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post Jun 11 2025, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 11 2025, 02:26 PM)
Our front 3 xG - actual goal score = -6.3, this showing how bad our front 3 are.

And Bruno has the worst shooting on target %, per game he trigger 2.78 shots and the on target rate was 27%.

We should have limit his license to shoot

and worst of all, no single player score double digit for league game, this is the reason we are focus on buying attacking players who can score at least 15 goals.

When I look at other team’s stats, the bad season for Haaland also get break even 0 xG - actual goal.
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One of strong point for bruno is shooting outside of the box. If we limit that, we going to have lesser goal contribution from him while we already at lowest possition situation.
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jun 11 2025, 09:02 PM)
So no more incoming?
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QUOTE(direct707 @ Jun 11 2025, 09:18 PM)
One of strong point for bruno is shooting outside of the box. If we limit that, we going to have lesser goal contribution from him while we already at lowest possition situation.
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Strong? Later I give full stats on that and you will surprise
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 11 2025, 10:04 PM)
Window is closed after today until club wc
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Manchester United have signed talented CB, Harley Emsden-James from Southampton's academy.

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post Jun 12 2025, 09:31 AM

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Cunha confirm coming rite? Mbeumo? Bid accepted? If we get gyokeres as well, i guess coming season will be make a break for amorim
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post Jun 12 2025, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jun 12 2025, 09:31 AM)
Cunha confirm coming rite? Mbeumo? Bid accepted? If we get gyokeres as well, i guess coming season will be make a break for amorim
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Cunha is done deal, even official tease his signing

Mbeumo, first bid 55+10 got rejected and then no more news. Usually we will proceed with 60+10 but we didn't, guess we dont have that money to burn

Gyokeres, his situation a bit complicated, there's a gentleman agreement he could leave for 55-60M this summer but Sporting Lisbon boss said no, so situation become intense between 2 parties, Gyokeres removes bio as sporting player in his IG, on strike but Sporting boss dont give a damn. He is kinda stupid and believe all this gentlemen agreement shiat unlike Cunha where he agree the release price with Wolves and straight renew contract and put that clause in

Another target is Osimhen, the fella reject Saudi big fat super contract and want stay in Euro, Napoli wants Zirkzee + cash for Osimhen.

But for any of the above deal happened, we need to sell, if not the situation will keep on dragging until no ending.



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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 12 2025, 09:45 AM)
Cunha is done deal, even official tease his signing

Mbeumo, first bid 55+10 got rejected and then no more news. Usually we will proceed with 60+10 but we didn't, guess we dont have that money to burn

Gyokeres, his situation a bit complicated, there's a gentleman agreement he could leave for 55-60M this summer but Sporting Lisbon boss said no, so situation become intense between 2 parties, Gyokeres removes bio as sporting player in his IG, on strike but Sporting boss dont give a damn. He is kinda stupid and believe all this gentlemen agreement shiat unlike Cunha where he agree the release price with Wolves and straight renew contract and put that clause in

Another target is Osimhen, the fella reject Saudi big fat super contract and want stay in Euro, Napoli wants Zirkzee + cash for Osimhen.

But for any of the above deal happened, we need to sell, if not the situation will keep on dragging until no ending.
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osimhen how good is he with the attitude problem.... probably need a big money wages too w chelsea his likely destination.. we dont have money and dont have euro.. haha
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 12 2025, 09:45 AM)
Cunha is done deal, even official tease his signing

Mbeumo, first bid 55+10 got rejected and then no more news. Usually we will proceed with 60+10 but we didn't, guess we dont have that money to burn

Gyokeres, his situation a bit complicated, there's a gentleman agreement he could leave for 55-60M this summer but Sporting Lisbon boss said no, so situation become intense between 2 parties, Gyokeres removes bio as sporting player in his IG, on strike but Sporting boss dont give a damn. He is kinda stupid and believe all this gentlemen agreement shiat unlike Cunha where he agree the release price with Wolves and straight renew contract and put that clause in

Another target is Osimhen, the fella reject Saudi big fat super contract and want stay in Euro, Napoli wants Zirkzee + cash for Osimhen.

