Chat Oredi say... sulah ambik...
Chat Oredi say... sulah ambik...
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May 25 2025, 12:45 PM, updated 7 months ago
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jangan banyak drama...
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May 25 2025, 12:47 PM
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Maybe their work culture high stress And always kena complaint/di-complaint DarkNite liked this post
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May 25 2025, 12:49 PM
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I thought Singaporean walk a lot to many places?
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May 25 2025, 12:52 PM
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covid vacine? any ktard has info? novblaze liked this post
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May 25 2025, 12:59 PM
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Idk stopped at the point where they said the heart attacks are caused by a heart condition, eg cardiac arrest and heart failure
They don't know what's the actual cause it seems I was reading this article because I got a sore tooth, it says dental issues like dental caries can predispose to coronary artery issues Pretty wild stuff |
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May 25 2025, 12:59 PM
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May 25 2025, 01:07 PM
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May 25 2025, 01:08 PM
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May 25 2025, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 25 2025, 01:07 PM) Until now, they don't have the immunity to covid and still get sick from it.The only real immunity is given to those giant pharmaceutical companies from any lawsuits from recipients who consent and sign waiver form. This post has been edited by smsid: May 25 2025, 01:15 PM |
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May 25 2025, 01:20 PM
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Kan doktor dah cakap, vaccine to 100% safe. Politician mechanic insurance semua tak boleh pircaya, but apa doktor cakap is the truth. So pircaya kepada doktor doktor yang suci murni because they only have your health and interest in mind.
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May 25 2025, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 25 2025, 01:07 PM) You mean COVID?There's 2 issues with COVID from what I've read. The immune system kills the host from carpet bombing the lung cells infected with COVID And the general immune response to the spike protein in circulation, which was known to cause multi system issue, including heart conditions and blood clots The 2nd part was considered when the patients that are vaccinated against the spike protein developed similar issues like COVID infections But I think they might have issues proving it one over the other because a lot of people are asymptomatic when infected with COVID, and it's also known viruses sometimes hide in the human genome by incorporating with the host DNA. That's why there is a recent article by another ktard regarding potential permanent immune cell based immunomodulation by COVID viruses. Pretty wild stuff |
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May 25 2025, 01:35 PM
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Public transport so convenient....they inherently lack of exercise...
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May 25 2025, 01:49 PM
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Janji kaya, mati kaya pun ok lah....Yitu Bill Pagar can fly in just to makan durian. Sedap...
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May 25 2025, 01:57 PM
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May 25 2025, 02:02 PM
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I believe the food that we eat, now and 300 years ago, Phoenix_KL liked this post
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May 25 2025, 02:04 PM
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every disease caused by body inflammation.
check what you eat, sugar, carb, flour, omega-6, upf |
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May 25 2025, 02:10 PM
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May 25 2025, 02:16 PM
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May 25 2025, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 25 2025, 02:16 PM) 1 thousand cases out of a population of 340 million. 3 deaths. No heart attack before kobis?What is the increase in people dying from heart attacks per year? I bet it's more than 3 even in Singapore. How many measles cases after he becum the health secretary of US? |
