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post May 13 2025, 10:38 AM, updated 8 months ago

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Anyone an owner of the e.Mas7 here?

went and test drove the Premium variant yesterday and it's quite appealing for its price range - planned to buy one for the experience and to also do some "heavy lifting" (eg: the occasionally IKEA buys etc.) that otherwise couldn't with my liftback.

any negative feedbacks?

so far, there are only 3 things that i instantly dislike; the grey/white headliner, the odd shaped steering wheel and the sound system (bad even).

This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: May 13 2025, 10:39 AM
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post May 13 2025, 10:41 AM

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Better go facebook group can get you more feedback than lowyat.

The reviews are positively good and lots of them say
once you go EV you can't go back

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post May 13 2025, 10:43 AM

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Two of my colleagues are driving it. None make any complaint yet
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Boss yhtan is an owner here
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post May 13 2025, 10:44 AM

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post May 13 2025, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 13 2025, 10:41 AM)
Better go facebook group can get you more feedback than lowyat.

The reviews are positively good and lots of them say
once you go EV you can't go back

OWAI
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oh, the FB groups are opened to public? Thought they were closed to owners only.

the instant torque is indeed exhilarating but i don't think that will win me over ICE (maybe in time), i still somehow prefer cars that "growls".
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Motion sickness

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post May 13 2025, 10:46 AM

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There is a reason why its best selling EV now. Just buy. Planning to do so myself soon, after installing solar for home.
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post May 13 2025, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(katijar @ May 13 2025, 10:44 AM)
Need buy 2
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why so?

breakdown often?

no engine, no gears and very little moving parts thought.

then again, this is not my main car so ....
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post May 13 2025, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 13 2025, 10:45 AM)
Motion sickness

Can kolos tered
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motion sickness - care to explain?

huyung-hayang ke?

i put my girlfriend on the back seat and drove through bumps and took some rather sharp corners (albeit not fast), she said comfortable D:

QUOTE(krishtiano86 @ May 13 2025, 10:46 AM)
There is a reason why its best selling EV now. Just buy. Planning to do so myself soon, after installing solar for home.
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i have solar installed but kena ICPT every month -.-
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post May 13 2025, 10:48 AM

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Sound system is pretty good. How did u test it?
Won't say its crazy good but definitely not bad
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:48 AM)

i have solar installed but kena ICPT every month -.-
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Rebate or surcharge?
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post May 13 2025, 10:51 AM

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Only annoying thing so far to me is got some sound coming from inside the door, common cause reported seems to be dangling wire inside door panel and some nut slightly loose

but so far other ppl seem to able to get it solved at SC no issue, I plan to get it resolved together at first service, just living with it for now

otherwise nothing much negative, pretty pleasant experience so far
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post May 13 2025, 10:52 AM

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post May 13 2025, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 10:48 AM)
Sound system is pretty good. How did u test it?
Won't say its crazy good but definitely not bad
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i tested 4 songs; Pop, Classical, Lo-Fi and add in some of my favorites (RADWIMPS etc.) - they were passable. the lows are very muddy, the mids were blurry and the highs were very "distant".

i pitched them against the BOSE on my liftback and the e.Mas7 cannot hold a candle to it BUT it's expected for a RM120k vehicle. i was just a bit disappointed as Proton advertised the sound system quite aggressively.

the subpar CKD CX-30 speakers were a little bit better.
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post May 13 2025, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:45 AM)
oh, the FB groups are opened to public? Thought they were closed to owners only.

the instant torque is indeed exhilarating but i don't think that will win me over ICE (maybe in time), i still somehow prefer cars that "growls".
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open to public, just need to request. i'm not an owner but in the group so i have better view from the owners.

also ikea hauls are not that heavy.
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post May 13 2025, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(krishtiano86 @ May 13 2025, 10:50 AM)
Rebate or surcharge?
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surcharge ler, every month also overused. kena ICPT for the entire kWh.

QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 10:51 AM)
Only annoying thing so far to me is got some sound coming from inside the door, common cause reported seems to be dangling wire inside door panel and some nut slightly loose

but so far other ppl seem to able to get it solved at SC no issue, I plan to get it resolved together at first service, just living with it for now

otherwise nothing much negative, pretty pleasant experience so far
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yeah, rattles are my main concern actually especially when there's no engine noise to masked it. this is one of the reason that hindered me from buying an EV, i cannot stand even the slightest of rattles but i can make do IF the sound system is good enough to over look it.

is the "sound" a kind of rattle or what?
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:54 AM)
i tested 4 songs; Pop, Classical, Lo-Fi and add in some of my favorites (RADWIMPS etc.) - they were passable. the lows are very muddy, the mids were blurry and the highs were very "distant".

i pitched them against the BOSE on my liftback and the e.Mas7 cannot hold a candle to it BUT it's expected for a RM120k vehicle. i was just a bit disappointed as Proton advertised the sound system quite aggressively.

the subpar CKD CX-30 speakers were a little bit better.
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by default yea i agree

there's a basic eq in the settings that you can adjust to make it a little better
there's also a virtual surround setting that works pretty well for certain genres only
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:56 AM)
surcharge ler, every month also overused. kena ICPT for the entire kWh.
yeah, rattles are my main concern actually especially when there's no engine noise to masked it. this is one of the reason that hindered me from buying an EV, i cannot stand even the slightest of rattles but i can make do IF the sound system is good enough to over look it.

is the "sound" a kind of rattle or what?
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Buy lah GET

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QUOTE(slaveone @ May 13 2025, 10:55 AM)
open to public, just need to request. i'm not an owner but in the group so i have better view from the owners.

also ikea hauls are not that heavy.
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can share which one to join? a lot of results came up from FB search.

am not concern with weight but length / space, my liftback is basically finished with a 24" and a hand carry. the rest have to go on the rear passenger seats. length wise, it's just ngam-ngam for a 120cm ironing board (diagonally) with the rear seats folded down.

i need something that i don't mind having the interior scratched.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:56 AM)
yeah, rattles are my main concern actually especially when there's no engine noise to masked it. this is one of the reason that hindered me from buying an EV, i cannot stand even the slightest of rattles but i can make do IF the sound system is good enough to over look it.

is the "sound" a kind of rattle or what?
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at least for my case i can hear that one is coming from driver door dangling wire hitting against the wall kinda sound. others also seem to have that but resolvable at SC by taping down the loose wires.
another one coming from rear driver side sounds like loose nut and the joint not tight sound, not really rattling per se
but at least can pinpoint where its coming from and from others' experiences seems like able to get resolved at SC
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post May 13 2025, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 10:58 AM)
by default yea i agree

there's a basic eq in the settings that you can adjust to make it a little better
there's also a virtual surround setting that works pretty well for certain genres only
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tested the sounds with the EQ set - it's a little bit better when tested with the unit in the showroom (quieter environment) but becomes very unpleasantly noisy when driving on the road.

the sound distortion is quite bad when the volume is turned up past half.

QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 11:00 AM)
Buy lah GET
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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 13 2025, 10:41 AM)
Better go facebook group can get you more feedback than lowyat.
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i say here WAYYYY better
not sayin FB not good
matter of preference more like it
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post May 13 2025, 11:06 AM

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Car looks good but this seem like same plastic quality issues that plague X-series too.

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lol, emas dgn heavy lighting tiada bersamaan
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post May 13 2025, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 13 2025, 11:00 AM)
I waiting 2nd unit next year
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why next year?

QUOTE(akecema @ May 13 2025, 11:02 AM)
battery 300km saja
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SA said around 400km?

QUOTE(kaizoku30 @ May 13 2025, 11:02 AM)
Buy 2 unit.
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why?

QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 11:02 AM)
at least for my case i can hear that one is coming from driver door dangling wire hitting against the wall kinda sound. others also seem to have that but resolvable at SC by taping down the loose wires.
another one coming from rear driver side sounds like loose nut and the joint not tight sound, not really rattling per se
but at least can pinpoint where its coming from and from others' experiences seems like able to get resolved at SC
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T_T am getting fidgety already just by reading all these and imagining hearing the noise when i'm driving. then again, the thought of lying flat in the car at night with the sunroof opened completely with climate control is quite relaxing.
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 11:00 AM)
Buy lah GET
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what is GET?
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 13 2025, 10:45 AM)
Motion sickness

Can kolos tered
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Just got mine
0-100 or 160..no motion sickness

So far so good, comfortable, silent and crazy torgue (acceleration)

Aircond quite nice

Only annoying things are the ice cream van sound and radio station can't be locked (always return to non fav/lower frequency radio)
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:07 AM)
the thought of lying flat in the car at night with the sunroof opened completely with climate control is quite relaxing.
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interesting feature
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post May 13 2025, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(marvinben @ May 13 2025, 11:06 AM)
Car looks good but this seem like same plastic quality issues that plague X-series too.

user posted image
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are these common occurrences?

then again, if these are simple fixes then i can live with it.

QUOTE(karazure @ May 13 2025, 11:06 AM)
lol, emas dgn heavy lighting tiada bersamaan
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apa maksud?

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:08 AM)
are these common occurrences?

then again, if these are simple fixes then i can live with it.
apa maksud?
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:07 AM)
SA said around 400km?
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topkek these ppl buat hal only

yes from experience the WLTP 410km is achievable if u just drive moderately conservatively
if u drive normally (but not too aggressive) then I'd say around 360-380km

So to me its like normally I will just drive without caring too much about the range but at least i know when push comes to shove if i really need to maximize the range i can really get at least 400km out of it
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atm.. any EV if you charge outside. It's cost will be higher or same as ICE.

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btw.. confirm dee TNB gonna raise tariff start july?

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:08 AM)
are these common occurrences?

then again, if these are simple fixes then i can live with it.
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been in groups for months this is the first occurrence of this i've seen of this
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 11:09 AM)
topkek these ppl buat hal only

yes from experience the WLTP 410km is achievable if u just drive moderately conservatively
if u drive normally (but not too aggressive) then I'd say around 360-380km

So to me its like normally I will just drive without caring too much about the range but at least i know when push comes to shove if i really need to maximize the range i can really get at least 400km out of it
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for which version?
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 13 2025, 11:11 AM)
for which version?
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premium

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:08 AM)
are these common occurrences?

then again, if these are simple fixes then i can live with it.
apa maksud?
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Ya. Easy fix just epoxy back.

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 11:09 AM)
topkek these ppl buat hal only

yes from experience the WLTP 410km is achievable if u just drive moderately conservatively
if u drive normally (but not too aggressive) then I'd say around 360-380km

So to me its like normally I will just drive without caring too much about the range but at least i know when push comes to shove if i really need to maximize the range i can really get at least 400km out of it
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360km - 380km is a good range.

not sure about others but i particularly like to see the battery charged up during regenerative breaking/downhill drive - looking how the battery fills up is kinda satisfying (eHEV in the HR-V).
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:07 AM)
T_T am getting fidgety already just by reading all these and imagining hearing the noise when i'm driving. then again, the thought of lying flat in the car at night with the sunroof opened completely with climate control is quite relaxing.
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the sounds for me only noticeable when on uneven roads mostly

smooth cruising time not coming up

either way planning to get it fixed at first service 3months/5k km
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it's either very good or too soon to say anything yet

few days ago at shah alam, i saw a X90 reverse parking...i can hear very loud kluk kluk kluk noise from it's steering rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(and85rew @ May 13 2025, 11:08 AM)
Just got mine
0-100 or 160..no motion sickness

So far so good, comfortable, silent and crazy torgue (acceleration)

Aircond quite nice

Only annoying things are the ice cream van sound and radio station can't be locked (always return to non fav/lower frequency radio)
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160 is damn fast - the last time i did 160kmph with a car was close to 10 years ago on the NSE heading to Johor. my heart races at 140kmph now.

i floored the pedal during the test drive and heard tire spin :kek:

i heard Proton is releasing a OTA fix for the ice-cream truck sound right?

QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 13 2025, 11:08 AM)
interesting feature
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indeed but apparently the SA said the flatbed feature is only found on the Premium, the lower end takrak.


