40 PM)
Obviously they're not intentionally find fault but just highlighting challenges and issues that may still need to be worked on.

It's also educational for people to know what they're getting into.

Unlike those hardsell posts from certain site.
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Actually sudah improve a lot, u just need more EV cars on the road to push the CPO installing more charger, after all it is profit oriented business and government is not forking single cent for it.

QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 9 2025, 04:41 PM)
dunno license side or what approval side very slow or got what issue

some sites look completed since last year but until now not yet operational

malaysian efficiency
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East coast like Terengganu is the worst, literally handful of charger there only.


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 05:03 PM)
East coast like Terengganu is the worst, literally handful of charger there only.
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Terengganu alot already

Mydin gong badak
Pusar sains & kreativiti terengganu
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Go to U pantai batu buruk
Go to U dataran shahbandar
Upcoming chargesini mayang mall.



Meanwhile perlis only have 1

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Maybe pushing for AWAS point to point is a trick for BEV adoption. U speed fast2. Then take 30mins rest to charge back. But if that area charger rosak... then u gg lor. Have to wait until the point2point more than the speed limit then only drive pass it.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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how much is the cheapest EV cost in indon compared to cheapest ICE.
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QUOTE(bottomfrag @ Jun 9 2025, 04:49 PM)
Actually why not? Their cars are capable of plugging in and it's "good for the environment" when they run on EV mode as much as they can. Just because they have an engine then they are not allowed to charge at public chargers?
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I mean if the chargers are empty thats ok. But die die need charge till 100% when there's a dongfeng/byd/emat7 waiting isn't very civil. PHEV charging speed is slow also.
(40kW J.ko j7 phev vs 88kW emas7 spec kosong)
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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all about petrol price,
if Ron95 at RM5 per little, u will see full force of BEV jamming the road.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM)
all about petrol price,
if Ron95 at RM5 per little, u will see full force of BEV jamming the road.
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Thailand same story. China same story. Fill full tank in China need 3-4 hundred rmb. That's the main reason why they buy bev
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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Their dinosaur juice much much pricier than us
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 9 2025, 04:14 PM)
I'm sorry but I need to call you out on your entitlement. Who ever gets the charger first has his or her rights to charge all the way to 100% and this applies for hybrid drivers too.
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This is where graphed charging rate should apply

At Electron Tapah, the charging fee is by duration one and it’s ridiculously high (above RM3/kWh) if you want to charge above 80-90%.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 05:57 PM)
how much is the charging rate?
sleep inside the car?
mau test the car limit mah, macam itu soyacincau did from round trip for emas prime to melaka
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Rm1 per kwh. With annual membership, discount become 75 or 80 cent iinm.

Chargesini no membership. Time Charge n Go does offer membership rate.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 9 2025, 04:02 PM)
so far i encounter issue while driving EV

1. inconsiderate owner, although public charger but die2 charge up to 100% despite got see pipul queue to charge (eg: Gambang WB Gentari)

2. PHEV owner use public charger (come on, you already have an engine, why need to use outside charger, thought the engine can help with the charging)


3. App problem (can't activate, need few minute to refresh before can re-activate the charger)

4. Sometime i met another EV owner who switch Bay (Eg: Park at Bay 1 but using Bay 2 charger).

so far best experience...

a. Some mall offer free charging
b. sometime got free/discounted charging rate.
c. EV can park closest to entrance (if charging). Some offer dedicate Green parking zone which is also close to the entrance.
d. Some CPO offer promotion (eg: if charging, can get discount on beverage similar to TESLA).

For me is not a hassle but an experience, i dont really complain much.
Happy with my purchase.
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Ini marehsia, banyak selfish, low class owners. Some just leave their cars to charge and go shop more than 3 hours before coming back (at malls). Guess most of them are apartment owners.


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QUOTE(marvinben @ Jun 9 2025, 05:36 PM)
I mean if the chargers are empty thats ok. But die die need charge till 100% when there's a dongfeng/byd/emat7 waiting isn't very civil. PHEV charging speed is slow also.
(40kW J.ko j7 phev vs 88kW emas7 spec kosong)
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It might not be considerate or nice, but it's their right.

And then there are people calling to stop EV charge at 80%. That's being selfish as well. For all we know, that person might not have time to charge regularly or may be preparing for a long road trip and wants to have max charge available. Also LFP needs full charge every now and then to calibrate.
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QUOTE(msacras @ Jun 9 2025, 07:05 PM)
Their dinosaur juice much much pricier than us
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Our country pro ICE. Every year subsidy petrol and diesel rm30bil+ enjoy by all merehsians.

EV just enjoy free tax waiver. If put tax woso max gomen revenue can get probably rm5-7bil annually.

So obviously bigger tongkat ICE will win ler
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jun 9 2025, 06:09 PM)
Ini marehsia, banyak selfish, low class owners. Some just leave their cars to charge and go shop more than 3 hours before coming back (at malls). Guess most of them are apartment owners.
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Ppl not get used to the just 80% charge policy yet since they’ve been on ICE full tank all these while before.