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ May 25 2025, 02:20 PM) The topic is about the increase in heart attacks, especially among young people. Not about whether there were heart attacks before kobis.Measles cases have gone down after he told people to get vaccinated. Apa lagi mau? https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html ![]() Sihambodoh liked this post
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May 25 2025, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 25 2025, 01:20 PM) You mean COVID? Also, the way WHO reacts to it is completely in reverse, should have done early lockdown on ground zero, block air flights, and mandatory masking, to reduce exposure and the spreading.There's 2 issues with COVID from what I've read. The immune system kills the host from carpet bombing the lung cells infected with COVID And the general immune response to the spike protein in circulation, which was known to cause multi system issue, including heart conditions and blood clots The 2nd part was considered when the patients that are vaccinated against the spike protein developed similar issues like COVID infections But I think they might have issues proving it one over the other because a lot of people are asymptomatic when infected with COVID, and it's also known viruses sometimes hide in the human genome by incorporating with the host DNA. That's why there is a recent article by another ktard regarding potential permanent immune cell based immunomodulation by COVID viruses. Pretty wild stuff Instead, they do the complete opposite, they call country that block China travelers from entering their country as xenophobic, they say mask is useless, and lockdown is useless. But after the whole world is infected, then they reverse all their initial ruling, mandatory block traveling, mandatory masking, and mandatory lockdown. If you ask me, WHO has completely failed at their job from the very beginning. Mask is important if you don't have immunity yet, it gives your body ample time to troubleshoot the virus before it replicate too much and impairs the lung, by reducing exposure, your body has more time to troubleshoot the new pathogens and build immunity safely. From the start I wear mask already, when they say it is useless to wear it, but I stop wearing mask much earlier too, when it is still mandatory to wear it. |
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May 25 2025, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 25 2025, 02:26 PM) The topic is about the increase in heart attacks, especially among young people. Not about whether there were heart attacks before kobis. It's clearly stated in the videoMeasles cases have gone down after he told people to get vaccinated. Apa lagi mau? https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html ![]() The number of heart attacks increased, compared to a decade ago. Dey, kobis beksin sudah a decade? Want to compare also choose the correct duration la. xpole and Phoenix_KL liked this post
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May 25 2025, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 25 2025, 01:13 PM) Until now, they don't have the immunity to covid and still get sick from it. Yup , this is the main reason i refuse to sign and cucuk ... same goes to my childrenThe only real immunity is given to those giant pharmaceutical companies from any lawsuits from recipients who consent and sign waiver form. smsid liked this post
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May 25 2025, 02:33 PM
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vote pap ou
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May 25 2025, 02:40 PM
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May 25 2025, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 25 2025, 02:26 PM) The topic is about the increase in heart attacks, especially among young people. Not about whether there were heart attacks before kobis. Concept too difficult to digest for them.Measles cases have gone down after he told people to get vaccinated. Apa lagi mau? https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html ![]() |
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May 25 2025, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ May 25 2025, 02:29 PM) It's clearly stated in the video The problem is, the doctors in Singapore are saying that even more younger people are having heart attack issues.The number of heart attacks increased, compared to a decade ago. Dey, kobis beksin sudah a decade? Want to compare also choose the correct duration la. Which is unheard of 5 years ago, usually heart attacks targets age 50 years and above. HasukiiXrd liked this post
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ May 25 2025, 02:29 PM) It's clearly stated in the video 2011: 8,000/yearThe number of heart attacks increased, compared to a decade ago. Dey, kobis beksin sudah a decade? Want to compare also choose the correct duration la. Now: 12,000/year QUOTE QUOTE(killdavid @ May 25 2025, 02:41 PM) Youtube comments so different from ktards.![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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May 25 2025, 03:04 PM