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 13 2025, 11:15 AM)
it's either very good or too soon to say anything yet

few days ago at shah alam, i saw a X90 reverse parking...i can hear very loud kluk kluk kluk noise from it's steering rclxub.gif
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bushing or steering rack?
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:07 AM)
why next year?
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Cheaper.
EV resale drop like a rock stone with super gravity. Of course wait at bottom.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:18 AM)
bushing or steering rack?
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i don't know

i only know it's NOT normal rclxub.gif
for such a new car...should not have kluk kluk noise when you turn the steering
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QUOTE(pobox @ May 13 2025, 10:43 AM)
Two of my colleagues are driving it. None make any complaint yet
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Masih baru kot. Problem comes in after 6 months fastest to 1 year plus.
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QUOTE(pobox @ May 13 2025, 10:43 AM)
Two of my colleagues are driving it. None make any complaint yet
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u same office as joek ? rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 13 2025, 11:19 AM)
Cheaper.
EV resale drop like a rock stone with super gravity. Of course wait at bottom.
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if it's good, would the market be flooded with it? also, you're buying it with the battery degradation, worth it?

QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 13 2025, 11:20 AM)
i don't know

i only know it's NOT normal rclxub.gif
for such a new car...should not have kluk kluk noise when you turn the steering
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like most Hondas nowadays, heard alot of the new Civic owners complaining steering rack problems, all less than 6 months or so.

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QUOTE(and85rew @ May 13 2025, 11:08 AM)
Just got mine
0-100 or 160..no motion sickness

So far so good, comfortable, silent and crazy torgue (acceleration)

Aircond quite nice

Only annoying things are the ice cream van sound and radio station can't be locked (always return to non fav/lower frequency radio)
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Ice cream van sound is real turn off.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:17 AM)
160 is damn fast - the last time i did 160kmph with a car was close to 10 years ago on the NSE heading to Johor. my heart races at 140kmph now.

i floored the pedal during the test drive and heard tire spin :kek:

i heard Proton is releasing a OTA fix for the ice-cream truck sound right?
indeed but apparently the SA said the flatbed feature is only found on the Premium, the lower end takrak.
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Indeed..rarely achieved that with prev ICE car unless on highway. Somehow, emas7 or EV can achieve this speed with ease.
Just tested that day and surprised at the performance.
The torgue is higher than even Civic..even Hilux having hard time to catch up rclxub.gif

Just go for Premium. That extra 70km range and other features are worthy.

I used the rebate savings on tinting and coating rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(and85rew @ May 13 2025, 11:08 AM)
Just got mine
0-100 or 160..no motion sickness

So far so good, comfortable, silent and crazy torgue (acceleration)

Aircond quite nice

Only annoying things are the ice cream van sound and radio station can't be locked (always return to non fav/lower frequency radio)
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Ice cream van sound is real turn off. Other ghan tham that the car is ok.

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QUOTE(and85rew @ May 13 2025, 11:26 AM)
Indeed..rarely achieved that with prev ICE car unless on highway. Somehow, emas7 or EV can achieve this speed with ease.
Just tested that day and surprised at the performance.
The torgue is higher than even Civic..even Hilux having hard time to catch up rclxub.gif

Just go for Premium. That extra 70km range and other features are worthy.

I used the rebate savings on tinting and coating rclxm9.gif
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yeah, i intend to got the Premium (if decided), it's just about RM10k extra only.

don't intend to coat the car, probably just tint. it's going to be the "beat-up" car for me.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:31 AM)
yeah, i intend to got the Premium (if decided), it's just about RM10k extra only.

don't intend to coat the car, probably just tint. it's going to be the "beat-up" car for me.
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Diff is like 100+ per month
Better go all out or regret later tongue.gif
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QUOTE(and85rew @ May 13 2025, 11:26 AM)
Indeed..rarely achieved that with prev ICE car unless on highway. Somehow, emas7 or EV can achieve this speed with ease.
Just tested that day and surprised at the performance.
The torgue is higher than even Civic..even Hilux having hard time to catch up rclxub.gif

Just go for Premium. That extra 70km range and other features are worthy.

I used the rebate savings on tinting and coating rclxm9.gif
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boss u took premium or prime?
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Diff is like 100+ per month
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haha yeah, go big or go home kan?

i don't intend to take loan though, feels like not worth it. national cars the interest higher - kalau tak silap saya.
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Premium eMas7 Lithium White owner here.
Used about 3 weeks now.

Surveyed SUV market 120-150k range for quite sometime, lastly took emas7.

My experience so far been excellent. Alot of positive things to talk about this car actually.

Range:
My driving pattern can hit reported WLTP easily (410km) with 12kwh/100km driving consumption. 100% city drive within 50-100km/h (average 30km/h). EV are most efficient in city drive. If you drive 140km/h+ most of the time, you have to adjust your expectation.

Sound system:
Sounds great. Not sure why you complain muddy. Use the internal Spotify app, Bluetooth connection tends to reduce the sound quality.

Steering:
Looks odd initially, but you come to appreciate the design as you use ICC (autopilot) and you can rest both hands on the steering wheel on the flat 6oclock side.

Rattling:
Didn't hear much. Only certain bumpy road can hear very faint rattling noise on the plastic door trim. Mainly also due to how quiet the car is so you will notice every single noise. I hear way worse on my honda city.

Negative:
-That icecream truck sound. Really wish the update comes sooner
-Overzealous speed warning system. Turn on by default, and the off option resets everytime you leave the car. Pro net will "fixed" this in future update.




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Big spacious practical car.

Nothing flashy.

Design also on the safe side.

No one gonna say its the prettiest or the ugliest.

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:35 AM)
i don't intend to take loan though, feels like not worth it. national cars the interest higher - kalau tak silap saya.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:48 AM)
motion sickness - care to explain?

huyung-hayang ke?

i put my girlfriend on the back seat and drove through bumps and took some rather sharp corners (albeit not fast), she said comfortable D:
i have solar installed but kena ICPT every month -.-
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The drive feel 'floating' especially on sharp cornering, uneven road, not feeling firm and planted to the road. Nearly all CCP EV feels like that. I've tried eMas7, Atto 3, Sealion 7.

Straight line - nice with high pickup and below 8s for 0-100km/h notworthy.gif
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My feedback after full week of ownership

1. Definitely feel it's a bit floaty, might be might 1st SUV, but it's not a great feeling to have.
2. Ice cream definitely annoying, as it creeps into the cabin. Probably gonna wrap the speaker or disconnect it if the future SW update is bad.
3. Radio not keeping is annoying, but I'm using Spotify anyway.

Other than that, It's been and enjoyable ride. Especially since I'm upgrading from a Persona.
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 13 2025, 11:26 AM)
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Its just a simple wire unplug, doesnt effect anything else

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QUOTE(hikashi @ May 13 2025, 11:37 AM)
Premium eMas7 Lithium White owner here.
Used about 3 weeks now.

Surveyed SUV market 120-150k range for quite sometime, lastly took emas7.

My experience so far been excellent. Alot of positive things to talk about this car actually.

Range:
My driving pattern can hit reported WLTP easily (410km) with 12kwh/100km driving consumption. 100% city drive within 50-100km/h (average 30km/h). EV are most efficient in city drive. If you drive 140km/h+ most of the time, you have to adjust your expectation.

Sound system:
Sounds great. Not sure why you complain muddy. Use the internal Spotify app, Bluetooth connection tends to reduce the sound quality.

Steering:
Looks odd initially, but you come to appreciate the design as you use ICC (autopilot) and you can rest both hands on the steering wheel on the flat 6oclock side.

Rattling:
Didn't hear much. Only certain bumpy road can hear very faint rattling noise on the plastic door trim. Mainly also due to how quiet the car is so you will notice every single noise. I hear way worse on my honda city.

Negative:
-That icecream truck sound. Really wish the update comes sooner
-Overzealous speed warning system. Turn on by default, and the off option resets everytime you leave the car. Pro net will "fixed" this in future update.
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Range:
Nice to hear that the achievable range per charge is pretty consistent.

Sound system:
Bluetooth does reduce sound quality but not to the extend that it is noticeable or perhaps i'm spoilt with the BOSE that i have in my liftback but in any event, can't expect a lot from a RM120k vehicle. it's good enough, just a slight annoyance that it wasn't better.

Steering:
it's odd no matter how i look at it, i opine it would definitely look better with a more traditional looking design. with the traditional design - i can rest my hands comfortably at the 5oclock position with my elbow rest on the side armrest. then again, it's an EV - it's supposed to be quirky i guess. have to just live with it if i bought one.

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:25 AM)
if it's good, would the market be flooded with it? also, you're buying it with the battery degradation, worth it?
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Most cars are underused anyway.

Pick low mileage, plus LFP battery with 3,500 rated cycles.
1 Cycle = 300km (Assume all time drive like maniac), that's 1 million km.
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QUOTE(haturaya @ May 13 2025, 11:39 AM)
The drive feel 'floating' especially on sharp cornering, uneven road, not feeling firm and planted to the road. Nearly all CCP EV feels like that. I've tried eMas7, Atto 3, Sealion 7.

Straight line - nice with high pickup and below 8s for 0-100km/h  notworthy.gif
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i see, then i guess no high speed cornering then.

QUOTE(Icehart @ May 13 2025, 11:44 AM)
Battery degradation = Engine degradation. No engine last a lifetime.
Most cars are underused anyway.

Pick low mileage, plus LFP battery with 3,500 rated cycles.
1 Cycle = 300km (Assume all time drive like maniac), that's 1 million km.
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thought battery degradation = less range with each charge?

with engine "degration", you just get wear and tear (eg: gaskets, spark plugs etc.) but when replaced, they are basically back to how they were?

low mileage EVs won't depreciate a lot right since the demand is going to be high?


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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:48 AM)
i see, then i guess no high speed cornering then.
thought battery degradation = less range with each charge?

with engine "degration", you just get wear and tear (eg: gaskets, spark plugs etc.) but when replaced, they are basically back to how they were?

low mileage EVs won't depreciate a lot right since the demand is going to be high?
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You want engine back to stock condition that is overhaul already.
For 100k car, easily RM 10-15k.

In 5 years time, that could be battery price (if we assume the drop in price of battery is passed down to consumers).

Anyway, this car suitable for city dwellers and maybe 1-2x out of KL trip/annum.
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EMas 7 doesn't have this problem

It slows down like ICE when you lift your foot from the acceleration pedal

It's doesn't move/stop instantly like tesla

QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 13 2025, 10:45 AM)
Motion sickness

Can kolos tered
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:38 AM)
Anyone an owner of the e.Mas7 here?

went and test drove the Premium variant yesterday and it's quite appealing for its price range - planned to buy one for the experience and to also do some "heavy lifting" (eg: the occasionally IKEA buys etc.) that otherwise couldn't with my liftback.

any negative feedbacks?

so far, there are only 3 things that i instantly dislike; the grey/white headliner, the odd shaped steering wheel and the sound system (bad even).
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ May 13 2025, 10:43 AM)
Boss yhtan is an owner here
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ayam baru beli satu, got it a day before raya.

Few days ago baru use to carry vase, heavy vase which weight about 15kg, place 2 on the back and the trunk can fit it without breaking the floor.

QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:45 AM)
oh, the FB groups are opened to public? Thought they were closed to owners only.

the instant torque is indeed exhilarating but i don't think that will win me over ICE (maybe in time), i still somehow prefer cars that "growls".
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there is a open public group for emas 7 owner at FB

Seeing u driving from Mazda, Mazda sound insulation is pretty good with the double coated glass. Emas 7 is really quiet from 0-80km/h which i think geely has done well on the sound insulation, the only drawback is emas 7 using single coated glass and the wind noise is significant if u drive above 90-100km/h.

As for the instant torque it is enjoyable, easy to overtake but now i tend to chill driving and listen to music.

QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 13 2025, 10:45 AM)
Motion sickness

Can kolos tered
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Motion sickness 404, janji regen level not at high level, medium is sufficient for KL traffic.
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ May 13 2025, 11:34 AM)
boss u took premium or prime?
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QUOTE(GagalLand @ May 13 2025, 11:53 AM)
EMas 7 doesn't have this problem

It slows down like ICE when you lift your foot from the acceleration pedal

It's doesn't move/stop instantly like tesla
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yep and can adjust lower settings so its even less aggressive

doesn't affect efficiency much because when u start pressing brake pedal it will use regen braking first before using actual brake pads

so just depends what kind of driving behavior

i recommend getting used to the high regen settings, once get the hang of it confirm won't motion sickness, can release pedal partially and look at the power bar to control the deceleration better, don't straight take foot off 100%

not an issue once get used to it
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:48 AM)
i see, then i guess no high speed cornering then.

thought battery degradation = less range with each charge?

with engine "degration", you just get wear and tear (eg: gaskets, spark plugs etc.) but when replaced, they are basically back to how they were?

low mileage EVs won't depreciate a lot right since the demand is going to be high?
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Battery degrades once it leaves the manufacturing floor. It's chemistry. LiFePO4 (LFP) most probably degrades more due to time ageing than charge / discharge cycle. For example LFP rated for 3000 cycle. One cycle - 300km. That's nearly a million kms. No way one can drives that far in 10 years.

I've built my own small LFP battery pack for my outdoor aquarium + small solar panel. It's been charging / discharging on daily basis for past 2 years. The capacity still as good as new. Virtually no degradation. thumbup.gif

Just buy the EV and enjoy newly found instant torque and high motor output. thumbup.gif No need to worry about the battery.
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QUOTE(and85rew @ May 13 2025, 11:59 AM)
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nice, enjoy.

ayam oso thought of buying EV in another 3-4 years, but need to redo wiring for my house to accomodate it ..

ur house ady 3 phase?
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 12:00 PM)
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ May 13 2025, 12:00 PM)
nice, enjoy.

ayam oso thought of buying EV in another 3-4 years, but need to redo wiring for my house to accomodate it ..

ur house ady 3 phase?
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Make it more glossy and easier to clean
1 phase enough..7kw charger already ok..as the car battery can take up to 11kw only (charging) if not mistaken

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Regen braking see driver skill. Those getting motion sickness need to gitgud.

Either option technically wont affect driving efficiency since the normal brake padel will also induce energy recovery.

High regen for people skilful enough to do single paddle drive.
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QUOTE(akecema @ May 13 2025, 11:02 AM)
battery 300km saja
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If u floor it consistently 140km/h maybe 300km only lah

QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 11:13 AM)
360km - 380km is a good range.

not sure about others but i particularly like to see the battery charged up during regenerative breaking/downhill drive - looking how the battery fills up is kinda satisfying (eHEV in the HR-V).
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My range is about there as well, normally 80% of the battery is for driving, 10% for Aircond and 10% for others (sensor, dashcam parking mode 3 hrs etc)

QUOTE(and85rew @ May 13 2025, 11:26 AM)
Indeed..rarely achieved that with prev ICE car unless on highway. Somehow, emas7 or EV can achieve this speed with ease.
Just tested that day and surprised at the performance.
The torgue is higher than even Civic..even Hilux having hard time to catch up rclxub.gif

Just go for Premium. That extra 70km range and other features are worthy.

I used the rebate savings on tinting and coating rclxm9.gif
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How much u spent for coating?

QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 11:59 AM)
yep and can adjust lower settings so its even less aggressive

doesn't affect efficiency much because when u start pressing brake pedal it will use regen braking first before using actual brake pads

so just depends what kind of driving behavior

i recommend getting used to the high regen settings, once get the hang of it confirm won't motion sickness, can release pedal partially and look at the power bar to control the deceleration better, don't straight take foot off 100%

not an issue once get used to it
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for driving alone maybe ok, but with passenger i recommend put at medium.

Now driving EV really press lesser brake pedal, mostly i will let it slide and regen with traffic in front.
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 13 2025, 10:45 AM)
Motion sickness

Can kolos tered
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 13 2025, 12:08 PM)
for driving alone maybe ok, but with passenger i recommend put at medium.

Now driving EV really press lesser brake pedal, mostly i will let it slide and regen with traffic in front.
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Ya same if rear no ppl I put high, if got I put medium
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 12:11 PM)
Ya same if rear no ppl I put high, if got I put medium
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have u try sport mode?

I press it and floor it after the toll booth, fuiyoo syiok gila. I can't imagine those driving taycan or xiaomi su7 with high torque.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 13 2025, 12:13 PM)
have u try sport mode?

I press it and floor it after the toll booth, fuiyoo syiok gila. I can't imagine those driving taycan or xiaomi su7 with high torque.
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Ya tried it on stretches only
Also otw up Genting ada try fuih giler

But found even going up Genting with 5ppl in the car comfort more than enough damn effortless

Biasa kasi eco saja

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QUOTE(haturaya @ May 13 2025, 12:39 PM)
The drive feel 'floating' especially on sharp cornering, uneven road, not feeling firm and planted to the road. Nearly all CCP EV feels like that. I've tried eMas7, Atto 3, Sealion 7.

Straight line - nice with high pickup and below 8s for 0-100km/h  notworthy.gif
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Go try volvo ev. No such thing. CCP suspension setup really feel like a boat during maneuver and cornering. Emas 7 not sure but atto3 & sealion I tested it.
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My female kolik brother bought and she says good
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your female kolik brothere bought and she said good?

it's like seeing people drinking water and saying your thirst is quench leh.

QUOTE(haturaya @ May 13 2025, 12:00 PM)
Battery degrades once it leaves the manufacturing floor. It's chemistry. LiFePO4 (LFP) most probably degrades more due to time ageing than charge / discharge cycle. For example LFP rated for 3000 cycle. One cycle - 300km. That's nearly a million kms. No way one can drives that far in 10 years.

I've built my own small LFP battery pack for my outdoor aquarium + small solar panel. It's been charging / discharging on daily basis for past 2 years. The capacity still as good as new. Virtually no degradation.  thumbup.gif

Just buy the EV and enjoy newly found instant torque and high motor output.  thumbup.gif  No need to worry about the battery.
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i'm not THAT worried about the battery in a new car, just a discussion on the battery health on a used car cause although 1 cycle is about 300km but if the previous owner lenjan the car, heat + more charge cycles would run it down.

i assume that any rechargeable batteries work the same that's why iPhone has this "optimized battery charging" thing built into their phones now.

i'm not really bought into the instant torque hype but probably the excitement of so many new features, the apps and stuffs. speed is the least of my concerns.
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300km
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Waiting for hybrid/PHEV model..
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isn't the e.Mas7 already a PHEV?
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 12:15 PM)
Ya tried it on stretches only
Also otw up Genting ada try fuih giler

But found even going up Genting with 5ppl in the car comfort more than enough damn effortless

Biasa kasi eco saja
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 13 2025, 12:27 PM)
Phev means got both engine and battery/motor
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oh, like the BMW X5?
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 13 2025, 11:43 AM)
Its just a simple wire unplug, doesnt effect anything else
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Jangan jadilah Cikgu Chee, Bye Bye.

The sound is for pedestrian and cyclist dengar.. if off u like become arsehole liao
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 12:21 PM)
your female kolik brothere bought and she said good?

it's like seeing people drinking water and saying your thirst is quench leh.
i'm not THAT worried about the battery in a new car, just a discussion on the battery health on a used car cause although 1 cycle is about 300km but if the previous owner lenjan the car, heat + more charge cycles would run it down.

i assume that any rechargeable batteries work the same that's why iPhone has this "optimized battery charging" thing built into their phones now.

i'm not really bought into the instant torque hype but probably the excitement of so many new features, the apps and stuffs. speed is the least of my concerns.
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Yeah she is her sibling ma, together same house test driven and being passenger before.
She seldom give praise to stuffs, when she said it is good, that means it is impressing her.
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 13 2025, 12:30 PM)
Jangan jadilah Cikgu Chee, Bye Bye.

The sound is for pedestrian and cyclist dengar.. if off u like become arsehole liao
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The aircond compressor and fan noise is louder than petrol car, no need for ice cream sound

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 13 2025, 12:30 PM)
Jangan jadilah Cikgu Chee, Bye Bye.

The sound is for pedestrian and cyclist dengar.. if off u like become arsehole liao
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i like the subtle sound the Honda HR-V makes. not very intrusive.

QUOTE(zero5177 @ May 13 2025, 12:32 PM)
Yeah she is her sibling ma, together same house test driven and being passenger before.
She seldom give praise to stuffs, when she said it is good, that means it is impressing her.
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Its just a simple wire unplug, doesnt effect anything else
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Always running at any point when the vehicle is on the move below 30 km/h, the safety feature can’t be turned off, but such has the response been to it that the automaker says it is currently working to give eMas 7 customers options for the pedestrian warning audio, including turning the warning off.
Think will have OTA soon that allow turn off.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ May 13 2025, 12:43 PM)
Think will have OTA soon that allow turn off.
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https://autobuzz.my/2025/03/11/pedestrian-w...ting-next-year/

They are enforcing it next year so unlikely can turn off

maybe can choose different sound
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 13 2025, 12:08 PM)
If u floor it consistently 140km/h maybe 300km only lah
My range is about there as well, normally 80% of the battery is for driving, 10% for Aircond and 10% for others (sensor, dashcam parking mode 3 hrs etc)
How much u spent for coating?
for driving alone maybe ok, but with passenger i recommend put at medium.

Now driving EV really press lesser brake pedal, mostly i will let it slide and regen with traffic in front.
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How many myvi or civic vtec turbo have you beated so far at highway?
Or at traffic light drag race
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How many myvi or civic vtec turbo have you beated so far at highway?
Or at traffic light drag race
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emas7 the 12v is lfp battery, last longer than the 2023 atto3 12v lead acid battery.

but the atto3 ultra is using lfp for the 12v battery as well
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Cheap and follow /k wisdom of 6 months salary

Jokes aside , this is a good SUV , much better than my beat up mazda cx-5

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thought Proton implementing AA/CP in a OTA?
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takes forever, can u image they sell a car that does not save the settings, every time u want to drive, it resets

forget bout AA or CP, even if it comes, dont know when


proton version is a customize version, u can sell thousands in malaysia but not globally
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:48 AM)
motion sickness - care to explain?

huyung-hayang ke?

i put my girlfriend on the back seat and drove through bumps and took some rather sharp corners (albeit not fast), she said comfortable D:
i have solar installed but kena ICPT every month -.-
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most likely is because of the EV punya one pedal drive


if that person kena in 1 EV ; all EV that enable 1 pedal drive he/she will kena also

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How much u spent for coating?

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RM3k (mid range option)

To me it looks extra sleek after that..glossy rclxm9.gif

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Cheap and follow /k wisdom of 6 months salary

Jokes aside , this is a good SUV , much better than my beat up mazda cx-5
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serious? much better than CX-5? KF or KE?

QUOTE(chicaman @ May 13 2025, 01:23 PM)
takes forever, can u image they sell a car that does not save the settings, every time u want to drive, it resets

forget bout AA or CP, even if it comes, dont know when
proton version is a customize version, u can sell thousands in malaysia but not globally
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Anyone an owner of the e.Mas7 here?

went and test drove the Premium variant yesterday and it's quite appealing for its price range - planned to buy one for the experience and to also do some "heavy lifting" (eg: the occasionally IKEA buys etc.) that otherwise couldn't with my liftback.

any negative feedbacks?

so far, there are only 3 things that i instantly dislike; the grey/white headliner, the odd shaped steering wheel and the sound system (bad even).
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Sit the rear seat and get someone else to drive. If you can accept ok . For me too sampan, can feel it oscillating up and down. Do not judge the handling from the driver seat. Get 2 person to sit at the back and feel it.

Handling so so. Leapmotor C10 ,xpeng g6 seems to be better.

Road noise and wind noise is higher than typical EV.

