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ev cars not for human use one always kaboom while parking. ice car only kaboom if too fast too furious. moral of the story ice ice baby
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Maritime insurance probably more expensive for EV delivery…
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post Jun 5 2025, 12:19 PM

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Obviously, we need a 600 foot long car carrier fire blanket..
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So scarry. I'm not buying EV anytime soon
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Apa brand?

Oh all EV also catch fire

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https://www.kbtx.com/2025/06/05/22-crews-me...sands-vehicles/
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The crew immediately initiated emergency firefighting procedures using the vessel’s onboard fire suppression systems. However, despite their efforts, the situation could not be brought under control,” the Zodiac Maritime statement read.

According to the video, ICE cars are shipped with nearly empty fuel tanks. Can't do that with EVs.
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only 800 are EV on board. which brand?
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QUOTE(balambgarden @ Jun 5 2025, 01:41 PM)



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Fire risk of EV is increasing. owaiii.

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post Jun 5 2025, 12:25 PM

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sooner or later all cargo shipping have no choice to carry ev
just need to think solution, like special ejectable platform for ev vehicle
one ev on fire? eject!!

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post Jun 5 2025, 12:36 PM

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Don't have to be jealous because we also have..

https://www.chinapress.com.my/20250605/%e8%...ba%86%ef%bc%81/
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Malaysia should have a statistic of EV fire rate database laugh.gif
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 5 2025, 12:23 PM)
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/06/05/22-crews-me...sands-vehicles/

According to the video, ICE cars are shipped with nearly empty fuel tanks. Can't do that with EVs.
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From the link...
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It’s also believed to be carrying over 3,000 vehicles, including 70 electric and 681 partial hybrid vehicles.


EV fans: Confirmed fire started from hybrids! EV are very safe.
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post Jun 5 2025, 12:48 PM

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Looks similar to the beiyandiu ferry
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wana claim insurance :X
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I heard they will continue to combust for very long time under water due to thermal runway
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 5 2025, 12:23 PM)
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/06/05/22-crews-me...sands-vehicles/

According to the video, ICE cars are shipped with nearly empty fuel tanks. Can't do that with EVs.
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that why P2 ship the EV without battery....
see so P2 already know how to solve EV from fire....
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jun 5 2025, 12:29 PM)
sooner or later all cargo shipping have no choice to carry ev
just need to think solution, like special ejectable platform for ev vehicle
one ev on fire? eject!!

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If there is a frequent fire, the shipping line will reject it. Insuarnce will be sky high or won't be accepted.

Unless the EV manufacturing improves the safety.

This bloody manufacturing is killing the EV tech.


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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 5 2025, 12:53 PM)
If there is a frequent fire, the shipping line will reject it. Insuarnce will be sky high or won't be accepted.

Unless the EV manufacturing improves the safety.

This bloody manufacturing is killing the EV tech.
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No worries, if other lines refuse to EV, we at BYD have already build our own carrier to prove to the world how safe shipping EV truly is.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 5 2025, 12:46 PM)
From the link...
EV fans: Confirmed fire started from hybrids! EV are very safe.
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EV fans : ICE cars have more fire than EV.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 5 2025, 12:57 PM)
No worries, if other lines refuse to EV, we at BYD have already build our own carrier to prove to the world how safe shipping EV truly is.
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Always no news car manufacturing. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Jun 5 2025, 12:36 PM)
Don't have to be jealous because we also have..

https://www.chinapress.com.my/20250605/%e8%...ba%86%ef%bc%81/
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one truck lose 5 cars vs one ship sink lose 10000 cars. totally different magnitude.

QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 5 2025, 12:53 PM)
If there is a frequent fire, the shipping line will reject it. Insuarnce will be sky high or won't be accepted.

Unless the EV manufacturing improves the safety.

This bloody manufacturing is killing the EV tech.
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maybe thats why byd have to have its own RORO ships.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 5 2025, 01:01 PM)
Always no news car manufacturing.  tongue.gif
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Actually there is, just that we think it's better not to release such news to the public. If the public views EV in negative light, susah la want to sell EV. So must prevent such news from gaining traction.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 5 2025, 12:46 PM)
From the link...
EV fans: Confirmed fire started from hybrids! EV are very safe.
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Jun 5 2025, 12:52 PM)
that why P2 ship the EV without battery....
see so P2 already know how to solve EV from fire....
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Japantimes sudah start tembak liao. I'm going to make educated guess that current firefighting systems on shipping vessels are not designed to deal with EV fires. Doesn't matter whether ICE car or EV started the fire, if the fire spreads and the EVs catch fire, then this is the result - fire cannot be put out and the ship has to be abandoned.

