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post Jun 5 2025, 06:07 PM, updated 7 months ago

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When the situation worsens, the true impacts start to show already.


https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/a...export-controls

EU pushes China to address ‘alarming’ rare earth export controls


The EU has urged China to stop restricting the export of rare earth minerals and magnets, with the bloc’s trade chief saying its industries are in an “alarming situation”.

The request was made during a meeting between the sides’ top commerce officials in Paris on Tuesday. It comes as sectors across Europe raise the alarm about a shortage of rare earths, which are used to manufacture hi-tech goods ranging from electric cars and smartphones to military tanks and aircraft.

“I informed my Chinese counterpart about the alarming situation in the European car industry, but I would say industry as such because clearly rare earths and permanent magnets are absolutely essential for industrial production,” Maros Sefcovic said on Wednesday, briefing reporters a day after his meeting with Chinese Commerce Minister Wang Wentao.


Around 90 per cent of the world’s supply of rare earth minerals comes from China, which introduced export controls on their shipments in April in retaliation to US President Donald Trump’s “reciprocal” tariffs.

Rare earths consist of 17 elements. On April 4, Beijing added seven of these – dysprosium, gadolinium, lutetium, samarium, scandium, terbium and yttrium – to its export control list, plus several rare earth magnets, two days after Trump announced “reciprocal tariffs”, meaning licenses are now required for their export.

While such restrictions were ostensibly intended to punish the US, firms around the world have been caught in the crossfire. Business chambers and industry groups have urged European governments to push for a solution, as mineral stocks run low and some areas of production grind to a halt.

European companies have complained that China’s commerce ministry seemed incapable of handling the voluminous requests, with licenses being issued slowly and on a piecemeal basis.

“Some applicants are asked for sensitive information that might compromise their intellectual property so they’re reluctant to hand that over, but they need to if they want to get approval,” Adam Dunnett, secretary general at the EU Chamber of Commerce in China, said.

The chamber has held “emergency meetings” with Chinese authorities in recent days after an outpouring of anxiety from across European industry.

“I haven’t seen anything of this magnitude for a long time,” Dunnett said of the level of concern among EU businesses.

Sefcovic said that the two sides had compared figures on the number of applications versus the licenses issued.

The figures did not match, Sefcovic said, adding that the EU would supply Beijing with “all the data and would cover all the companies which are now in an extremely difficult situation”.

Sefcovic suggested that Beijing could simplify its system, which now screens all requests for “dual use” applications, meaning the rare earths could go towards military production.

“Some of the car companies are already announcing that if this issue is not addressed, there might be huge production difficulties in a short period of time,” Sefcovic said.

“His information was a little bit different, and therefore we agreed that he would clarify this as soon as possible, and that we would also address the propositions I made yesterday, and this was that our strong preference here,” he added.

The EU’s proposals include “not to cover … civilian production by this very complex system”, Sefcovic said.

The bloc would also like to see a “general application … to cover it once a year for the whole production”, eliminating the need for cumbersome repeat applications.

Sefcovic said the EU wanted the changes to avoid “huge paperwork delays and stress, which this presents for our industry and for our companies.

“We agree that we will come back to this issue relatively soon.”

Also on Wednesday, the EU named 13 projects it would initiate beyond its borders to help improve its self-sufficiency in rare earths and critical minerals.

“The export bans reinforce our will to diversify and perhaps even strengthen the relevance of our focus on reducing dependencies,” Stephane Sejourne, the European Commission’s head of industrial strategy, said in announcing the projects in Brussels.

Two projects will cover rare earth minerals in Malawi and South Africa, while others focus on various raw materials in Britain, Canada, Greenland, Kazakhstan, Madagascar, Norway, Serbia, Ukraine, Zambia, Brazil and New Caledonia, a French overseas territory.

The rare earth crisis adds another complication to already tense EU-China trade ties.
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post Jun 5 2025, 06:15 PM

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post Jun 5 2025, 06:16 PM

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Tahu pun what it feels like to be sanctioned. Totally deserved for participating in trying to pull other people's economy down.

Get your own rare earth, like how China is forced to make their own chips icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 5 2025, 06:16 PM

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Lelelel China should just keep it for ownself develop.
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post Jun 5 2025, 06:17 PM

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post Jun 5 2025, 06:33 PM

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But EU still imposed restrictions on exporting ASML's most advanced EUV machines to China.
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post Jun 5 2025, 06:40 PM

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> China restrict rare earth export - EU car manufacturers die.

> EU restrict import of China EVs - Da Ge pretend mo man tai.

> EU don't restrict import of China EVs - EU car manufacturers die.