Sound system not as good as the number of speakers show.... Xpeng G6, leapmotor c10, Zeekr all perform better. Probably same standard as Sealion.

But interior looks nice and spacious. Smaller than Leapmotor C10 but quite spacious for the size.


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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 02:04 PM)
serious? much better than CX-5? KF or KE?
yeah, the "not yet" available CP is also another factor that pulls my handbrake.
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Definitely better. I drive KF model also impressed.
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QUOTE(chicaman @ May 13 2025, 01:23 PM)
takes forever, can u image they sell a car that does not save the settings, every time u want to drive, it resets

forget bout AA or CP, even if it comes, dont know when
proton version is a customize version, u can sell thousands in malaysia but not globally
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CP coming July. Not really customized version, also handled by Geely not proton. Geely EX5 in AU/NZ they also promise similar timeline. The OS is pretty much fully handled by Geely/Meizu team.

AA abit later in the year, but already got workaround to use a developmental version now, maybe they “accidentally” put it in the build so ppl don’t need to wait too long and complain more.

As for the drive settings yes. It’s a little annoying, but already gotten used to it.

As for the safety related settings memang always will turn back on next time u start the car even after you turn off, most other new cars including other ccp EVs also liddat, to fulfill the regulations and get better safety rating since those stuff are on by default.

So since have to turn off the annoying safety stuff like speed limit warning every time anyway, also become habit to set the drive settings at the same time.

Nothing much of a dealbreaker but u making it sound like end of the world lmao
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QUOTE(Drian @ May 13 2025, 02:08 PM)
sit the rear seat and get someone else to drive. If you can accept ok . For me too sampan, can feel it oscillating up and down.

Road noise and wind noise is higher than typical EV.

But interior looks nice.
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i almost never gets ferried in a car, it's always me, driving. my short test drive yesterday around Puchong area (bumps, uphill climb, some mixtures of corners and uneven roads) got me very impressed. i wasn't expecting superb handling but for a car its size/statute, it handles pretty well.

i heard complains though that the J7 is quite "bumpy" for rear passengers.

QUOTE(Icehart @ May 13 2025, 02:09 PM)
Definitely better. I drive KF model also impressed.
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what's a bold statement, in what ways that the eMas7 is better than the CX-5 (KF).
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 02:14 PM)
i almost never gets ferried in a car, it's always me, driving. my short test drive yesterday around Puchong area (bumps, uphill climb, some mixtures of corners and uneven roads) got me very impressed. i wasn't expecting superb handling but for a car its size/statute, it handles pretty well.

i heard complains though that the J7 is quite "bumpy" for rear passengers.
what's a bold statement, in what ways that the eMas7 is better than the CX-5 (KF).
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 02:14 PM)
i almost never gets ferried in a car, it's always me, driving. my short test drive yesterday around Puchong area (bumps, uphill climb, some mixtures of corners and uneven roads) got me very impressed. i wasn't expecting superb handling but for a car its size/statute, it handles pretty well.

i heard complains though that the J7 is quite "bumpy" for rear passengers.
what's a bold statement, in what ways that the eMas7 is better than the CX-5 (KF).
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It's not bumpy as in there is a sudden "jolt". It is a slower up down movement, whenever you hit a bump , pothole etc.



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serious? much better than CX-5? KF or KE?
yeah, the "not yet" available CP is also another factor that pulls my handbrake.
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1st gen, Mazda CX-5 KE which is already 11 years old.

Acceleration, the space, the seat, overall quality of the interior are all better than what i observed in Mazda cx-5 ,11 years ago. handling maybe not as good. My kid complains in my mazda and still complain in this e.mas when sitting in the rear seat.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 13 2025, 02:17 PM)
The KF’s Achilles’ heel has always been its rear-seat passenger space, even the Honda City offers more legroom.
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so, the eMas7 is only better than the KF in terms of space/room?

QUOTE(Drian @ May 13 2025, 02:18 PM)
It's not bumpy as in there is a sudden "jolt". It is a slower up down movement, whenever you hit a bump , pothole etc.
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basically stiff suspension set up?

QUOTE(backspace66 @ May 13 2025, 02:19 PM)
1st gen, Mazda CX-5 KE which is already 11 years old.

Acceleration, the space, the seat, overall quality of the interior are all better than what i observed in Mazda cx-5 ,11 years ago. handling maybe not as good. My kid complains in my mazda and still complain in this e.mas when sitting in the rear seat.
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oh! if like that then confirm the eMas7 is better than your CX-5. what about the KF, have you tried the KF and then compared it with the eMas7?

it's quite surprisingly to hear if the newer generation Mazdas is out-beaten by Geely (value proposition aside).
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QUOTE(Drian @ May 13 2025, 02:08 PM)
Sit the rear seat and get someone else to drive. If you can accept ok . For me too sampan, can feel it oscillating up and down. Do not judge the handling from the driver seat. Get 2 person to sit at the back and feel it.

Handling so so. Leapmotor C10 ,xpeng g6 seems to be better.

Road noise and wind noise is higher than typical EV. 

Sound system not as good as the number of speakers show.... Xpeng G6, leapmotor c10, Zeekr all perform better.  Probably same standard as Sealion.

But interior looks nice and spacious. Smaller than Leapmotor C10 but quite spacious for the size.
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That 2 car model is at price range of RM150-180k liao, if mau compare apple to apple, emas 7 vs atto 3 vs omoda e5


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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 13 2025, 01:06 PM)
emas7 the 12v is lfp battery, last longer than the 2023 atto3 12v lead acid battery.

but the atto3 ultra is using lfp for the 12v  battery as well
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QUOTE(and85rew @ May 13 2025, 01:48 PM)
RM3k (mid range option)

To me it looks extra sleek after that..glossy rclxm9.gif
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Tint film cost me RM2.2k, dashcam RM1.7k

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nothing serious.
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I've built my own small LFP battery pack for my outdoor aquarium + small solar panel. It's been charging / discharging on daily basis for past 2 years. The capacity still as good as new. Virtually no degradation.  thumbup.gif

Just buy the EV and enjoy newly found instant torque and high motor output.  thumbup.gif  No need to worry about the battery.
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Sorry for the OT.
Bro, can share your aquarium LFP battery & solar specs.
What control are you using for the daily charging?

If OK, I'll get this instead of asking relatives to check on the fishes when I'm away.
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That 2 car model is at price range of RM150-180k liao, if mau compare apple to apple, emas 7 vs atto 3 vs omoda e5
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It's all suspension tuning , nothing to do with price. X50/x70 all same price range but they do not have that issue.






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Sit the rear seat and get someone else to drive. If you can accept ok . For me too sampan, can feel it oscillating up and down. Do not judge the handling from the driver seat. Get 2 person to sit at the back and feel it.

Handling so so. Leapmotor C10 ,xpeng g6 seems to be better.

Road noise and wind noise is higher than typical EV. 

Sound system not as good as the number of speakers show.... Xpeng G6, leapmotor c10, Zeekr all perform better.  Probably same standard as Sealion.

But interior looks nice and spacious. Smaller than Leapmotor C10 but quite spacious for the size.
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i just went to see Leapmotor C10 and i personally think eMas7 looks a bit better overall but material quality wise, Leapmotor C10 is better. It has more plush / thick paddings and smoother leather panels but very plain design, actually boring. the upside is that it's huge in comparison.

the retail price is RM157k but straight up got RM22k rebate - apparently SA said, Leapmotor C10 "tuned" by Masalati, entah betul or not.
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emas 7 is so ugly.
u cant bear to own such an ugly car.

recently just finished a proton trip.
even the premium boast 400+km range, in real world driving, with jam & some rouge roads, 200+km u'll wanna find charger already.
& the most annoying thing about all these modern "premium" cars are the sensors.
the constant beeping when exceed certain speed, when other vehicle or object of near your car, so freaking annoying.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 03:08 PM)
emas 7 is so ugly.
u cant bear to own such an ugly car.

recently just finished a proton trip.
even the premium boast 400+km range, in real world driving, with jam & some rouge roads, 200+km u'll wanna find charger already.
& the most annoying thing about all these modern "premium" cars are the sensors.
the constant beeping when exceed certain speed, when other vehicle or object of near your car, so freaking annoying.
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thought EVs are exceptionally "fuel" efficient in traffic jams? what gives that you only managed to get half of the estimated range?

i think "beepings" can't be help, the only difference that can be made is the chime and volume manufacturers choose.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 03:08 PM)
emas 7 is so ugly.
u cant bear to own such an ugly car.

recently just finished a proton trip.
even the premium boast 400+km range, in real world driving, with jam & some rouge roads, 200+km u'll wanna find charger already.
& the most annoying thing about all these modern "premium" cars are the sensors.
the constant beeping when exceed certain speed, when other vehicle or object of near your car, so freaking annoying.
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Bullshit, i consistently can get 6km per kwh, that is 360 km for full battery, but i never allow the battery to drop below 20% so far, i only use 80% which is around 290 km.

This is mix highway and KL traffic in the morning and evening. i can get a energy better consumption but decided to speed up whenever i have the chance
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 03:08 PM)
emas 7 is so ugly.
u cant bear to own such an ugly car.

recently just finished a proton trip.
even the premium boast 400+km range, in real world driving, with jam & some rouge roads, 200+km u'll wanna find charger already.
& the most annoying thing about all these modern "premium" cars are the sensors.
the constant beeping when exceed certain speed, when other vehicle or object of near your car, so freaking annoying.
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You are quite obviously spewing some bullshit there. I get between 360 to 390km for a full charge. If always stuck in jam will get even better range not worse. You must've been driving in an uphill jam for 200km to reach the top of Kilimanjaro.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 03:10 PM)
thought EVs are exceptionally "fuel" efficient in traffic jams? what gives that you only managed to get half of the estimated range?

i think "beepings" can't be help, the only difference that can be made is the chime and volume manufacturers choose.
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EV is most efficient in slow moving but constant moving traffic. if heavy jam will spend more electricity on AC
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 03:04 PM)
i just went to see Leapmotor C10 and i personally think eMas7 looks a bit better overall but material quality wise, Leapmotor C10 is better. It has more plush / thick paddings and smoother leather panels but very plain design, actually boring. the upside is that it's huge in comparison.

the retail price is RM157k but straight up got RM22k rebate - apparently SA said, Leapmotor C10 "tuned" by Masalati, entah betul or not.
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True la.This kind of thing cannot hide one la.


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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 03:08 PM)
emas 7 is so ugly.
u cant bear to own such an ugly car.

recently just finished a proton trip.
even the premium boast 400+km range, in real world driving, with jam & some rouge roads, 200+km u'll wanna find charger already.
& the most annoying thing about all these modern "premium" cars are the sensors.
the constant beeping when exceed certain speed, when other vehicle or object of near your car, so freaking annoying.
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Your "real world driving" is constantly 140-160km/h on highway? whistling.gif

How come so many emas 7 owner here able to achieve 350-400km range while u unable to do so.
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 04:24 PM)
EV is most efficient in slow moving but constant moving traffic. if heavy jam will spend more electricity  on AC
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0-2kw if idle with aircond n other electricity

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0-2kw if idle with aircond n other electricity

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what car is this, the centre screen so ugly wan?
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what car is this, the centre screen so ugly wan?
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XC40 .

u mau ploton emas or xc40 ?
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ May 13 2025, 03:23 PM)
You are quite obviously spewing some bullshit there. I get between 360 to 390km for a full charge. If always stuck in jam will get even better range not worse. You must've been driving in an uphill jam for 200km to reach the top of Kilimanjaro.
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maybe i should disclose more.
to be fair, the emas 7 premium is not exactly new out of the factory.
previously it has done a tour to dunno china or vietnam or something.
i dunno how "used" it was, i don't hav the details.

bck to the tour my tour, it was to burma, bck via vietnam, laos, cambodia, a bit rush to be honest, so we hav to speed up a bit when we're on good stretch of road.
not just EV, with some other ice cars as well.
& the rough road i mentioned, not just your typical KL city pot holes.
u need to understand in these countries, their kampung roads are bad, can be literally dirt road.
that's y we're a bit behind schedule cuz underestimate condition of roads.
stopping for charging not exactly helping either.
& ofcoz in a tour, there r other things that will cause delay as well, such as crossing checkpoints, other cars having issue, ie tyre, accidents.

as u can imagine, heavy EV car on rough terrain, not exactly the combo for efficient or comfort.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 04:40 PM)
what car is this, the centre screen so ugly wan?
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Way better than emas7 I guess?
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 10:38 AM)
Anyone an owner of the e.Mas7 here?

went and test drove the Premium variant yesterday and it's quite appealing for its price range - planned to buy one for the experience and to also do some "heavy lifting" (eg: the occasionally IKEA buys etc.) that otherwise couldn't with my liftback.

any negative feedbacks?

so far, there are only 3 things that i instantly dislike; the grey/white headliner, the odd shaped steering wheel and the sound system (bad even).
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Please dont buy this kereta pakai buang..

