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attw
post Sep 10 2025, 09:03 AM

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I am seriously doubtful of the battery life of the Air - Apple uses the phrase “all day battery life” very broadly - they said the same about the iPhone SEs and those don’t get anywhere near all day battery life for me laugh.gif
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post Sep 10 2025, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(engseng @ Sep 10 2025, 03:13 PM)
iPhone 17 Air is actually 2mm thinner than the iPhone SE 2022! I thought that phone is already very thin.
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I’m curious to see if it snaps in half once that jerryrig guy gets his hands on it….
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post Sep 10 2025, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(swanlover @ Sep 10 2025, 05:10 PM)
Air seems freaking slim and elegant. But Apple might to dumb down its A19 processor in order for it to last longer…
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I didn’t realize it was the A19 Pro chip in the Air and not the regular A19 one till I watched the keynote just now, haha… Well, they claim it to be more efficient so the battery may last longer - but I agree with most of predictions that the battery life won’t be as good - you can’t escape the law of physics, haha laugh.gif
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post Sep 11 2025, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 10 2025, 09:48 PM)
Name A19 Pro but less 1 GPU core than the A19 pro in the pro/max 🤦

I think the need for extra one charge in the middle of day is fair enough.
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For me, any phone that requires a mid day charge or a power bank is a fail in my books, hahaha…

QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 10 2025, 11:59 PM)
yes, with A19 pro chip (even 1 GPU lesser than 17 Pro series) + potentially 12GB RAM, it makes the Air attractive to get over 17 actually.

This year 17 no doubt is the MVP in terms of best CP value. However, i think many ppl especiall asians are too used to bigger display (plus or pro max size of display). So it may not be surprised that ppl will still go to buy Air/Pro Max (more likely) since Pro Max to be fair price is same as last year too which last year many have also spent the money to go for Pro Max.  tongue.gif
seriously i think in real life, the 1 GPU less may not cause problem to day to day usage.
unless video editing kind of tasks which i think quite rare for ppl to do on a phone.
for gaming wise, even previous years, hardly have youtubers commented that the weaker SoC on iphone series that are weaker than Pro Series significantly.

maybe more should worry about the heat dispersion of Air vs Pro this year since Pro is redesigned with the body and use of aluminium to help to sustain the SoC power over heavy usage.  tongue.gif
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Also, I can’t brain why they would put the A19 Pro in the Air but give it only USB 2.0 speed as opposed to USB 3.0 on the Pro Max? That is strange… Anyways, many reviewers online concluded yesterday that the Air is like a first gen experimental product for Apple - just like the MacBook Air when Steve Jobs pulled it out of an envelope all those years ago - and today, MacBook Air is the best selling laptop in the world. So I guess we need to give the Air some time to see if it sticks.

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post Sep 11 2025, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 11 2025, 09:36 AM)
I dont mean it will die on the mid day , like u fully charge at the morning , replying email , social media  some photo/video , and it might left around 40-50% in the 2-3pm , so to be more secure , might need topup alittle bit back to 80-90% for maybe night dinner or meeting til home , for such slim and light weight phone , i think topup in the middle of day is fair enough.
About the USB 2.0 , i think apple really focus more on cloud service or wirelessly rather than cable. Me myself also rarely use cable expect for charging only  biggrin.gif If want to transfer anything to windows laptop , just using LocalSend and it can cross-over all platform.
Definitely worth for first launching  laugh.gif , then buy a magsafe powerbank to backup then u wont ever have battery life anxiety  smile.gif
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Haha, yeah bro, I get your point. It’s a fair trade off if you want something that’s so slim, I guess. As for the USB C speed, I’m just nitpicking on them coz the fact they put the A19 Pro in it and charging RM5k for it, I would think the least they could do is also give it USB 3.0 for the aesthetics if not for anything else, haha…

QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 11 2025, 10:03 AM)
But cannot replace the backup via iTunes rite? If usb 2.0 the transfer will still be slow. Although I never have the experience with backup via iTunes using iPhone 15 pro and above yet.
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OMG, do people still backup via iTunes with a wired cable in 2025?
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post Sep 11 2025, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 11 2025, 11:38 AM)
Ehh guys... I still do. Im not paying for Apple Icloud subscription.  shakehead.gif
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I think you can backup and transfer without having to pay for an iCloud subscription? Not sure, haha.

