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Larangan kuil baru di Perak: Diskriminasi terselindung?

Kerajaan Negeri Perak dikritik susulan keputusan untuk tidak meluluskan sebarang permohonan pembinaan kuil baru di atas tanah kerajaan bagi tempoh sekurang-kurangnya lima tahun akan datang.

Presiden Parti Makkal Sakthi, RS Thanenthiran menyifatkan keputusan tersebut sebagai amat mengecewakan.

“Apakah mesej yang ingin disampaikan menerusi pekeliling ini? Adakah agama dan budaya kami tidak lagi diberi tempat dalam pembangunan negeri? Adakah sumbangan masyarakat India terhadap negeri ini boleh diketepikan begitu sahaja?


RS Thanenthiran

“Saya ingin tegaskan bahawa kuil bukan sekadar struktur fizikal. Ia adalah simbol kepercayaan, pusat komuniti, serta warisan budaya,” katanya.



Thanenthiran turut menjelaskan ramai tidak menyedari banyak kuil Hindu yang kini terletak di atas tanah kerajaan telah wujud sejak zaman penjajahan British.

Menurutnya, kuil berkenaan dibina oleh komuniti pekerja ladang dengan kebenaran rasmi daripada pihak kolonial ketika itu, bagi menjaga kebajikan dan kesejahteraan rohani masyarakat.

“Kita tidak boleh mengklasifikasikan semua kuil ini sebagai ‘tidak sah’ atau ‘struktur haram’ hanya kerana tiada dokumen rasmi.

"Isu ini tidak boleh dinilai semata-mata dari sudut undang-undang tanah, tetapi perlu dilihat dengan sensitiviti sejarah, budaya, dan peranan sosial kuil dalam masyarakat Hindu,” katanya.


Tegasnya, kerajaan negeri perlu segera menarik balik keputusan tersebut dan mencadangkan agar:

Satu pelan tindakan jangka panjang diwujudkan untuk menyemak status kuil-kuil Hindu yang telah lama berada di atas tanah kerajaan, dengan tujuan untuk memberi pengiktirafan rasmi dan penyelesaian sah.

Sesi libat urus secara terbuka dan telus diadakan bersama wakil masyarakat Hindu, pertubuhan bukan kerajaan (NGO) serta pakar warisan, sebelum sebarang dasar diperkenalkan yang menyentuh sensitiviti agama dan kaum.

Terdahulu, Exco Sumber Manusia, Kesihatan, Hal Ehwal Masyarakat India dan Integrasi Nasional Negeri Perak, A Sivanesan (gambar bawah) berkata kerajaan negeri telah membuat keputusan untuk melarang pembinaan kuil Hindu baru di atas tanah kerajaan selama lima tahun.


Jelasnya, perkara itu telah diputuskan menerusi Pekeliling Pengarah Tanah dan Galian Negeri Perak Bil. 3/2025 yang memberi panduan kepada pentadbir tanah berhubung dasar bagi Kaedah Pengurusan, Pelupusan dan Penguatkuasaan kawasan Rumah Ibadat Hindu (kuil) dan Tapak Perkuburan Hindu.

Menurut Sivanesan, Perak negeri pertama yang mengeluarkan pekeliling tersebut yang turut menyatakan walaupun kuil hendak dibina di atas tanah persendirian, ia tetap memerlukan kebenaran kerajaan.

"Kerajaan negeri tidak akan meluluskan apa-apa permohonan kuil baru sekurang-kurangnya dalam tempoh lima tahun akan datang.

“Sesiapa yang mahu membina juga boleh membeli tanah sendiri dan mendapatkan kelulusan pihak berkuasa tempatan (PBT), tetapi jika ia melibatkan tanah kerajaan, tindakan serta-merta akan diambil,” katanya selepas mempengerusikan Mesyuarat Jawatankuasa Hal Ehwal Agama Hindu Negeri di Bangunan Sri Perak pada Khamis.

“Sekiranya boleh dipindahkan, kita pindahkan.

“Kita tidak mahu mengambil tindakan untuk terus merobohkan kuil sedia ada kerana negara kita mempunyai kepelbagaian kaum dan toleransi adalah penting dalam menyelesaikan masalah sensitif melalui permuafakatan,” katanya lagi.

Sivanesan juga berkata Perak mempunyai sekitar 480 kuil yang berdaftar dan jumlah itu melebihi bilangan tokong dan gereja.