Next year, u will open up new thread. Why this car no value..
Hard to sell back.. Rv not enough to cover loan etc..

Please dont...
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 13 2025, 03:58 PM)
Please dont buy this kereta pakai buang..

Next year, u will open up new thread. Why this car no value..
Hard to sell back.. Rv not enough to cover loan etc..

Please dont...
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he already say ready to pay cash, this gonna be his secondary beater car, buy for the experience and use to carry stuff around
i think the RV next year would be the least of his concerns
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 13 2025, 03:58 PM)
Please dont buy this kereta pakai buang..

Next year, u will open up new thread. Why this car no value..
Hard to sell back.. Rv not enough to cover loan etc..

Please dont...
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QUOTE(skloda @ May 13 2025, 03:43 PM)
XC40 .

u mau ploton emas or xc40 ?
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QUOTE(nabielz @ May 13 2025, 03:54 PM)
Way better than emas7 I guess?
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 13 2025, 03:58 PM)
Please dont buy this kereta pakai buang..

Next year, u will open up new thread. Why this car no value..
Hard to sell back.. Rv not enough to cover loan etc..

Please dont...
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 04:13 PM)
he already say ready to pay cash, this gonna be his secondary beater car, buy for the experience and use to carry stuff around
i think the RV next year would be the least of his concerns
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yeah, i seldom considered RV when buying a car cause vehicles are never an investment (all cars lose money eventually) - you lose money either way so might as well buy something that i can use (abuse) and make full use of it then at least at the end of the day when the car is sold cheaply, you know the money spent is not wasted.

just needed a low entry cost to hop onto the RV band wagon and at the same time, do things my liftback cannot do.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 05:17 PM)
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Xc40 is old design
Look for ex30 ex90 infotainment.
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 11:00 AM)
Buy lah GET
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just an update, gotten verbal confirmation from TNB. GET will not help if the usage exceeds 1500kwh - so i guess i'll keep continue to get hit by ICPT then.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 04:22 PM)
yeah, i seldom considered RV when buying a car cause vehicles are never an investment (all cars lose money eventually) - you lose money either way so might as well buy something that i can use (abuse) and make full use of it then at least at the end of the day when the car is sold cheaply, you know the money spent is not wasted.

just needed a low entry cost to hop onto the RV band wagon and at the same time, do things my liftback cannot do.
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How to full use of it; if it just 2nd car. Ironically..
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 03:45 PM)
maybe i should disclose more.
to be fair, the emas 7 premium is not exactly new out of the factory.
previously it has done a tour to dunno china or vietnam or something.
i dunno how "used" it was, i don't hav the details.

bck to the tour my tour, it was to burma, bck via vietnam, laos, cambodia, a bit rush to be honest, so we hav to speed up a bit when we're on good stretch of road.
not just EV, with some other ice cars as well.
& the rough road i mentioned, not just your typical KL city pot holes.
u need to understand in these countries, their kampung roads are bad, can be literally dirt road.
that's y we're a bit behind schedule cuz underestimate condition of roads.
stopping for charging not exactly helping either.
& ofcoz in a tour, there r other things that will cause delay as well, such as crossing checkpoints, other cars having issue, ie tyre, accidents.

as u can imagine, heavy EV car on rough terrain, not exactly the combo for efficient or comfort.
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Thanks for explaining. But your super rare special case scenario outside of Malaysia does not reflect the reality for owners in Malaysia and your generalization based on your unique experience is really not helpful for potential buyers to understand what they will be getting.
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How to full use of it; if it just 2nd car. Ironically..
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some people buy nice expensive cars and refuses to go to crowded places with small parking lots - fearing door dings, scratches etc. some just don't want to use these cars to carry big heavy stuffs fearing that it may scratch or damage all those nice interior fittings (leather etc.).

making full use of it basically mean abusing the crap out of it, thread places which the main car otherwise wouldn't go or load things into it which the main car otherwise wouldn't fit, all without the fear of constantly wanting to protect the car and making it look like it just got out of the showroom.

park it under rain/sun and sent it over to car washes without the need to consider whether it will be washed with the proper 2 bucket system.

a car-free "beat-up" car.


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Thanks for explaining. But your super rare special case scenario outside of Malaysia does not reflect the reality for owners in Malaysia and your generalization based on your unique experience is really not helpful for potential buyers to understand what they will be getting.
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the looks alone is a deal breaker for me. it's just so fucking ugly from every angle.
the only pros when i'm driving it is i dont hav to stare at it.

also handling is shit.
honestly, it remanence those early early years when china trying to make cars, where the exterior they copy continental car, but handling is just appalling.
it's really no fun to drive.

for me, any car that has bad handling, it's not safe, regardless of the ncap crash test.
bad handling means u're much more likely to be in an accident situation.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 04:25 PM)
just an update, gotten verbal confirmation from TNB. GET will not help if the usage exceeds 1500kwh - so i guess i'll keep continue to get hit by ICPT then.
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i dunno what question u asked them and what the answer is
GET are for those usage exceed 1500kwh and want to save on ICPT

say your usage is 1650kwh, and get ICPT penalty RM165
now u buy GET 200kwh for RM20, the net usage after deduction GET is 1450kwh, which avoided ICPT
saving RM145/month

unless they change the rule lately
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 04:57 PM)
some people buy nice expensive cars and refuses to go to crowded places with small parking lots - fearing door dings, scratches etc. some just don't want to use these cars to carry big heavy stuffs fearing that it may scratch or damage all those nice interior fittings (leather etc.).

making full use of it basically mean abusing the crap out of it, thread places which the main car otherwise wouldn't go or load things into it which the main car otherwise wouldn't fit, all without the fear of constantly wanting to protect the car and making it look like it just got out of the showroom.

park it under rain/sun and sent it over to car washes without the need to consider whether it will be washed with the proper 2 bucket system.

a car-free "beat-up" car.
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Yes, I understand yr concern.

But Proton eMas 7 is not a refined car that u want to abuse, it just a rebadge (not have clear proton character that we used to)...
Even not practical like Japanese car; tyre is too big 18/19" which very expensive, hidden door handle (which cannot tahan for abuse), no tonneau cover like any SUV, last time I dont see any android or apple car play, cup holder or hole not in practical position, drive range in too low, certain speed NVH not very good; There are many thing that u will regret one day..
As kaki kereta, I not recommend it..

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the looks alone is a deal breaker for me. it's just so fucking ugly from every angle.
the only pros when i'm driving it is i dont hav to stare at it.

also handling is shit.
honestly, it remanence those early early years when china trying to make cars, where the exterior they copy continental car, but handling is just appalling.
it's really no fun to drive.

for me, any car that has bad handling, it's not safe, regardless of the ncap crash test.
bad handling means u're much more likely to be in an accident situation.
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u have very high taste on car looks, any particular car/model is pleasant looking to your standard?
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 05:06 PM)
i dunno what question u asked them and what the answer is
GET are for those usage exceed 1500kwh and want to save on ICPT

say your usage is 1650kwh, and get ICPT penalty RM165
now u buy GET 200kwh for RM20, the net usage after deduction GET is 1450kwh, which avoided ICPT
saving RM145/month

unless they change the rule lately
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i asked the right question and their answer is this;

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The green tariff will not reduce jumlah penggunaan anda. If jumlah penggunaan lebih 1500kwh, you will get the surcharge Rm 0.10 per kwh


seems like it's not a straight forward deduction because if it is then everyone will just subscribe to it and then avoided the ICPT. why pay RM300.00+ when you can only pay RM20.00?


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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 13 2025, 05:08 PM)
Yes, I understand yr concern.

But Proton eMas 7 is not a refined car that u want to abuse, it just a rebadge (not have clear proton character that we used to)...
Even not practical like Japanese car; tyre is too big 18/19" which very expensive, hidden door handle (which cannot tahan for abuse), no tonneau cover like any SUV, last time I dont see any android or apple car play, cup holder or hole not in practical position, drive range in too low, certain speed NVH not very good; There are many thing that u will regret one day..
As kaki kereta, I not recommend it..
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compared with tesla model 3 or BYD Seal? although not in same segment.
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Update; can actually get the answer from ChatGPT

A few key facts about GET:
You subscribe to a block of 100 kWh (or more), and pay a premium of RM0.037/kWh on top of your normal tariff.

It doesn’t eliminate ICPT—you still pay ICPT on imported electricity.

But it greenwashes your electricity—i.e., you get a “certificate” saying your power consumption comes from renewables (hydro/solar).

It's voluntary and more about environmental branding than actual savings.

So... will GET eliminate your ICPT charges?
❌ Nope. It won’t.
GET is more like a badge of climate honour than a financial loophole. It's a premium add-on, not a cost-reduction strategy.
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Update; can actually get the answer from ChatGPT

A few key facts about GET:
You subscribe to a block of 100 kWh (or more), and pay a premium of RM0.037/kWh on top of your normal tariff.

It doesn’t eliminate ICPT—you still pay ICPT on imported electricity.

But it greenwashes your electricity—i.e., you get a “certificate” saying your power consumption comes from renewables (hydro/solar).

It's voluntary and more about environmental branding than actual savings.

So... will GET eliminate your ICPT charges?
❌ Nope. It won’t.
GET is more like a badge of climate honour than a financial loophole. It's a premium add-on, not a cost-reduction strategy.
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With regards to the recent announcement by the Ministry of Energy Transition and Water Transformation (PETRA) on 26 December 2024 on the continuation of Green Electricity Tariff (GET) programme in 2025, here are the key highlights:

• Up to 6,600 GWh GET quota are made available for subscription with a premium rate:

a) from 8 sen/kWh with a 3-year subscription period for all domestic consumers and low voltage non-domestic consumers; and

b) from 18 sen/kWh with a 3-year subscription period for medium voltage & high voltage non-domestic consumers.

• No Imbalance Cost Pass-Through (ICPT) charge for the Green Electricity subscribed.

• Customers have the option to backdate their subscription to start from 1 January 2025.

• The lock-in period for GET subscription ends on 31 December each year and will automatically renew based on subscribers’ previous GET subscription period unless a termination request is received.

• Existing GET consumers in 2024 will have their subscription period automatically set to one year, commencing on 1 January 2025. They may request a one-time change to their subscription period in 2025 without incurring a termination fee.

Click here to subscribe GET from 11.00am, 1 March 2025 on myTNB portal.

Who in TNB u asked anyway? And are u talking about commercial or residential tariff?

This post has been edited by yeapsc73: May 13 2025, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 03:45 PM)
maybe i should disclose more.
to be fair, the emas 7 premium is not exactly new out of the factory.
previously it has done a tour to dunno china or vietnam or something.
i dunno how "used" it was, i don't hav the details.

bck to the tour my tour, it was to burma, bck via vietnam, laos, cambodia, a bit rush to be honest, so we hav to speed up a bit when we're on good stretch of road.
not just EV, with some other ice cars as well.
& the rough road i mentioned, not just your typical KL city pot holes.
u need to understand in these countries, their kampung roads are bad, can be literally dirt road.
that's y we're a bit behind schedule cuz underestimate condition of roads.
stopping for charging not exactly helping either.
& ofcoz in a tour, there r other things that will cause delay as well, such as crossing checkpoints, other cars having issue, ie tyre, accidents.

as u can imagine, heavy EV car on rough terrain, not exactly the combo for efficient or comfort.
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EV off-road, cross country. Unless you are paid to promotion thingy why would jew do that?
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Yes, I understand yr concern.

