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PJ T20 Karens, You re the reason why PAS getting strong
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SUSdattebayo
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Jun 5 2025, 06:49 PM, updated 7 months ago
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QUOTE “Why Does PAS Gain More Support When There Are More Karens in PJ?” #Two Malaysias: A Class Rebellion
In recent years, PAS has been gaining more support among Malay voters, leaving many urban middle-class Malaysians—especially liberal Chinese—feeling confused and uneasy. They often analyze politics using terms like “secularism” and “modernization,” but can’t seem to grasp why so many Malays are voting for what appears to be a religiously conservative party. If we set aside these elite perspectives and instead look at things through the lens of class, culture, and language, we might realize that PAS’s rise isn’t just about a religious resurgence. It’s actually a response from the Malay working class to the cultural arrogance and economic exclusion of the liberal elites.
Take the “Karen culture” as an example—it’s particularly pronounced in Malaysia, and PJ (Petaling Jaya) is a classic case. Urban middle-class folks there often scrutinize and criticize the lifestyle of the Malay masses from a high horse, labeling them as too conservative or traditional. But they fail to realize just how crushing the pressure of living at the bottom really is. The buzzwords of inclusivity, diversity, and modernization sound cool, but in reality, the lifestyles and discourse of these liberals are worlds apart from the struggles of the ordinary rakyat. It’s what people call #DrinkingWineAndCriticizingTheGovernment. This “I know what’s best for you” attitude only widens the class divide, making many Malays feel looked down upon and excluded. This resentment, in turn, fuels PAS’s growth.
Why does PAS benefit from more Karens in PJ? The answer lies in how class divides create cultural and linguistic gaps. Liberals often talk about LGBTQ rights, environmental protection, and institutional reform—topics that align with middle-class concerns over security and identity. But for the working-class Malays, their worries are about rising rice prices, expensive petrol, and their children’s education. These survival issues directly shape their voting behavior. PAS has tapped into this reality, positioning itself as a “protector” of the working class, representing their economic interests while offering cultural affirmation. To many Malays, the liberal rhetoric isn’t about understanding them—it’s about criticizing and excluding them.
So, PAS’s rise isn’t just about religious conservatism making a comeback; it’s a manifestation of class politics. It reflects how economic and cultural pressures are driving the Malay working class to push back against the urban liberals and elites. PAS has given them a sense of belonging and become a political vehicle for class resistance, challenging the cultural dominance and discourse power of the liberal elites.
To address this deep class divide, liberals must confront their own class biases. They need to ditch the condescending attitude, genuinely let go of their superiority complex, and start engaging in ways the working class can relate to—using Bahasa Malaysia and perspectives that resonate with them. Only when class struggles are acknowledged and language becomes a bridge between different strata can Malaysia truly move toward inclusivity and unity. https://www.threads.com/@youwingthehoongnum...ost/DKe-8lvTw7F? bincangkan,
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knwong
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Jun 5 2025, 06:51 PM
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Good advise. Just be humble. No need to always condemn the others
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nazq
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Jun 5 2025, 06:54 PM
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but did PAS protects the working class?
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WongTheThief
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Jun 5 2025, 06:56 PM
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Getting Started

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Anything coming from sohai FB/Threads = tengok boleh, percaya jangan
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SUSfuzzy
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Jun 5 2025, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE Only when class struggles are acknowledged and language becomes a bridge between different strata can Malaysia truly move toward inclusivity and unity. Talks about class struggle, proceeds to say Malay are poor therefore they vote PAS. Other race are not poor?
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Starbucki
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Jun 5 2025, 06:58 PM
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Tulis dlm base penjajah kite mane phm??
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GHBZDK
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Jun 5 2025, 06:59 PM
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nawwww, pas benefits from madani uselessness... when people cant survive first thing is to fall back to their faith.
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empyreal
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Jun 5 2025, 07:05 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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Malaysians are so used to the ethnic divide that they don't know about the class divide.