Jelasnya, kebanyakan kuil ini dibina pada masa dahulu dengan kebenaran daripada Jabatan Penguatkuasaan, bukan secara haram seperti yang sering disalah tafsirkan.


Sementara itu, Naib Presiden MIC, T Murugiah (gambar atas) menyelar kenyataan Sivanesan sebagai tidak sensitif malah bercanggah dengan Perkara 11 Perlembagaan Persekutuan yang menjamin kebebasan beragama kepada semua rakyat Malaysia.

“Mengapa sekatan ini hanya disasarkan kepada kuil Hindu? Adakah dasar ini turut terpakai kepada rumah ibadat agama lain seperti masjid, gereja atau tokong Cina?

“Apa yang akan berlaku kepada kuil Hindu yang telah wujud sejak beberapa dekad di atas tanah kerajaan? Adakah kerajaan negeri bercadang untuk merobohkannya?

“Adakah keputusan dasar ini dibuat melalui proses perundingan dan dialog dengan ketua-ketua masyarakat dan pertubuhan agama Hindu?

“Sikap tidak hormat dan diskriminasi terhadap agama Hindu seperti ini tidak boleh diterima, lebih-lebih lagi apabila ia datang daripada pemimpin kerajaan yang diamanahkan untuk melindungi semua rakyat tanpa mengira kaum atau kepercayaan,” tegasnya pada satu kenyataan hari ini.

Dia turut mendesak kerajaan Perak untuk mengeluarkan kenyataan rasmi bagi mengesahkan komitmen dalam melayan semua agama secara adil dan saksama, seperti yang dijamin oleh Perlembagaan Persekutuan.

Link: https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/745431
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he stupid or what?

the prohibition only on GOMEN/STATE LANDS!!

if they got their own land, by all means they can build whatever they want

idiots.
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Cukup la! Kita dah jemu dgn berita macam ni.
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"Sivanesan juga berkata Perak mempunyai sekitar 480 kuil yang berdaftar dan jumlah itu melebihi bilangan tokong dan gereja."

I thought indian only 11% in perak. this only legal temple.
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 8 2025, 12:34 AM)
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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Jun 8 2025, 01:10 AM)
first day in meleisia?
only can build masjid

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masjid also need to follow regulation. read news when gov destroy illegal masjid. church and tokong also same case. so far only temple got problem
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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jun 8 2025, 01:15 AM)
masjid also need to follow regulation. read news when gov destroy illegal masjid. church and tokong also same case. so far only temple got problem
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lol u think masjid will got problem?
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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Jun 8 2025, 01:16 AM)
lol u think masjid will got problem?
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it is. the regulation more strict than temple or church. all mosque and surau need to be register with state. now tell me, do we have one for temple?
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 8 2025, 12:34 AM)
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What cxb memorial they are building? Only mention memorial? Wtf memorial? Memorial communist ke? Memorial apa yg sangat menteigger sangat ni??
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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jun 8 2025, 01:20 AM)
it is. the regulation more strict than temple or church. all mosque and surau need to be register with state. now tell me, do we have one for temple?
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they can't even deal with those surau install speaker in apartment and blast louder than masjid
let alone masjid
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 8 2025, 01:21 AM)
What cxb memorial they are building? Only mention memorial? Wtf memorial? Memorial communist ke? Memorial apa yg sangat menteigger sangat ni??
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and pmx asking why got islamophobia
i see these ppl wearing cap i also takut

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 8 2025, 01:21 AM)
What cxb memorial they are building? Only mention memorial? Wtf memorial? Memorial communist ke? Memorial apa yg sangat menteigger sangat ni??
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like is said

abu pun takut

https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...n-masjid-524030

KLANG: Penduduk Kampung Raja Uda di sini mempertimbangkan untuk mempersembahkan memorandum bantahan kepada Sultan Selangor Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah berhubung pembinaan kompleks penyimpanan abu mayat setinggi empat tingkat bersebelahan masjid di kampung itu.
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I thought rokok is harom? that one all abu also come out everywhere

you stay there and don’t come here to work please

perfect definition of village idiots

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Are there any churches that are on gov land? Not talking about those old colonial churches. The modern one. Serious question.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 8 2025, 04:27 AM)
Are there any churches that are on gov land? Not talking about those old colonial churches. The modern one. Serious question.
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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Jun 8 2025, 01:10 AM)
first day in meleisia?
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QUOTE(nefashu @ Jun 8 2025, 01:20 AM)
it is. the regulation more strict than temple or church. all mosque and surau need to be register with state. now tell me, do we have one for temple?
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As the relijen of the federation and all the states except sarawak, its all too easy to build mosque and surau. Can easily acquire land to do that and they did.