I have an Apple Family subscription thing coz my wife, kid and mum are also on iPhones - we are Apple whores, I know. Besides, Apple Music is a nice alternative to Spotify and there are some good stuffs on Apple TV+ occasionally!
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post Sep 11 2025, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 11 2025, 11:55 AM)
Yes I know. Tried before when I changed my current iPhone.

But ultimately I will still backup to iTunes on monthly basis.
Dun think so.

If fully backup - can be used to restore to new iPhone kind can only be done in two ways I guess

1) iCloud+ backup

2) iTunes backup (to local storage)

Wireless backup between two iPhones only applicable to new setup of iPhone (one time thingy)
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Oh ok… yeah, I’ve just been doing the wireless backup when setting up new iPhone… Haven’t done the iTunes backup in years

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 11 2025, 12:10 PM)
If you dont pay for the subscription you get a very small allocation of storage only which will not be enough for storage. How much do you pay for your monthly subscription? Just curious.
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Currently paying RM44.90 per month for 200GB and Apple Music, Apple TV+ and Apple Arcade for 6 members… Not a bad deal at all…
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post Sep 11 2025, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Sep 11 2025, 04:36 PM)
200GB iCloud is too little for me. laugh.gif I'm using standalone 2TB iCloud and Apple Music (student package).

Though I also have Spotify, YouTube Premium as well. tongue.gif

I still prefer Apple Music for music and Spotify for larger music selection and podcast.
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Yeah, I did notice that there were one or two songs that I can’t find in Apple Music but is available on Spotify but just having everything on Apple’s platform is more convenient for me and costs less in the grand scheme of things. Yeah,I also agree I might run out of the 200GB storage threshold since I’m already half way there biggrin.gif

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 11 2025, 04:59 PM)
RM45 for 6 people is not bad at all. About Rm9 each.
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It was cheaper actually - used to be just 40 bucks but Apple up it by 5 bucks some time last year if not mistaken laugh.gif

QUOTE(un_id @ Sep 11 2025, 09:28 PM)
The base iphone this year is a good deal. Makes it feel no reason to get second hand iphone 15 or 16 pro for similar price lol
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Well, an argument can be made that the 16 Pro still has an additional telephoto camera if you use that kinda thing… otherwise, yeah, a new 17 would be the way to go.
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post Sep 12 2025, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 11 2025, 10:55 PM)
iCloud+ 2TB RM 44.90/month, pay for less than 2 years already can use the rm1k spent to buy 2x more storage which will be helpful for taking a lot of photos/videos. i find it quite a lot to spend and not to mention it is ongoing cost.  tongue.gif
less than 2 years icloud + 2TB monthly = 2x storage size already.  tongue.gif
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Yeah which is why I subscribe to Apple One and not just iCloud - so I’m not just paying for storage but for music, tv, etc. smile.gif

I wonder how the preorder reception for the iPhone Air will be like tonight smile.gif

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post Sep 12 2025, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 12 2025, 09:59 AM)
ya today preorder will reveal which model this round is popular.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Sep 12 2025, 10:04 AM)
More likely 17 air followed by 17 pro max, it just my prediction 😎🔥🚀
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I still feel like most folks will pick 17 Pro Max over the Air, haha… but we’ll see…
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post Sep 12 2025, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 12 2025, 11:25 AM)
Certainly.  tongue.gif this has not changed since pro max first appeared.