What they call 'Karen culture' is the same bourgeois principles that stretch back to the 19th century. Class-conscious middle class households that believe in self-improvement (sometimes forgetting that many of the poor can't uplift themselves without assistance), that call for MPs to listen to their interests because they pay taxes, with a focus on education and professional jobs.
Malaysians (and more specifically malays) are becoming more aware of thus because more malays are becoming legitimately middle class (whether they're t20 or m40 etc). And in a way it's a good thing - I don't think you can have a proper democracy until ethnic politics shift to more conventional class politics.
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MR_alien
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Jun 5 2025, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(nazq @ Jun 5 2025, 06:54 PM) but did PAS protects the working class? look at PAS states today so many business and job opportunity is gone
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killdavid
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Jun 5 2025, 07:30 PM
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The most self destructive trend are the male Darens that are angry at PMX policies and will rather give the country to PAS to vent out their unhappiness due to unrealistic expectations
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JoeK
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Jun 5 2025, 07:36 PM
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Like Rapiji lor.. that formula man go everywhere sure will kutuk hina people macam2
Mana people Tahan his elitist T1 kutuk2 people
This post has been edited by JoeK: Jun 5 2025, 07:36 PM
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Azran1979
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Jun 5 2025, 07:36 PM
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karl marx already concluded this in the early 20th century :
all the struggles of the people are the struggles of class. anything else is just illusion.
now you understand why government banned communism.
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jojolicia
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Jun 5 2025, 07:40 PM
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It all started from 98 Atuk /AI camp. Prior to this it has been umno over pas. Pas has got no place in main stream politic prior 98. It was all along only in kelantan not even KT, kedah, perlis.
It was post atuk/AI that both camps made pas the king maker for melayu votes. Umno and ‘birth-ed’ Pkr collectively made pas main stream relevant.
Tak payah nak blame PJ Karen T20
This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 5 2025, 08:13 PM
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lopo90
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Jun 5 2025, 07:40 PM
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Wow nice. PJ becoming T20 area liao
Hooray!
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SUSdattebayo
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Jun 5 2025, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 5 2025, 07:40 PM) It all started from 98 Atuk /AI camp. Prior to this it has been umno over pas. Pas has got no place in main stream politic prior 98. It was all along only in kelantan not even KT, kedah, perlis. It was post atuk/AI that both camps made pas the king makers for melayu votes. Made relevant. Tak payah nak blame PJ Karen T20 well, it was the PJ and Bangsar Karens Darrens that discarded Najib BN in 2018 which ultimately opened up the floodgate for religious conservatism ideologies to become mainstream among right wing conservative Malay factions, pick one - UMNO - PAS - BERSATU which ironically, DAP had slept with all three of them and ironically, UMNO returned to form critical component of the current govt
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Phoenix_KL
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Jun 5 2025, 07:58 PM
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semua salah pj and karen lol
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jojolicia
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Jun 5 2025, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 5 2025, 07:54 PM) well, it was the PJ and Bangsar Karens Darrens that discarded Najib BN in 2018 which ultimately opened up the floodgate for religious conservatism ideologies to become mainstream among right wing conservative Malay factions, pick one - UMNO - PAS - BERSATU which ironically, DAP had slept with all three of them and ironically, UMNO returned to form critical component of the current govt Lol.. that’s what you see today. I pointed out the underlying. This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 5 2025, 08:16 PM
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zairee2580
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Jun 5 2025, 11:25 PM
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I'd support who ever brings back plastic straw
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Hobbez
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Jun 5 2025, 11:29 PM
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I doubt PAS is getting stronger.
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Guenhwyvar
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Jun 6 2025, 09:34 AM
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Lol as if PAS can even help them, when they can't even help those who have voted for them back in their home state.
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MegaCanonF
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Jun 6 2025, 09:36 AM
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u think malay don't care about environment?
pretty simplistic and generalistic views
given like a true sohai
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SUSKaya Butter Toast
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Jun 6 2025, 09:37 AM
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Lanciao la.
