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achong09
post Jun 9 2025, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 8 2025, 12:00 PM)
this achong09 memang suka buat cerita tipu

mod please move this unserious thread to normal kopitiam section thank you
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Why you simply accuse me tipu? You also tipu what? Why not ban you instead of me?😢
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post Jun 9 2025, 08:54 AM

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it sounds like you have a lot of useful skill that you are not keen to explore?
Process improvement, optimization, cost cutting, negotiation, with that accounting/ audit background you can go to international MNC and tapau lot of people.
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post Jun 9 2025, 09:46 AM

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Last 30s very difficult to find new co unless got cable or specialized skills. After 40 noone wants anymore.

But sound like your job not bad. Can coast, get paid to shake leg and tokkok with others. Like this just coast until retire or laid off and take severance.
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post Jun 9 2025, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Jun 8 2025, 12:53 PM)
Because to a lot of people accounting is just being a book keeper. Just like doctor but we know a gp earns way less than say a neurosurgeon.
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Your post validates my suspicion.

What I find strange is this: professionals, who are subject to strict CPD requirements annually and over a three-year cycle, are constantly updating their knowledge. With this continuous learning, they should be able to remain independent, adaptable, and not overly reliant on whatever exposure their current organization offers.

So when we hear complaints about limited roles within their organization, it raises the question — is the issue really with the organization, or with the individual?

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post Jun 9 2025, 11:37 AM

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Aiya...sudah ada kerja pun bising ka...thousands people no work out there la... grateful lor...do side business abit la.
OrganicRepublic
post Jun 9 2025, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Palisades @ Jun 7 2025, 08:08 AM)
I also want to add:
Other people in operational just look to tomorrow don't have to worry about yesterday.
Accountants? we have to worry about things 10 years ago. Why? Because suddenly internal audit or external audit will ask you things.
Have to clear in suspense account: legacy left by your predecessors to clear shit.
Sigh, again don't join accountancy, you have to clean shit years ago. And if IT don't design Oracle or SaP properly more shit will come out.
Worse of all, internal audit everyday press why this why that, then finance have to be the police other departments show black face at you.
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Start your own accounting and secretarial service if you’ve capital, it’s a high margin business low capital business.

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post Jun 9 2025, 05:56 PM

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Not too early for anythg
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post Jun 10 2025, 12:13 AM

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i think TS situation resonates with most salarymen out there for their age (late 40s)

in China they have the so called expiry after 35, Msia doesn't have that early but you can see it happens after mid 40s as well

somemore govt want to raise retirement age, so fucking funny


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post Jun 10 2025, 12:47 PM

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I was in the same predicament where doing routine job although I also touched legal and audit department but the job satisfaction is not great. I realised in my 30's and switch to tech
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post Jun 10 2025, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 8 2025, 11:55 AM)
THIS.

with so many companies out there "downsizing", you gotta count your blessings son

there are many out there who are eager to replace you with fraction of salary that u get now

from getting fixed salary to chasing sales, seriously being a salesman is not for everyone
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count my blessing. I don't think so.

As I said if you do read, previous postings there is some truths, because I am in this dead end job, until I was transferred to a reporting role about 1 year ago.

I encountered issues with the staffs but managed to make peace with them.

Now I have new issue, co is downsizing, and I may be next on the block.


Except for the last year of my tenure, whereby I was moved to reporting. The past 6-7 years I was doing just target setting, telling sales they are not meeting target

QUOTE(poooky @ Jun 9 2025, 09:46 AM)
Last 30s very difficult to find new co unless got cable or specialized skills. After 40 noone wants anymore.

But sound like your job not bad. Can coast, get paid to shake leg and tokkok with others. Like this just coast until retire or laid off and take severance.
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Get hated by other department for cutting their cost and pushing their targets.

Also my boss gets the promotion when we achieve target, I just get a mere bonus.

I am villified by the big bosses because I aggressively cut their budget.


QUOTE(afoka @ Jun 9 2025, 11:37 AM)
Aiya...sudah ada kerja pun bising ka...thousands people no work out there la... grateful lor...do side business abit la.
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QUOTE(OrganicRepublic @ Jun 9 2025, 01:07 PM)
Start your own accounting and secretarial service if you’ve capital, it’s a high margin business low capital business.
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That one not easy man. Esp when you are not big four firm.

QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 10 2025, 12:13 AM)
i think TS situation resonates with most salarymen out there for their age (late 40s)

in China they have the so called expiry after 35, Msia doesn't have that early but you can see it happens after mid 40s as well

somemore govt want to raise retirement age, so fucking funny
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More suitable for engineers.

