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TSsiren
post May 28 2025, 12:16 PM, updated 7 months ago

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I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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post May 28 2025, 12:18 PM

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why do u need 800 mbps for?

download 1 tb prono?
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post May 28 2025, 12:18 PM

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For gaming you are looking for latency not bandwidth
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post May 28 2025, 12:19 PM

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Difference is 500mbps
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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well, the higher speed is obviously suitable if more people are using at the same time

imagine 15 people using at the same time, you might feel the difference
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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Park. Want to know the same thing.

Same thing from 4g to 5g Celcom.. same thing.. cant see the diff..
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post May 28 2025, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 28 2025, 12:18 PM)
For gaming you are looking for latency not bandwidth
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also need to look at the target server

if outside of Asia then good luck playing with 200 ms ping when you're playing competitive game

thats the most possible ping to get even with the shortest latency there is
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post May 28 2025, 12:23 PM

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One of my home is 300 Mbps fibre whereas my mobile's 5G can reach 800Mbps

No difference. I just felt fibre is stable
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post May 28 2025, 12:24 PM

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if u r not a heavy downloader

300mbps is more thn enough
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post May 28 2025, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(das99990428 @ May 28 2025, 12:20 PM)
well, the higher speed is obviously suitable if more people are using at the same time

imagine 15 people using at the same time, you might feel the difference
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this. more bandwidth to cater to more IoTs in your home as well.

i'm always under the conclusion that 100Mbps is more than sufficient for the average per person. you can do alot at that speeds provided its consistent.

only very niche groups requires very high speeds unless somehow they remove all forms of digital compression in internet
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Depends what you use it for and what server are you using for

For me...u give me 800mbps, I can actually full utilize it...some server, not all
Most server would do fine on 300mbps
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post May 28 2025, 12:27 PM

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5 person household here
300mbps is slow

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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 01:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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unless if you have a big machine server at home, I don't really see the point taking more than 300 mbps. Heck, 100mbps should be more than enough unless household stay with family + heavy watch video usage
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post May 28 2025, 12:28 PM

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I ragrats

Even pay extra RM10 to get 500mbps, totally unstable and speed most of the time less than my previous 300mbps.

Maxis don't want to change the router also. And the top router also lousy one. Dunno how many years already.
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post May 28 2025, 12:28 PM

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how many people using
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ May 28 2025, 12:24 PM)
if u r not a heavy downloader

300mbps is more thn enough
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post May 28 2025, 12:31 PM

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no difference until u have like >5 people in the house.

each person 1 phone + 1 pc/tablet, 1440p youtube etc


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post May 28 2025, 12:31 PM

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depends on usage. if do heavy downloading the extra bandwidth is necessary but if TS do more streaming then you dont fully utilize the 800 mbps. so downgrade to 300mbps will be the correct move.

at home I have 5 users sharing the connection so my 500mbps is sufficient and fully utilized.
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post May 28 2025, 12:32 PM

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I downgraded from 1Gbps to 500Mbps and still feel it's a lot.

Plus all my 4tb x2 full.
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gaming is more towards latency la. Cos need exchange data in real time

Streaming/browsing is the connection speed, 300mbps is more than enough to view 4k video.

Anything above 300 is for NAS, at that point upload speed more important than download.

If u want smooth gaming better to invest some $$ for vpn. exitlag works really great the last time i used. support most online games. Easy to use and not expensive. cheapest is to create new account and then sapu the annual package during black friday. Those black friday deals only work on new account, so need register every year.

That's my 2sen la as plebian.
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QUOTE(R0ADTAX @ May 28 2025, 12:18 PM)
why do u need 800 mbps for?

download 1 tb prono?
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Bingo
You don't want the video streaming suddenly buffering at the most important timearea
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post May 28 2025, 12:34 PM

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Maybe for big house, if wifi signal weak speed drop 80% still fast

Not sure if that's how it's work

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QUOTE(azbro @ May 28 2025, 12:28 PM)
I ragrats

Even pay extra RM10 to get 500mbps, totally unstable and speed most of the time less than my previous 300mbps.

Maxis don't want to change the router also. And the top router also lousy one. Dunno how many years already.
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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One of the big difference is upload speed.
300mbps plan only has 50mbps upload, 500mbps plan has 100mbps upload. No idea on 800mbps but 1gbps plan has 500mbps upload. Useful for people that uses alot of cloud storage or self proclaimed youtuber etc etc
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post May 28 2025, 12:38 PM

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U won't noticed the speed unless u do downloading. Streaming 50mbps also enough
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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 28 2025, 12:18 PM)
For gaming you are looking for latency not bandwidth
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how to improve latency? buy better router?

i have 500mbps unifi but sometimes competitive gaming got random lag/ping spike and rubber banding that one why ah?
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post May 28 2025, 12:40 PM

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300mbps is good enough for a condo, anything above are extra non utilized anyway
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QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ May 28 2025, 12:40 PM)
how to improve latency? buy better router?

i have 500mbps unifi but sometimes competitive gaming got random lag/ping spike and rubber banding that one why ah?
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Its the performance of the service provider and how they route the traffic. This part you have little control.