Is there any temple or church on gov land? Maybe. But they will all reach the final destination. Demolished or pindah. Juz a matter of time.
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QUOTE(jueiri @ Jun 8 2025, 04:54 AM)
As the relijen of the federation and all the states except sarawak, its all too easy to build mosque and surau. Can easily acquire land to do that and they did.

Is there any temple or church on gov land? Maybe. But they will all reach the final destination. Demolished or pindah. Juz a matter of time.
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there is a reason why the gomen don't wan sign icerd
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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Jun 8 2025, 01:10 AM)
first day in meleisia?
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 8 2025, 01:21 AM)
What cxb memorial they are building? Only mention memorial? Wtf memorial? Memorial communist ke? Memorial apa yg sangat menteigger sangat ni??
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It is a columbarium and crematorium. I know 2 such places in Kedah which is smacked right in the Malay kampungs. One is quite remote but the other is in Alor Star. There was no such protests as well. Green wave in Kedah? Nah…..
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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Jun 8 2025, 01:22 AM)
and pmx asking why got islamophobia
i see these ppl wearing cap i also takut
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He is also part of the people who created this in his early days on BN1.0 and now.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 8 2025, 04:27 AM)
Are there any churches that are on gov land? Not talking about those old colonial churches. The modern one. Serious question.
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Nowadays, churches has gone mainstream stream. They rent shop lots.
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How can total ban?

Indian temples can consolidate for the same area?
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there is a reason why the gomen don't wan sign icerd
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Icerd it the most toothless set of UN convention. Nothing stopping countries that already signed to blatantly ignore the convention.

If Malaysia did sign also nothing will change. It's just that thanos use this icerd to rule out sentiments during his 2nd tenure as part of his plan to topple ph. It was successful as langkah Sheraton was the result. The only failure was that he fell along with it.
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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 8 2025, 07:53 AM)
Icerd it the most toothless set of UN convention. Nothing stopping countries that already signed to blatantly ignore the convention.

If Malaysia did sign also nothing will change. It's just that thanos use this icerd to rule out sentiments during his 2nd tenure as part of his plan to topple ph. It was successful as langkah Sheraton was the result. The only failure was that he fell along with it.
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regardless of whether it is toothless or not, whether anything will change after signing it

the refusal of signing is a reflection of 'they know what they are doing is wrong but they do it anyway'. now try to spin that
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 8 2025, 06:49 AM)
Nowadays, churches has gone mainstream stream. They rent shop lots.
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So answer is no lo.

Yeah a lot fo shoplot churches. Been like that for a long time alreadt.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 8 2025, 08:20 AM)
So answer is no lo.

Yeah a lot fo shoplot churches. Been like that for a long time alreadt.
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In remote areas, there might be, just not highlighted or noticed.

But nowadays, Buddhist viharas and churches are generally built on rented properties or own properties in shop lots. And as long as no one makes noise, the authorities just close eyes. The new Buddhist viharas do not burn joss sticks as much as the old ones.
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jun 8 2025, 07:04 AM)
Fuyoooh, puak paling tertindas

Everything oso wan free, buy your own land lah
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Last time in klang aka Columbia, got 1 huge mamak store build on ppl land don’t want to go away, said ancestor permit him to do biz here for free forever
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 8 2025, 02:56 AM)
like is said

abu pun takut

https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...n-masjid-524030

KLANG: Penduduk Kampung Raja Uda di sini mempertimbangkan untuk mempersembahkan memorandum bantahan kepada Sultan Selangor Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah berhubung pembinaan kompleks penyimpanan abu mayat setinggi empat tingkat bersebelahan masjid di kampung itu.
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Oh kira Macam cemetery lah. Faham faham.. Memang got unsure keagamaan pun. N normally tempat tempat Macam ni is near tokong or churches. Kenapa yg ni near mosque pulak. Ganjil. Siapa yg nak drive all the way n simpan Abu loved ones Kat kampung melayu ulu ulu area???

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 8 2025, 08:24 AM)
In remote areas, there might be, just not highlighted or noticed.