I know a few engineers that specilized, co keep them till 65yo.

For eg, I know a british engineer who used to work in my ex co, he has special skills to set up new plant and produciton line, that's why they kept him till 65

Accountants can be found by the thousands.

Recently I attended one accounting annual convention in Msia. THere were like 3000 of us members.

And not all attended mind you.

Accountants are many and easily repleaceble.

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post Jun 11 2025, 01:30 PM

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That one not easy man. Esp when you are not big four firm.

I’m sorry but I don’t think anyone can help you cause you’ve got no fire in you.

1400+ registered audit firms in Malaysia and you say it’s not easy cause you’re not big four.

I guess the bosses of these companies are at the roadside begging for money.


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post Jun 11 2025, 04:05 PM

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Got both accounting academic and operation experience yet thought it is not an edge?


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post Jun 11 2025, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Palisades @ Jun 8 2025, 07:09 AM)
I have a question for you. DId you go straight to Marketing right after you graduated in accountancy?
Are you a double degree holder? IT/Accountancy?
Are you currently single or have family commitments?
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1. No, after graduation I started with training, then gradually transitioned into digital marketing, followed by website development. From there, I moved into CRM systems, and now I’m working with cloud engineering systems. I reckon my next would be AI & System development (Analytics) as there's huge potential in this field.

But you should be able to see all the fields I move to are not related and need to relearn from scratch if want to be competent.

2. Just accountancy and don't even have finance. I know most people ended with Accounting and Finance.
3. Married.
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post Jun 12 2025, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 11 2025, 05:08 PM)
1. No, after graduation I started with training, then gradually transitioned into digital marketing, followed by website development. From there, I moved into CRM systems, and now I’m working with cloud engineering systems. I reckon my next would be AI & System development (Analytics) as there's huge potential in this field.

But you should be able to see all the fields I move to are not related and need to relearn from scratch if want to be competent.

2. Just accountancy and don't even have finance. I know most people ended with Accounting and Finance.
3. Married.
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You started after graduation, glad you've found the right choice.

Do you have kids?

I am finding hard to re-skill into another field due to the task of raising a family.

I am trying my best, but I think I am more focused on reskilling in my own field.
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post Jun 12 2025, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(OrganicRepublic @ Jun 11 2025, 01:30 PM)
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That one not easy man. Esp when you are not big four firm.

I’m sorry but I don’t think anyone can help you cause you’ve got no fire in you.

1400+ registered audit firms in Malaysia and you say it’s not easy cause you’re not big four.

I guess the bosses of these companies are at the roadside begging for money.
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Audit firms are looking for young people below 30yo.

anyways, the income bracket for audit firm is a bit too low for me.

The only thing I can aim for is an Audit Manager...but as I said, I doing this operational role made me rusty in accounting standards.

I tried to read up after work, and attended training. But to no avail, without the practice, I am still rusty. Trainings are expensive, when I attend courses, it cost me like RM 500 to 2,000. My co doesn't subsidise nor allow the HRDF to be use for this.

I do admit I failed in the reskilling part, I tried to study but having to balance time to raise my kids, I am finding it rather tough to find free time to read up. I still managed to do it though but not at the level I wanted.
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post Jun 13 2025, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Palisades @ Jun 12 2025, 08:58 PM)
Audit firms are looking for young people  below 30yo.

anyways, the income bracket for audit firm is a bit too low for me.

The only thing I can aim for is an Audit Manager...but as I said, I doing this operational role made me rusty in accounting standards.

I tried to read up after work, and attended training. But to no avail, without the practice, I am still rusty. Trainings are expensive, when I attend courses, it cost me like RM 500 to 2,000. My co doesn't subsidise nor allow the HRDF to be use for this.

I do admit I failed in the reskilling part, I tried to study but having to balance time to raise my kids, I am finding it rather tough to find free time to read up. I still managed to do it though but not at the level I wanted.
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I'll summarise your reply...you've no motivation.
Improve your motivation first then you'll be able to see things clearly, do not make hasty decisions when you're in a bad shape.
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QUOTE(FatButterfly88 @ Jun 13 2025, 02:42 PM)
I'll summarise your reply...you've no motivation.
Improve  your motivation first then you'll be able to see things clearly, do not make hasty decisions when you're in a bad shape.
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I am virtually stuck, can't do anything.

Career frozen...

At 50yo no career prospects

Now I have to work to survival, hope can survive another 10 years.

If piss off boss, I am goner.


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post Jun 22 2025, 08:01 AM

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post Jun 26 2025, 12:49 AM

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Perhaps take a pause, go travel and come back if financial allow? Otherwise, start build your passion! Things you love to do....

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