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post May 21 2025, 10:39 AM, updated 7 months ago

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post May 21 2025, 10:40 AM

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enjoy your brick.
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post May 21 2025, 10:40 AM

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using minisforum
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post May 21 2025, 10:42 AM

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apa graphic card in macmini
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post May 21 2025, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 21 2025, 10:42 AM)
apa graphic card in macmini
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Mac Mini is integrated GPU
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post May 21 2025, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(T.Alvin @ May 21 2025, 11:44 AM)
Mac Mini is integrated GPU
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QUOTE(T.Alvin @ May 21 2025, 10:44 AM)
Mac Mini is integrated GPU
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how is the integrated gpu perform i wonder

same level as 5080?
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post May 21 2025, 10:45 AM

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what is the software he is using to view both mac and windows on the same monitor?
i tried to bring my m1 mba back to life the other day to do some market research and it was slow like fk compared to my desktop when im only using edge and some extension
really need reconsider wanting to spend on mac again or not
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post May 21 2025, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 21 2025, 10:45 AM)
how is the integrated gpu perform i wonder

same level as 5080?
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about the same as RTX2060 if not slightly better

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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ May 21 2025, 10:45 AM)
what is the software he is using to view both mac and windows on the same monitor?
i tried to bring my m1 mba back to life the other day to do some market research and it was slow like fk compared to my desktop when im only using edge and some extension
really need reconsider wanting to spend on mac again or not
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mac slow? cannot be ba?
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post May 21 2025, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 21 2025, 10:45 AM)
how is the integrated gpu perform i wonder

same level as 5080?
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 21 2025, 10:44 AM)
Topkek
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Trading software don't need standalone GPU
CPU important

I'm not kid play stupid 3A game
we make real money
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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 10:52 AM)
Trading software don't need standalone GPU
CPU important

I'm not kid play stupid 3A game
we make real money
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u dont play ma dont play lor

no one ask if u play 3a game laugh.gif
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post May 21 2025, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 10:52 AM)
Trading software don't need standalone GPU
CPU important

I'm not kid play stupid 3A game
we make real money
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Kecian
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post May 21 2025, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ May 21 2025, 10:59 AM)
Kecian
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u make this $$ in a day then we talk
or just STFU like a peasant
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5455301&hl=
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post May 21 2025, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 10:52 AM)
Trading software don't need standalone GPU
CPU important

I'm not kid play stupid 3A game
we make real money
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what's the performance for a 420*600p 60frame image to video for wan 2.1?
comfyui supports apple silicon now.
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post May 21 2025, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 21 2025, 11:03 AM)
what's the performance for a 420*600p 60frame image to video for wan 2.1?
comfyui supports apple silicon now.
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Not yet test.. not urgent buy
just planning for 2nd trading setup
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post May 21 2025, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 10:52 AM)
Trading software don't need standalone GPU
CPU important

I'm not kid play stupid 3A game
we make real money
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lol biasa trading guna apa pun x kisah lah

u running high frequency algorithmic trading ke?
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post May 21 2025, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ May 21 2025, 10:45 AM)
what is the software he is using to view both mac and windows on the same monitor?
i tried to bring my m1 mba back to life the other day to do some market research and it was slow like fk compared to my desktop when im only using edge and some extension
really need reconsider wanting to spend on mac again or not
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called Parallels apps. need subscription thou

This post has been edited by T.Alvin: May 21 2025, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 11:03 AM)
u make this $$ in a day then we talk
or just STFU like a peasant
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5455301&hl=
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Kecian betul
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post May 21 2025, 11:09 AM

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Where got ppl buy Mac for function one...
buy Mac is just to flex wallet is thicc... innocent.gif
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post May 21 2025, 11:09 AM

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m4 mac mini base model user here since 1 jan 2025 , best money ever spent

(came from custom built desktop pc since i was born)

sudah old so no play game nor need all the fancy stuff, mac mini just works
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post May 21 2025, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 10:52 AM)
Trading software don't need standalone GPU
CPU important