But nowadays, Buddhist viharas and churches are generally built on rented properties or own properties in shop lots. And as long as no one makes noise, the authorities just close eyes.  The new Buddhist viharas do not burn joss sticks as much as the old ones.
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The giant ass churce beside bukit Jalil highway? That looks like a space ship?
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 8 2025, 09:28 AM)
Oh kira Macam cemetery lah. Faham faham.. Memang got unsure keagamaan pun. N normally tempat tempat Macam ni is near tokong or churches. Kenapa yg ni near mosque pulak. Ganjil. Siapa yg nak drive all the way n simpan Abu loved ones Kat kampung melayu ulu ulu area???
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if not simpan in ulu place then simpan in the city?

u got brain or not

this the problems with malays

dont understand minorities after 67 years, have too much suspicious mind

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 8 2025, 09:41 AM)
if not simpan in ulu place then simpan in the city?

u got brain or not

this the problems with malays

dont understand minorities after 67 years, have too much suspicious mind
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You got read or not the article this is a super majorly Malay kpg. How are they exposed to culture for other minoritt races so their info is likely hundred percent from PAS politicians n Akmal Salleh. So this kind of mind set is expected. The Chinese association all rich rich I am preety sure the can find much better fengshui place back of mountain front face water area to buy n build expensive memorial centre's like the semyih virvana memorial centre.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 8 2025, 09:50 AM)
You got read or not the article this is a super majorly Malay kpg. How are they exposed to culture for other minoritt races so their info is likely hundred percent from PAS politicians n Akmal Salleh. So this kind of mind set is expected. The Chinese association all rich rich I am preety sure the can find much better fengshui place back of mountain front face water area to buy n build expensive memorial centre's like the semyih virvana memorial centre.
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land cheap mah

and not all cina rich ok

stop stereotyping

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Larangan kuil baru di Perak: Diskriminasi terselindung?

Kerajaan Negeri Perak dikritik susulan keputusan untuk tidak meluluskan sebarang permohonan pembinaan kuil baru di atas tanah kerajaan bagi tempoh sekurang-kurangnya lima tahun akan datang.

Presiden Parti Makkal Sakthi, RS Thanenthiran menyifatkan keputusan tersebut sebagai amat mengecewakan.

“Apakah mesej yang ingin disampaikan menerusi pekeliling ini? Adakah agama dan budaya kami tidak lagi diberi tempat dalam pembangunan negeri? Adakah sumbangan masyarakat India terhadap negeri ini boleh diketepikan begitu sahaja?
RS Thanenthiran

“Saya ingin tegaskan bahawa kuil bukan sekadar struktur fizikal. Ia adalah simbol kepercayaan, pusat komuniti, serta warisan budaya,” katanya.
Thanenthiran turut menjelaskan ramai tidak menyedari banyak kuil Hindu yang kini terletak di atas tanah kerajaan telah wujud sejak zaman penjajahan British.

Menurutnya, kuil berkenaan dibina oleh komuniti pekerja ladang dengan kebenaran rasmi daripada pihak kolonial ketika itu, bagi menjaga kebajikan dan kesejahteraan rohani masyarakat.

“Kita tidak boleh mengklasifikasikan semua kuil ini sebagai ‘tidak sah’ atau ‘struktur haram’ hanya kerana tiada dokumen rasmi.

"Isu ini tidak boleh dinilai semata-mata dari sudut undang-undang tanah, tetapi perlu dilihat dengan sensitiviti sejarah, budaya, dan peranan sosial kuil dalam masyarakat Hindu,” katanya.
Tegasnya, kerajaan negeri perlu segera menarik balik keputusan tersebut dan mencadangkan agar:

Satu pelan tindakan jangka panjang diwujudkan untuk menyemak status kuil-kuil Hindu yang telah lama berada di atas tanah kerajaan, dengan tujuan untuk memberi pengiktirafan rasmi dan penyelesaian sah.

Sesi libat urus secara terbuka dan telus diadakan bersama wakil masyarakat Hindu, pertubuhan bukan kerajaan (NGO) serta pakar warisan, sebelum sebarang dasar diperkenalkan yang menyentuh sensitiviti agama dan kaum.