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Fires involving EVs are often harder to extinguish and more dangerous to fight. The conditions of a tightly packed car-carrying cargo ship lead to limited ventilation, which can rapidly intensify heat. The confined, steel-lined environment makes fire suppression and rescues significantly more dangerous.

Additionally, when an electric vehicle burns, it does so for longer and the fire gets hotter. The flames can end up accelerating through chain reactions and spiraling out of control quickly, a process called thermal runaway. EV fires can take up to 30,000 liters of water to cool the lithium-ion batteries.

In 2022, a vessel carrying about 4,000 vehicles caught fire in the Atlantic and ended up sinking despite efforts to tow it to safety. A year later, another ship with close to 3,000 cars on board caught fire near the Dutch coast.

Shipowners have taken steps to try to manage the safety risks involved in hauling electric vehicles. Last year, a key safety group published guidelines on how to deal with fires on board the vessels.



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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Jun 5 2025, 12:19 PM)
Obviously, we need a 600 foot long car carrier fire blanket..
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Can't they just dump the burning EV into the sea?
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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ Jun 5 2025, 12:14 PM)
ev cars not for human use one always kaboom while parking. ice car only kaboom if too fast too furious. moral of the story ice ice baby
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The batteries component are very volatile. Well known
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 5 2025, 12:18 PM)
Maritime insurance probably more expensive for EV delivery…
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shouldn't the battery be drain for shipping?? why the F go ship a fully charged EV...
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Ev is just not suitable for long distance travel
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plot twist: those are Tesla EVs on the ship.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 5 2025, 12:57 PM)
No worries, if other lines refuse to EV, we at BYD have already build our own carrier to prove to the world how safe shipping EV truly is.
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BYD carrier can brake to 0 in how many secs?
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Which car carrier doesn't carry EV these days?
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jun 5 2025, 01:14 PM)
Can't they just dump the burning EV into the sea?
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jun 5 2025, 01:14 PM)
Can't they just dump the burning EV into the sea?
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How they can even get near to the burning car let alone move it Einstein ??
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 5 2025, 12:49 PM)
wana claim insurance :X
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Yalor. BYD cut price until so aggressive, how to sell? Just burn it down and collect insurance better.
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ev car is dead. rip 2025

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jun 5 2025, 12:22 PM)
Apa brand?

Oh all EV also catch fire

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Hope semua burn down kasi the inventory down sikit
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Jun 5 2025, 07:40 PM)
Hope semua burn down kasi the inventory down sikit
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out of 3000 over cars only 65 are EVs
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jun 5 2025, 06:48 PM)
producing waste only doh.gif
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Ccp punya theory of manufacturing..
Use 1 time, throw
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Jun 5 2025, 08:43 PM)
Ccp punya theory of manufacturing..
Use 1 time, throw
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Trash People = Trash. Unsustainable Fail Economy of Consumption
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Yeap.. flooding the world with shit good.. use and throw.. and the crap part is when they throw, the rubbish is exported to country like malaysia to process as recycle good.. mahpugi jibet
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Jun 5 2025, 08:46 PM)
Yeap.. flooding the world with shit good.. use and throw.. and the crap part is when they throw, the rubbish is exported to country like malaysia to process as recycle good.. mahpugi jibet
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Jun 5 2025, 03:07 PM)
How they can even get near to the burning car let alone move it Einstein ??
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soya lanjiao say they are shipping it wrong way up. this is ship problem. ev suci murni
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QUOTE(Kasawari 2 @ Jun 5 2025, 12:59 PM)
EV fans : ICE cars have more fire than EV.
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This one macam seisohai trusol. He will throw out statistic la yada, then taichi spinning roti Chennai say burn down car show room factory, whole lot of underground car park is fake news yada yada
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 5 2025, 12:23 PM)
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/06/05/22-crews-me...sands-vehicles/

According to the video, ICE cars are shipped with nearly empty fuel tanks. Can't do that with EVs.
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Actually why don't they only charge the battery after reaching port? No electricity then no fire. If the battery is full before departure can always donate to me I help them drain by running air con.


