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post May 16 2025, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ May 15 2025, 09:47 PM)
i have this fantasy that ayam become PM11 and overhaul education from kindergarden to uni. Also, I force all type M kids to learn Mandarin.

20 Years later Malaysia become Asia superpower
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We should just outsource governing to Singapore.

Every year, we pay them 5% of our GDP as management fees macam hotel management.

The we can all focus on playing politic every day rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Porkycorgi5588 @ May 16 2025, 01:09 PM)
I didnt know you were Nurul Izzah Anwar dupe

CC Nurul Izzah fanclub committee members joek hotdayum eds2 xcm

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bodo

ayam like big tete amoi, nur Izzah where got like big tete amoi?
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ May 16 2025, 01:58 PM)
bodo

ayam like big tete amoi, nur Izzah where got like big tete amoi?
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post May 16 2025, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ May 16 2025, 10:11 AM)
You no need worry la. China have no intention of taking over reserve currency role. US can maintain that. China just want a payment system that's free from US control and sanction. That's all.

Reserve currency is an exorbitant privilege that will inevitably lead to higher debt and deindustrialization.

Elaborate a bit, China wants a multipolar world to avoid falling into same world sole superpower trap that is experienced by UK and US. USD can keep its reserve currency status, while China wanna keep its industrial production capacity.
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Finally, someone points this out. Why do we want to get rid of the debtors? They're going in debt to consume what the rest of the world produces. It's a win-win. If anything, we want more of these people and more power to them so they can take on more debt.

This post has been edited by whyamiblack: May 16 2025, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Apr 7 2025, 03:23 PM)
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https://ict-pulse.com/2025/04/digital-rmb-v...ent-settlement/ - DIGITAL RMB VS SWIFT: THE EMERGING TECH-BACKED DISRUPTION OF CROSS-BORDER PAYMENT SETTLEMENT
Posted by Michele Marius | 4 Apr 2025 

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SWIFT? WHAT IS IT?

The SWIFT (Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication) system is a global messaging network that financial institutions use to securely exchange information and instructions for financial transactions, which is considered the backbone of international money transfers. ...

Due to the well-established network of over 10,000 financial institutions in over 200 countries worldwide, its robust security, standardised messaging format and interoperability across different market infrastructures, languages, networks and asset types, SWIFT has become a trusted system for international financial transactions. However, it also has some drawbacks (eg slow).

SO WHAT’S SO SPECIAL ABOUT A DIGITAL RMB?

The Chinese renminbi (RMB), which is the official currency of China, also has a digital equivalent known as the e-CNY (or Digital Currency Electronic Payment, DCEP), a central bank digital currency (CBDC) issued by the People’s Bank of China (PBOC). Similar to other CBDCs, of which we have a few in the Caribbean region, it is a digital version of the RMB, with its value pegged 1:1 to the physical or fiat currency. ....


Can you trust CCP China-owned the People's Bank Of China, their Central Bank, with your Digital RMB, eg your business funds in Digital RMB kena frozen or confiscated by CCP China for various political reasons.? Will it turn out to be another Mt Gox or FTX (Sam Bankman-Fried) wrt cryptocoin fraud.?

Let's wait-and-see if global businesses will dump Swift for Digital RMB.
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 15 2025, 09:43 PM)
Why Western media are very quiet about this?

TLDR:
- This new system is going to bypass SWIFT
- Handling fee will drop by 98% compared to SWIFT
- <10 secs clearing speed vs. 3 to 5 days for SWIFT
- Transactions are TRACEABLE unlike cryptocurrency so cannot do money laundering
- 38% of world trade volume can be settled using this cross-border system, will potentially de-value US dollar!

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My repost above fyi, and also, .......

https://coingeek.com/did-china-link-its-cbd...tern-countries/ - Did China link its CBDC to 10 ASEAN, 6 Middle Eastern countries?
25 April, 2025

.... China’s CBDC expansion reports draw scrutiny

Over the past week, a few reports, which all seem to have originated in China, claimed that the People’s Bank of China (PBoC) had announced new partners for its CBDC. The partnerships revolve around integrating the digital yuan into over a dozen countries in Southeast Asia and the Middle East.