Also not helping is the insufficiency of charging ports + far distance between stations along the major intercity highway.

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM)
all about petrol price,
if Ron95 at RM5 per little, u will see full force of BEV jamming the road.
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Wont be rm5 lah

user posted image

Our border petrol station that sell petron unsubsidized only rm2.56 per liter
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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 9 2025, 05:31 PM)
how much is the cheapest EV cost in indon compared to cheapest ICE.
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They have 70-80k wuling EV's but those are not the good selling models. Less than few hundred unit per month also. Best selling ones in Indo are the BYD Sealion 7 , BYD M6 and Denza D9. Those same price as in Malaysia
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QUOTE(Fork @ Jun 9 2025, 04:49 PM)
With more and more EV, will there be power crunch till there’s frequent blackout? I can see that infrastructure isn’t coping with the development, need to support this and that data center.
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To install EV charging bays in area outside of KV, you usually need a TNB substation nearby. In KV power lines can be provided through underground sewer. But outside of KV, need substation. And usually substation is the paling lambat lulus, as you need approval and money.

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No problem if kampung much lesser than the range of ev, mine is only 55% if include buffer max 70% , then use granny charger at kampung

Not everyone kampung is in kelate
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With more and more EV, will there be power crunch till there’s frequent blackout? I can see that infrastructure isn’t coping with the development, need to support this and that data center.
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lol

frequent blackout

this is not 1990 bro
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Government should mandate all EV charger accept credit card or debit card without the need of an app. Just tap and charge. Like in petrol station.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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Indo don't have 'National car' to buy unlike us.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Jun 9 2025, 08:35 PM)
Indo don't have 'National car' forced to buy unlike us.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Jun 9 2025, 08:35 PM)
Indo don't have 'National car' to buy unlike us.
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doesn't make any difference, the car prices in indo are similar to ours after currency conversion. They dont have "cheap cars"
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM)
all about petrol price,
if Ron95 at RM5 per little, u will see full force of BEV jamming the road.
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Lol why need to butthurt towards ICE user
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM)
all about petrol price,
if Ron95 at RM5 per little, u will see full force of BEV jamming the road.
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I don’t think so, people got no time to charge their at the petrol station and won’t have enough chargers at home.
Why want to cari susah Q long long for charging port and then wait while charging some more. No life ah.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 06:23 PM)
They have 70-80k wuling EV's but those are not the good selling models. Less than few hundred unit per month also. Best selling ones in Indo are the BYD Sealion 7 , BYD M6 and Denza D9. Those same price as in Malaysia
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These are rich people cars, and they for sure have more ICE cars. Not they drive also, they probably have driver to send them to kantor and back.
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petrol is cheap here, why change? :X
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QUOTE(bottomfrag @ Jun 9 2025, 06:11 PM)
It might not be considerate or nice, but it's their right.

And then there are people calling to stop EV charge at 80%. That's being selfish as well. For all we know, that person might not have time to charge regularly or may be preparing for a long road trip and wants to have max charge available. Also LFP needs full charge every now and then to calibrate.
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Maybe you're not familiar but charging time for 80-100% will take more time than 20-80%. This is where the issues lies, it's better to stop at 80% and recharge at the next stop.
Many does have the same thinking as yours but I'm glad many CPO have taken notice and hard stop their chargers at 80% to reduce such behaviour during peak season.

Regarding LFP full charge for calibration, you need AC Charging, not DC. It take roughly 1-1.5 hours just for calibration. You'll get charged for idling too if do this at public charger.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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Petrol price higher

Ppl switching there to save fuel cost

Same situation like in Thailand
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QUOTE(marvinben @ Jun 10 2025, 07:59 AM)
Maybe you're not familiar but charging time for 80-100% will take more time than 20-80%. This is where the issues lies, it's better to stop at 80% and recharge at the next stop.
Many does have the same thinking as yours but I'm glad many CPO have taken notice and hard stop their chargers at 80% to reduce such behaviour during peak season.

Regarding LFP full charge for calibration, you need AC Charging, not DC. It take roughly 1-1.5 hours just for calibration. You'll get charged for idling too if do this at public charger.
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I do know about the charging time difference. Again, chargers may not be available where they are headed. But yeah, I don't own an EV so views of either side doesn't affect me.

Thanks for info on the LFP calibration. Always thought it was SOC dependent and doesn't matter how you charge as long as it hits 100 for a period.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM)
all about petrol price,
if Ron95 at RM5 per little, u will see full force of BEV jamming the road.
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If ron95 is rm5 per litre u tink tnb gonna let u happy with cheap electricity also?
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QUOTE(party @ Jun 10 2025, 08:40 AM)
If ron95 is rm5 per litre u tink tnb gonna let u happy with cheap electricity also?
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TNB don't use Ron95 to generate power.

also BEV should combo with Solar NEM.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jun 10 2025, 12:02 PM)
TNB don't use Ron95 to generate power.

also BEV should combo with Solar NEM.
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U 1st day living in msia?
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U 1st day living in msia?
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as i know TNB used LPG to generate power, which is not RON95



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as i know TNB used LPG to generate power, which is not RON95
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