But Proton eMas 7 is not a refined car that u want to abuse, it just a rebadge (not have clear proton character that we used to)...
Even not practical like Japanese car; tyre is too big 18/19" which very expensive, hidden door handle (which cannot tahan for abuse), no tonneau cover like any SUV, last time I dont see any android or apple car play, cup holder or hole not in practical position, drive range in too low, certain speed NVH not very good; There are many thing that u will regret one day..
As kaki kereta, I not recommend it..
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if it's refined then i won't abuse it - i considered it as "just a Proton", makes it more "palettable", if you will.

like i mentioned earlier, i am considering it because;
1) i want to try the EV experience;
2) i want a cheap/low entry cost;
3) it's fairly practical, spacious and plenty of space to carry stuffs;

what Japanese make that is currently offering such a package, if got then i insta-buy.

as for the tires, i don't think you can avoid that given most EVs are heavy. you can't just slap a 15" and call it a day. i'm reasonable. people are saying the eMas7 is giving about 360KM per charge, that's quite good for RM120k, don't you think?

like i said, this is not my main car - i have other cars at home but they are not suited to be "abused".

QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 05:10 PM)
u have very high taste on car looks, any particular car/model is pleasant looking to your standard?
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at the moment, i like the Giulia.
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With regards to the recent announcement by the Ministry of Energy Transition and Water Transformation (PETRA) on 26 December 2024 on the continuation of Green Electricity Tariff (GET) programme in 2025, here are the key highlights:

• Up to 6,600 GWh GET quota are made available for subscription with a premium rate:

a) from 8 sen/kWh with a 3-year subscription period for all domestic consumers and low voltage non-domestic consumers; and

b) from 18 sen/kWh with a 3-year subscription period for medium voltage & high voltage non-domestic consumers.

• No Imbalance Cost Pass-Through (ICPT) charge for the Green Electricity subscribed.

• Customers have the option to backdate their subscription to start from 1 January 2025.

• The lock-in period for GET subscription ends on 31 December each year and will automatically renew based on subscribers’ previous GET subscription period unless a termination request is received.

• Existing GET consumers in 2024 will have their subscription period automatically set to one year, commencing on 1 January 2025. They may request a one-time change to their subscription period in 2025 without incurring a termination fee.

Click here to subscribe GET from 11.00am, 1 March 2025 on myTNB portal.

Who in TNB u asked anyway? And are u talking about commercial or residential tariff?
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Residential.

Anyway, are you subscribed to GET?

🌿 So what’s GET actually doing?
The Green Electricity Tariff (GET) allows you to “subscribe” to 100% renewable energy, on paper. You’re telling TNB:

“Hey, I want my electricity to be green—hydro, solar, wind (if we ever get any). I’ll pay more for that privilege.”

You’re buying Renewable Energy Certificates (RECs) for the electricity you consume.

But here's the catch:
GET adds RM0.037 per kWh to your tariff, on top of existing charges.

You still import electricity from the grid, and that electricity still goes through the same generators, wires, and distribution network.

You still get ICPT charges based on grid fuel costs—even if you’ve subscribed to GET.

It’s a bit like paying extra for “organic” salad dressing while the lettuce still comes from the same farm.

😒 Why doesn’t GET cancel out ICPT then?
Because:

ICPT is a system-wide cost adjustment, not individualized per household.

The power you're drawing may be “green certified,” but it’s still transmitted over the same grid, affected by the same fuel mix and cost pressures.

GET is a policy/branding mechanism, not a bypass for grid economics.

This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: May 13 2025, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 05:10 PM)
u have very high taste on car looks, any particular car/model is pleasant looking to your standard?
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not a problem with normal looking, dont be too ugly can already.
like those myvi, saga, persona, not good looking, but they are baseline acceptable.

most honda, toyota, they r ok standard looking.
mazda mostly on the better looking side.

bezza, nissan almera, the older vios (aka dugong), & emas, these are the deal breaker looks for me.

i would say for current market for malaysia, if u wan EV, best balance is still BYD.
but BYD model naming is just so dumb.
saying u drive around in a "dolphin", "sealion" just sounds so dumb.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 05:05 PM)
the looks alone is a deal breaker for me. it's just so fucking ugly from every angle.
the only pros when i'm driving it is i dont hav to stare at it.

also handling is shit.
honestly, it remanence those early early years when china trying to make cars, where the exterior they copy continental car, but handling is just appalling.
it's really no fun to drive.

for me, any car that has bad handling, it's not safe, regardless of the ncap crash test.
bad handling means u're much more likely to be in an accident situation.
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Any example of SUV <200k with good handling?
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 05:27 PM)
not a problem with normal looking, dont be too ugly can already.
like those myvi, saga, persona, not good looking, but they are baseline acceptable.

most honda, toyota, they r ok standard looking.
mazda mostly on the better looking side.

bezza, nissan almera, the older vios (aka dugong), & emas, these are the deal breaker looks for me.

i would say for current market for malaysia, if u wan EV, best balance is still BYD.
but BYD model naming is just so dumb.
saying u drive around in a "dolphin", "sealion" just sounds so dumb.
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so do you think the atto3 looks better than the emas?
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QUOTE(kaizoku30 @ May 13 2025, 05:23 PM)
EV off-road, cross country. Unless you are paid to promotion thingy why would jew do that?
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it is.
it's basically to proof a point that emas is as capable of other ice car in a tour.
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 05:31 PM)
so do you think the atto3 looks better than the emas?
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yes, emas 7 somehow looks worst in real life than in broucher.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 05:27 PM)
not a problem with normal looking, dont be too ugly can already.
like those myvi, saga, persona, not good looking, but they are baseline acceptable.

most honda, toyota, they r ok standard looking.
mazda mostly on the better looking side.

bezza, nissan almera, the older vios (aka dugong), & emas, these are the deal breaker looks for me.

i would say for current market for malaysia, if u wan EV, best balance is still BYD.
but BYD model naming is just so dumb.
saying u drive around in a "dolphin", "sealion" just sounds so dumb.
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i went to BYD's showroom after Proton and look at the Sealion7, it's gorgeous BUT it is also because of this it makes me difficult to make it into a beat-up car. Plus, it's close to RM30k more expensive which defeats the purposes.

i just want a cheap/low entry cost into the EV and if anything is wrong with it, i can go "oh shi-, it's cheap anyway" rather than "SHI- I PAID SO MUCH MONEY FOR IT AND I GOT THIS".

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 05:36 PM)
yes, emas 7 somehow looks worst in real life than in broucher.
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the Atto3 all old tech right?

plus the interior, really cannot la.
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i went to BYD's showroom after Proton and look at the Sealion7, it's gorgeous BUT it is also because of this it makes me difficult to make it into a beat-up car. Plus, it's close to RM30k more expensive which defeats the purposes.

i just want a cheap/low entry cost into the EV and if anything is wrong with it, i can go "oh shi-, it's cheap anyway" rather than "SHI- I PAID SO MUCH MONEY FOR IT AND I GOT THIS".
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Perodua EMO says hi!
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 06:37 PM)
i went to BYD's showroom after Proton and look at the Sealion7, it's gorgeous BUT it is also because of this it makes me difficult to make it into a beat-up car. Plus, it's close to RM30k more expensive which defeats the purposes.

i just want a cheap/low entry cost into the EV and if anything is wrong with it, i can go "oh shi-, it's cheap anyway" rather than "SHI- I PAID SO MUCH MONEY FOR IT AND I GOT THIS".
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Sealion 7 cheapest is rm185k right? Thats like rm60k more than the top spec emas7 bruh
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 13 2025, 05:41 PM)
Sealion 7 cheapest is rm185k right? Thats like rm60k more than the top spec emas7 bruh
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I think got 20k rebate now or something, maybe closer to 160k
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Residential.

Anyway, are you subscribed to GET?

🌿 So what’s GET actually doing?
The Green Electricity Tariff (GET) allows you to “subscribe” to 100% renewable energy, on paper. You’re telling TNB:

“Hey, I want my electricity to be green—hydro, solar, wind (if we ever get any). I’ll pay more for that privilege.”

You’re buying Renewable Energy Certificates (RECs) for the electricity you consume.

But here's the catch:
GET adds RM0.037 per kWh to your tariff, on top of existing charges.

You still import electricity from the grid, and that electricity still goes through the same generators, wires, and distribution network.

You still get ICPT charges based on grid fuel costs—even if you’ve subscribed to GET.

It’s a bit like paying extra for “organic” salad dressing while the lettuce still comes from the same farm.

😒 Why doesn’t GET cancel out ICPT then?
Because:

ICPT is a system-wide cost adjustment, not individualized per household.

The power you're drawing may be “green certified,” but it’s still transmitted over the same grid, affected by the same fuel mix and cost pressures.

GET is a policy/branding mechanism, not a bypass for grid economics.
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GET for residential not the same as for commercial, for commercial is just green points, for resi then can avoid ICPT

GET is extra 8-10sen/kwh, dunno what chatgpt talking about

i dont have GET, but i read from those in MYEVOC that those subscribe to it can avoid ICPT
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Perodua EMO says hi!
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that car.

the prototype design looks quite nice. the front end got some influences from the current Toyota/Lexus design language but the back has that old CH-R design cue. the shape is also quite "bubbly" but i don't think it's going to be spacious. It's a B segment anyway.

plus, i thought i heard it's going to be an all "in-house" development right? i still don't have confidence in Malaysian made techs especially when it's something that i'm looking to own for at least 5 years.

besides, there's some crazy thing going on with Perodua saying that the battery packs are going on a "lease" term right?

QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 13 2025, 05:41 PM)
Sealion 7 cheapest is rm185k right? Thats like rm60k more than the top spec emas7 bruh
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oh, i must have mistaken then. got confused with Leapmotor's C10.

sorry, they all look too similar - hard to differentiate one with the other. at RM185k, i have no reason to buy a China make.

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 05:43 PM)
GET for residential not the same as for commercial, for commercial is just green points, for resi then can avoid ICPT

GET is extra 8-10sen/kwh, dunno what chatgpt talking about

i dont have GET, but i read from those in MYEVOC that those subscribe to it can avoid ICPT
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then i think i rather trust ChatGPT on this. besides, what ChatGPT replied corroborates with what i was informed by the TNB people earlier today.
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I think got 20k rebate now or something, maybe closer to 160k
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MG offered RM30k rebate, on their pre-registered vehicle. Not driven, just pre-registered.

That car looks awfully good on the exterior for its price but the inside, cannot.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 05:47 PM)
that car.

the prototype design looks quite nice. the front end got some influences from the current Toyota/Lexus design language but the back has that old CH-R design cue. the shape is also quite "bubbly" but i don't think it's going to be spacious. It's a B segment anyway.

plus, i thought i heard it's going to be an all "in-house" development right? i still don't have confidence in Malaysian made techs especially when it's something that i'm looking to own for at least 5 years.

besides, there's some crazy thing going on with Perodua saying that the battery packs are going on a "lease" term right?
oh, i must have mistaken then. got confused with Leapmotor's C10.

sorry, they all look too similar - hard to differentiate one with the other. at RM185k, i have no reason to buy a China make.
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No idea but I thought it does look like the Nexis abit. I think it looks good. Maybe might be my first foray into EV. Rental of batteries is ok for me.

