Crashed in 2014.
Debris recovered in Teal (as of 2020), decision made with insufficient evidence. Sad.

UN Rules MH17 Shot By Russia
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May 13 2025, 02:30 PM
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May 14 2025, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ May 14 2025, 01:00 PM) I trust on the observation how bias UN and EU is being against Russia for a long time now. I totally second this...Basically they group up and try to gang bully Russia while EU leaders love to role play pretending heroes while depending on Russia for energy. Honestly I can see that before Trump 2nd term, EU is basically trying to lick USA's previous administrations which are heavily anti-Russia for such a long time since Reagan era that now Trump administration want to be friends back with Russia by flipping the whole board reset which made EU countries now scrambling like headless chickens but still trying to act tough. Examples are look at Ursula von de Leyen, Macron, Starmer, Merz, Carney and the rest who absolutely cannot even stand on equal ground with Trump and USA but always like to pretend they have the upperhand when making speeches. This is pure shameless hypocrisy. Let's not even begin to get into the Ukraine-Russia conflict issues on how shameless EU is acting in their decisions. PS: Forgot to add most recent evidence on how untrustworthy EU investigations are you just need to see the Nord Stream bombing being inconclusive when clearly many EU countries are involved evidently in the bombing, so they cover it up as inconclusive no further action and Russia still bad guy. Hell they even wanted to say Russia bomb its own Nord Stream pipelines to play victim. Hilarious. What if an independent country conducted the investigation or was part of the investigation? Made it independent, away from the interest of ANY countries involved directly or indirectly to the Russo-Ukraine conflict? The outcome would have potentially be different. China or India for eg. instead :In the MH17 Joint Investigation Team (JIT), the Netherlands, Australia, Malaysia, Belgium and Ukraine work together on the criminal investigation into the plane crash. This post has been edited by sivanesanveeraya: May 14 2025, 01:57 PM 6942nole liked this post
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May 14 2025, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(empyreal @ May 14 2025, 02:09 PM) India and China are part of the ICAO Council. It's not like the investigation team issued the finding without their management's approval. The case centered on allegations that the conduct of the Russian Federation in the downing of the aircraft by a surface-to-air missile over eastern Ukraine constitutes a breach of Article 3 bis of the Convention on International Civil Aviation, which requires that States “refrain from resorting to the use of weapons against civil aircraft in flight."BUK made in Russia, not denying that. Usage in Ukraine, by a certain parties. Russia is blamed to be at fault? c'mon... So, microchips powering the drones that attacked Ukraine in the recent Russia-Ukraine war, are from the top semiconductor companies listed on Nasdaq and NYSE. Should ICAO now accuse vice versa? https://kse.ua/about-the-school/news/kse-in...nctions-regime/ We should wait and see who voted for and against the ICAO judgement. Waiting for the actual results... The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) has 193 member states, hitting 98 countries, will give you a majority vote. This post has been edited by sivanesanveeraya: May 14 2025, 03:41 PM |
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May 16 2025, 09:00 AM
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Malaysian prime minister Anwar Ibrahim raised the issue of downing of a Malaysian Airlines flight with Russian president Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of his bilateral visit to Moscow that was overshadowed by the UN report on the 2014 crash.
The UN aviation council ruled that Russia was responsible for the downing of the flight MH17 which killed 289 people nearly 11 years ago. The Kremlin has always denied any responsibility into the aviation tragedy, for which the victims of the families have continued to call for justice. Moscow last week rejected the International Civil Aviation Organisation Council's (ICAO) ruling, calling it biased. On Wednesday, Mr Anwar said Mr Putin expressed condolences to the families of those killed, which included 196 Dutch citizens, 43 Malaysians, and 38 Australian citizens or residents. Mr Putin insisted on a meticulous and thorough investigation on the incident that was free from political influence, Mr Anwar said. "I mentioned that this is a report made by ICAO, to which he (Putin) replied that from the beginning, he had requested that the investigation be independent and thorough,” the Malaysian premier said on Facebook. "Malaysia remains resolute in ensuring accountability and a just resolution for the victims and their families who continue to bear the weight of this tragedy," he said. He said Mr Putin dismissed claims that Russia was reluctant to cooperate in the investigation, and said that the Kremlin was prepared to engage with bodies it deemed impartial. “Russia is ready to provide all cooperation to ensure that the report was more credible or authoritative,” he told reporters. Talks became a significant talking point during Mr Anwar’s three-day visit to Russia which was aimed at strengthening cooperation in areas such as trade and investment, agriculture, education, aerospace and energy. On Wednesday, the son of the pilot on the fateful Malaysian Airlines flight demanded justice into the e “senseless downing” of the flight. He called it “an act of violence that claimed 298 innocent lives and shattered countless families”, according to Malaysian outlet The Star. This post has been edited by sivanesanveeraya: May 16 2025, 09:01 AM |
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