The reports, many of which have been taken down, claimed that the integration includes 10 members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) and 6 Middle Eastern countries. However, none of the reports point to any official announcement by the PBoC or the corresponding central banks.

The specific countries were not mentioned. However, if the reports were true, Hong Kong, Thailand, the UAE and Saudi Arabia would presumably be the first to integrate the CBDC. These four states are members of mBridge, a cross-border initiative that seeks to ease funds transfer using CBDCs.

The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) was also a primary member of the project but pulled out last November. BIS cited the project’s maturity as its reason for exiting, but insiders revealed concerns about the subversion of mBridge into a BRICS system, potentially making the heavily-sanctioned Russia a primary member. ...


= Fake News or anti-USA propaganda from CCP China.?
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ May 16 2025, 08:46 AM)
That fellow dont know that partly escalate the de dollarization is because many countries finally see how SWIFT can be weaponized. In the end, no system is safe these days. Only trust on the contemporary politics....

inbe4, you bukan economist.

But at least i watch how economists commented on it.
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Didn't CCP China also just weaponized its export of critical minerals to USA, the EU and other countries.?

Do you support Russia and its allies North Korea, CCP China and Iran, the so-called New Axis Of Evil.?
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ May 16 2025, 10:11 AM)
You no need worry la. China have no intention of taking over reserve currency role. US can maintain that. China just want a payment system that's free from US control and sanction. That's all.

Reserve currency is an exorbitant privilege that will inevitably lead to higher debt and deindustrialization.

Elaborate a bit, China wants a multipolar world to avoid falling into same world sole superpower trap that is experienced by UK and US. USD can keep its reserve currency status, while China wanna keep its industrial production capacity.
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Please see my post above about the Digital Renminbi being issued and controlled by CCP China's Central Bank = the People's Bank Of China.
....... Does the SWIFT International Payment system issue and control the various currencies used to settle international trade payments.?
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QUOTE(ukiya21 @ May 16 2025, 07:26 AM)
All in la.. dollar will lose it's value. Rmb go to the moon...
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LOL while Murica accuse PRC manipulating their currency to stay low, u pulak think PRC want their currency to appreciate?


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QUOTE(Viper236 @ May 16 2025, 10:17 AM)
Ya ok so based on your explanation, the currency reserve country kennot any how nor have the authority to ban/freeze/seize other countries  from using their currency for whatever reason.

Desmond put the example of US sanction/freeze/seize asset of other countries eg Iran, Afghan & more importantly Russia who got USD 300bil of russian central bank asset but you said his understanding was "mistaken". I just don't understand what he was mistaken here
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Fyi, .......

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/eu...say-2025-05-02/ - europe-hand-billions-frozen-russian-cash to -western-investors, sources-say - 2025-05-02
BRUSSELS, May 2 (Reuters) - Euroclear plans to seize and redistribute about 3 billion euros ($3.4 billion) of Russia's funds that are frozen at the Belgian clearing firm after Moscow grabbed investor cash in Russia, according to documents seen by Reuters and people familiar with the matter.

The money will be used to compensate Western investors after Moscow seized cash held in Russia in recent months, three people said, escalating attempts by both sides to recoup billions in funds affected by the war in Ukraine. ...

The planned Belgian payout was triggered by Russian government orders to confiscate billions from Western investors last year. ....


Russian Central Bank and companies deposited money in EU banks = kena frozen and confiscated after the Ukraine-Russia War started.

European companies deposited money in Russian banks pun kena confiscated.

= "A fool and his money are soon parted."
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post May 16 2025, 06:01 PM

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so, how long will i need to wait for Speedmart99 or any big supermaket to accept Digital RMB?