I'm not kid play stupid 3A game
we make real money
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Kekwa
Make real money but can't even do proper product research
Sure buddy
TSyehlai
post May 21 2025, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(SourLemons @ May 21 2025, 11:09 AM)
m4 mac mini base model user here since 1 jan 2025 , best money ever spent

(came from custom built desktop pc since i was born)

sudah old so no play game nor need all the fancy stuff, mac mini just works
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M4 base compare with top Intel chip

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post May 21 2025, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ May 21 2025, 11:10 AM)
Kekwa
Make real money but can't even do proper product research
Sure buddy
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Don't bark without valid reason
make you looks retarded

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post May 21 2025, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 11:31 AM)
M4 base compare with top Intel chip

user posted image
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no need see benchmark la , 2025 liao
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post May 21 2025, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(SourLemons @ May 21 2025, 11:34 AM)
no need see benchmark la , 2025 liao
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You hv smarter way to compare?

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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 11:37 AM)
You hv smarter way to compare?
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just use the machine in apple store la brother
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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 11:31 AM)
M4 base compare with top Intel chip

user posted image
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tered compare mac mini with custom pc

benchmark compare with laptop chip pulak

topkek
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QUOTE(SourLemons @ May 21 2025, 11:38 AM)
just use the machine in apple store la brother
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I can't install trading software to test there

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post May 21 2025, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 21 2025, 11:38 AM)
tered compare mac mini with custom pc

benchmark compare with laptop chip pulak

topkek
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Core 9 285H is my current trading laptop
just comparing RM22k laptop to this RM2k+ Mac mini m4

Price performance.. Mac win by miles

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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 11:38 AM)
I can't install trading software to rest there
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then you answered your own question already la brother
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post May 21 2025, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 11:03 AM)
u make this $$ in a day then we talk
or just STFU like a peasant
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5455301&hl=
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lel at big peepee energy
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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 11:42 AM)
Core 9 285H is my current trading laptop
just comparing RM22k laptop to this RM2k+ Mac mini m4

Price performance.. Mac win by miles
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wah 22k laptop with core 9 285H
compare what also win la

user posted image

got HX370 mini PCs around 3k, ram storage boleh tambah sendiri
more comparable to the mac mini

but yes mac mini is pretty good value but not the only option

mac os i really kenot

dah used to Linux
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post May 21 2025, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 21 2025, 11:49 AM)
wah 22k laptop with core 9 285H
compare what also win la

user posted image

got HX370 mini PCs around 3k, ram storage boleh tambah sendiri
more comparable to the mac mini

but yes mac mini is pretty good value but not the only option

mac os i really kenot

dah used to Linux
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HX370 performance ok
but most mini pc are China brand
not sure reliability
or heat issue

Mac don't hv above issue
can't afford hang or crash when trading

Not to mention Mac really cheap
user posted image
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QUOTE(dckm @ May 21 2025, 11:48 AM)
lel at big peepee energy
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I'm more offensive in /k
because some ktards are toxic

I'm super friendly in reddit
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so how many frames m4 can produce in counter strike2?

i dont care on stuff i didnt do like running geekbench or video editing. general usage compute has been fast enough for me since 2010, when ssd starting to become mainstream.

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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 11:05 AM)
Not yet test.. not urgent buy
just planning for 2nd trading setup
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why not just get a lenovo laptop

trading no need fancy mac also normal laptop can right?
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 21 2025, 12:11 PM)
so how many frames m4 can produce in counter strike2?

i dont care on stuff i didnt do like running geekbench or video editing. general usage compute has been fast enough for me since 2010, when ssd starting to become mainstream.
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sorry not into gaming
but can just benchmark it's integrated GPU
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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 21 2025, 12:18 PM)
why not just get a lenovo laptop

trading no need fancy mac also normal laptop can right?
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Mac mini still cheaper than any latest Lenovo laptop
M4 high performance is bonus