Next level is your equiment.

If everything good can even game smoothly at 100mbps or 80 mbps
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post May 28 2025, 12:47 PM

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post May 28 2025, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(R0ADTAX @ May 28 2025, 12:18 PM)
why do u need 800 mbps for?

download 1 tb prono?
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because "want" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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You can see difference if you subscribed to fiber line. smile.gif

Like WiFi, the max speed depends on signal strength and signal quality. If the WiFi can establish max speed at 100Mbps, you can never go higher speed than that even if you subscribed 800Mbps. It is as simple as that. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ May 28 2025, 12:33 PM)
Bingo
You don't want the video streaming suddenly buffering at the most important timearea
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video streaming means upload

who do video stream here. nada. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ May 28 2025, 12:40 PM)
300mbps is good enough for a condo, anything above are extra non utilized anyway
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ur phone need 1gbps, 4k display, true story. laugh.gif
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post May 28 2025, 12:54 PM

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3-5 person on 500 then slow. If solo saja 500 cukup. Lolx

Your usual monthly usage berapa GB?

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800bmps = bragging right. That's it.

No way many will be able to saturate the speed 24 x 7.
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can unker tumpang this tered.

house: Unker, wife and 1 kid

is 200mbps rm99 plan enough?

occasional gaming (CSGO), youtube/netflix
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stop caring about maximum internet speed since 30mbps era because i can wait. only ktard here thinks 100mbps is too slow
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Depends on household devices. If using single device of course no feel different
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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Now u can ask 2 buddy to use your wifi and stream together gather lo
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 01:01 PM)
stop caring about maximum internet speed since 30mbps era because i can wait. only ktard here thinks 100mbps is too slow
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30mbps feels like dial up to me now.
Just to download a small 50GB game would take hours.
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not regret for me, can redownload big game in short time
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100mbps + good router > 800mbps + default & shit router.
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QUOTE(babayagamalaysia @ May 28 2025, 01:00 PM)
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can unker tumpang this tered.

house: Unker, wife and 1 kid

is 200mbps rm99 plan enough?

occasional gaming (CSGO), youtube/netflix
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3 person 200Mbps is good enough.
Unless stream netflix on multiple devices, you need 600Mbps.

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the only thing i can think of to justify bandwidth beyond 100Mbps for average residential use is if you have multiple CCTVs constantly send superhigh bitrate video to the cloud. even if you live with 2-3 people, 100M is sufficient.

If you don't, then high change your smart appliances are excessively phoning HQ, send data, etc.
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ May 28 2025, 01:21 PM)
3 person 200Mbps is good enough.
Unless stream netflix on multiple devices, you need 600Mbps.
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QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ May 28 2025, 01:40 PM)
how to improve latency? buy better router?

i have 500mbps unifi but sometimes competitive gaming got random lag/ping spike and rubber banding that one why ah?
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play on PC via wired or wifi? it's better to play wired for better latency

QUOTE(babayagamalaysia @ May 28 2025, 02:00 PM)
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can unker tumpang this tered.

house: Unker, wife and 1 kid

is 200mbps rm99 plan enough?

occasional gaming (CSGO), youtube/netflix
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should be enough
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i downgraded from 800mbps/1gbps to current 500mbps, dont feel any difference lol
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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I downgrade from 800 to 500 then to 300 now on 100 mbps.I realized that my house dont need 800 mbps to fully functioned, all I need is a good router to handle the traffics. we watch 4K streaming most of the time by the way, once in a while /t/ other than that, well...

like I said before

many ppl very kiamsiap when it comes to good router but can pay expensive monthly subscription for the internet

this, I cannot brain.

it is like paying ron 100 for kancil 660

those telco supplied router are just plain sucks

get the mid tier router from asus, tp-link is better, bigger ram that can handle bigger traffic, better soc. yes bandwidth is way more important than the latest router available in the market

for example

TP-LINK AX73 5400
under rm500

TP-LINK AX 73 AX5400



if u guys on budget, can consider TP-Link Archer AX53 RM only RM200 plus now

Cheap TP-LINK AX53 AX3000

review
https://www.blacktubi.com/review/archer-ax53/



Most of the time I think many subscribers suffer these in silent, but dont know what to do

random disconnects
unstable connections

some of them dont even know their own user id and password, dunno how to access the url, how to change the pwd, how to change router

no thanks to telco that keep giving free sampah router which will degrade fast within a year ngam ngam warranty finish.

why cant they sell better router like what they do with hp? educate lah your subscribers. real pndk these telco. unifi, maxis, time , all the same. real hkc.

