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post May 28 2025, 11:02 AM, updated 7 months ago

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The sudden enforcement drive, under the newly released Stamp Duty Audit Framework effective Jan 1, 2025, raises a fundamental question of fairness and principle.

The Inland Revenue Board’s (IRB) recent focus on unstamped employment letters, service contracts, and other instruments has caused understandable alarm among employers across Malaysia.

What many are only now discovering is that the legal obligation to stamp these documents has existed since the Stamp Act 1949 – a statute that turns 75 this year.

The sudden enforcement drive, under the newly released Stamp Duty Audit Framework effective Jan 1, 2025, raises a fundamental question of fairness and principle: Can a law that was dormant for decades suddenly be brought to life, with penalties imposed on businesses that have long followed an unofficial industry norm?

A legacy of lax enforcement

For over half a century, the IRB rarely enforced the stamping of employment contracts or service agreements with periodic payments. Companies – large and small – operated under the reasonable assumption that such documents were not subject to stamping, or that even if they were, it wasn’t practically required.

This long period of non-enforcement effectively shaped market behaviour. Employers routinely issued letters of appointment, fixed-term contracts, and professional engagement agreements without stamping, and the IRB neither objected nor intervened.

The role of legitimate expectation

In public law, the concept of legitimate expectation arises when a public authority acts consistently over time, and individuals or entities rely on that conduct to guide their decisions.

Many taxpayers now argue that IRB’s decades-long silence constituted an implicit assurance – that unstamped employment documents were acceptable. And thus, they say, the IRB should not now impose penalties or retroactively enforce duties that were never seriously applied before.

But here lies the legal reality: while legitimate expectation is recognised in Malaysian administrative law, it cannot override express statutory obligations. The courts have consistently ruled that a taxpayer cannot rely on past lax enforcement to avoid current legal duties,especially where the law itself is clear.

So, while legitimate expectation may support an argument for fairness, grace periods, or waiver of penalties, it will not succeed as a full defence against the requirement to pay stamp duty.

A fairer way forward

The IRB is not wrong to enforce the law. But fairness demands that enforcement be proportionate and forward-looking, not punitive for past inaction that it tacitly allowed. Employers are now in a compliance bind: penalised for something they were never previously warned or reminded about.

To move forward constructively, the following approach is advisable:

1. Review all contracts – particularly employment letters, fixed-term service agreements, and any instrument involving reward payments.

2. Identify instruments that should have been stamped, especially those executed within the past three years as these are within audit range as indicated in the Audit Framework.

3. Voluntarily stamp those documents, where possible, to avoid penalties under audit.

4. Adopt a proactive stamping policy moving forward, making it part of your standard HR or legal process.

5. Engage with the IRB, where audited, to seek mitigation – citing widespread historical practice, absence of past guidance, and willingness to comply moving forward.

You may wish to wait for IRB’s decision on an amnesty period during which they may not impose any late stamping penalty.

Final thoughts

This is not merely a compliance issue. It’s a reflection of how tax enforcement must evolve -with transparency, predictability, and fairness. When a law has been neglected in enforcement for 75 years, it is not just a taxpayer oversight — it is a systemic policy failure.

The solution lies not in finger-pointing, but in balancing legal enforcement with administrative justice. Employers deserve clarity. And tax authorities owe it to the business community to enforce the law not just strictly, but sensibly.



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post May 28 2025, 11:08 AM

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now who got time go buy LHDN stamp, all online already pun still malas biggrin.gif
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post May 28 2025, 11:10 AM

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Now hiring workers also need stamp duty.
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rindu zaman BN.. dont have all this shiat.. now madanon mcm2 also come out
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post May 28 2025, 11:15 AM

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stamping now all online liao
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post May 28 2025, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ May 28 2025, 11:12 AM)
rindu zaman BN.. dont have all this shiat.. now madanon mcm2 also come out
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post May 28 2025, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ May 28 2025, 11:08 AM)
now who got time go buy LHDN stamp, all online already pun still malas biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 28 2025, 11:15 AM)
stamping now all online liao
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Obv you guys aren't business owners.

All these while contracts are signed hardcopies that are kept in secured filing cabinets. Suddenly with this stupid ruling, you as a business owner need to start scanning 50 to 100 copies of contracts, some contracts are 4 pages to 5 pages thick. U ever try scanning documents and digitalizing it? It's not easy then upload them into lhdn one by one and have to pay penalty. 100x100 myr it's already 10k.

Haven't calculated the money spend on stupid e invoice system? That's what happened to my friend's auntie who owns her own hotel.

Yeah this shit is killing smes.

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post May 28 2025, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 28 2025, 11:24 AM)
Obv you guys aren't business owners.