Go back to making ICE je la, or is this Da Ge's way of helping Puting restrict Ukrainian drones?


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post Jun 5 2025, 06:49 PM

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Think it from the bright side

Less EV production means will bring up car selling price!

Provided China car companies play fair game

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post Jun 5 2025, 06:49 PM

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post Jun 5 2025, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Lancer07 @ Jun 5 2025, 06:33 PM)
But EU still imposed restrictions on exporting ASML's most advanced EUV machines to China.
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Typical western bully behavior.

I can do but you cannot.

If I do it, it is for the good of the world.
You do it you are evil and in axis of evil.

The funny part is there are morons thinking this is acceptable. Can just read their comments.

Malaysia's palm oil still bad rite?

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post Jun 5 2025, 06:51 PM

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Let them shutdown je lah
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post Jun 5 2025, 06:52 PM

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they so happy sanction russia and china, but kena this, which is not even a sanction but just export restriction, terus triggered

hypocrite o hypocrite
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Restrict sales of EUV and AI chip is OK, restrict sales of rare earth is not OK.....typical colonial bastardrace!

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post Jun 5 2025, 07:02 PM

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post Jun 5 2025, 07:02 PM

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before cakap ' de-risk'

sekarang cakap China is restricting its own exports
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post Jun 5 2025, 07:06 PM

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put conditions to the sale, i tariff you 25%... but if it goes to US, i 200% tariff!... sounds familiar?
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post Jun 5 2025, 11:24 PM

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all their greenpeace ppl sleeping on lantai in protest, tak mau ron95, tak mau rare earth production at home

semua malas nak keje, while preaching their country is so called green, then export all their junk to SEA to keep their place clean

fucking Europeans
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post Jun 5 2025, 11:25 PM

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shift EU factories to china, then can have all the minerals you need laugh.gif
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post Jun 5 2025, 11:40 PM

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not very big shot can bully anyone but why now shouting like a mad dog lol
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post Jun 6 2025, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 5 2025, 06:50 PM)
Typical western bully behavior.

I can do but you cannot.

If I do it, it is for the good of the world.
You do it you are evil and in axis of evil.

The funny part is there are morons thinking this is acceptable. Can just read their comments.

Malaysia's palm oil still bad rite?
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Now China come into Malaysia put Malaysians out of business

I see China is just at bad
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post Jun 6 2025, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Efalex @ Jun 5 2025, 06:56 PM)
Restrict sales of EUV and AI chip is OK, restrict sales of rare earth is not OK.....typical colonial bastardrace!
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salahan Chyna la tu. omputih kan putih, suci dan murni?
Wedchar2912
post Jun 6 2025, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jun 6 2025, 12:44 AM)
Now China come into Malaysia put Malaysians out of business

I see China is just at bad
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Didnt realize China also tariff and sanction us like EU and USA.
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jun 6 2025, 12:44 AM)
Now China come into Malaysia put Malaysians out of business

I see China is just at bad
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Jangan tipu ok

Bang Nuar say china here to help us and invest

They giving us job and opportunities

If your business tak laku sebab china datang maybe your business need to go, expert /k cakap punya

And they say business that cannot survive should lingkup now
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post Jun 6 2025, 01:26 AM

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EU funny, already kena from Russia cut off gas supply when EU have no backup still want to pull the same shit on China with no plan B in place. They never learn?
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post Jun 6 2025, 04:32 AM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jun 5 2025, 11:44 PM)
Now China come into Malaysia put Malaysians out of business

I see China is just at bad
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aiyoh.. the f home ground advantage and still cannot make it... you blame competitor?..
now is not the time to whine, AI is changing how the world works...judgement day has come
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post Jun 6 2025, 05:58 AM

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USA too desperate to crash China to harvest them but big bro showed them who's the boss
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jun 6 2025, 12:44 AM)
Now China come into Malaysia put Malaysians out of business

I see China is just at bad
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Malaysian is just lacking technical anyway, slave to the west. Simple LRT train also need buy elsewhere. I rather buy cheap China stuffs than inflated western brands.
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Sorry... double posted...

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post Jun 6 2025, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jun 5 2025, 06:50 PM)
Typical western bully behavior.

I can do but you cannot.

If I do it, it is for the good of the world.
You do it you are evil and in axis of evil.

The funny part is there are morons thinking this is acceptable. Can just read their comments.

Malaysia's palm oil still bad rite?
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Is like amoi/awek can do no wrong, /ktards confirm is the problem. This is normal. Obviously somebody's gonna get farked, this is also normal.

This post has been edited by Penamer: Jun 6 2025, 08:20 AM

 

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