Terdahulu, Exco Sumber Manusia, Kesihatan, Hal Ehwal Masyarakat India dan Integrasi Nasional Negeri Perak, A Sivanesan (gambar bawah) berkata kerajaan negeri telah membuat keputusan untuk melarang pembinaan kuil Hindu baru di atas tanah kerajaan selama lima tahun.
Jelasnya, perkara itu telah diputuskan menerusi Pekeliling Pengarah Tanah dan Galian Negeri Perak Bil. 3/2025 yang memberi panduan kepada pentadbir tanah berhubung dasar bagi Kaedah Pengurusan, Pelupusan dan Penguatkuasaan kawasan Rumah Ibadat Hindu (kuil) dan Tapak Perkuburan Hindu.

Menurut Sivanesan, Perak negeri pertama yang mengeluarkan pekeliling tersebut yang turut menyatakan walaupun kuil hendak dibina di atas tanah persendirian, ia tetap memerlukan kebenaran kerajaan.

"Kerajaan negeri tidak akan meluluskan apa-apa permohonan kuil baru sekurang-kurangnya dalam tempoh lima tahun akan datang.

“Sesiapa yang mahu membina juga boleh membeli tanah sendiri dan mendapatkan kelulusan pihak berkuasa tempatan (PBT), tetapi jika ia melibatkan tanah kerajaan, tindakan serta-merta akan diambil,” katanya selepas mempengerusikan Mesyuarat Jawatankuasa Hal Ehwal Agama Hindu Negeri di Bangunan Sri Perak pada Khamis.

“Sekiranya boleh dipindahkan, kita pindahkan.

“Kita tidak mahu mengambil tindakan untuk terus merobohkan kuil sedia ada kerana negara kita mempunyai kepelbagaian kaum dan toleransi adalah penting dalam menyelesaikan masalah sensitif melalui permuafakatan,” katanya lagi.

Sivanesan juga berkata Perak mempunyai sekitar 480 kuil yang berdaftar dan jumlah itu melebihi bilangan tokong dan gereja.

Jelasnya, kebanyakan kuil ini dibina pada masa dahulu dengan kebenaran daripada Jabatan Penguatkuasaan, bukan secara haram seperti yang sering disalah tafsirkan.
Sementara itu, Naib Presiden MIC, T Murugiah (gambar atas) menyelar kenyataan Sivanesan sebagai tidak sensitif malah bercanggah dengan Perkara 11 Perlembagaan Persekutuan yang menjamin kebebasan beragama kepada semua rakyat Malaysia.

“Mengapa sekatan ini hanya disasarkan kepada kuil Hindu? Adakah dasar ini turut terpakai kepada rumah ibadat agama lain seperti masjid, gereja atau tokong Cina?

“Apa yang akan berlaku kepada kuil Hindu yang telah wujud sejak beberapa dekad di atas tanah kerajaan? Adakah kerajaan negeri bercadang untuk merobohkannya?

“Adakah keputusan dasar ini dibuat melalui proses perundingan dan dialog dengan ketua-ketua masyarakat dan pertubuhan agama Hindu?

“Sikap tidak hormat dan diskriminasi terhadap agama Hindu seperti ini tidak boleh diterima, lebih-lebih lagi apabila ia datang daripada pemimpin kerajaan yang diamanahkan untuk melindungi semua rakyat tanpa mengira kaum atau kepercayaan,” tegasnya pada satu kenyataan hari ini.

Dia turut mendesak kerajaan Perak untuk mengeluarkan kenyataan rasmi bagi mengesahkan komitmen dalam melayan semua agama secara adil dan saksama, seperti yang dijamin oleh Perlembagaan Persekutuan.

Link: https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/745431
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kasi full capacity dulu la kuil kuil lain tu. dah full capacity cannot cater, then build la new one.
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 8 2025, 09:53 AM)
land cheap mah

and not all cina rich ok

stop stereotyping
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Qing Ming no need travel far far. Fist n 15 DAY can burn no sticks lor. Sure business, study n health all shun shun lor.
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abu pun takut

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Already caught and prosecuted under 3R act yet?  😉😉😉😉
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first day in meleisia ka?
ni org kito rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 8 2025, 06:49 AM)
Nowadays, churches has gone mainstream stream. They rent shop lots.
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meanwhile surau is a compulsory in every new condo development

u can build masjid anywhere but u cannot build temple or church near masjid

and these clown wear white cap to protest

celaka

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Fuyoooh, puak paling tertindas