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Too kiasu or too much eat in Malaysia
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 25 2025, 02:27 PM) Also, the way WHO reacts to it is completely in reverse, should have done early lockdown on ground zero, block air flights, and mandatory masking, to reduce exposure and the spreading. Issue is there are different people with different opinions on lockdown etcInstead, they do the complete opposite, they call country that block China travelers from entering their country as xenophobic, they say mask is useless, and lockdown is useless. But after the whole world is infected, then they reverse all their initial ruling, mandatory block traveling, mandatory masking, and mandatory lockdown. If you ask me, WHO has completely failed at their job from the very beginning. Mask is important if you don't have immunity yet, it gives your body ample time to troubleshoot the virus before it replicate too much and impairs the lung, by reducing exposure, your body has more time to troubleshoot the new pathogens and build immunity safely. From the start I wear mask already, when they say it is useless to wear it, but I stop wearing mask much earlier too, when it is still mandatory to wear it. Initially I think it seems like just a small flu, minimal deaths Even influenza season, old people die. So why bother lockdown then. So many were against it. Tun was against it But then ICU all around the world got overloaded by COVID patients because the infection is so rapid, with no vaccine available. So they decided to lockdown otherwise you would have patients dying from lack of ICU support. Even in hindsight of this, many people still object to lockdown. People rather ICU overload and let people die (mostly old people, some rare young ones), because they are not effected by it. End of the day, people want to see what they want to see. That's just how I remember the rough timeline. Hindsight 2020, but is it really 2020 tho maybe with thick shade of sunnies This post has been edited by sakuraboo: May 25 2025, 03:53 PM |
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May 25 2025, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 25 2025, 03:53 PM) Issue is there are different people with different opinions on lockdown etc I still remember, the first lockdown were supposed to be 2 WEEKS ONLY, to REDUCE THE CURVE, to give hospital time to adjust from the massive hysteria.Initially I think it seems like just a small flu, minimal deaths Even influenza season, old people die. So why bother lockdown then. So many were against it. Tun was against it But then ICU all around the world got overloaded by COVID patients because the infection is so rapid, with no vaccine available. So they decided to lockdown otherwise you would have patients dying from lack of ICU support. Even in hindsight of this, many people still object to lockdown. People rather ICU overload and let people die (mostly old people, some rare young ones), because they are not effected by it. End of the day, people want to see what they want to see. That's just how I remember the rough timeline. Hindsight 2020, but is it really 2020 tho maybe with thick shade of sunnies But suddenly, they keep shifting the goal post for 2 years even after the majority 95% already coerced into taking the first two doses, and still they tried to shift the goal post for the next 3rd and 4th dose until people get mad with their constant lies. This post has been edited by smsid: May 25 2025, 04:04 PM |
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 25 2025, 03:59 PM) I still remember, the first lockdown were supposed to be 2 WEEKS ONLY, to REDUCE THE CURVE, to give hospital time to adjust from the massive hysteria. Yeah it's in part to flatten the curveBut suddenly, they keep shifting the goal post for 2 years even after the majority 95% already coerced into taken the two first doses, but still they shift the goal post under 3rd/4th dose. The 3rd and 4th was way past though Goal post moved because although there is reduction of people getting severe COVID and deaths post vaccine, there's still people dying from COVID And after opening up, the wave comes from the bigger number of people infected hence the number, despite vaccination Edit: I don't have the exact figures, but often times infection proportion is log scale but ICU sites remain a fixed figure, at most increase linear at best. Even if it's 0.1% from 1%, we're still looking at log scale tens of times, and just by tipping 2 additional from baseline, basically means ICU overloaded This post has been edited by sakuraboo: May 25 2025, 04:08 PM |
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we cant pinpoint the actual reason or we are forbidden to pinpoint that reason aa?