All these while contracts are signed hardcopies that are kept in secured filing cabinets. Suddenly with this stupid ruling, you as a business owner need to start scanning 50 to 100 copies of contracts, some contracts are 4 pages to 5 pages thick. U ever try scanning documents and digitalizing it? It's not easy then upload them into lhdn one by one and have to pay penalty. 100x100 myr it's already 10k.

Haven't calculated the money spend on stupid e invoice system? That's what happened to my friend's auntie who owns her own hotel.

Yeah this shit is killing smes.
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If one companies got 1000 employees. Need to upload employment letter 1000 times?
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QUOTE(Srbn @ May 28 2025, 11:35 AM)
If one companies got 1000 employees. Need to upload employment letter 1000 times?
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Now u know. Or go lhdn? With 1000 contracts? Lhdn got the manpower to process this manually?

Who the fuck started enforcing this stupid law?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 28 2025, 11:24 AM)
Obv you guys aren't business owners.

All these while contracts are signed hardcopies that are kept in secured filing cabinets. Suddenly with this stupid ruling, you as a business owner need to start scanning 50 to 100 copies of contracts, some contracts are 4 pages to 5 pages thick. U ever try scanning documents and digitalizing it? It's not easy then upload them into lhdn one by one and have to pay penalty. 100x100 myr it's already 10k.

Haven't calculated the money spend on stupid e invoice system? That's what happened to my friend's auntie who owns her own hotel.

Yeah this shit is killing smes.
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15 years in business .. never did any so called "contracts", in my business is Quotation, Invoice, Purchase Orders and Money In-Out .. I dont care about government and their stupid rules laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 28 2025, 11:24 AM)
Obv you guys aren't business owners.

All these while contracts are signed hardcopies that are kept in secured filing cabinets. Suddenly with this stupid ruling, you as a business owner need to start scanning 50 to 100 copies of contracts, some contracts are 4 pages to 5 pages thick. U ever try scanning documents and digitalizing it? It's not easy then upload them into lhdn one by one and have to pay penalty. 100x100 myr it's already 10k.

Haven't calculated the money spend on stupid e invoice system? That's what happened to my friend's auntie who owns her own hotel.

Yeah this shit is killing smes.
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my boss has 100+ properties and about 100+ rental agreement, has to hire a staff just to do all this.

Yes i have to agree this LHDN is imposing shit lots of work just for the sake of digitalization, even the town council and and land office also did the same thing. Government reduce work on their own, end up business owner work is increasing.

QUOTE(Srbn @ May 28 2025, 11:35 AM)
If one companies got 1000 employees. Need to upload employment letter 1000 times?
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Employees under contract only need
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QUOTE(Srbn @ May 28 2025, 04:02 AM)
The sudden enforcement drive, under the newly released Stamp Duty Audit Framework effective Jan 1, 2025, raises a fundamental question of fairness and principle.

The Inland Revenue Board’s (IRB) recent focus on unstamped employment letters, service contracts, and other instruments has caused understandable alarm among employers across Malaysia.

What many are only now discovering is that the legal obligation to stamp these documents has existed since the Stamp Act 1949 – a statute that turns 75 this year.
One of the many consequences of Zero GST. Since the majority has voted for Zero GST, shut up and pay up.

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post May 28 2025, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 28 2025, 11:49 AM)
my boss has 100+ properties and about 100+ rental agreement, has to hire a staff just to do all this.

Yes i have to agree this LHDN is imposing shit lots of work just for the sake of digitalization, even the town council and and land office also did the same thing. Government reduce work on their own, end up business owner work is increasing.
Employees under contract only need
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 28 2025, 11:24 AM)
Obv you guys aren't business owners.

All these while contracts are signed hardcopies that are kept in secured filing cabinets. Suddenly with this stupid ruling, you as a business owner need to start scanning 50 to 100 copies of contracts, some contracts are 4 pages to 5 pages thick. U ever try scanning documents and digitalizing it? It's not easy then upload them into lhdn one by one and have to pay penalty. 100x100 myr it's already 10k.

Haven't calculated the money spend on stupid e invoice system? That's what happened to my friend's auntie who owns her own hotel.

Yeah this shit is killing smes.
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i've submitted documents for stamp duty before, they just need cover, page, parties, price/value, date of agreement and signatories. don't need the entire contract.
but yeah, generally since already scanning the doc, might as well scan the entire thing.

and i use this
https://www.hp.com/my-en/shop/hp-scanjet-pr...ner-6fw06a.html
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Stamping brpa right now
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tldr summary plse
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post May 28 2025, 12:46 PM

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Gov need money to feed the poor
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post May 28 2025, 01:05 PM

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any summary..?
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ May 28 2025, 11:44 AM)
15 years in business .. never did any so called "contracts", in my business is Quotation, Invoice, Purchase Orders and Money In-Out .. I dont care about government and their stupid rules  laugh.gif
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You outsource all your workers, not a single employment under contract? Admin also don't have?
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People digitalize to make things easier.

