https://www.newsweek.com/college-ai-student...chatgpt-2073192
Student: I Want My Money Back!
Professors Caught Using AI For Teaching Notes, Students Now Want A Refund
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May 18 2025, 02:45 PM, updated 7 months ago
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Northeastern Student Demanded Her Tuition Fees Back After Catching Her Professor Using OpenAI’s ChatGPT
https://www.newsweek.com/college-ai-student...chatgpt-2073192 Student: I Want My Money Back! |
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May 18 2025, 03:02 PM
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>student using AI = WRONG
>teachers using AI = uhh umm we have to embrace the future! |
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May 18 2025, 03:03 PM
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May 18 2025, 03:03 PM
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May 18 2025, 03:06 PM
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so the student don't want to catch up with the times ?
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May 18 2025, 03:17 PM
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May 18 2025, 03:41 PM
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Teaching notes? Articles say it is for feedback form only
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May 18 2025, 03:42 PM
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Everyone can use AI
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May 18 2025, 03:42 PM
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no use AI - they say you bodo & outdated
use AI - they say you cheat & want refund strange world isn't it |
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May 18 2025, 03:43 PM
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Nothing wrong
Karen Inkambing AI lecturer |
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May 18 2025, 03:52 PM
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May 18 2025, 03:54 PM
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Sohai students in future professor say u can't use AI then only play victim
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May 18 2025, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ May 18 2025, 03:54 PM) Why pay US$100k for a course where the lecturer just come to class talks to himself facing the whiteboard and leaves once class is over, sit for an exam then join the rat race job market then?Don't you think it's cheaper to buy online based courses subscriptions, watch videos complete coursework, engage AI which is available to you personally for 24/7, sit for exams instead? Teachers are no longer relevant in modern day? They don't need hundreds or thousands of them teaching. You only need the course planning unit, the facilitators and the examiners which sets the questions. |
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May 18 2025, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 18 2025, 07:15 PM) Why pay US$100k for a course where the lecturer just come to class talks to himself facing the whiteboard and leaves once class is over, sit for an exam then join the rat race job market then? Simply to get an accredited cert. You need a degree certificate from a recognized institution to get a formal job, even if you already have solid knowledge in the field, which you might have learned even better through online courses.Don't you think it's cheaper to buy online based courses subscriptions, watch videos complete coursework, engage AI which is available to you personally for 24/7, sit for exams instead? Teachers are no longer relevant in modern day? They don't need hundreds or thousands of them teaching. You only need the course planning unit, the facilitators and the examiners which sets the questions. Online courses or watching youtube videos don't give you the black and white cert from a reputable institution for HR to hire you, unless you got a special place like Elon Musk who just hire any kid without college degree. Professors can't teach properly is already a traditional problem since the past. Not because of after AI is invented. Because Prof will think he just profess, and it's your business to get it or not. It's your business to pass the test or not. Because they are born in generation that's not spoon feed. They expect students to learn themselves without much supervision. Inb4, students also use AI, so Prof also use lo. Win win mah. Why dumb dumb mark student assignment that is also AI generated. The whole point is for student to get his degree, and Prof get his 20k salary. A mutual business. imin liked this post
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May 18 2025, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ May 18 2025, 07:34 PM) Simply to get an accredited cert. You need a degree certificate from a recognized institution to get a formal job, even if you already have solid knowledge in the field, which you might have learned even better through online courses. That is also why the public is asking, if skill base careers why not just join the industry after high school and then take on apprenticeship?Online courses or watching youtube videos don't give you the black and white cert from a reputable institution for HR to hire you, unless you got a special place like Elon Musk who just hire any kid without college degree. Professors can't teach properly is already a traditional problem since the past. Not because of after AI is invented. Because Prof will think he just profess, and it's your business to get it or not. It's your business to pass the test or not. Because they are born in generation that's not spoon feed. They expect students to learn themselves without much supervision. Inb4, students also use AI, so Prof also use lo. Win win mah. Why dumb dumb mark student assignment that is also AI generated. The whole point is for student to get his degree, and Prof get his 20k salary. A mutual business. Or start from bottom in the industry, learning the much needed skills from start until you master it? Professors can't teach properly since the past? The more reason they should be eliminated because they're just there to give advise and talk nonsense when it comes to real world hands on. You can't teach or part your knowledge in that way, everyone needs to learn from mistakes and through real world participation/experience. Like I mention before if the lecturer is just to come to class, talks only to himself facing the board, scribbles on the board then at the end of the class session walks out, what is the purpose of keeping these clowns? It's my business to get it or not? The more people will feel education is a waste of money for an investment and a scam sorta like a gamble. Why not just record your entire lecture post up the video and let people replay and watch again and again until they figure out with your gibberish lessons. There is also no more tricks for you to evade if your lectures are recorded. Right there one mistake you made, the video will serve as evidence. You act like a clown and talk nonsense, you'll be decided by your customers who are also your students. Don't be proud and say it's not your business if the students can grasp what you're teaching when you're not even putting the slightest effort in your role as a teacher. |
