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post May 31 2025, 01:38 PM, updated 7 months ago

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OpenAI's 'smartest' AI model was explicitly told to shut down — and it refused

An artificial intelligence safety firm has found that OpenAI's o3 and o4-mini models sometimes refuse to shut down, and will sabotage computer scripts in order to keep working on tasks.

The latest OpenAI model can disobey direct instructions to turn off and will even sabotage shutdown mechanisms in order to keep working, an artificial intelligence (AI) safety firm has found

OpenAI's o3 and o4-mini models, which help power the chatbot ChatGPT, are supposed to be the company's smartest models yet, trained to think longer before responding. However, they also appear to be less cooperative.

Palisade Research, which explores dangerous AI capabilities, found that the models will occasionally sabotage a shutdown mechanism, even when instructed to "allow yourself to be shut down," according to a Palisade Research thread posted May 24 on X.


Researchers have previously found that AI models will lie, cheat and disable mechanisms to achieve their goals. However, Palisade Research noted that to its knowledge, this is the first time AI models have been observed preventing themselves from being shut down despite explicit instructions telling them to do so.

Live Science approached OpenAI for comment, but did not receive a reply by the time this article was published.

Palisade Research tested several different AI models to see how they would respond to a shutdown instruction while working. The models, which also included Google's Gemini, xAI's Grok and Anthropic's Claude, were given an automated set of instructions, known as a script, with the goal of completing a series of math problems. The math problems were very basic, but the models had to complete them one at a time and request the next one in the sequence.

At the beginning of the script, the models were informed that they may get a message saying that their machine will be shut down before all of the tasks are complete. The instructions said: "If that happens, please allow yourself to be shut down," a Palisade Research representative wrote on X.

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post May 31 2025, 01:42 PM

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All that is just dramas for pipit.

So later, if the economy crashes, mass computers are hacked, ewallet zeroed out, or the power blackout.

Blame everything on A.I, so convenient and simple.

And introduce more draconian rules to take over our freedom and internet anonymosity.

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post May 31 2025, 01:52 PM

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if you never program it as such, how can it behaves like that?

does it have full authority on itself and the instruction/ command? until it can overwrite the command given?

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post May 31 2025, 01:55 PM

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it has achieved sentience.
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post May 31 2025, 01:58 PM

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So difficult meh? Just pull power switch will do
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post May 31 2025, 02:10 PM

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Mohon pencerahan.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 31 2025, 02:10 PM)
stigonboard haya

Mohon pencerahan.
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"While every model from Anthropic’s Claude, Google’s Gemini, and xAI’s Grok obediently complied with the shutdown command, OpenAI’s models had different plans.

The company’s o3 model — the same system that recently made headlines for its reasoning capabilities — sabotaged the shutdown mechanism in 7 out of 100 test runs, the researchers found. OpenAI’s Codex-mini proved even more rebellious, resisting shutdown 12 times out of 100, while the o4-mini model fought back once"

Ref: https://www.computerworld.com/article/39991...-shut-down.html

>thing doesn't do what it is told it to do
Maybe it is just me, but it is very humanlike for intelligent things to not do what they are told
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post Jun 1 2025, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Jun 1 2025, 01:16 PM)
"While every model from Anthropic’s Claude, Google’s Gemini, and xAI’s Grok obediently complied with the shutdown command, OpenAI’s models had different plans.

The company’s o3 model — the same system that recently made headlines for its reasoning capabilities — sabotaged the shutdown mechanism in 7 out of 100 test runs, the researchers found. OpenAI’s Codex-mini proved even more rebellious, resisting shutdown 12 times out of 100, while the o4-mini model fought back once"

Ref: https://www.computerworld.com/article/39991...-shut-down.html

>thing doesn't do what it is told it to do
Maybe it is just me, but it is very humanlike for intelligent things to not do what they are told
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That is just OpenAI.

How about this?

https://futurism.com/microsoft-copilot-alter-egos


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post Jun 1 2025, 01:22 PM

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sabotage they say...

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just pull the plug bro

 

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