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alexei
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Jun 9 2025, 08:56 AM
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pandai-pandai lo
see the shop why offer so low price, other merchandise on sale, reviews etc
if too good to be true, that's probably it
AGM batteries are twice the price even for normal car batteries, so if compare bike AGM vs car flooded, it's close
if want to reliably source, go to a reliable bike shop if want reliable online source, check their warranty
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alexei
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Jun 9 2025, 10:20 AM
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Please plan a teardown of the Dynavolt once it's done I thought the same, but... unfortunately, some Lithium packs don't actually have BMS QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 9 2025, 09:51 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Motorcycle Lithium batteries are built with BMS that is specifically designed with a bike charging system. That said, here are the pros and cons.
Pros Very light weight, often smaller formfactor, doesnt leak, can be mounted every which way, even upsidedown. BMS will cut off the battery if it falls below minimum voltage, protecting the cells (for L/A and AGM, once the battery discharges, sulfication occurs and damages the battery) Low self discharge rate Excellent amp draw
Cons Equivalent Lithiums typically only have 1/2 the reserve capacity of same "sized" AGM. This is because lithium battery manufacturers follow the CCA of regular AGM to "size" the battery. My new lithium ytx14zt is 76whr, while the factory AGM is at 144whr. So read the specs carefully. Not good in cold weather (does not apply to us, see below) Can explode and catch fire spontaneously (hehehehehe.... especially charged when very cold) Lithiums need a short warm up to wake up (by turning on ACC and lights) before operating below freezing temperature.
So depending on your needs, if you got an infrequently used bike with inherent high standby draw (pretty much any new modern bike especially those with keyless, always on gps, security systems), Lithiums may not be suitable, but if you have a very old bike with no electronics, the low self discharge rate of lithium will be better. And all bikes will benefit from the much lighter weight. If you have an infrequently used bike, in order to protect the L/A AGM battery, you have to invest in a trickle charger anyway. Any full discharge damage may be irreversible....as it may not charge up to full capacity anymore and it would only get worst over time. My cheap tokio Ytx9 has one full discharge and it turned into a paperweight, even using a pulse charger didn't bring it back alive. More expensive AGMs may be more resistant, but chemistry is chemistry.
Im still hoping Lithium battery manufacturers will put in a USB type C charging port so i can just stick a power bank and charge it. Sure they need a more complex dual input BMS...but I can dream. 
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alexei
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Jun 9 2025, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 9 2025, 10:59 AM) Pretty sure something like the dynavolt battery will have a BMS. At least it says in its spec. Plus with the battery display, im sure its driven by the BMS. Will keep the teardown in mind when its done for...if not just to humour you. Hahahaha mostly are directly connected, with active balancer This post has been edited by alexei: Jun 10 2025, 09:17 AM
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alexei
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Jun 20 2025, 01:56 PM
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I paid ~700 for a Lithium (label says Lifepo4), so far 2nd year but it's a low usage bike. once it was left there for 6 months, and still able to start the bike
Now I'm just gonna get RC LiPo 4S and connect them to my bike and use as is
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alexei
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Sep 29 2025, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Sep 28 2025, 03:53 PM) Update: My bike couldn't start again after I rode a short distance. When I push the starter, I can only hear the fuel pump and relay clicks but no cranking, similar to the symptoms when my stock battery died. I have narrowed it down to the battery because I could push start my bike running down a slope. I would advise everyone to avoid the green Tokiohama batteries widely available on Shopee, it's a big piece of crap. When I was doing my research for batteries to buy, quite a few riders on FB mentioned they swapped to this and the battery died within 5 ~ 6 months. In fact, my bike would intermittently not start if I didn't have rides longer than 15 minutes each time. Did some research and narrowed it down to a few choices I found on Shopee: Thai-X (RM150) - A lot of recommendations in FB groups. Nippon G.R.P. (RM150) - MForce batteries that came with the RT3 scooters. Reviews seem a mix bag though. Dynavolt (RM188) - Somewhat reputable Chinese battery. Most likely getting the Thai-X. you gotta figure out the output voltage that the battery is getting before deciding which battery type to get if 14.4V then cannot use Gel battery AGM < 15V Normal < 14.7V or 13.8V (when full) Gel < 14.4V or 13.8V (when full) - very sensitive to overcharging
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alexei
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Sep 29 2025, 09:43 AM
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JustForFunthis is from manual, 14.5~14.9V. you should try to measure it. if this is the case, the bike cannot use Gel battery, the charging system will over-volt it and kill it within weeks » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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alexei
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Oct 1 2025, 09:19 AM
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This post has been edited by alexei: Oct 2 2025, 09:00 AM
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alexei
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Oct 2 2025, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Oct 1 2025, 10:03 PM) Starts with the fuel pump priming sound as usual, and buzzes when you press the starter without cranking. I thought about doing the relay bypass to see if it really is the relay, but it is not easily reachable. Maybe this coming weekend if I can find the space to work on my bike (sucks to be living in a condo) ... if not I will just send it to the mechanic. I have so far: - Cleaned the starter: no use - Rode the bike 20 minutes on highway to charge up the battery: no use as well Strangely I managed to start the bike after 5 to 6 attempts this afternoon, and in the evening when I tried again it started without issue. I will try it again on the weekend, if it still starts on first try, I will try to ride it around to fully charge up the battery and see how it goes. The only fear is actually riding all the way to the mechanic, only for the bike to behave perfectly again. sounds like an intermittent starter relay issue does the bike have voltmeter? for me, that would be the first thing I install on my bike with electric starter - I've had stator recoiled on two of my bikes, so it's something I am religious about
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alexei
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Oct 2 2025, 10:37 AM
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This post has been edited by alexei: Oct 3 2025, 09:01 PM
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alexei
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Oct 2 2025, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Oct 2 2025, 06:34 PM) So my 12v voltmeter arrived and I tested the battery. Bike off: 12.7 Engine idling: 13.8 ~ 14.2 Bike also started without issue after a full day of idling... strange. I will monitor further and try to hold off the mechanic visit until it's December, when it's time to do my oil change and minor service, and have everything done altogether. The little battery voltmeter I got was quite handy, small enough to fit right under the rear passenger seat compartment. It's the ANENG BT-171 for anyone interested. the readings are good but, for bikes, you gotta rev til 4~5k to get the actual reading
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alexei
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Oct 6 2025, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Oct 6 2025, 06:26 PM) Is this connected directly to the battery (not switched off when the bike is off)? https://www.serdangmotorcycle.com/product/k...splay-waterpoof
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alexei
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Oct 7 2025, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Oct 6 2025, 10:28 PM) thanks I copied the link to show the wiring diagram, and did not check it was the correct link there's a module, and uses ACC power to switch between modes, so it protects the battery
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alexei
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Oct 22 2025, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Oct 22 2025, 09:44 AM) Just an update on my Dynavolt LFP battery. Started to see some voltage drop on start up. Still cranks good. Let's see how much longer this lasts. It's been like what? Only 6 months? The NK seems to eat battery. No one can get batteries to last over 2 years. Too much active always on electronics I think. that's the lithium ion? dafuq...
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