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 28 2025, 01:16 PM)
30mbps feels like dial up to me now.
Just to download a small 50GB game would take hours.
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you really sound like you never live in dial-up era.
even on adsl era, you still need to wait hour to download an episode of anime or tv show. no one downloading cd size game during dial up era (thats the reason why pirated game shop thrive during that era). even pokemon gold/silver rom will take more than 10minutes.
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QUOTE(yamin07 @ May 28 2025, 01:19 PM)
100mbps + good router > 800mbps + default & shit router.
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can recommend unker good router?
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QUOTE(R0ADTAX @ May 28 2025, 12:18 PM)
why do u need 800 mbps for?

download 1 tb prono?
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QUOTE(das99990428 @ May 28 2025, 12:20 PM)

well, the higher speed is obviously suitable if more people are using at the same time

imagine 15 people using at the same time, you might feel the difference

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you need a better router with better cpu and ram to handle the traffic



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QUOTE(knwong @ May 28 2025, 12:23 PM)
One of my home is 300 Mbps fibre whereas my mobile's 5G can reach 800Mbps

No difference. I just felt fibre is stable
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non gamers wont feel the difference

the latency is better on fiber. way more stable.
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Yeah no difference, 800 or 1 gig, the minute peak hour all slow
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QUOTE(babayagamalaysia @ May 28 2025, 01:00 PM)
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can unker tumpang this tered.

house: Unker, wife and 1 kid

is 200mbps rm99 plan enough?

occasional gaming (CSGO), youtube/netflix
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the huawei stock router given by time suxx big time

go replace it as soon as possible
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 02:15 PM)
the huawei stock router given by time suxx big time

go replace it as soon as possible
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can suggest unker good router?
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QUOTE(yamin07 @ May 28 2025, 01:19 PM)
100mbps + good router > 800mbps + default & shit router.
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QUOTE(azbro @ May 28 2025, 12:28 PM)
I ragrats

Even pay extra RM10 to get 500mbps, totally unstable and speed most of the time less than my previous 300mbps.

Maxis don't want to change the router also. And the top router also lousy one. Dunno how many years already.
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ May 28 2025, 12:27 PM)
5 person household here
300mbps is slow
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Most of the time I think many subscribers suffer these in silent, but dont know what to do

random disconnects
unstable connections

some of them dont even know their own user id and password, dunno how to access the url, how to change the pwd, how to change router

no thanks to telco that keep giving free sampah router which will degrade fast within a year ngam ngam warranty finish.

why cant they sell better router like what they do with hp? educate lah your subscribers. real pndk these telco. unifi, maxis, time , all the same. real hkc.
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QUOTE(babayagamalaysia @ May 28 2025, 02:16 PM)
can suggest unker good router?
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QUOTE(babayagamalaysia @ May 28 2025, 02:16 PM)
can suggest unker good router?
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Unifi cloud gateway ultra.
Unifi has pretty great routers and access point.
https://techspecs.ui.com/unifi/cloud-gateways/ucg-ultra?s=us
I’m stuck with Asus ecosystem, but if I’ve to begin anew, I’ll go with Unifi routers/AP.

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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
Are there any difference between 300 & 800mbps
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Yes, the difference are 500mbps
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QUOTE(babayagamalaysia @ May 28 2025, 02:16 PM)
can suggest unker good router?
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actually whatever router issued by isp can already be good enough.
if you still facing disconnect, either your devices wifi chip is crap/dont work well with the router or just plain bad signal strength. router chipset manufacturer are either broadcomm, qualcomm, mediatek and intel,not much other vendor lef. compatibility concern should be already been reduced greatly already.
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 28 2025, 02:22 PM)
Unifi cloud gateway ultra.
Unifi has pretty great routers and access point.
https://techspecs.ui.com/unifi/cloud-gateways/ucg-ultra?s=us
I’m stuck with Asus ecosystem, but if I’ve to begin anew, I’ll go with Unifi routers/AP.
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Tenks!

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premium router waste of $ lah

most encountered problem are noobs that connect to 2.4ghz wifi then complain to tm why speedtest cannot reach 100,300,500mbps ... lol
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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if you cant feel the different probably most of your device cant utilise the full speed of 800mbps; bottleneck somewhere hence no different.
I move from 500mbps to 800mbps also can feel the different.

When i download game from Steam/Xbox Game Pass/Torrent the different is so much obvious.



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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 28 2025, 12:18 PM)
For gaming you are looking for latency not bandwidth
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even a 10mbps line with low latency is enough for online gaming

ktards think they downloading 1gb/min worth of data during gaming ka?
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ur phone need 1gbps, 4k display, true story. laugh.gif
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overkill bro, even my office, 50+ people is using 400mbps only.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 02:27 PM)
actually whatever router issued by isp can already be good enough.
if you still facing disconnect, either your devices wifi chip is crap/dont work well with the router or just plain bad signal strength. router chipset manufacturer are either broadcomm, qualcomm, mediatek and intel,not much other vendor lef. compatibility concern should be already been reduced greatly already.
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For me isp issued router is sampah. they really cut cost everything they can; despite technical spec said it is good. Unless it is a branded/official router from manufacturer; and normally they ask us to pay for it as part of the upgrade.