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May 25 2025, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 25 2025, 04:05 PM) Yeah it's in part to flatten the curve So the question lies why people keep getting sick despite 95% intake of two dose experimental vaccine.The 3rd and 4th was way past though Goal post moved because although there is reduction of people getting severe COVID and deaths post vaccine, there's still people dying from COVID And after opening up, the wave comes from the bigger number of people infected hence the number, despite vaccination And the constant lying: |
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 25 2025, 03:53 PM) Issue is there are different people with different opinions on lockdown etc The current NIH director (Jay Bhattacharya) proposed targeted lockdown - protect old people and people comorbidities, everyone else allowed to live like normal with some social distancing measures.Initially I think it seems like just a small flu, minimal deaths Even influenza season, old people die. So why bother lockdown then. So many were against it. Tun was against it But then ICU all around the world got overloaded by COVID patients because the infection is so rapid, with no vaccine available. So they decided to lockdown otherwise you would have patients dying from lack of ICU support. Even in hindsight of this, many people still object to lockdown. People rather ICU overload and let people die (mostly old people, some rare young ones), because they are not effected by it. End of the day, people want to see what they want to see. That's just how I remember the rough timeline. Hindsight 2020, but is it really 2020 tho maybe with thick shade of sunnies https://gbdeclaration.org/ |
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 25 2025, 04:10 PM) So the question lies why people keep getting sick despite 95% intake of two dose experimental vaccine. Because you forgot the virus mutated? Viruses mutate all the time even when nobody in the news detected a new strain.And the constant lying: Additionally, if you read my first post to the thread, if you understood the 2nd part, the answer is there. That's a neutral answer to both party that supports vaccine and also against vaccine. The spike protein is integral to the immune response in both normal immune response and vaccinated response. People have been getting pericarditis, blood clots, stroke even when the vaccine was not available. But somehow the spike protein is suspected to be also the reason why vaccinated patients might be increased risk of developing similar inflammatory immune responses, assuming they didn't get COVID at all. But this only works if we can 100% confirm they haven't been infected by COVID, when COVID can be asymptomatic, and has virtually infected everyone. I think the short and long of this, people will continuing debating, then plot twist, COVID is oncogenic because it's common in viruses to alter DNA etc etc. Then suddenly one narrative change from one point to another, should have vaccine, should have not vaccine. Blah blah blah. Nobody really knows for sure. |
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May 25 2025, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 25 2025, 12:59 PM) Idk stopped at the point where they said the heart attacks are caused by a heart condition, eg cardiac arrest and heart failure Apparently, is true.. especially for plaque when enter blood stream.. will cause build up in arteryThey don't know what's the actual cause it seems I was reading this article because I got a sore tooth, it says dental issues like dental caries can predispose to coronary artery issues Pretty wild stuff |
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May 25 2025, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 25 2025, 04:20 PM) Because you forgot the virus mutated? Viruses mutate all the time even when nobody in the news detected a new strain. I take zero experimental vaccine, totally fine all the time, all this mutation nonsense doesn't make me sick.Additionally, if you read my first post to the thread, if you understood the 2nd part, the answer is there. That's a neutral answer to both party that supports vaccine and also against vaccine. The spike protein is integral to the immune response in both normal immune response and vaccinated response. People have been getting pericarditis, blood clots, stroke even when the vaccine was not available. But somehow the spike protein is suspected to be also the reason why vaccinated patients might be increased risk of developing similar inflammatory immune responses, assuming they didn't get COVID at all. But this only works if we can 100% confirm they haven't been infected by COVID, when COVID can be asymptomatic, and has virtually infected everyone. I think the short and long of this, people will continuing debating, then plot twist, COVID is oncogenic because it's common in viruses to alter DNA etc etc. Then suddenly one narrative change from one point to another, should have vaccine, should have not vaccine. Blah blah blah. Nobody really knows for sure. And my privilege and freedom were taken away from me because you sheeps keep getting sick. Why must I suffer because your vaccine keep failing? You taken your damn vaccine, you should be fine right? Oh yeah I forgot, they change the definition of "vaccine" few years ago, how convenient. |