But for any of the above deal happened, we need to sell, if not the situation will keep on dragging until no ending.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 12 2025, 10:28 AM)
osimhen how good is he with the attitude problem.... probably need a big money wages too w chelsea his likely destination.. we dont have money and dont have euro.. haha
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Not sure why but i never rate osimhen
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post Jun 12 2025, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 12 2025, 09:45 AM)
Cunha is done deal, even official tease his signing

Mbeumo, first bid 55+10 got rejected and then no more news. Usually we will proceed with 60+10 but we didn't, guess we dont have that money to burn

Gyokeres, his situation a bit complicated, there's a gentleman agreement he could leave for 55-60M this summer but Sporting Lisbon boss said no, so situation become intense between 2 parties, Gyokeres removes bio as sporting player in his IG, on strike but Sporting boss dont give a damn. He is kinda stupid and believe all this gentlemen agreement shiat unlike Cunha where he agree the release price with Wolves and straight renew contract and put that clause in

Another target is Osimhen, the fella reject Saudi big fat super contract and want stay in Euro, Napoli wants Zirkzee + cash for Osimhen.

But for any of the above deal happened, we need to sell, if not the situation will keep on dragging until no ending.
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Kesian Gyokeres, I willing to bet that the reason why Sporting boss backtrack on the gentleman agreement is due to our interest on him.

Even Mbeumo also same...

At this rate, might as well just find other cheaper alternatives.

We can't let those club water fish us anymore just because is us.

With his unreasonable demand, Osimhen can just rot at Napoli.
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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Jun 12 2025, 10:57 AM)
Kesian Gyokeres, I willing to bet that the reason why Sporting boss backtrack on the gentleman agreement is due to our interest on him.

Even Mbeumo also same...

At this rate, might as well just find other cheaper alternatives.

We can't let those club water fish us anymore just because is us.

With his unreasonable demand, Osimhen can just rot at Napoli.
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if these two targets are not moving, then we can focus on clearing out. without euro games we can survive with thin squad with some players from youth team instead of bloated team
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jun 12 2025, 09:31 AM)
Cunha confirm coming rite? Mbeumo? Bid accepted? If we get gyokeres as well, i guess coming season will be make a break for amorim
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There is optimistic when Hojlund zirkee joined. Then play like shit.

No feel already with all this incoming
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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Jun 12 2025, 10:57 AM)
Kesian Gyokeres, I willing to bet that the reason why Sporting boss backtrack on the gentleman agreement is due to our interest on him.

Even Mbeumo also same...

At this rate, might as well just find other cheaper alternatives.

We can't let those club water fish us anymore just because is us.

With his unreasonable demand, Osimhen can just rot at Napoli.
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man...the Gyokeres stunt is similar to Goathony stunt at Ajax.

if he do come to Utd, hopefully he doesn't flop
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post Jun 12 2025, 12:59 PM

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Overall Attack

1. Goal
Total goal = 16th place
xG = 12th

Breakdown goal by players
1. Amad = 8 goals
2. Bruno = 8 goals (3 pk)
3. Garnacho = 6 goals
4. Hojlund = 4 goals
4. Rashford = 4 goals
6. Zirkzee = 3 goals
7. De Ligt/ Martinez = 2 goals each
5 players with 1 goal

We can see not a single player score double digits and most of them are at lower single digit, and only 3 players who score more than 5 goals, this show how shitty we were last season

Our top scorer Amad/Bruno only scored 8 goals, only Southampton are worst than us, Jamie Vardy 38 years old striker, smoking happily score 9 goals still better than us biggrin.gif

most of the EPL team, their top scorer mainly are striker or winger but our top scorer is CM and wingback, this showing our AM and striker are shit

and we comparing to mid table team or lower mid table team, their statistic average usually are 10 + 8 + 8:

Palace (12th place) - Mateta 14, Eze 8, Sarr 8
Bournemouth (9th place) - Kluivert 12, Semenyo 11, Evanilson 10

then we see better team Newcastle (5th) - Isak 23, Barnes 9, jacob murphy 8

if we able to get someone who can score 13-15 league goals per season, then we can up nearby mid table team like palace or bournemouth

and if we want to go back to Euro place, beside a striker who can contribute 15 goals, we need another 2 who can contribute 8 to 10 goals each in which we have Amad and Bruno (?)

2. Actual goal - xG (we take out pk)

1. Amad 8 - xG 4.7 = +3.3
2. Bruno 5 - xG7.6 = -2.6
3. Garnacho 6 - xG 7.3 = -1.3
4. Hojlund 4 - xG5.3 = -1.3
5. Rashford 4 - xG1.7 = 2.3
6. ZZ 3 - xG 4.8 = -1.8
7. De Lig 2 - xG2.5 = -0.5
8. Martinez 2 - xG1.3
9.Dalot 0 - xG 2 = -2

positive only 2 players, 1 is confirmed will leave the club Rashford and the other 1 is Amad, the rest are negative. Dalot xG 2 he scored 0, that's why his place at Portugal is currently as sub, behind Nuno Mendes.