This post has been edited by yehlai: May 21 2025, 12:42 PM
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my Mac mini m2 8gb ram 😅 performs so much better than my gaming laptop running 32gb ram. at least for graphic applications. i use lightroom and Photoshop intensively, on m2 these programs just fly but the same process i try on gaming laptop 🤦🏻
something about m2 chip is so good at intensive applications. so i have no doubt m4 performs even crazier.
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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ May 21 2025, 12:42 PM)
my Mac mini m2 8gb ram 😅 performs so much better than my gaming laptop running 32gb ram. at least for graphic applications. i use lightroom and Photoshop intensively, on m2 these programs just fly but the same process i try on gaming laptop 🤦🏻
something about m2 chip is so good at intensive applications. so i have no doubt m4 performs even crazier.
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powerful single core cpu and efficient GPU acceleration

these specific stuff really no brainer use mac with apple silicon

especially video editing, the media engine alone in the chip is worth it
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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 12:36 PM)
sorry not into gaming
but can just benchmark it's integrated GPU
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but people keep huhah apple silicon so fast, but yet i dont see techtuber test the mac with game settings that is not bottlenecked by gpu.
but little do we know that responsive in games can somewhat represent on responsive in application too. thats why my old gtx1060 is still working fine on modern cpu.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 21 2025, 12:45 PM)
but people keep huhah apple silicon so fast, but yet i dont see techtuber test the mac with game settings that is not bottlenecked by gpu.
but little do we know that responsive in games can somewhat represent on responsive in application too. thats why my old gtx1060 is still working fine on modern cpu.
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Because it's not the intended use case. Some software is optimize for certain os only. Pc games is apple biggest weakness.
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 21 2025, 12:45 PM)
powerful single core cpu and efficient GPU acceleration

these specific stuff really no brainer use mac with apple silicon

especially video editing, the media engine alone in the chip is worth it
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back then before i bought Mac, i always use windows pc and always wondered why ppl always like to use Mac for creative applications. after i bought one then i know why. now i understand why apple company successful, their products are really that good.
having said that I'm still not sure if i can convert from Android to iPhone lol always been a Samsung fanboi feel difficult to shift to iPhone. is iPhone the same scenario like windows vs apple?
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 21 2025, 12:49 PM)
Because it's not the intended use case. Some software is optimize for certain os only. Pc games is apple biggest weakness.
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pro apple pretends cuda didnt exist. but hey thanks to apple, they forces graphic card manufacturers to add more hardware on stuff that they think already more than enough (video decoder,encoder hardware)
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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ May 21 2025, 12:52 PM)
back then before i bought Mac, i always use windows pc and always wondered why ppl always like to use Mac for creative applications. after i bought one then i know why. now i understand why apple company successful, their products are really that good.
having said that I'm still not sure if i can convert from Android to iPhone lol always been a Samsung fanboi feel difficult to shift to iPhone. is iPhone the same scenario like windows vs apple?
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apps in general definitely feel more optimized on iphone (especially those heavy china apps e.g. taobao all those)

but cons is everything so limited what u can do and the settings is a mess, recent Apple Intelligence also shitshow. Something really wrong with Apple software division and im skeptical for the next few years.

just changed to ipong from flip4 last year cuz the flip screen went kaput and fedup liao
luckily already used ipad for few years so already somewhat familiar, dunno how it is if convert without use before at all
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QUOTE(yehlai @ May 21 2025, 12:40 PM)
Mac mini still cheaper than any latest Lenovo laptop
M4 high performance is bonus
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M4 macbook air

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depends on what you mainly use it for and the softwares needed to perform that tasks
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 21 2025, 12:11 PM)
so how many frames m4 can produce in counter strike2?

i dont care on stuff i didnt do like running geekbench or video editing. general usage compute has been fast enough for me since 2010, when ssd starting to become mainstream.
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I have try League of legend, it is about 180 fps average. assuming CS2 more demanding, should be around 120-140 like that? not sure
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mac ecosystem best confined to laptop
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QUOTE(T.Alvin @ May 21 2025, 01:48 PM)
I have try League of legend, it is about 180 fps average. assuming CS2 more demanding, should be around 120-140 like that? not sure
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okay x86 still king then. sticking to x86 till i ded.

 

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