Everything oso wan free, buy your own land lah
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tak boleh
pemalas always wait for tongkat

even mat salleh also know they are poor
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 8 2025, 09:41 AM)
if not simpan in ulu place then simpan in the city?

u got brain or not

this the problems with malays

dont understand minorities after 67 years, have too much suspicious mind
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why u point out the obvious
if not how to go with the quote "stupid ppl breed more"
kek

condom haram tau

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just demolish all illegal temples. this illegal temples create too much problem
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kuil haram jadah menggangu pembangunan negara dan negeri
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The giant ass churce beside bukit Jalil highway? That looks like a space ship?
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Beside the gold course? That belongs to Vincent Tan, built on his land.
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just demolish all illegal temples. this illegal temples create too much problem
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What problems did they create? Care to clarify?

I do not support encroachment of gov land but to say illegal temples create problems… I doubt that.

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Beside the gold course?  That belongs to Vincent Tan, built on his land.
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Oh bincent tan punya kah. Faham faham. Janji can sponsor James bond birthday party bash. No one will kacau wink wink
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Oh bincent tan punya kah. Faham faham. Janji can sponsor James bond birthday party bash. No one will kacau wink wink
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It was build from the gold course or driving range. They reduce the area of the driving range, if not mistaken. Used to be a huge driving range there. I used to practise on the range.

And I don’t know if it is a church. I thought it was a common invention centre for the Christians. I can be wrong though.

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Malaysian Hindus are very eager to build more temples, instead of actually practicing their religion properly by utilizing existing temples.
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Malaysian Hindus are very eager to build more temples, instead of actually practicing their religion properly by utilizing existing  temples.
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Unfortunately this is true.
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Beside the gold course?  That belongs to Vincent Tan, built on his land.
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The calvary convention centre?

That i didn't know. I assumed he was a life long Buddhist
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It was build from the gold course or driving range.  They reduce the area of the driving range, if not mistaken.  Used to be a huge driving range there.  I used to practise on the range.

And I don’t know if it is a church.  I thought it was a common invention centre for the Christians.  I can be wrong though.
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This one right. Got event time some structures can open one wor lots of lights very cantik. I passed by once at night got event.

The white color structure. The name is Calgary something.
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What problems did they create?  Care to clarify?

I do not support encroachment of gov land but to say illegal temples create problems… I doubt that.
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Bro, you still don’t see the problem?

So many cases already.

Seafield temple case

IOI gave money

Gave new land

Still don’t want to move

Take the money, take the land… but still want to stay there

In the end, riot happened, one firefighter died.

These illegal temples slow down development

Developers can’t build

Projects get stuck

All because some people refuse to follow law

Got other cases too

Like Sime Darby in Rasah

People squatting on company land

Sime Darby want to sell, they refuse to leave

Don’t want to buy, just want land for free 🤦‍♂️
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just demolish all illegal temples. this illegal temples create too much problem
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why not demolish all the illegal speaker install in condo / apartment?
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Bro, you still don’t see the problem?

So many cases already.

Seafield temple case

IOI gave money

Gave new land

Still don’t want to move

Take the money, take the land… but still want to stay there

In the end, riot happened, one firefighter died.

These illegal temples slow down development

Developers can’t build

Projects get stuck

All because some people refuse to follow law

Got other cases too

Like Sime Darby in Rasah

People squatting on company land

Sime Darby want to sell, they refuse to leave

Don’t want to buy, just want land for free 🤦‍♂️
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The calvary convention centre?

That i didn't know. I assumed he was a life long Buddhist
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I assume that was the ‘church’ that was referred to. I can be wrong though.
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why not demolish all the illegal speaker install in condo / apartment?
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just demolish la if you want
but all kuil haram must be demolished . sudah lah haram, haram jadah pula
kerja curi tanah sahaja tahu

now pahang govt do the right thing to demolish kuil haram jadah di gua charas
perak also ban new kuil haram jadah
hope all will follow

kuiil haram jadah mesti dibanteras
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kuilnophobia, but yeah, if its illegal, then it's illegal, no matter how you twist turn spin the thing
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QUOTE(PeopleOfPerlis @ Jun 8 2025, 10:49 AM)
Bro, you still don’t see the problem?

So many cases already.

Seafield temple case

IOI gave money

Gave new land

Still don’t want to move

Take the money, take the land… but still want to stay there

In the end, riot happened, one firefighter died.