QUOTE(h@ksam @ May 28 2025, 02:49 PM)
even a 10mbps line with low latency is enough for online gaming

ktards think they downloading 1gb/min worth of data during gaming ka?
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wait until u play MFS. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 02:55 PM)
For me isp issued router is sampah. they really cut cost everything they can; despite technical spec said it is good. Unless it is a branded/official router from manufacturer; and normally they ask us to pay for it as part of the upgrade.
wait until u play MFS. laugh.gif
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otherwise I am sure he can push for this
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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 02:55 PM)
For me isp issued router is sampah. they really cut cost everything they can; despite technical spec said it is good. Unless it is a branded/official router from manufacturer; and normally they ask us to pay for it as part of the upgrade.
wait until u play MFS. laugh.gif
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when the last time you test the isp issued router anyway?
this is no longer dir615 era where run connection abit more, web management kaput.

isp also not stupid going to spend cheapest, it will be a tier higher. else they wont go give everyone ax3000 router nowdays, support mesh somemore.

even myself, die hard openwrt users also impressed on the new cheap hardware.
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QUOTE(king_kazma @ May 28 2025, 02:54 PM)
overkill bro, even my office, 50+ people is using 400mbps only.
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QUOTE(h@ksam @ May 28 2025, 02:49 PM)
even a 10mbps line with low latency is enough for online gaming

ktards think they downloading 1gb/min worth of data during gaming ka?
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Minimum recommendation for PS5 is 30mbps la..
10mbps not enough for 4k. Same like netflix, it should be min 25mbps..

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QUOTE(bansheelipsx @ May 28 2025, 02:40 PM)
premium router waste of $ lah

most encountered problem are noobs that connect to 2.4ghz wifi then complain to tm why speedtest cannot reach 100,300,500mbps ... lol
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These days, it’s advisable to combine 2.4, 5 or even 6ghz under the same ssid for MLO.
(Provided both router and device support WiFi 7).
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ayam using 1gbps at home, the only difference is download game faster... the rest cant feel the difference. previously my ofis only 100mbps more than 7 ppl use at the same still smooth.

plan to downgrade eoy once my unifi contract finish since my bro and his wife will move to a new house..just left me and my mom.. dont see how i can fully utilize the 1gbps pun
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 02:59 PM)
when the last time you test the isp issued router anyway?
this is no longer dir615 era where run connection abit more, web management kaput.

isp also not stupid going to spend cheapest, it will be a tier higher. else they wont go give everyone ax3000 router nowdays, support mesh somemore.

even myself, die hard openwrt users also impressed on the new cheap hardware.
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AX3000 got different lah between cheapest and expensive; like coverage, streams and advance features. And ISP is stupid if they are not going to spend the cheapest. They will just give workable router, tahan a bit but they still want untung. My parents house use isp router and i can feel the different compared to mine (coverage & stability). yeah both are 800mbps anyway.
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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 03:17 PM)
AX3000 got different lah between cheapest and expensive; like coverage, streams and advance features. And ISP is stupid if they are not going to spend the cheapest. They will just give workable router, tahan a bit but they still want untung. My parents house use isp router and i can feel the different compared to mine (coverage & stability). yeah both are 800mbps anyway.
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from your word, is not like night and day differences. my parent house is 6000sqft house, guess what that TM branded router covers every area, well not like guaranteed >150mbps on every test, but can still play HD video just fine.

now ISP dont just use the cheapest also you complaining lel.

okay keep on denial ya convince everyone they need to buy after-market router. i think even the like dlink also dont want to bother with b2c model, they rather goes b2b because theres where the money are.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 02:27 PM)
actually whatever router issued by isp can already be good enough.
if you still facing disconnect, either your devices wifi chip is crap/dont work well with the router or just plain bad signal strength. router chipset manufacturer are either broadcomm, qualcomm, mediatek and intel,not much other vendor lef. compatibility concern should be already been reduced greatly already.
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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 03:17 PM)
AX3000 got different lah between cheapest and expensive; like coverage, streams and advance features. And ISP is stupid if they are not going to spend the cheapest. They will just give workable router, tahan a bit but they still want untung. My parents house use isp router and i can feel the different compared to mine (coverage & stability). yeah both are 800mbps anyway.
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indeed

otherwise blacktubi wont be bothered to do comparison on his page

anyway, this router almost rm1K, but the spec is gooding, 2.2GHz + 2GB RAM

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/archer-ge800/



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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 03:27 PM)
from your word, is not like night and day differences. my parent house is 6000sqft house, guess what that TM branded router covers every area, well not like guaranteed  >150mbps on every test, but can still play HD video just fine.

now ISP dont just use the cheapest also you complaining lel.

okay keep on denial ya convince everyone they need to buy after-market router. i think even the like dlink also dont want to bother with b2c model, they rather goes b2b because theres where the money are.
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since when ISP so baik hati dishing out free replacement stock router ( after 2 years ? )

u guys change ISP meh every 2 years?
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 03:28 PM)
indeed

otherwise blacktubi wont be bothered to do comparison on his page

anyway, this router almost rm1K, but the spec is gooding, 2.2GHz + 2GB RAM

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/archer-ge800/


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come ask blacktubi to comment here says everyone need high-end 4x4, SFP port router. /jk
even ISP issued router can be as good as tplink ax53, which is ironically recommended by some ktards.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 03:31 PM)
since when ISP so baik hati dishing out free replacement stock router ( after 2 years ? )

u guys change ISP meh every 2 years?
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re-contract la deiii