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This ship shud now enroute back to shanghai port to be sinked there.. dont ship ur trash there ccp
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 5 2025, 08:58 PM)
Actually why don't they only charge the battery after reaching port? No electricity then no fire. If the battery is full before departure can always donate to me I help them drain by running air con.
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trusol why?
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QUOTE(kaizoku30 @ Jun 5 2025, 08:41 PM)
This one macam seisohai trusol. He will throw out statistic la yada, then taichi spinning roti Chennai say burn down car show room factory, whole lot of underground car park is fake news yada yada
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Trusol where got statistic one? All theory only...
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 5 2025, 08:58 PM)
Actually why don't they only charge the battery after reaching port? No electricity then no fire. If the battery is full before departure can always donate to me I help them drain by running air con.
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If the High Voltage batteries does not have any charge, how are they going to move the EVs from the factory to their destination ?

The amazing thing about EV is, after catching on fire, one would think every cell would have been spent under extreme heat, KNN, suddenly week(s) later, it can self combust all by itself again. Bila nak habis bakar ni ?

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 5 2025, 12:46 PM)
From the link...
EV fans: Confirmed fire started from hybrids! EV are very safe.
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EV fans: PHEV also count under EV laa... Chynaa NEV sales surpassed 50% overtaken ice gg nokia kodak dinasour , EV is future don't wait.

also EV fans: Cargo on faiyahh 🔥🔥🔥 PHEV not EV okay, PHEV got ice not safe 1. Don't simply count as EV.

QUOTE(N9484640 @ Jun 5 2025, 07:11 PM)
out of 3000 over cars only 65 are EVs
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who carry 2nd hand EV on cargo again? laugh.gif
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update. Sunk liao. I wonder how many carbon credits went down with that ship. if lets say 1 in 1000 EV ship car carrier sink, will that offset any CO2 savings from EVs?

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/us/morni...orthern-pacific

Anchorage, Alaska (AP) — A cargo ship that had been delivering new vehicles to Mexico sank in the North Pacific Ocean, weeks after crew members abandoned ship when they couldn’t extinguish an onboard fire that left the carrier dead in the water.


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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 25 2025, 05:22 PM)
update. Sunk liao. I wonder how many carbon credits went down with that ship. if lets say 1 in 1000 EV ship car carrier sink, will that offset any CO2 savings from EVs?

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/us/morni...orthern-pacific

Anchorage, Alaska (AP) — A cargo ship that had been delivering new vehicles to Mexico sank in the North Pacific Ocean, weeks after crew members abandoned ship when they couldn’t extinguish an onboard fire that left the carrier dead in the water.
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I am more concerned about what kind of contamination that is now leached into oceans that it's going into enter into marine life and we end up eating such contamination indirectly.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 25 2025, 05:39 PM)
I am more concerned about what kind of contamination that is now leached into oceans that it's going into enter into marine life and we end up eating such contamination indirectly.
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That ship only had 70 pure EV and 600 hybrids. But the fire caused by lithium batteries. Imagine those byd super size ships carrying tens of thousands of pure EVs in future
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 25 2025, 06:03 PM)
That ship only had 70 pure EV and 600 hybrids. But the fire caused by lithium batteries. Imagine those byd super size ships carrying tens of thousands of pure EVs in future
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Cannot eat seafood liao la like that.

Anyway got online videos that speaks about toxic water runoffs from water used in combating EV fires but would you know what kind of toxins are we looking at ?

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 25 2025, 05:39 PM)
I am more concerned about what kind of contamination that is now leached into oceans that it's going into enter into marine life and we end up eating such contamination indirectly.
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the salt will neutralise it :X

just like most human waste are dump into the sea :X
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 25 2025, 06:11 PM)
the salt will neutralise it :X

just like most human waste are dump into the sea :X
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Our human waste got toxic heavy metals, no right ? Salt can neutralize heavy metals meh ? If can, then how come got research papers by universities indicate that kupang hijau has the highest levels of toxic metals detected in them ?

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 25 2025, 06:03 PM)
That ship only had 70 pure EV and 600 hybrids. But the fire caused by lithium batteries. Imagine those byd super size ships carrying tens of thousands of pure EVs in future
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Nobody really knows what caused this ship fire. All speculation. Just like the 2023 MV Freemantle Highway ship fire quickly blamed on EVs. But after the ship was brought back to shore, all the EVs were found to be intact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Fremantle_Highway

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There has been much speculation that the battery pack from an electric car caused the fire, but this proved to be wrong when offloading the ship. Around 1,000 cars were recovered in essentially good condition - among them all the 498 electrical cars which were on board the ship. However, the cause of the fire is unknown. Investigations started when the ship was moored in Eemshaven.



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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 25 2025, 05:22 PM)
update. Sunk liao. I wonder how many carbon credits went down with that ship. if lets say 1 in 1000 EV ship car carrier sink, will that offset any CO2 savings from EVs?