This bmx digitalize to make life harder and do rat hunt on u if u step on his tail
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 28 2025, 12:29 PM)
i've submitted documents for stamp duty before, they just need cover, page, parties, price/value, date of agreement and signatories. don't need the entire contract.
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What's to prevent people from using the submitted covering page and the signed page but change the clauses in between when it comes to disputes?

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QUOTE(ray123 @ May 28 2025, 01:16 PM)
What's to prevent people from using the submitted covering page and the signed page but change the clauses in between when it comes to disputes?
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I dunno lol

They have a file size limitations, my contracts are never full copies when getting stamped.

Maybe they at why there's always a copy of the contract for each party of the agreement.
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QUOTE(kamfoo @ May 28 2025, 01:05 PM)
any summary..?
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basically andrew ewe , a fellow of CITM say that last time lhdn are okay with unpaid stamp duty contract , now lhdn on the wild hunt / wolf prowl mental by auditing to catch anyone who did not pay their stamp duty , this raise a big question why after few decade then lhdn suddenly go beast mode ? this create not fair to the market and so on.
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QUOTE(Chowda @ May 28 2025, 01:10 PM)
You outsource all your workers, not a single employment under contract? Admin also don't have?
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all my workers are foreigners except 2 only Malaysian in the office .. I dont put any contracts, all direct appointed smile.gif
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 28 2025, 11:24 AM)
Obv you guys aren't business owners.

All these while contracts are signed hardcopies that are kept in secured filing cabinets. Suddenly with this stupid ruling, you as a business owner need to start scanning 50 to 100 copies of contracts, some contracts are 4 pages to 5 pages thick. U ever try scanning documents and digitalizing it? It's not easy then upload them into lhdn one by one and have to pay penalty. 100x100 myr it's already 10k.

Haven't calculated the money spend on stupid e invoice system? That's what happened to my friend's auntie who owns her own hotel.

Yeah this shit is killing smes.
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Got 100 employees. Extra 10k expense for 100 person company is killing your business. Means your business was on the edge of bankruptcy with such thin margin all this while.
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QUOTE(Srbn @ May 28 2025, 11:35 AM)
If one companies got 1000 employees. Need to upload employment letter 1000 times?
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1000 employee company is not a mom and pop operation anymore. They should have a process to handle this.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 28 2025, 05:51 PM)
Got 100 employees. Extra 10k expense for 100 person company is killing your business. Means your business was on the edge of bankruptcy with such thin margin all this while.
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RM10k is less 1 family holiday. Maybe this is the flaw in "let some people get rich first"?
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RM10k is less 1 family holiday. Maybe this is the flaw in "let some people get rich first"?
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Rich people get Optimus caregiver first. Than Dage will come make it cheap for everyone.
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Rich people get Optimus caregiver first. Than Dage will come make it cheap for everyone.
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Aiya. Should have used "not competitive" argument.
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Soon all invoices also need stamping
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Funny thing is for loan contracts, if the loan is in MYR, the stamp duty payable is at 1% of loan value, but if it is in foreign currency, it's at RM1000 flat rate (could be RM2K, not sure which one ady). If loan is RM20mil, borrower is facing stamp duty of RM200K.

So what business do is to request the bank for a foreign currency loan but also do a currency swap agreement at the same time to swap the foreign currency to MYR, thereby saving huge amount of stamp duty. Never ever do a pure RM loan.

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ May 28 2025, 06:31 PM)
Soon all invoices also need stamping
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 28 2025, 11:24 AM)
Obv you guys aren't business owners.

All these while contracts are signed hardcopies that are kept in secured filing cabinets. Suddenly with this stupid ruling, you as a business owner need to start scanning 50 to 100 copies of contracts, some contracts are 4 pages to 5 pages thick. U ever try scanning documents and digitalizing it? It's not easy then upload them into lhdn one by one and have to pay penalty. 100x100 myr it's already 10k.

Haven't calculated the money spend on stupid e invoice system? That's what happened to my friend's auntie who owns her own hotel.

Yeah this shit is killing smes.
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Yea don't get me started with einvoice jeez
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ May 28 2025, 11:44 AM)
15 years in business .. never did any so called "contracts", in my business is Quotation, Invoice, Purchase Orders and Money In-Out .. I dont care about government and their stupid rules  laugh.gif
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They themselves are not organized, no transparency, but kepochi want to micromanage everyone else.
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QUOTE(coconutxyz @ May 28 2025, 07:21 PM)
Yea don't get me started with einvoice jeez
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Same. I will delay until Anwar makes his mind up
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stop giving madanon ideas
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already got topic here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5524656
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QUOTE(hirano @ May 28 2025, 09:21 PM)
it's too serious for me. i like this thread better laugh.gif

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