just because i preferred my openwrt router doesnt mean i will attack every cheap vendor-locked router out there. good enough mean it is good enough for most users, who cares about the leftover enthusiastic users, they wont be satisfied.
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download steam game cepat
if not that much space boleh uninstall and reinstall easily
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 03:35 PM)
re-contract la deiii

just because i preferred my openwrt router doesnt mean i will attack every cheap vendor-locked router out there. good enough mean it is good enough for most users, who cares about the leftover enthusiastic users, they wont be satisfied.
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my plan is just good enough for now, the current promo plan is way more expensive than the one I have, so no reason for me to re contract

just sharing my experience from the past, mostly stock router are just plain suxx-see how many users in this forum complaint about them

my old ax82u still serve me well

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if u didn't download and mostly streaming. 300 is more than enough already. Streaming on 2-3 devices or 4k on TV also not an issue.
if ur household got more than 6 ppls, maybe only you can feel it. Otherwise 3-5 devices using it at the same time also no problem.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 03:40 PM)
my plan is just good enough for now, the current promo plan is way more expensive than the one I have, so no reason for me to re contract

just sharing my experience from the past, mostly stock router are just plain suxx-see how many users in this forum complaint about them

my old ax82u still serve me well

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and thats why ISP not being too cheap now. too much vocal netizen out there.
so they give us decent good value for money skyworth, dlink, huawei model now. even to the extend of offering FTTR equipment for people who willing to spend.

are we guaranteed that we could be as good as e-sport top rank player out there with the best router, no right? last time i play online game also kena belasah with player higher than 100ms ping.

anyway for people that using old ISP issued router there, not willing to spend their hard earned cash. just freaking re-contract la.

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 03:28 PM)
indeed

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isnt the premium router like 1k++ is only useful if you subscribe to higher speed?

like if the router stated support up to 5-10gb hz etc but if you only subscribe to 100mbps got use meh? or is it because of the router spec like higher ram,bandwith etc make it useful
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are we guaranteed that we could be as good as e-sport top rank player out there with the best router, no right? last time i play online game also kena belasah with player higher than 100ms ping.

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but I know I am getting what I am paying for, rather than suffer in silent, paying expensive monthly so much but kenot enjoy the full speed

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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 03:27 PM)
from your word, is not like night and day differences. my parent house is 6000sqft house, guess what that TM branded router covers every area, well not like guaranteed  >150mbps on every test, but can still play HD video just fine.

now ISP dont just use the cheapest also you complaining lel.

okay keep on denial ya convince everyone they need to buy after-market router. i think even the like dlink also dont want to bother with b2c model, they rather goes b2b because theres where the money are.
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i think u are also in denial.

my mom as average user also complaint not getting stable connection at kitchen area. i dont believe her untill i install cctv at the back and notice while the signal indicator is still strong but stability is gone with noticable lag when remote control the cctv. problem solved after i install wifi extender. dont need the speed but i need stability. obviously my parents house is not as big as urs.

if you think isp router is good enough, then go on.
for my case, it is not. and i can feel the difference after switching into a better router.

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QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ May 28 2025, 03:46 PM)
isnt the premium router like 1k++ is only useful if you subscribe to higher speed?

like if the router stated support up to 5-10gb hz etc but if you only subscribe to 100mbps got use meh? or is it because of the router spec like higher ram,bandwith etc make it useful
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its good if you frequently transfer large file locally. for most internet use, not so much. wait for the like of TM actually change their equipment to 10GPON then the upgrade will make more sense as you can actually get gigabit speed from paid service via cheap internet access.

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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 03:50 PM)
i think u are also in denial.

my mom as average user also complaint not getting stable connection at kitchen area. i dont believe her untill i install cctv at the back and notice while the signal indicator is still strong but stability is gone with noticable lag when remote control the cctv. problem solved after i install wifi extender. dont need the speed but i need stability. obviously my parents house is not as big as urs.

if you think isp router is good enough, then go on.
for my case, it is not. and i can feel the difference after switching into a better router.
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not u aaa in denial?
whats your mum router model aaa? you dont expect 10 years equipment to be as good as modern equipment. if you ask me 10 years before of course la will say use your own router, now situation changed already.

have you question why many people keep using their ISP issued router? they really love problem here and there aa? alot of people are actually satisfied with their equipment la deiii.
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but it is very nice to download apple update at 990 mbps

ps5 i dont need to upgrade storage because i can play, delete and download again within 20 minutes
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QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ May 28 2025, 03:46 PM)
isnt the premium router like 1k++ is only useful if you subscribe to higher speed?

like if the router stated support up to 5-10gb hz etc but if you only subscribe to 100mbps got use meh? or is it because of the router spec like higher ram,bandwith etc make it useful
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yeah. for me only usefull when subscribe to higher speed.
500mbps using isp router is still ok. but i notice ive got bottleneck with upgrading to 800mbps and not getting the speed i paid for until i switch with better router.

QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 03:48 PM)
but I know I am getting what I am paying for, rather than suffer in silent, paying expensive monthly so much but kenot enjoy the full speed

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have you question why many people keep using their ISP issued router? they really love problem here and there aa? alot of people are actually satisfied with their equipment la deiii.