10 years? 20 years? 30 years? 50 years? 100 years?
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post May 16 2025, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 16 2025, 06:00 PM)
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Fyi, .......

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/eu...say-2025-05-02/ - europe-hand-billions-frozen-russian-cash to -western-investors, sources-say - 2025-05-02
BRUSSELS, May 2 (Reuters) - Euroclear plans to seize and redistribute about 3 billion euros ($3.4 billion) of Russia's funds that are frozen at the Belgian clearing firm after Moscow grabbed investor cash in Russia, according to documents seen by Reuters and people familiar with the matter.

The money will be used to compensate Western investors after Moscow seized cash held in Russia in recent months, three people said, escalating attempts by both sides to recoup billions in funds affected by the war in Ukraine. ...

The planned Belgian payout was triggered by Russian government orders to confiscate billions from Western investors last year. ....


Russian Central Bank and companies deposited money in EU banks = kena frozen and confiscated after the Ukraine-Russia War started.

European companies deposited money in Russian banks pun kena confiscated.

= "A fool and his money are soon parted."
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The reason for confiscation is irrelevant because the original discussion is about if a reserve currency country can anyhow seize a country's asset if it doesn't align to it's foreign policy and how it affects the dollar trust and encourage other country to diversity it's reserve currency.

If one day my country suddenly not align with US policy like the NATO expansion for Russia, am I at risk of keeping US dollar? If Israel attacked Msia and we retaliate, US can anyhow freeze our US dollar reserves?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 16 2025, 05:40 PM)
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Didn't CCP China also just weaponized its export of critical minerals to USA, the EU and other countries.?

Do you support Russia and its allies North Korea, CCP China and Iran, the so-called New Axis Of Evil.?
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Really? you trying look for the good guy in their fights?
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QUOTE((Blackscreamerz @ May 16 2025 @ 08:46 AM)
That fellow dont know that partly escalate the de dollarization is because many countries finally see how SWIFT can be weaponized. In the end, no system is safe these days. Only trust on the contemporary politics....

inbe4, you bukan economist.

But at least i watch how economists commented on it.
QUOTE((lurkingaround @ May 16 2025, 05:40 PM)
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Didn't CCP China also just weaponized its export of critical minerals to USA, the EU and other countries.?

Do you support Russia and its allies North Korea, CCP China and Iran, the so-called New Axis Of Evil.?
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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ May 19 2025, 08:44 AM)
Really? you trying look for the good guy in their fights?
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In this trade war and Russia-Ukraine War, I look at USA and its allies (= the EU, UK, South Korea, Japan, etc) as less evil than CCP China and its allies (= North Korea, Iran, Russia, Cuba, Hamas, etc), ...
....similar to WW1 & 2 between the less evil British Empire and its allies (= French, Dutch, USA, etc) vs the German Empire and its allies (= Italy, Imperial Japan, Turkey, etc)

IOW, Allies Of Less Evil vs Axis Of Evil.
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ May 15 2025, 10:47 PM)
i have this fantasy that ayam become PM11 and overhaul education from kindergarden to uni. Also, I force all type M kids to learn Mandarin.

20 Years later Malaysia become Asia superpower
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Does your fantasy include you masuk jail eat curry rice
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 16 2025, 06:40 PM)
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Didn't CCP China also just weaponized its export of critical minerals to USA, the EU and other countries.?

Do you support Russia and its allies North Korea, CCP China and Iran, the so-called New Axis Of Evil.?
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What did Russia, North Korea, Iran and China do until they deserve to be called Axis of Evil?

Which country is causing wars everywhere and they are the good guys?
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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 19 2025, 02:44 PM)
What did Russia, North Korea, Iran and China do until they deserve to be called Axis of Evil?

Which country is causing wars everywhere and they are the good guys?
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Didn't CCP China, Russia and Iran (= masterminds) support and fund the very evil Hamas, Houthi and Hezbollah terrorists.?
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