Put aside Rashford and Amad (most of the time at wingback), those we play front 3 mostly Garnacho, Bruno, Zirkzee, Hojlund, contributed around -7, again we compared with mid table team whereby usually 2 will have positive and 1 will be the bad guy;

Palace Mateta +0.4, Eze +2.4, Sarr -2.8 = 0
Bournemouth Kluivert +1.7, Semenyo +1, Evanilson -2.5 = +0.2

compare to us -7

and we see Newcastle Isak +2.7, Barnes +1.8, Murphy +2.3 = +6.8, that is why they are in Euro for next season, we? -7 LOL, sky vs floor

we look at UCL team Man City, Haaland 0, Foden +1.8, Marmoush +1.5 and Kovacic +4.1 = +7.4. Bad season for Haaland also break even

3. Total Shot

Total shot 527 times (EPL 7th)
Shot converted into goals 8% (EPL 19th, just above Southampton)

and we breakdown into players average shot per game / % on target

1. Garnacho 3.44 / 34.5%
2. Mount 2.9 / 45%
3. Bruno 2.78 / 28%
4. Amad 2.23 / 36.2%
5. Casemiro 1.93 / 31.3%
5. ZZ 1.79 / 39.3%
6. Rashford 1.47 / 56.3%
7. Hojlund 1.43 / 40.6%

Someone said one of the strong point for Bruno is shooting outside of the box...his % on target is only 28%
Hojlund 40.6% but most of the time he can't get the ball, but when got his on target rate is high

ok, comparison again to Newcastle which have similar stats but better and still have crook
1. Barnes 3.23 / 31.7%
2. Isak 3.1 / 43.2%
3. Gordon 2.11 / 28.1%
4. Joelinton 1.69 / 28.9%
5. Murphy 1.64 / 34.9%

With Garnacho leaving, this mean Bruno will become no.1 license to shoot with 28% hitting rate? and we compare with our new signing Cunha 3.81 / 40%, almost Isak level. If still let Bruno freedom to shoot, we will lose more possession and player like Cunha who has high on target rate or maybe Mbeumo or Gyokeres wont have the chance to shoot. So next season should spread evenly.

4. Ability to breakthrough

1. Amad 4.17
2. Garnacho 3.65
3. Rashford 3.58
4. Mainoo 2.73
5. ZZ 2.24
6. Heaven/Amass 2.11
8. Bruno 2
9. Dalot 1.69
10. Ugarte 1.52

Casemiro 0.36
Dorgu 1.38
Mount 1.45
Hojlund 1.48
Mazra 1.52

Again we put Rashford aside, we only have Amad Garnacho and Mainoo willing to do dribble breakthrough and too focus to few players, make them easily get man mark by opponents

Wingback Dorgu, Dalot, Mazra only average 1.3 - 1.7, which is relatively low, they either scare or dont have that ability to do that

We compare to Newcastle again (here I always used Newcastle as our template if we want to climb back to Euro zone)

1. Gordon 3.81
2. Barnes 3.28
3. Isak 2.97
4. Wilnock 2.89
5. Murphy 2.63
6. Bruno G 2.15
7. Livramento 1.77
8. Joelinton 1.73

Isak 2.97 vs Hojlund 1.48 bangwall.gif

They have 5 players who have average 2.5 vs we 2 (Mainoo sub most of the time), that is why we always get marked out easily while Newcastle everyone can do breakthrough and spread evenly. We just stand there and play football.. even Bruno G and Joelinton are higher than Bruno and Casemiro

and we look at breakthrough successful rate:

1. Amad 4.17 46.6%
2. Garnacho 3.65 29.2%
3. Rashford 3.58 23.1%
4. Mainoo 2.73 46%
5. ZZ 2.24 31.4%
6. Heaven 2.11 50%
8. Bruno 2 41.8%
9. Dalot 1.69 50.9%
10. Ugarte 1.52 56.3%

we can see here actually Amad is top again, Garnacho more times but successful rate low, his limit just there, the rest are ok just that don't dare to do that,

Forward 3, Cunha and we get Gyokeres or Mbeumo are enough

If we cannot get no.8 role, in which i believe we can't, we need to depends on wingback to improve on that, good example Xabi Alonso's leverkusen, his 2 DM of Xhaka and Andrich doesn't do much breakthrough but their wingback did alot to cover that. Dalot, Dorgu need to do more plus Amad who can solve that problem.