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like I said before lah

based on what I see, hear, even in this forum, most of the time I think many subscribers suffer these in silent, but dont know what to do

-random disconnects
-unstable connections

some of them dont even know their own user id and password, dunno how to access the url, how to change the pwd, how to change or do the setup on router

why cant they sell better router like what they do with hp? educate lah your subscribers. real pndk these telco. unifi, maxis, time , all the same. real hkc.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 03:54 PM)
not u aaa in denial?
whats your mum router model aaa? you dont expect 10 years equipment to be as good as modern equipment. if you ask me 10 years before of course la will say use your own router, now situation changed already.

have you question why many people keep using their ISP issued router? they really love problem here and there aa? alot of people are actually satisfied with their equipment la deiii.
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apooo cerita pasal router 10 years ago. 10 years ago mana ada isp offer 800mbps for consumer.
you upgrade package to 800mbps unifi will provide new router with 4 antena tu lah. shakehead.gif

bro, i talk about 800mbps bro. if you are using lower than that the isp issued router is good enough.
i have been saying that i feel the different upgrading the speed from 500mbps to 800mbps after i switch to better router.

also just because people are actually satisfied with the router, doesnt mean 100% of them are satisfied.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 04:04 PM)
like I said before lah

based on what I see, hear, even in this forum, most of the time I think many subscribers suffer these in silent, but dont know what to do

-random disconnects
-unstable connections

some of them dont even know their own user id and password, dunno how to access the url, how to change the pwd, how to change or do the setup on router

why cant they sell better router like what they do with hp? educate lah your subscribers. real pndk these telco. unifi, maxis, time , all the same. real hkc.
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i downgraded from unifi 800 mbps to 500 mbps last year 2024, when i first subscribed to the 800 mbps unifi like 10 years ago, they gave me a shitty stock router that always disconnect when theres alot of devices connected, and gave me a shit router that cannot fully use the 800 mbps speed, my download speed was trash and never hit the 800 mbps i signed up for

then when i downgraded to 500mbps last year, unifi came to change my routers to a better one and gave me 2 APs, 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs, and now the connection is alot more stable than the router TM gave me 10 years ago
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 04:04 PM)
like I said before lah

based on what I see, hear, even in this forum, most of the time I think many subscribers suffer these in silent, but dont know what to do

-random disconnects
-unstable connections

some of them dont even know their own user id and password, dunno how to access the url, how to change the pwd, how to change or do the setup on router

why cant they sell better router like what they do with hp? educate lah your subscribers. real pndk these telco. unifi, maxis, time , all the same. real hkc.
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ISP already offer better equipment with subscription to the customer that needs it.

people with the problems always the vocal one, the one that is okay/satisfied, diam diam saja.

alot of time people said problem,buffering here and there, slow download speed, but when i ask what kind of resource they are using, they refused to provide. so its make wonder, it is actually the problem with their equipment, ISP or problem with their fishy websites.

i for example admit use pirated content all the time, but many of the forumer here malu2 dont want to admit as people will judge badly on them.
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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 04:09 PM)
apooo cerita pasal router 10 years ago. 10 years ago mana ada isp offer 800mbps for consumer.
you upgrade package to 800mbps unifi will provide new router with 4 antena tu lah.  shakehead.gif

bro, i talk about 800mbps bro. if you are using lower than that the isp issued router is good enough.
i have been saying that i feel the different upgrading the speed from 500mbps to 800mbps after i switch to better router.

also just because people are actually satisfied with the router, doesnt mean 100% of them are satisfied.
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unifi sudah ada 800 mbps 10 years ago la, it was around RM300++
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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 04:09 PM)
apooo cerita pasal router 10 years ago. 10 years ago mana ada isp offer 800mbps for consumer.
you upgrade package to 800mbps unifi will provide new router with 4 antena tu lah.  shakehead.gif

bro, i talk about 800mbps bro. if you are using lower than that the isp issued router is good enough.
i have been saying that i feel the different upgrading the speed from 500mbps to 800mbps after i switch to better router.

also just because people are actually satisfied with the router, doesnt mean 100% of them are satisfied.
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cerita panjang tak guna, apa router model your parents use?

they way you sound, you are tried so hard to justified your expensive purchase. even if the router does limit to 500mbps wireless, it is still freaking usable for most use case.
okay good, now you admit is good enough. next.

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 04:04 PM)
like I said before lah

based on what I see, hear, even in this forum, most of the time I think many subscribers suffer these in silent, but dont know what to do

-random disconnects
-unstable connections

some of them dont even know their own user id and password, dunno how to access the url, how to change the pwd, how to change or do the setup on router

why cant they sell better router like what they do with hp? educate lah your subscribers. real pndk these telco. unifi, maxis, time , all the same. real hkc.
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+ wifi signal interfere with neighbors's wifi especially when living in high dense kondo.
better router can manage wifi signal effectively to avoid inteference.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:11 PM)

ISP already offer better equipment with subscription to the customer that needs it.

people with the problems always the vocal one, the one that is okay/satisfied, diam diam saja.

alot of time people said problem,buffering here and there, slow download speed,  but when i ask what kind of resource they are using, they refused to provide. so its make wonder, it is actually the problem with their equipment, ISP or problem with their fishy websites.

i for example admit use pirated content all the time, but many of the forumer here malu2 dont want to admit as people will judge badly on them.