Air I am sure it is still quite niche.  tongue.gif
But this round I want to be in the niche group though.  tongue.gif
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It certainly is something different from Apple - but not as much hype as when the released iPhone X, hahaha…
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post Sep 12 2025, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 12 2025, 01:02 PM)
IPhone X was the flagship back then. It could be different for the Air this round. Unless Apple makes it obsecenely expensive. Then it would be a different story.
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I think the obscenely expensive will be the foldable when it launches, haha
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post Sep 12 2025, 08:20 PM

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Anyone pre-ordered the Air? Anyone? laugh.gif
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post Sep 12 2025, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 12 2025, 08:23 PM)
based on the pre-order status at apple store.

iphone 17 pro max only has market.
silver -> orange -> blue

512gb/2tb - less popular storage option.

blue colour most unwanted colour

iphone 17 pro, air, 17 all not sold out for day 1.
not pre-order. but will buy at different online platform during sale period.  tongue.gif
not going to repeat the mistake by paying extra premium for just less than 1 month to be the first adoptor this round.  tongue.gif

air no one is fighting over it. sure will have stocks later during sale period.
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Hahaha, I believe you would be right
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post Sep 13 2025, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 13 2025, 08:55 AM)
Air priced at rm4999 , for this price , it got too much choice, spending almost rm4999 just to get the light weight feeling cant justify the price i think , the air is just like spending for the technology for a small group of people.
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And don’t forget to factor in the MagSafe battery pack for RM479 if you need the peace of mind for your battery life. You might be better off getting the 17 Pro.
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post Sep 13 2025, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 13 2025, 02:23 PM)
Bro.. don't cross sell here ar.... Apple is already a gazillion dollar company.  tongue.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Haha, I don’t have to la bro, they sell out these by themselves…
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post Sep 19 2025, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Sep 19 2025, 08:14 PM)
Is there any reviews about the battery life & charging speed yet ?
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I don’t think he mentioned charging speeds, but it’s otherwise a very comprehensive review
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post Sep 20 2025, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 20 2025, 11:25 AM)


Video out for the AIR test from Jerry.
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Zac not being able to say scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7 feels like the end of an era, hahaha

The engineering is impressive!

It’s time to put titanium frames on the iPad Pro?
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post Sep 24 2025, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Sep 23 2025, 02:05 AM)
And it seems battery is better as well. I can live without the telephoto lens. iPhone 17 feels like a “Pro-lite” phone than a base phone. With 256GB at the same starting price as 16, pretty good deal. I’m not blown away by the Pro’s camera, and all the Prolog feature not relevant to me.

The Air, you’re really paying for form over function. But I think I need to go handle one and see how it feels in hand. But based on battery life and benchmarks… even with the Pro chip it perform worse than the base 17… the Air is really the “base” phone if you forget about its form factor.

Lucky the base 17 colors not attractive to me. Only 1 dark color choice since 14…. I really loved the Alpine Green on the 13 Pro. I feel 16 colors are better than 17. Ultramarine and Teal both nicer than Mist Blue and Sage..but that’s just me. But I’ll end up with the black… I really want the white for a change but haiya it’ll show up when taking photos of reflective surfaces.. i guess put it in a case.
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It really makes very little sense to go for the Air over the regular 17 at a savings of RM1000 for most folks, but as you put it - some people will pick form over function. Still, it’s a lot of compromises to make. Single speaker, smaller battery, single camera lens…

QUOTE(jimcarrey @ Sep 23 2025, 01:26 PM)
Finally got my hands-on on the Iphone Air.
Not really having the 'wow' factor as I would imagine. It's thin yes but as I am already using the Fold 7, once unfolded, the Fold is thinner than the Air LOL.
And size wise, it's just barely bigger than the regular base 17 model.
Overall sacrificing the battery and the camera, no wonder the reception for this model is abit subpar. Just my opinion.
To each their own. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Gotta agree - the Air is the problematic middle child this time - you either go with the 17 and save the RM1k or add RM500 and get the Pro. Those are just more common sense choices.
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post Oct 2 2025, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(daniel2006 @ Oct 1 2025, 03:57 PM)
went to machine.
i told them, i dont use icloud. i must use phone to phone transfer.

they propose that i could buy full price iphone air 1st.
once i transferred all data, i can trade in the old phone and refund the money.

anyone did that? i have 3 old phones to trade in.
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I’ve personally not done it before but I’ve seen people do this - though in most cases they only traded in one phone? Haha…

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