So now it's sarahan cina, that's why it's okay to be racist?
Amazing tban logic
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Virlution
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Jun 6 2025, 09:40 AM
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ensure you are T10 and can can live comfortably or kaluar kalau tak suka
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SUSM4A1
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Jun 6 2025, 09:42 AM
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kek
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Blofeld
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Jun 6 2025, 09:44 AM
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It's clearly a religious divide, not class divide.
There are also the lower-income group from other races la where environmental issues, LGBT issues, etc are the least of their concern as well....
But are these non-muslims from the lower income group supporting PAS?
So, this guy is analysing from the wrong angle
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SUSSihambodoh
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Jun 6 2025, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 5 2025, 06:51 PM) Good advise. Just be humble. No need to always condemn the others /k T20: We are the brightest and the smartest in the country. Why should we be humble to all the M40 and B40 poor bastards? Poor is their choice. Work harder. Don't always ask for tongkat. See like us, work hard and then can put downpayment for BMW. B40 should lespek me. Not the other way.
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-PuPu^ZaPruD3r-
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Jun 6 2025, 09:55 AM
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I stay in PJ and work in Bangsar... LOL this article is stupid
Are u assuming everyone in PJ is T20 ? It's just that PJ ppl are educated more.. We dislike all those R&R and want a peaceful life.. Doing business, buying 4D and drinking alcohol etc
Next, blame the Bangsar bubble ?
How many ppl in PJ can affect the voters ? PJ is just 2 Parliament seats.. There are 222 seats in Malaysia
Sohai article
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SUSNajibaik
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Jun 6 2025, 10:01 AM
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so summary some puak poor becuz of pemalas then rasa dikecam when facing karen
sebab service industry many of their puak
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kolamazu
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Jun 6 2025, 10:06 AM
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New Member
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This will never end, sometimes I think is good: Pass the helm to PAS, knowing their records in managing the 4-5 states, see how they manage the country. Once for all, shut everyone up, good or bad. Take the bullet and press-on.
else asyik buat kacau to progress, no one like to move backwards (except...)
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netflix2019
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Jun 6 2025, 10:10 AM
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true T20 diam diam follow the wind direction and cruise along reaping all the benefits whenever available.
Those B40/M40 still busy there trying to change the wind direction. Changing the human nature. waste time only. End up poor, continue the vicious cycle where poor>bad attitude > more poor > hate others > fight > stay poor.
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jojolicia
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Jun 6 2025, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(kolamazu @ Jun 6 2025, 10:06 AM) This will never end, sometimes I think is good: Pass the helm to PAS, knowing their records in managing the 4-5 states, see how they manage the country. Once for all, shut everyone up, good or bad. Take the bullet and press-on. else asyik buat kacau to progress, no one like to move backwards (except...) Bolded. You gotta be kidding right. There will be no turning back
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ticke
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Jun 6 2025, 10:39 AM
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always blame type C. lol. never learns
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SUSdattebayo
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Jun 6 2025, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jun 6 2025, 09:44 AM) It's clearly a religious divide, not class divide. There are also the lower-income group from other races la where environmental issues, LGBT issues, etc are the least of their concern as well.... But are these non-muslims from the lower income group supporting PAS? So, this guy is analysing from the wrong angle i beg to differ this time true that they are B40s nons, but their perspective is different than the poor muslim malays B40 nons view that they need the country to be more competitive thus their income will be higher along the way, hence they too voted for PH, that's a pragmatic and realistic approach meanwhile B40 orens, is stark different, they will blame its the nons that robbed them off the wealth, the nons which have no regards nor fear for god that could do every sinful things to get rich, etc etc and mind you, the % and number of B40 malays is magnitude higher than B40 nons
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sunami
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Jun 6 2025, 03:46 PM
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Can I wear shorts in Kelateh?