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most ppl dont even know what kind of router that they have. heck, they dont even know ( or not bother to know ) whether their handphone support wifi 7 but die die need to upgrade to wifi 7 ( just because the ad says so )
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:14 PM)
cerita panjang tak guna, apa router model your parents use?

they way you sound, you are tried so hard to justified your expensive purchase. even if the router does limit to 500mbps wireless, it is still freaking usable for most use case.
okay good, now you admit is good enough. next.
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i paid for 800mbps, why should i satisfied with 500mbps?
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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 04:17 PM)
i paid for 800mbps, why should i satisfied with 500mbps?
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and whats make you think the current ISP issued ax3000 router cant provide 800mbps via wireless?
my parents also use 800mbps package la, bammm 800mbps speed test, but within 10meter from the router la. laugh.gif skyworth or fiberhome brand, i dunno cant remember. the previous were ax1800 fiberhome brand, 500mbps is easy there.

my father got ax3000 router from TM also because of the recent speed upgrade exercise, changed for free because the previous router are deemed not good by the ISP.\

here the speedtest with TM D-Link DPN-FX3060V combo router


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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:20 PM)
and whats make you think the current ISP issued ax3000 router cant provide 800mbps via wireless?
my parents also use 800mbps package la, bammm 800mbps speed test, but within 10meter from the router la.  laugh.gif skyworth or fiberhome brand, i dunno cant remember. the previous were ax1800 fiberhome brand, 500mbps is easy there.

my father got ax3000 router from TM also because of the recent speed upgrade exercise, changed for free because the previous router are deemed not good by the ISP.\

here the speedtest with TM D-Link DPN-FX3060V combo router

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I think both can be right at the same time.
This really depends on interference (how many neighbours you have) too.

At my in laws where their neighbours are a significant distant away, a cheap router can sustain 200-300mbps for an 300mbps plan even from 20-30 meters away.

At my place, being in a different room would cut my speed by half due to the amount of interference from neighbours in all direction. Selecting specific band doesn’t work when there are 40+ SSID broadcasting, saturating every channel.
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 28 2025, 04:40 PM)
I think both can be right at the same time.
This really depends on interference (how many neighbours you have) too.

At my in laws where their neighbours are a significant distant away, a cheap router can sustain 200-300mbps for an 300mbps plan even from 20-30 meters away.

At my place, being in a different room would cut my speed by half due to the amount of interference from neighbours in all direction. Selecting specific band doesn’t work when there are 40+ SSID broadcasting, saturating every channel.
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not to mentioned thick walls, etc
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:20 PM)
and whats make you think the current ISP issued ax3000 router cant provide 800mbps via wireless?
my parents also use 800mbps package la, bammm 800mbps speed test, but within 10meter from the router la.  laugh.gif skyworth or fiberhome brand, i dunno cant remember. the previous were ax1800 fiberhome brand, 500mbps is easy there.
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if you are staying in condo with shear wall, you will have problem with coverage & stability. shear wall can easily intefere the wifi signal.
to overcome this, isp recommend mesh wifi. however backhaul for normal mesh wifi is shared hence bottleneck. when i was using 500mbps, this is not an issue until i upgrade to 800mbps. i just cant get the speed when using wifi. no issue with cable.

i switch to mesh router with wifi 7 and it solve the problem. my pc is wifi 7 as well.
normal user wont feel the different la cos most devices are still not utilising wifi 7.
btw speedtest with my phone shows different results too. before around 400+mbps. after 600+mbps.

if not using 800mbps, no need la invest new router.

Unifi still provide router with wifi 6. i think only Time give router with wifi 7.
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 28 2025, 04:40 PM)
I think both can be right at the same time.
This really depends on interference (how many neighbours you have) too.

At my in laws where their neighbours are a significant distant away, a cheap router can sustain 200-300mbps for an 300mbps plan even from 20-30 meters away.

At my place, being in a different room would cut my speed by half due to the amount of interference from neighbours in all direction. Selecting specific band doesn’t work when there are 40+ SSID broadcasting, saturating every channel.
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usually interference dont applies much on landed area.
my house area all sort of people use 5ghz band, but still manage to get what the router could provide. alot of time it just some users forced to use 2.4ghz band hence faced badly with interference issues. it didnt help when alot of iot devices are limited to 2.4ghz band.
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QUOTE(death_nite @ May 28 2025, 04:45 PM)
if you are staying in condo with shear wall, you will have problem with coverage & stability. shear wall can easily intefere the wifi signal.
to overcome this, isp recommend mesh wifi. however backhaul for normal mesh wifi is shared hence bottleneck. when i was using 500mbps, this is not an issue until i upgrade to 800mbps. i just cant get the speed when using wifi. no issue with cable.

i switch to mesh router with wifi 7 and it solve the problem. my pc is wifi 7 as well.
normal user wont feel the different la cos most devices are still not utilising wifi 7.
btw speedtest with my phone shows different results too. before around 400+mbps. after 600+mbps.

if not using 800mbps, no need la invest new router.