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/us/morni...orthern-pacific

Anchorage, Alaska (AP) — A cargo ship that had been delivering new vehicles to Mexico sank in the North Pacific Ocean, weeks after crew members abandoned ship when they couldn’t extinguish an onboard fire that left the carrier dead in the water.
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My colleague from Thailand is calling this ev zero carbon thing bullshit. She is from chiangmai area. This is what she said

1. Near Cambodia border. China is doing some mining in rear earth thingy and contaminated the river inthailand. Fish mutated. Now the citizen are furious with their gov

2. All the big batteries cannot be recycled. And Japan will obly take back batteries that are produce by Japanese car. Good luck for other cars


Well she said that. And I believe it's has some credibility. We only see yhe end product of ev as clean.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 25 2025, 06:15 PM)
Our human waste got toxic heavy metals, no right ? Salt can neutralize heavy metals meh ? If can, then how come got research papers by universities indicate that kupang hijau has the highest levels of toxic metals detected in them ?
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but knowing kpang hijau has highest level of toxic, human still eat it, cos delicious cool2.gif cool2.gif who cares?
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post Jun 25 2025, 07:39 PM

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Fire started by Abu Bakar letteww...


inb4: EV is Scayemmm
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post Jun 25 2025, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 25 2025, 06:56 PM)
My colleague from Thailand is calling this ev zero carbon thing bullshit. She is from chiangmai area. This is what she said

1. Near Cambodia border. China is doing some mining in rear earth thingy and contaminated the river inthailand. Fish mutated. Now the citizen are furious with their gov

2. All the big batteries cannot be recycled. And Japan will obly take back batteries that are produce by Japanese car. Good luck for other cars
Well she said that. And I believe it's has some credibility. We only see yhe end product of ev as clean.
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Except that she's an ignorant idiot.

1. NCM and LFP batteries don't use any rare earth metals at all. If you say the EV's motor needs rare earth metals, that's correct. But so many devices in the world also contain rare-earth metals especially motors including ICE cars, planes and even hard disks, so why blame on EVs alone?

2. All EV batteries can be recycled, especially by China. But stupid Thai people maybe don't know how to do it.


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post Jun 25 2025, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 25 2025, 07:08 PM)
but knowing kpang hijau has highest level of toxic, human still eat it, cos delicious  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  who cares?
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As much as I love seafood, I do care and that is why I don't eat seafood any longer and advice all my clients to abstain from them too. Well I cannot afford to have my clients dying from heavy toxic metals now right ? 🙂
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:41 PM

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Dah agak Dah, EV company nak claim Insurance company.
Tactic same dgn kedai perabot. Sial
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:48 PM

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EV was a scam to begin with...
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 25 2025, 08:09 PM)
As much as I love seafood, I do care and that is why I don't eat seafood any longer and advice all my clients to abstain from them too. Well I cannot afford to have my clients dying from heavy toxic metals now right ? 🙂
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that's only you and your gang only, there are billions of people out there still consuming :X

some scientists mentioned we need to eat a bit of dirt or toxic so that the immune system get used to it, some says chinese emperor will eat a little bit amount of mecury, arsenic trioxide to get used to it, so when they got poison, they will survive :X
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untung lar ev manufacture can claim insurance and continue make new car
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QUOTE(blek @ Jun 25 2025, 09:53 PM)
untung lar ev manufacture can claim insurance and continue make new car
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Mana tak untung, they don't have to manufacture according to market demand ape, janji produce and they CCCP pays them ok la tu. Jual, tak jual, is the least of their concern. Biznezz like this sure untung wan la. Insurance don't pay, they also untung what. Insurance pay, they lagi untung.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Jun 25 2025, 06:56 PM)
My colleague from Thailand is calling this ev zero carbon thing bullshit. She is from chiangmai area. This is what she said

1. Near Cambodia border. China is doing some mining in rear earth thingy and contaminated the river inthailand. Fish mutated. Now the citizen are furious with their gov

2. All the big batteries cannot be recycled. And Japan will obly take back batteries that are produce by Japanese car. Good luck for other cars
Well she said that. And I believe it's has some credibility. We only see yhe end product of ev as clean.
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corporate open door do business you tak nak believe
you believe some random girl from Thailand which you dont know at all.


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No need Thailand
Malaysia already got rare earth corporate/company

Does our fish mutated?
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post Jun 26 2025, 09:03 AM

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Just some EV car can sink the ship. sweat.gif



 

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