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ze2
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Jun 6 2025, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jun 6 2025, 09:55 AM) I stay in PJ and work in Bangsar... LOL this article is stupid Are u assuming everyone in PJ is T20 ? It's just that PJ ppl are educated more.. We dislike all those R&R and want a peaceful life.. Doing business, buying 4D and drinking alcohol etc Next, blame the Bangsar bubble ? How many ppl in PJ can affect the voters ? PJ is just 2 Parliament seats.. There are 222 seats in Malaysia Sohai article Well said 👏
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9m2w
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Jun 6 2025, 03:48 PM
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Bangsar bubble i believe la
PJ got bubble meh. Ah sum and ah soh there really mind about inclusivity etc ka?
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dudester
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Jun 6 2025, 03:49 PM
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so now the buzz word is Type K...
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dudester
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Jun 6 2025, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jun 6 2025, 09:55 AM) I stay in PJ and work in Bangsar... LOL this article is stupid Are u assuming everyone in PJ is T20 ? It's just that PJ ppl are educated more.. We dislike all those R&R and want a peaceful life.. Doing business, buying 4D and drinking alcohol etc Next, blame the Bangsar bubble ? How many ppl in PJ can affect the voters ? PJ is just 2 Parliament seats.. There are 222 seats in Malaysia Sohai article agree article is bodoh. plucking assumption from the sky.
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9m2w
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Jun 6 2025, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jun 6 2025, 09:55 AM) I stay in PJ and work in Bangsar... LOL this article is stupid Are u assuming everyone in PJ is T20 ? It's just that PJ ppl are educated more.. We dislike all those R&R and want a peaceful life.. Doing business, buying 4D and drinking alcohol etc Next, blame the Bangsar bubble ? How many ppl in PJ can affect the voters ? PJ is just 2 Parliament seats.. There are 222 seats in Malaysia Sohai article PLot twist Article written by an ahboy who never touch grass in his own bubble in Taman Tun kek
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Chrix
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Jun 6 2025, 04:01 PM
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what a stupid take.
clearly a piece written to get views
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cursetheroad01
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Jun 6 2025, 04:50 PM
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Implying middle class aren't working class too. Whoever wrote this shit seems to have their head far up their ass.
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Hollow21
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Jun 6 2025, 04:56 PM
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Puas no use agama meh to their benefit
Look at all the fake news
Topkek
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dawnreaver
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Jun 6 2025, 05:02 PM
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I always tell DAP haters to vote for PAS. That'll show DAP to not take Chinese votes for granted!
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hoonanoo
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Jun 6 2025, 05:13 PM
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Why does PAS benefit from more Karens in PJ? The answer lies in how class divides create cultural and linguistic gaps. Liberals often talk about LGBTQ rights, environmental protection, and institutional reform—topics that align with middle-class concerns over security and identity. But for the working-class Malays, their worries are about rising rice prices, expensive petrol, and their children’s education. These survival issues directly shape their voting behavior. PAS has tapped into this reality, positioning itself as a “protector” of the working class, representing their economic interests while offering cultural affirmation. To many Malays, the liberal rhetoric isn’t about understanding them—it’s about criticizing and excluding them.WTF ? Don't make me laugh. Puas is a joke. They can't tap shit even if their live depends on it. THey are so full of BS. All day they tap on irrelevant issues like everyday complain DAP (like DAP owns a space in their brains), everyday complain pig farms, everyday complain vernacular, everyday complain beer, everyday complain concert, everydya complain hedonistic life. protector of what? bs ? Issue of rising prices? any solution or suggestion from these lebais? Naada. Issue of development any solution or suggestion? Naada. Everything these morons touch turn into disaster. Kedah - wakanda minerals fail. Kelantan - clean water fail, 300m spend on 30 tube wells fail, furniture world - fail. Trengganu - tourism fail. What's next? Wagyu beef project, is this the best they can come up with?
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