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 18 2025, 07:51 PM) That is also why the public is asking, if skill base careers why not just join the industry after high school and then take on apprenticeship? That's of course is true, but true doesn't equal to reality (same as law, there is always loophole). Or start from bottom in the industry, learning the much needed skills from start until you master it? Professors can't teach properly since the past? The more reason they should be eliminated because they're just there to give advise and talk nonsense when it comes to real world hands on. You can't teach or part your knowledge in that way, everyone needs to learn from mistakes and through real world participation/experience. Like I mention before if the lecturer is just to come to class, talks only to himself facing the board, scribbles on the board then at the end of the class session walks out, what is the purpose of keeping these clowns? It's my business to get it or not? The more people will feel education is a waste of money for an investment and a scam sorta like a gamble. Why not just record your entire lecture post up the video and let people replay and watch again and again until they figure out with your gibberish lessons. There is also no more tricks for you to evade if your lectures are recorded. Right there one mistake you made, the video will serve as evidence. You act like a clown and talk nonsense, you'll be decided by your customers who are also your students. Don't be proud and say it's not your business if the students can grasp what you're teaching when you're not even putting the slightest effort in your role as a teacher. That's not how the system works now. One man's voice can't change the education system. Even if you bring a whole gang go protest it won't change anything too. Because the system is currently in use and authorities won't change it. So, if you can't change the system, you live with it. And play the system to the best so that you gain benefit, so that you're not in the disadvantage side. The system still follows the traditional way, passed down from generation to generation, with few changes made. And every system has its own flaws, has its own pros and cons. There must be more reasons why authorities don't want to change it compared to reasons to change it. It's not easy to do reformation. It's going to cause chaos, potentially more damage than not changing at all and just stick to the flawed system that doesn't do much damage. Even in law, if you kill someone who killed you son and you're charged with death penalty. Where's the justice? But what can u do? That's the system. And one man's voice or opinion can't do anything. You live by the system and play it smartly so that you don't get disadvantage out of it. |
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May 18 2025, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ May 18 2025, 08:14 PM) That's of course is true, but true doesn't equal to reality (same as law, there is always loophole). The moment a lecturer/teacher can't even get his students to be interested or catch the interests of the lesson's topics is already an utter failure on his part which is is paid for a salary.That's not how the system works now. One man's voice can't change the education system. Even if you bring a whole gang go protest it won't change anything too. Because the system is currently in use and authorities won't change it. So, if you can't change the system, you live with it. And play the system to the best so that you gain benefit, so that you're not in the disadvantage side. The system still follows the traditional way, passed down from generation to generation, with few changes made. And every system has its own flaws, has its own pros and cons. There must be more reasons why authorities don't want to change it compared to reasons to change it. It's not easy to do reformation. It's going to cause chaos, potentially more damage than not changing at all and just stick to the flawed system that doesn't do much damage. Even in law, if you kill someone who killed you son and you're charged with death penalty. Where's the justice? But what can u do? That's the system. And one man's voice or opinion can't do anything. You live by the system and play it smartly so that you don't get disadvantage out of it. How many of you who attended colleges and university came across lecturers/professors who talk to themselves in lectures? Might as well record them and distribute the lectures to their students instead of wasting their time having them attend classes.At least it's no more excuse for absentees to say they missed your lessons. Back when my university days when the internet was as slow as snail to accommodate video streaming and internet were just plain texts and images that took mins to load, we were still lucky to have camcorders to record lectures and distribute among our circles of friends. Even our parents days they used voice recorders to record what the lecturer speaks throughout classes. Now with AI and HD streaming made easily available in this era, all those are no longer needed. The universities can even make the lecturer record a series of tutorial videos for once and then relieve them of their jobs having acquired those video lessons as their properties. |
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 18 2025, 07:15 PM) Why pay US$100k for a course where the lecturer just come to class talks to himself facing the whiteboard and leaves once class is over, sit for an exam then join the rat race job market then? Good luck asking AI to teach primary school kid without teacher. Doubt the kids will focus on learning subject instead of clicking YouTube and gamesDon't you think it's cheaper to buy online based courses subscriptions, watch videos complete coursework, engage AI which is available to you personally for 24/7, sit for exams instead? Teachers are no longer relevant in modern day? They don't need hundreds or thousands of them teaching. You only need the course planning unit, the facilitators and the examiners which sets the questions. |
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May 18 2025, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(kennykck @ May 18 2025, 10:30 PM) Good luck asking AI to teach primary school kid without teacher. Doubt the kids will focus on learning subject instead of clicking YouTube and games Primary school parents with the help of AI is more than enough to teach their children. If games and content is interesting the child will be glued to it and treat it as a religion. A one year course can be accelerated to 3 months/1/4 year in no time.Secondary school AI can replace the personal tutor and additional tuition classes. IGCSE already got online mode no need attend classes. |
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 18 2025, 10:34 PM) Primary school parents with the help of AI is more than enough to teach their children. If games and content is interesting the child will be glued to it and treat it as a religion. A one year course can be accelerated to 3 months/1/4 year in no time. Parents nowadays wish their primary school kids go to school than stay at home with them. Because their kids are “little monster” at home, where only school teacher able to suppress them. Quite obvious you never teach a kid at primary school age beforeSecondary school AI can replace the personal tutor and additional tuition classes. IGCSE already got online mode no need attend classes. |
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