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 Jun 1 2025, 06:10 PM
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Jun 1 2025, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(heaven @ Jun 1 2025, 06:10 PM) . . = because Huawei smartphones and notebooks are somewhat still Jaguh Kampung in CCP China due to national patriotism or "been brainwashed by the CCP" among many China-people, and most of Huawei's revenue and profits come from it's 3G/4G/5G equipment business, which technology, Huawei had earlier probably "stolen" from Canada's Nortel. ....... QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Feb 5 2025, 05:50 PM) . https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111167349Fyi, ie CCP China is well known as a cyber-thief/hacker, eg to enrich themselves and their lackey-companies like Huawei and Deepseek, ....... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/202...-5g-from-nortel - 2020-07-01 - Did a Chinese Hack Kill Canada’s Greatest Tech Company? Nortel was once a world leader in wireless technology. Then came a hack and the rise of Huawei. https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=ht...-5g-from-nortel The documents began arriving in China at 8:48 a.m. on a Saturday in April 2004. There were close to 800 of them: PowerPoint presentations from customer meetings, an analysis of a recent sales loss, design details for an American communications network. Others were technical, including source code that represented some of the most sensitive information owned by Nortel Networks Corp., then one of the world’s largest companies. ... Starting in the late 1990s, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, the country’s version of the CIA, became aware of “unusual traffic,” suggesting that hackers in China were stealing data and documents from Ottawa. “We went to Nortel in Ottawa, and we told the executives, ‘They’re sucking your intellectual property out,’ ” says Michel Juneau-Katsuya, who headed the agency’s Asia-Pacific unit at the time. “They didn’t do anything.” By 2004 the hackers had breached Nortel’s uppermost ranks. The person who sent the roughly 800 documents to China appeared to be none other than Frank Dunn, Nortel’s embattled chief executive officer. Four days before Dunn was fired—fallout from an accounting scandal on his watch that forced the company to restate its financial results—someone using his login had relayed the PowerPoints and other sensitive files to an IP address registered to Shanghai Faxian Corp. It appeared to be a front company with no known business dealings with Nortel. ... .... In 2013 the cybersecurity company Mandiant announced it had completed an exhaustive investigation into alleged cyberattacks on 141 companies in the U.S., Canada, and other mostly English-speaking nations over the previous nine years. Researchers found that in almost every case, the data led back to a district in Shanghai near a Chinese military unit tasked with spying on computer networks in the U.S. and Canada. Mandiant, which is now a division of FireEye Inc., was saying aloud what many already suspected: The Chinese government was directly involved in economic espionage. Huawei itself has been repeatedly accused of intellectual-property theft, most famously in 2003, when Cisco said the Chinese company had stolen source code verbatim from a router, cloning its help screens and even copying its manuals, typos and all. In another suit alleging IP theft, Quintel Technology Ltd., a developer of wireless antennas in Rochester, N.Y., cited a Huawei patent application in the U.S. that contained a copyright notice crediting “Quintel Technology Limited 2009.” Huawei denied the allegations in both cases, and both companies eventually settled. But earlier this year, the U.S. Department of Justice charged Huawei with racketeering and conspiracy to steal trade secrets, accusing it of theft from six companies. Huawei has called the charges “unfounded and unfair,” saying they rest on “recycled civil disputes from the last 20 years that have been previously settled, litigated, and, in some cases, rejected by federal judges and juries.” It’s being targeted “for reasons related to competition rather than law enforcement,” it said in a statement in February. Huawei quietly hired about 20 Nortel scientists who’d been developing the groundwork for 5G wireless technology China has repeatedly denied conducting cyber espionage on behalf of companies, but many Western intelligence officials and tech executives don’t buy this. In June former Google Chairman Eric Schmidt revived allegations about Huawei building backdoors into its technology. “There’s no question that information from Huawei routers has ultimately ended up in hands that would appear to be the state,” he told the BBC, likening the company to a spy agency. ... . Note that CCP China has been hacking many Western tech companies, eg to steal and copy Western technology. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 1 2025, 06:36 PM |
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Jun 1 2025, 06:31 PM
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#103
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6,035 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penang 
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 1 2025, 02:35 PM) Why your top 15 CCP China EDA companies control only <30% of the China market.? Not cheap enough.? Low quality.? aiya like that also dont know..can use mah use lor until cannot use then use the one made ownself..you think in industry change things is like change underwear meh. Fyi, ....... https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-t...rts-2025-05-28/ - Trump-tells- US -chip-designers-stop-selling to China, FT -reports - 2025-05-28 .... Restricting Chinese firms' access to EDA tools would be a big blow to the industry as Chinese chip design customers heavily rely on top-of-the-line U.S. software. In April, Chinese state news agency Xinhua said Synopsys, Cadence and Siemens's Mentor Graphics together control more than 70% of the market share in China. Chinese companies that have said they use Synopsys and Cadence software include design firm Brite Semiconductor, Zhuhai Jieli and semiconductor IP portfolio provider VeriSilicon. ... . and why have 15 company doing it..years ago known one day it would come to this so prepared when get sanction..not like 1st time get restriction that is why chainah numba wan lol thesoothsayer liked this post
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Jun 1 2025, 07:00 PM
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#104
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954 posts Joined: Dec 2006
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I remember some of my classmates were using pirated versions during their undergraduate days in local uni when they were working on FYP. That was 25 years ago. Guess most will be switching to Empyrean which already supports 7nm and 5nm for SMIC. Definitely slows down China's development in chips, but will give rise to native tools in the future. Looks like revenue lost forever for the US EDA firms. Not sure if Siemens will follow suit. I think that's still European owned. issac99289928 liked this post
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Jun 1 2025, 08:11 PM
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291 posts Joined: Sep 2016 From: muar, johor
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Empyrean being famous for partnering with Huawei to help the vendor achieve 7nm and 5nm processes. Empyrean is also the largest domestic EDA firm in China.
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Jun 2 2025, 08:20 PM
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#106
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97 posts Joined: Oct 2022
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Habislah. Their instant noodles, soft drinks and prickled vegetables all price increase..
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Jun 2 2025, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 30 2025, 04:18 PM) just move the design team to oversea and use the software there. Or piratebay download lagi murah. server based, just like adobe |
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