These illegal temples slow down development

Developers can’t build

Projects get stuck

All because some people refuse to follow law

Got other cases too

Like Sime Darby in Rasah

People squatting on company land

Sime Darby want to sell, they refuse to leave

Don’t want to buy, just want land for free 🤦‍♂️
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Ok. Understand and do not disagree with you on this.
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why not demolish all the illegal speaker install in condo / apartment?
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Be carwthere. You are stepping on one of the 3Rs…
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Malaysian Hindus are very eager to build more temples, instead of actually practicing their religion properly by utilizing existing  temples.
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Too many versions of one God. 🤷‍♂ See how many versions of Goddess Parvathi Hindus got.
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Too many versions of one God. 🤷‍♂ See how many versions of Goddess Parvathi Hindus got.
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We have more than enough temples of all denominations. On top of that we also have prayer halls, ashram & home shrines. The problem is Hindu Sangam is practically useless when it comes to regulating & overseeing Hinduism.

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QUOTE(PeopleOfPerlis @ Jun 8 2025, 10:53 AM)
just demolish la if you want
but all kuil haram must be demolished . sudah lah haram, haram jadah pula
kerja curi  tanah sahaja tahu

now pahang govt do the right thing to demolish kuil haram jadah di gua charas
perak also ban new kuil haram jadah
hope all will follow

kuiil haram jadah mesti dibanteras
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lmao ni first day in meleisia rolleyes.gif
mau pura pura buat tak tau despite this guy is melei rolleyes.gif

type hypocrite at its best thumbsup.gif

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Be carwthere.  You are stepping on one of the 3Rs…
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yg illegal bro
kalau yg legal takde masalah thumbsup.gif
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We have more than enough temples of all denominations. On top of that we also have prayer halls, ashram & home shrines. The problem is Hindu Sangam is practically useless when it comes to regulating & overseeing Hinduism.
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They issued guidelines and even printed books but sadly nobody took those seriously.
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QUOTE(kimochi ii @ Jun 8 2025, 04:23 AM)
0:13

I thought rokok is harom? that one all abu also come out everywhere

you stay there and don’t come here to work please

perfect definition of village idiots
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pakai white cap tapi buat benda haram
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yg illegal bro
kalau yg legal takde masalah  thumbsup.gif
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<Menurutnya, kuil berkenaan dibina oleh komuniti pekerja ladang dengan kebenaran rasmi daripada pihak kolonial ketika itu, bagi menjaga kebajikan dan kesejahteraan rohani masyarakat.

“Kita tidak boleh mengklasifikasikan semua kuil ini sebagai ‘tidak sah’ atau ‘struktur haram’ hanya kerana tiada dokumen rasmi>


Stop bringing in pihak kolonial ketika itu. ‘Kebenaran Rasmi?’ Don’t pusing words here you ownself claimed to be. It was built part of estate workers housing at that point of employment use only

It should ceased with the plantation workers housing and all other amenities demolished once estate ownership changed hand or relocate the kuil to a private land if you care this much as claimed.

Catholic Church with many other English school premise ie convent school then and church land ownership was the only ‘rasmi’ with land deed by pihak kolonial

Bharat’s adverse possession law tak sah laku pakai in Msia. Period

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They issued guidelines and even printed books but sadly nobody took those seriously.
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Guidelines & books aren't enough. We actually need properly practicing Hindus running Hindu Sangam, or any religious body for that matter. Most leaders are Hindu in name only & do not understand the philosophical basis to be spiritual guides. If you are serious yourself, then people will start to take you & your teachings seriously.

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I pray at home, safer .. I dont give problem, I dont ask problem  yawn.gif
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5517944
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jun 8 2025, 07:58 AM)
regardless of whether it is toothless or not, whether anything will change after signing it

the refusal of signing is a reflection of 'they know what they are doing is wrong but they do it anyway'. now try to spin that
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I'm not going to spin anything. I rather Malaysia sign it. The reason it wasn't signed was due to pressure from dumno and puas.

But I stand on my opinion that icerd is toothless. Ever since thanos canceled on signing it so many in /k has this delusion that all the so called penindasan will go away. I've been telling them that they are so naive.
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 8 2025, 09:41 AM)
if not simpan in ulu place then simpan in the city?

u got brain or not

this the problems with malays

dont understand minorities after 67 years, have too much suspicious mind
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In KL got nirvana building next to highway.
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well meleisia got 67% problem thumbsup.gif
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