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post May 17 2025, 09:02 AM

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post May 17 2025, 09:34 AM

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imo boleh je pakai ai settle assignment. Yang penting you faham apa,kenapa,bagaimana,etc...

Cikgu pulak, kena tukak cara grading.
Odinn
post May 17 2025, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 17 2025, 12:55 AM)
Spoonfeed? What is the purpose of attending school? To learn the theory or method right?

You mean if AI outlines the steps of how to solve an equation in detail one line after another is spoonfeeding the student? When as a teacher you pride yourself setting difficult questions but will not reveal the solution in detail is a respectable act?

Would you rather be spoonfed but learn something without beating round the bush or you would rather attend class taught by a gaji buta teacher who doesn't care if you grasp the lesson but rather blabs throughout the class talking to the whiteboard and then leaves when class is over?

Experts this and that what use of an expert who keeps all his knowledge to himself and take free money just for publicity sake?

When the classroom is scratching heads most of the time confused with his teachings?
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Don't know your experience with teachers but my time in school, they do answer questions and explain until it's understood. Text books and reference books are there to further detail things out. Teachers are not meant to "pride themselves over difficult exam questions", when did this happen. If a student fails to grasp lessons and fails exams, parents and guardians should then step in and objectively assess the exam questions.

QUOTE(zenix @ May 17 2025, 01:17 AM)
that generation will blame the current generation when they're in the 40's with reducing prospects.
same like how millenials moan that boomers and genx blocking their path upwards.
boomers are selfish and think they will live forever and want everything.
genx trying to keep up.
mils left far behind.
current genx and mils that work hard and use AI as a tool will be the generation blocking the AI generation.
ai is already being used to do all the low level and intern work.
so the next generation coming to the work force need to really excel by jumping over the usual low level and intern roles.
but if they just think acing academics with ai the waltz into working life, they're in for a rude awakening.
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This is exactly the point. The unregulated use of AI to simply score when they don't even know the answer in the first place. If they think they can leave it all to AI to deal with their schoolwork now, what edge can they bring to a job that AI can't. Use it for the menial tasks, interm or junior level yes. If it's expected to do everything, then the job is redundant no.

Or maybe once the world no longer has any boomers and genx alive, and it's the gen y and similar only, maybe things will be different, who knows.

This post has been edited by Odinn: May 17 2025, 10:27 AM
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post May 17 2025, 09:44 AM

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Teacher no need so angry. Just a job anyway, I think he deeply cares about his students future but fuck them, not all students are good and salvageable.

Let them pass, give them good grades, if the society needs AI for work, students earn it, if no, society will teach them.

As per the teacher, his kpi is to pass the grades and keep his job

This post has been edited by littlegamer: May 17 2025, 09:45 AM
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post May 17 2025, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 14 2025, 06:30 PM)
if every students uses AI, all their assignment will look identical

and they learnt nothing laugh.gif

almost all schools and uni today have AI detection system
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Overrated. How many ppl even rmbr how to do the maths, sains, kemistry, fisics they do back in school time? They maybe learned it and scored that time but in the end also forgotten. In the all just memorize and vomit out during exam.

But society still evaluate based on grades and standardised exam. If grades no gooding, cannot get into good school cannot choose what to study and will start career lower celery.

So unker say is best to use ai to get the 'A' on the subject they don't enjoy so they can focus learning on the thing they interested in.
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post May 17 2025, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Freshmeat21 @ May 14 2025, 06:16 PM)
why hire graduates when you can just use AI and robots that can work 24/7?  icon_idea.gif
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If no need for graduates, why study uni?
If no need to study uni, why need lecturer?

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post May 17 2025, 10:18 AM

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It is still possible to force students....

for example. it is about cycle of rain.

Tell them to make an essay about it, knowingly that they will use AI

The most important is to tell them to make detailed hand drawings about the cycle of rain, based on their essay.

So, they will be forced to read the essay....easy.
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post May 17 2025, 10:42 AM

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AI is for lazy idiots
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post May 17 2025, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ May 17 2025, 10:11 AM)
If no need for graduates, why study uni?
If no need to study uni, why need lecturer?

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These students depended on AI for their assignments, learnt nothing in uni, after graduate their value will be less than AI.

After that complain AI taking over their job, salary is rm2k, no jobs etc
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ May 14 2025, 08:06 PM)
most teachers still cannot accept the fact AI has revolutionize how kids and people in general access and uses information

it's like how candle light makers hated lightbulbs
it's like how horse breeders hated cars

there is no stopping this. best for the teacher themselves to adapt to the changing world
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post May 17 2025, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(deejay_krish @ May 17 2025, 10:42 AM)
AI is for lazy idiots
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You're wrong an obsessed and interested student who uses AI to learn what he wants 24/7 all day long giving him full personal attention is still better than hiring a private tutor by the hour.

Way much cheaper and unbiased as well.

Define what you mean by lazy.. if the student solves all the question directly copying from the solution provided by AI then you can call him lazy.

But if you have one which is an otaku who is a fanatic of the subject everyday uses AI to further his curiosity to learn more than the books, you call him what? Genius?

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post May 18 2025, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Odinn @ May 17 2025, 09:40 AM)
Don't know your experience with teachers but my time in school, they do answer questions and explain until it's understood. Text books and reference books are there to further detail things out. Teachers are not meant to "pride themselves over difficult exam questions", when did this happen. If a student fails to grasp lessons and fails exams, parents and guardians should then step in and objectively assess the exam questions.
This is exactly the point. The unregulated use of AI to simply score when they don't even know the answer in the first place. If they think they can leave it all to AI to deal with their schoolwork now, what edge can they bring to a job that AI can't. Use it for the menial tasks, interm or junior level yes. If it's expected to do everything, then the job is redundant no.

Or maybe once the world no longer has any boomers and genx alive, and it's the gen y and similar only, maybe things will be different, who knows.
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that is the dangerous thing.
i know many programmers now heavily use AI for MVP then debug.
if students use ai and dunno how to debug.
where is their value in the job kan?
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post May 18 2025, 02:48 PM

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Northeastern Student Demanded Her Tuition Fees Back After Catching Her Professor Using OpenAI’s ChatGPT
https://www.newsweek.com/college-ai-student...chatgpt-2073192

The Professors Are Using ChatGPT, and Some Students Aren’t Happy About It
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/14/technolo...-professors.htm



How about the lecturers and professors themselves using ChatGPT to prepare lecture notes and their study materials.

Their days are numbered now.

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