Ok enough for long story, sorry for wasting resources and whoever want to read it sweat.gif rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by beck_ken: Jun 12 2025, 01:05 PM
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If we can't get Gyökeres, do you think Cunha and Mbeumo would be enough to support the forwards we already have? Assuming they're upgrades over Garnacho and a few others. Would that take some pressure off Højlund, Bruno, and the rest?

I know it's hard to say, but which other position do we need to improve? New CB? CDM?
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QUOTE(EightPhantomz @ Jun 12 2025, 02:22 PM)
If we can't get Gyökeres, do you think Cunha and Mbeumo would be enough to support the forwards we already have? Assuming they're upgrades over Garnacho and a few others. Would that take some pressure off Højlund, Bruno, and the rest?

I know it's hard to say, but which other position do we need to improve? New CB? CDM?
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as per my long story above, clearly we need 15 + 8 + 8 template (3 players one who can score double digits, 2 near 8-10 goals) then we will reach to mid table level like Palace and Bournemouth, plus if defense is good, we can move some where near top 8. This also need to support by shot on target successful rate and converting into goals.

Cunha, Mbeumo/ Gyokeres 3 of them have good dribble breakthrough rate than our front 3 (minus Amad)

We largely poor cuz of our attackers and too depends on Amad, once he get marked out, the team can't do anything. That's why we need 5 players who can do all the dribble breakthrough with high successful rate. Amad alone not enough
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QUOTE(EightPhantomz @ Jun 12 2025, 02:22 PM)
If we can't get Gyökeres, do you think Cunha and Mbeumo would be enough to support the forwards we already have? Assuming they're upgrades over Garnacho and a few others. Would that take some pressure off Højlund, Bruno, and the rest?

I know it's hard to say, but which other position do we need to improve? New CB? CDM?
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striker.... you can go back to the season games and see if hojlund can read the game as a striker. the runs and positions all dont have... and yet he starts every single game laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 12 2025, 03:03 PM)
striker.... you can go back to the season games and see if hojlund can read the game as a striker. the runs and positions all dont have... and yet he starts every single game laugh.gif
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my stats said it all, he shit in every section tongue.gif
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 12 2025, 02:58 PM)
as per my long story above, clearly we need 15 + 8 + 8 template (3 players one who can score double digits, 2 near 8-10 goals) then we will reach to mid table level like Palace and Bournemouth, plus if defense is good, we can move some where near top 8. This also need to support by shot on target successful rate and converting into goals.

Cunha, Mbeumo/ Gyokeres 3 of them have good dribble breakthrough rate than our front 3 (minus Amad)

We largely poor cuz of our attackers and too depends on Amad, once he get marked out, the team can't do anything. That's why we need 5 players who can do all the dribble breakthrough with high successful rate. Amad alone not enough
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but some ppl here said mbeumo and cunha not a no. 9. We need a pure no. 9 to replace hojlund.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jun 12 2025, 02:58 PM)
as per my long story above, clearly we need 15 + 8 + 8 template (3 players one who can score double digits, 2 near 8-10 goals) then we will reach to mid table level like Palace and Bournemouth, plus if defense is good, we can move some where near top 8. This also need to support by shot on target successful rate and converting into goals.

Cunha, Mbeumo/ Gyokeres 3 of them have good dribble breakthrough rate than our front 3 (minus Amad)

We largely poor cuz of our attackers and too depends on Amad, once he get marked out, the team can't do anything. That's why we need 5 players who can do all the dribble breakthrough with high successful rate. Amad alone not enough
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Okdok. Just in case we can't get Gyokeres. This drama reminds me of FDJ (good but not interested) + Antony (interested, but pricey).

Was wondering, if we have good AM in Cunha and Mbeumo, we can unleash Hojlund (big if), Zirkzee, Chido, or maybe Rashford (mana tau).

So 60+m can be used to buy another position's player.

Everything is a big if.
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QUOTE(EightPhantomz @ Jun 12 2025, 05:26 PM)
Okdok. Just in case we can't get Gyokeres. This drama reminds me of FDJ (good but not interested) + Antony (interested, but pricey).

Was wondering, if we have good AM in Cunha and Mbeumo, we can unleash Hojlund (big if), Zirkzee, Chido, or maybe Rashford (mana tau).

So 60+m can be used to buy another position's player.

Everything is a big if.
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towards the second half of last season, i thought play wise in term of creating chases we have.. but the strikers not helping. so i guess thats our focus area this window. get goal scoring players. hojlund reli clueless...

defences whilst asleep, we can wait for our cb to get fit back, martinez, yoro, heaven, maguire, de ligt... we should be sufficiently covered if they stay fit...

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