Unifi still provide router with wifi 6. i think only Time give router with wifi 7.
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again not everyone need maximum speed on all their room.
if you want the maxmum speed, get close to the router, for other stuff, mehhh not much a concern, 20mbps can still play 1080p video.

recommending after-market stuff for people that really doesnt need it is silly. i only recommend people getting aftermarket stuff if they need extra feature like SMB server, torrent client or needing fast or extra network ports for all their clients (newer router provide 2.5/5/10gbps port)

also i need to tell you that TM ax3000 my parents house use actually having better coverage and better performance than my old rusty tplink c2600(with more sensitive 4x4 antenna).i recall that i could get around ~750mbps outside of the house too.

anyway my point is ISP issued devices have gone long way, dont discounting them. own router is good to have but hardly a necessities nowadays, thats why if you go sri IT or viewnet hardly people go to network equipment section because public dont find they needing it.

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I'm using Unifi 800 Mbps.. It depends how many is using the internet in your house.. In my house, there are 4 users and my brother and I are heavy users for PC and PS5 gaming

800 Mbps also slow for me
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 28 2025, 04:44 PM)
not to mentioned thick walls, etc
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Thick plywood/hollow walls don't count tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 28 2025, 04:20 PM)
and whats make you think the current ISP issued ax3000 router cant provide 800mbps via wireless?
my parents also use 800mbps package la, bammm 800mbps speed test, but within 10meter from the router la.  laugh.gif skyworth or fiberhome brand, i dunno cant remember. the previous were ax1800 fiberhome brand, 500mbps is easy there.

my father got ax3000 router from TM also because of the recent speed upgrade exercise, changed for free because the previous router are deemed not good by the ISP.\

here the speedtest with TM D-Link DPN-FX3060V combo router

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In densly populated area, having lots of personal wifi networks causes interference or collisions.
Performance can degrade.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 28 2025, 06:40 PM)
In densly populated area, having lots of personal wifi networks causes interference or collisions.
Performance can degrade.
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5ghz coverage are smaller, less chance for collision.
also aftermarket router are not immune of this collision situation, the only thing it could help were intelligently select less dense wifi channel or bonding more channel so that the network will have more bandwidth for those network(more time allocation for node that demands for it) or the usage of 6ghz band.

anyway you are right, want to have better wifi, dont live in dense area laugh.gif
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ May 28 2025, 05:03 PM)
I'm using Unifi 800 Mbps.. It depends how many is using the internet in your house.. In my house, there are 4 users and my brother and I are heavy users for PC and PS5 gaming

800 Mbps also slow for me
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Likely is your router/switch/access point the 3 in one junk cannot handle it eh. Use enterprise router, ubiquity Aruba tplink omada, I have 30-40 iot devices connected no issues
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ May 27 2025, 08:27 PM)
5 person household here
300mbps is slow
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this is the reason the need of using 500mbps+ , American already 1gbps+ hmm cool2.gif
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QUOTE(jangyelo @ May 28 2025, 12:19 PM)
Difference is 500mbps
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the stock routers have small heat sinks .may hang under 500mbps download for longer time.
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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Do u have a modem that support WiFi 6?
Do a speed test.
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ May 28 2025, 12:27 PM)
5 person household here
300mbps is slow
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QUOTE(EncikSejati @ May 28 2025, 08:16 PM)
this is the reason the need of using 500mbps+ , American already 1gbps+ hmm cool2.gif
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No, get 2 router, split the speed if u have few floors.

Solve latency and slowness
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high speed internet to cater your download/upload.

if gaming or streaming, 100mbps is more than enough. unless you got many user connecting and all of them streaming 4k video, then go for 300~500.
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QUOTE(EncikSejati @ May 28 2025, 08:16 PM)
this is the reason the need of using 500mbps+ , American already 1gbps+ hmm cool2.gif
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why so far one? SG offer this , 10gbps for $30

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why so far one? SG offer this , 10gbps for $30

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The gap is HUGE wth. We're really falling behind huh.

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The gap is HUGE wth. We're really falling behind huh.
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 05:16 AM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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Not much difference. But I only have 3 users in the house.

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QUOTE(R0ADTAX @ May 28 2025, 12:18 PM)
why do u need 800 mbps for?

download 1 tb prono?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111673444
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QUOTE(siren @ May 28 2025, 12:16 PM)
I used to subscribed to 800 mbps Celcom WiFi package.

Previously, I subscribed to 300 mbps package.

However, I don't see any difference at all. Gaming, stream porn, Youtube, Tiktok, live stream all can be done over 300 mbps and it is smooth.

Anyone regretted subscribing to 500 or 800 package where 300 mbps can do the job?
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ya regret for going to 500mbps macam takde beza. now waiting for contract ends to donwgrade
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QUOTE(EncikSejati @ May 28 2025, 08:16 PM)
this is the reason the need of using 500mbps+ , American already 1gbps+ hmm cool2.gif
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request to upgrade speed, but tmnut said my area max can go 300mpbs only
dunno fiber optic got limitation too
or maybe tmnut kincing sama saya

 

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