At least I hope it’s prices will not drop as fast as the Chinese brands…

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 05:38 PM)
the Atto3 all old tech right?

plus the interior, really cannot la.
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still not really that old. i got my cheap pre-reg unit last month.. when u drive time u wont see/focus those guitar string.

emas slightly newer tech.. interior way spacious. but since boykot geely and exterior proportional looks quite tak boleh.
worry part is proton is always proton, even with geely support its software/stuff is still proton support, look at x70/x50 supplies issues.
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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 05:43 PM)
GET for residential not the same as for commercial, for commercial is just green points, for resi then can avoid ICPT

GET is extra 8-10sen/kwh, dunno what chatgpt talking about

i dont have GET, but i read from those in MYEVOC that those subscribe to it can avoid ICPT
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I will find out myself soon, first time i am going to exceed 1500 kwh based on current trend after starting to charge at home, i only subscribed one block, hopefully it is enough
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 05:36 PM)
yes, emas 7 somehow looks worst in real life than in broucher.
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then i think i rather trust ChatGPT on this. besides, what ChatGPT replied corroborates with what i was informed by the TNB people earlier today.
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GET adds RM0.037 per kWh to your tariff, on top of existing charges.

this is wrong though
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QUOTE(mick84 @ May 13 2025, 05:12 PM)
mileage 420km cukup ke? If weekday driving around Selangor, to Rawang, to Bangi, sometime to probably once a moth to Penang / Johor.
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420km

More like 210km if you wanna keep the battery 30 to 80% so it can last longer so I've heard
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if live in landed, can install your own charger, & hav separate cars, EV is pretty good use case.
EV for work commute + weekends dating shopping,
ICE for balik kampung, road trips.

if u're 1 of those 1 car for all purposes, either continue to stick to ICE at the meantime, or go for those hybrid EV, where it runs on EV motor, but hav range extender.
basically also can pump petrol to power the generator for the electric motor.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ May 13 2025, 06:07 PM)
No idea but I thought it does look like the Nexis abit.  I think it looks good.  Maybe might be my first foray into EV.  Rental of batteries is ok for me.

At least I hope it’s prices will not drop as fast as the Chinese brands…
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strange that P2 did not request from Toyota to share with them one of their EV platforms. it would instantly be a winner.

my issue with P2's EV is that it is an all "in-house" made vehicle and they have never made an EV car before. i had a very bad experience with Proton's CAMPRO when it was first released in the Gen.2.

torque dip was crazy and although they eventually updated it with the IAFM and later the CPS, it was still a bad engine.

QUOTE(aLittleMisfit @ May 13 2025, 06:17 PM)
still not really that old. i got my cheap pre-reg unit last month.. when u drive time u wont see/focus those guitar string.

emas slightly newer tech.. interior way spacious. but since boykot geely and exterior proportional looks quite tak boleh.
worry part is proton is always proton, even with geely support its software/stuff is still proton support, look at x70/x50 supplies issues.
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to me, buying an EV is like buying a smart phone, you'd always want to try to get the latest otherwise what you have today may be outdated by tomorrow, especially on its battery pack. isn't the Atto3 using older generation battery technologies?

user posted image

by the way, it's not just the guitar strings at the bottom but the entire dash. the steering wheel, the "wavy" dashboard, the odd looking air conditioning vents and the gear lever. everything just ticks me off.

x50/x70 still suffering from parts supplier problems? thought that has been solved already?

QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ May 13 2025, 06:21 PM)
GET adds RM0.037 per kWh to your tariff, on top of existing charges.

this is wrong though
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is it?

do explain. want to learn.

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 13 2025, 06:26 PM)
420km

More like 210km if you wanna keep the battery 30 to 80% so it can last longer so I've heard
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& if u're those sayang battery type, use fast DC charging all the time also eats into your battery life.

city driving, work commute, ok la.
if go outstation, definitely hav range anxiety.
also, dont fully believe those advertised fast charging speed.
it nvr exactly reach that speed in real life.
also, there's the anxiety that when u reach charging station, either either the station is out of service, or there's a line.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 06:32 PM)
if live in landed, can install your own charger, & hav separate cars, EV is pretty good use case.
EV for work commute + weekends dating shopping,
ICE for balik kampung, road trips.

if u're 1 of those 1 car for all purposes, either continue to stick to ICE at the meantime, or go for those hybrid EV, where it runs on EV motor, but hav range extender.
basically also can pump petrol to power the generator for the electric motor.
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yeah, my parents have the eHEV HRV and the concept just somehow works for me, i like the comfort of knowing that there's an ICE generator charging the battery but at the same time when it goes into full EV mode, it's quite comforting but i just wish that the EV mode can be a lot longer.

that thinking prompted me to want to try a pure EV.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 06:41 PM)
& if u're those sayang battery type, use fast DC charging all the time also eats into your battery life.

city driving, work commute, ok la.
if go outstation, definitely hav range anxiety.
also, dont fully believe those advertised fast charging speed.
it nvr exactly reach that speed in real life.
also, there's the anxiety that when u reach charging station, either either the station is out of service, or there's a line.
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If not for the range anxiety, ev is really nice

Instant torque, no power loss from gear change

Don't wanna be in a situation, if forgot to charge, then gelabah thinking what to do next
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 06:40 PM)
strange that P2 did not request from Toyota to share with them one of their EV platforms. it would instantly be a winner.

my issue with P2's EV is that it is an all "in-house" made vehicle and they have never made an EV car before. i had a very bad experience with Proton's CAMPRO when it was first released in the Gen.2.

torque dip was crazy and although they eventually updated it with the IAFM and later the CPS, it was still a bad engine.
to me, buying an EV is like buying a smart phone, you'd always want to try to get the latest otherwise what you have today may be outdated by tomorrow, especially on its battery pack. isn't the Atto3 using older generation battery technologies?

user posted image

by the way, it's not just the guitar strings at the bottom but the entire dash. the steering wheel, the "wavy" dashboard, the odd looking air conditioning vents and the gear lever. everything just ticks me off.

x50/x70 still suffering from parts supplier problems? thought that has been solved already?
is it?

do explain. want to learn.
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Agree with the risk you mentioned. But this is the EV cars I am looking at. I still have doubts about Chinese cars, with their drastic price reduction, not to mention the parts and reliability.
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 13 2025, 06:46 PM)
If not for the range anxiety, ev is really nice

Instant torque, no power loss from gear change

Don't wanna be in a situation, if forgot to charge, then gelabah thinking what to do next
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i would say for time being, stick to efficient ICE car.
battery tech should improve to at least 1000km range only switch.

i do consider myself a bit of a car guy.
yes, the instant torque + grip on the straight very nice nice.
but comes with drawback of having sluggish handling in the corner.
in terms of pure driving pleasure, i still prefer nimble car that can corner well.
as i always said, "any idiots can floor it on the straight. it takes skills to corner at speed".

oh ya, i also forgot to mention the idle fees anxiety.
public charger will giv u some grace period, but after that, they charges can rack up pretty quickly.
the whole thing about EV charging advertised as stress free, where u can park at charging station, then go about your shopping, lunch, then come bck with a full charge & continue your journey.
another lie.

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QUOTE(fongsk @ May 13 2025, 06:53 PM)
Agree with the risk you mentioned.  But this is the EV cars I am looking at.  I still have doubts about Chinese cars, with their drastic price reduction, not to mention the parts and reliability.
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Wait first bro, I think it needs another couple of Yee for it to mature.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ May 13 2025, 07:10 PM)
Wait first bro, I think it needs another couple of Yee for it to mature.
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That’s why I am considering for now. I am still not convinced on the EV yet. Stilll not mature yet.
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ May 13 2025, 06:46 PM)
If not for the range anxiety, ev is really nice

Instant torque, no power loss from gear change

Don't wanna be in a situation, if forgot to charge, then gelabah thinking what to do next
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TBH quite a number of charging point on the R&R NSE, going down south i can choose seremban R&R, senawang BESS, Melaka R&R, Tangkak R&R, Ayer Hitam Petronas etc. Once there is more EV car on the road, naturally it will have more CPO getting in to grab a piece of pie. I won't be surprise in future Petrol station will be running in hybrid mode, petrol and EV charging.

It is recommended for owner to have own charging point, if not everytime has to charge outside and it is quite costly.

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 06:43 PM)
yeah, my parents have the eHEV HRV and the concept just somehow works for me, i like the comfort of knowing that there's an ICE generator charging the battery but at the same time when it goes into full EV mode, it's quite comforting but i just wish that the EV mode can be a lot longer.

that thinking prompted me to want to try a pure EV.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ May 13 2025, 07:10 PM)
Wait first bro, I think it needs another couple of Yee for it to mature.
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agree.. problem with EV now is there too many china brands, thinly spread consumer pickup rates, uncvommon platform / motor design. So no OEM bother investing.

unlike honda i-mmd or toyota HEV all shared across multiple models including spare-parts also common to ICE; maintenance technical know-how cook-book is well documented. only thing the japs (in MY) are fukken complacent when come to QoL features. give it another decade or so i think they will get wiped out.. or absorbed become china sub-brands... like volvo..
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 06:40 PM)
strange that P2 did not request from Toyota to share with them one of their EV platforms. it would instantly be a winner.

my issue with P2's EV is that it is an all "in-house" made vehicle and they have never made an EV car before. i had a very bad experience with Proton's CAMPRO when it was first released in the Gen.2.

torque dip was crazy and although they eventually updated it with the IAFM and later the CPS, it was still a bad engine.
to me, buying an EV is like buying a smart phone, you'd always want to try to get the latest otherwise what you have today may be outdated by tomorrow, especially on its battery pack. isn't the Atto3 using older generation battery technologies?

user posted image

by the way, it's not just the guitar strings at the bottom but the entire dash. the steering wheel, the "wavy" dashboard, the odd looking air conditioning vents and the gear lever. everything just ticks me off.

x50/x70 still suffering from parts supplier problems? thought that has been solved already?
is it?

do explain. want to learn.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 13 2025, 06:40 PM)
strange that P2 did not request from Toyota to share with them one of their EV platforms. it would instantly be a winner.

my issue with P2's EV is that it is an all "in-house" made vehicle and they have never made an EV car before. i had a very bad experience with Proton's CAMPRO when it was first released in the Gen.2.

torque dip was crazy and although they eventually updated it with the IAFM and later the CPS, it was still a bad engine.
to me, buying an EV is like buying a smart phone, you'd always want to try to get the latest otherwise what you have today may be outdated by tomorrow, especially on its battery pack. isn't the Atto3 using older generation battery technologies?

user posted image

by the way, it's not just the guitar strings at the bottom but the entire dash. the steering wheel, the "wavy" dashboard, the odd looking air conditioning vents and the gear lever. everything just ticks me off.

x50/x70 still suffering from parts supplier problems? thought that has been solved already?
is it?

do explain. want to learn.
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can share which one to join? a lot of results came up from FB search.

am not concern with weight but length / space, my liftback is basically finished with a 24" and a hand carry. the rest have to go on the rear passenger seats. length wise, it's just ngam-ngam for a 120cm ironing board (diagonally) with the rear seats folded down.

i need something that i don't mind having the interior scratched.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ May 13 2025, 06:53 PM)
Agree with the risk you mentioned.  But this is the EV cars I am looking at.  I still have doubts about Chinese cars, with their drastic price reduction, not to mention the parts and reliability.
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Honestly, i personally think that China EVs have matured enough that you can't really go any more wrong than buying an ordinary ICE vehicle. The fact that rebates/discounts are flying everywhere because like all technologies, they go obsolete pretty quickly. Just like smart devices, you can get massive rebates by just only waiting for 1 year but that doesn't mean that it is out of date, it's just "not as good".

this endless vicious cycle will not cease.

QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 13 2025, 07:03 PM)
i would say for time being, stick to efficient ICE car.
battery tech should improve to at least 1000km range only switch.

i do consider myself a bit of a car guy.
yes, the instant torque + grip on the straight very nice nice.
but comes with drawback of having sluggish handling in the corner.
in terms of pure driving pleasure, i still prefer nimble car that can corner well.

as i always said, "any idiots can floor it on the straight. it takes skills to corner at speed".

oh ya, i also forgot to mention the idle fees anxiety.
public charger will giv u some grace period, but after that, they charges can rack up pretty quickly.
the whole thing about EV charging advertised as stress free, where u can park at charging station, then go about your shopping, lunch, then come bck with a full charge & continue your journey.
another lie.
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i think we are still a long way from an affordable and mass produced EVs that is going to have up to a 1000km range, probably in the next 10 years or so but i don't think it's practical because it's just going to take far too long a time to charge it too full. most people are going to get it up to 70%/80% and then get on with life.

by the way, there are performance EVs at the moment, it's just not within the reach of many people.

with respect to the EV charging rates, what do you mean by "grace period" and "charges can rack up pretty quickly"? thought the rates are set and regulated?

QUOTE(kembayang @ May 13 2025, 08:33 PM)
To TS Hyundai EV promo free wallbox and solar system.
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ada yang priced same dengan eMas7 ke?

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 14 2025, 09:17 AM)
Honestly, i personally think that China EVs have matured enough that you can't really go any more wrong than buying an ordinary ICE vehicle. The fact that rebates/discounts are flying everywhere because like all technologies, they go obsolete pretty quickly. Just like smart devices, you can get massive rebates by just only waiting for 1 year but that doesn't mean that it is out of date, it's just "not as good".

this endless vicious cycle will not cease.
i think we are still a long way from an affordable and mass produced EVs that is going to have up to a 1000km range, probably in the next 10 years or so but i don't think it's practical because it's just going to take far too long a time to charge it too full. most people are going to get it up to 70%/80% and then get on with life.

by the way, there are performance EVs at the moment, it's just not within the reach of many people.

with respect to the EV charging rates, what do you mean by "grace period" and "charges can rack up pretty quickly"? thought the rates are set and regulated?
ada yang priced same dengan eMas7 ke?

share?
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I don’t know. I still believe EV has a long way to go (like at least 3-5 years) away from reaching the level of my comfort. The charging infra is still not there, especially in smaller towns. The personal charger is still way off my expectations.

And my perception of an EV includes the ability for driverless control. It is still long way from what I imagine. Maybe my expectations are too high but it is nice to have this functionality.

I do not fancy the gimmicks like large screens, etc etc. they are good to have and are there to impress the buyers, I think. Hence, I am ok for the basic functionality of the softwares sides of Perodua EMO. Still considering… LoL

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 14 2025, 09:17 AM)
Honestly, i personally think that China EVs have matured enough that you can't really go any more wrong than buying an ordinary ICE vehicle. The fact that rebates/discounts are flying everywhere because like all technologies, they go obsolete pretty quickly. Just like smart devices, you can get massive rebates by just only waiting for 1 year but that doesn't mean that it is out of date, it's just "not as good".

this endless vicious cycle will not cease.
i think we are still a long way from an affordable and mass produced EVs that is going to have up to a 1000km range, probably in the next 10 years or so but i don't think it's practical because it's just going to take far too long a time to charge it too full. most people are going to get it up to 70%/80% and then get on with life.

by the way, there are performance EVs at the moment, it's just not within the reach of many people.

with respect to the EV charging rates, what do you mean by "grace period" and "charges can rack up pretty quickly"? thought the rates are set and regulated?
ada yang priced same dengan eMas7 ke?

share?
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to reach 1000km range, the only way perhap is solid state batteries, king of battery manufacturer CATL stating solid state is at a very high cost and not feasible at the moment, they are anticipating at least 3-5 years for technology breakthrough.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ May 14 2025, 09:17 AM)
Honestly, i personally think that China EVs have matured enough that you can't really go any more wrong than buying an ordinary ICE vehicle. The fact that rebates/discounts are flying everywhere because like all technologies, they go obsolete pretty quickly. Just like smart devices, you can get massive rebates by just only waiting for 1 year but that doesn't mean that it is out of date, it's just "not as good".

this endless vicious cycle will not cease.
i think we are still a long way from an affordable and mass produced EVs that is going to have up to a 1000km range, probably in the next 10 years or so but i don't think it's practical because it's just going to take far too long a time to charge it too full. most people are going to get it up to 70%/80% and then get on with life.

by the way, there are performance EVs at the moment, it's just not within the reach of many people.

with respect to the EV charging rates, what do you mean by "grace period" and "charges can rack up pretty quickly"? thought the rates are set and regulated?
ada yang priced same dengan eMas7 ke?

share?
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that's the whole point.
battery is nvr good if u always go from 100% > 0% & vice versa.
ideally, u'll want it to always close to 50% charge.
so a higher capacity battery not only boast longer range on paper, but it will also im average degrade slower.

i'm talking about idle fees that prevent hogging.
it's different from brand to brand & location to location.
most of the busy area will hav 15 minutes grace, then RM 1-2 every 5m.
some location allow overnight charging with no idle fees.
tesla supercharger idle fee is RM2/m, or RM4/m if fuly occupied.

imagine, u drive your EV to a public charger location. u plug it in, it says 20m to charge.
great, u'll just go hav lunch around that area.
u sat down, look order, but service is slow today, u waited long time for your food.
by the time your food arrived, 5m left for grace period. ideally, u should be already walking bck to your car at that moment.
u eat quickly & pay, knowing every minute that u're late, u rack up charges.
overall, u dont enjoy your meal, & the whole charging experience is stressful.

cherry on top, each public charger brand requires its own app, which is really annoying.
imagine each brand of petrol station only accept its own currency.
actually, that'a not so bad cuz petrol stations are plentiful & most people stick to their favorite brand anyway.
buy EV charger, u're left with the mercy of whichever available in the vicinity.

owning EV now adds unnecessary stress & anxiety into my life.
there's proper use case & compatible ownership.
infra, r&r is just not there yet.

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ May 13 2025, 02:12 PM)
CP coming July. Not really customized version, also handled by Geely not proton. Geely EX5 in AU/NZ they also promise similar timeline. The OS is pretty much fully handled by Geely/Meizu team.

AA abit later in the year, but already got workaround to use a developmental version now, maybe they “accidentally” put it in the build so ppl don’t need to wait too long and complain more.

As for the drive settings yes. It’s a little annoying, but already gotten used to it.

As for the safety related settings memang always will turn back on next time u start the car even after you turn off, most other new cars including other ccp EVs also liddat, to fulfill the regulations and get better safety rating since those stuff are on by default.

So since have to turn off the annoying safety stuff like speed limit warning every time anyway, also become habit to set the drive settings at the same time.

Nothing much of a dealbreaker but u making it sound like end of the world lmao
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Justify ur purchase all u want, its a dealbreaker for most people, TRY LEVELING the playing field for BYD and see how BYD tapao the local brand

I BET u will buy SL7 if it priced 150k than 130k proton
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 14 2025, 12:02 PM)
that's the whole point.
battery is nvr good if u always go from 100% > 0% & vice versa.
ideally, u'll want it to always close to 50% charge.
so a higher capacity battery not only boast longer range on paper, but it will also im average degrade slower.

i'm talking about idle fees that prevent hogging.
it's different from brand to brand & location to location.
most of the busy area will hav 15 minutes grace, then RM 1-2 every 5m.
some location allow overnight charging with no idle fees.
tesla supercharger idle fee is RM2/m, or RM4/m if fuly occupied.

imagine, u drive your EV to a public charger location. u plug it in, it says 20m to charge.
great, u'll just go hav lunch around that area.
u sat down, look order, but service is slow today, u waited long time for your food.
by the time your food arrived, 5m left for grace period. ideally, u should be already walking bck to your car at that moment.
u eat quickly & pay, knowing every minute that u're late, u rack up charges.
overall, u dont enjoy your meal, & the whole charging experience is stressful.

cherry on top, each public charger brand requires its own app, which is really annoying.
imagine each brand of petrol station only accept its own currency.
actually, that'a not so bad cuz petrol stations are plentiful & most people stick to their favorite brand anyway.
buy EV charger, u're left with the mercy of whichever available in the vicinity.

owning EV now adds unnecessary stress & anxiety into my life.
there's proper use case & compatible ownership.
infra, r&r is just not there yet.
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There would be no such problem if you house has charger.
But let's say you're staying in high rise, then yea you can forget about EV.

There is more than 30k EV owners in Malaysia i think most of them dont feel what you feel.
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post May 14 2025, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ May 14 2025, 12:28 PM)
Justify ur purchase all u want, its a dealbreaker for most people, TRY LEVELING the playing field for BYD and see how BYD tapao the local brand

I BET u will buy SL7 if it priced 150k than 130k proton
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Same saying to I BET you will buy Model Y if it priced 150k than 130k proton

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post May 14 2025, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ May 14 2025, 12:28 PM)
Justify ur purchase all u want, its a dealbreaker for most people, TRY LEVELING the playing field for BYD and see how BYD tapao the local brand

I BET u will buy SL7 if it priced 150k than 130k proton
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The playing field is level (both are imported and above 100k)

It’s just Sime Darby’s choice to price it higher (refer to how much margin they put in the Atto3 and the price now, don’t tell me the govt forced them to sell at that price lol, reserving some pricing space for the Dolphin is one thing but it was their choice, they could’ve been more competitive from the get go and gotten more sales over from ICE if they priced the Atto3 and Seal more competitively from the beginning and just forgo the dolphin, but it was their choice to milk the consumers, heard even BYD hq themselves not happy with them lol)
And it’s a segment higher, comparable one would be sealion05 but it’s not here, and atto3 is outdated

But yes if the SL7 is 140-150k then it’s definitely worth considering, what makes you think I’m just blindly defending lol, I’ve test driven most of them, incl. atto3 when it first came out and felt it wasn’t worth it at that price, at the current price yes but the Proton is the better option at the same price, but now suddenly drag SL7 into the conversation pulak

I’m not trying to justify anything, just stating objective facts, I follow closely all the developments of these CCP EVs here and in China, I don’t hate BYD lol dunno what u so mad about topkek

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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 14 2025, 12:37 PM)
There would be no such problem if you house has charger.
But let's say you're staying in high rise, then yea you can forget about EV.

There is more than 30k EV owners in Malaysia i think most of them dont feel what you feel.
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Correct, just plug in at night and let it charge 5-8 hrs, by morning it should be fully charge.

Even some condo also invite CPO to install charger into their condo.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ May 14 2025, 01:02 PM)
that's the whole point.
battery is nvr good if u always go from 100% > 0% & vice versa.
ideally, u'll want it to always close to 50% charge.
so a higher capacity battery not only boast longer range on paper, but it will also im average degrade slower.

i'm talking about idle fees that prevent hogging.
it's different from brand to brand & location to location.
most of the busy area will hav 15 minutes grace, then RM 1-2 every 5m.
some location allow overnight charging with no idle fees.
tesla supercharger idle fee is RM2/m, or RM4/m if fuly occupied.

imagine, u drive your EV to a public charger location. u plug it in, it says 20m to charge.
great, u'll just go hav lunch around that area.
u sat down, look order, but service is slow today, u waited long time for your food.
by the time your food arrived, 5m left for grace period. ideally, u should be already walking bck to your car at that moment.
u eat quickly & pay, knowing every minute that u're late, u rack up charges.
overall, u dont enjoy your meal, & the whole charging experience is stressful.

cherry on top, each public charger brand requires its own app, which is really annoying.
imagine each brand of petrol station only accept its own currency.
actually, that'a not so bad cuz petrol stations are plentiful & most people stick to their favorite brand anyway.
buy EV charger, u're left with the mercy of whichever available in the vicinity.

owning EV now adds unnecessary stress & anxiety into my life.
there's proper use case & compatible ownership.
infra, r&r is just not there yet.
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Yada Yada. I only charge at home. No queue no anxiety no shit. Wltp 550km I can get 450km easily on single charge

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Which model is this ? I remember emas 7 front has a lot of part including motor etc
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Which model is this ? I remember emas 7 front has a lot of part including motor etc
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QUOTE(vexus @ May 14 2025, 10:35 PM)
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first emas total loss, saw it in the group.

I would consider the car did well on the crash impact, door still can open, passenger is safe.
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buy or no buy?



 

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