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Where is our AZ masta race when we need them the most? Only the best of the best can be jabbed with AZ.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 25 2025, 04:27 PM) I take zero experimental vaccine, totally fine all the time, all this mutation nonsense doesn't make me sick. Dont forget how KKM were targeting some doc or med that help ?And my privilege and freedom were taken away from me because you sheeps keep getting sick. Why must I suffer because your vaccine keep failing? You taken your damn vaccine, you should be fine right? Oh yeah I forgot, they change the definition of "vaccine" few years ago, how convenient. Even some nurses injected non-lethal to save some ppl .. but some TYPE PPL really KIASI and ask to CUCUK THE REAL ONE. LOL Oh yeah, some pg ppl so kiasu kiasi and go to KULIM to get cucuk and PROUD OF IT This post has been edited by HasukiiXrd: May 25 2025, 04:39 PM JohnL77 liked this post
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May 25 2025, 04:49 PM
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Can be hereditary. My colleague 60+ died while playing pickle ball. His family has history of heart problems
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 25 2025, 04:27 PM) I take zero experimental vaccine, totally fine all the time, all this mutation nonsense doesn't make me sick. Dang bruvAnd my privilege and freedom were taken away from me because you sheeps keep getting sick. Why must I suffer because your vaccine keep failing? You taken your damn vaccine, you should be fine right? Oh yeah I forgot, they change the definition of "vaccine" few years ago, how convenient. You seems so triggered tho. Let the rage flow yo! Hahaha Anyway I don't make the vaccine. The vaccine was taken for the greater community, that was always the plan The mRNA based or even the regular vaccine didn't have a long safety profile, that's for sure Anyway I love science, COVID is still a developing story I'm sure Maybe in the future the future there will be more severe detrimental effects from both the vaccinated and unvaccinated camps. And it's just how it is. |
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May 25 2025, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 25 2025, 05:48 PM) Dang bruv Hahaha, saja-saja mau trigger, but you didn't bite, my bad.You seems so triggered tho. Let the rage flow yo! Hahaha Anyway I don't make the vaccine. The vaccine was taken for the greater community, that was always the plan The mRNA based or even the regular vaccine didn't have a long safety profile, that's for sure Anyway I love science, COVID is still a developing story I'm sure Maybe in the future the future there will be more severe detrimental effects from both the vaccinated and unvaccinated camps. And it's just how it is. I am anti experimental vaccine only, where you are force to sign a waiver form. If kene bite by dog with rabies, must cucuke or die a suffering death. I am practical kind of guy. |
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QUOTE(HasukiiXrd @ May 25 2025, 04:38 PM) Dont forget how KKM were targeting some doc or med that help ? I think those nurses were ordered to by some higher ups. Not to save people, but to diffuse the effect.Even some nurses injected non-lethal to save some ppl .. but some TYPE PPL really KIASI and ask to CUCUK THE REAL ONE. LOL Oh yeah, some pg ppl so kiasu kiasi and go to KULIM to get cucuk and PROUD OF IT Later all the sheep spooked then how? |
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 25 2025, 07:17 PM) Hahaha, saja-saja mau trigger, but you didn't bite, my bad. The most interesting topic my family watched yesterday was gene editingI am anti experimental vaccine only, where you are force to sign a waiver form. If kene bite by dog with rabies, must cucuke or die a suffering death. I am practical kind of guy. One kid died in one of the experiments because of severe immune response in the very initial trials But they now have sickle cell genetic therapy using crispr-cas9 which has been approved If that's the case, I guess it could extend to cancer therapy and obesity or whatever Wild stuff |
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May 25 2025, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 25 2025, 07:28 PM) I think those nurses were ordered to by some higher ups. Not to save people, but to diffuse the effect. That maybe what you heard and news you read.Later all the sheep spooked then how? My niece was a nurse and confirmed it's true of those story. She was terminated because tak mao cucuk |
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May 25 2025, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 25 2025, 03:03 PM) A decade after 2011 is 2021 right?Bila start kobis vaccine? Fuyooh, kobis beksin boleh travel back in time. Cucuk 2021 Heart attack 2011. Wait, die before 2021 how to cucuk beksin? soul78 liked this post
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ May 25 2025, 09:02 PM) A decade after 2011 is 2021 right? Bila start kobis vaccine? Fuyooh, kobis beksin boleh travel back in time. Cucuk 2021 Heart attack 2011. Wait, die before 2021 how to cucuk beksin? QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ May 25 2025, 09:05 PM) I don't understand your argument. The article is saying heart attacks in Singapore increased from 8,000 in 2011 to 12,000 in 2021, but you ask, "Cucuk 2021, Heart attack 2011." Huh?https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cardiova...st&country=~SGP ![]() This post has been edited by JohnL77: May 25 2025, 09:31 PM |
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