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TSRT8081
post May 10 2025, 06:55 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Chinese-Made PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Components Came Down Intact Inside India


Pakistani use of PL-15Es against Indian fighters opens up a new vector for intelligence exploitation on one of China's most threatening missiles.

The largely intact rear section and other parts of a Chinese-made PL-15E active-radar-guided air-to-air missile came down in India during a battle in the skies along the country’s border with Pakistan earlier this week. While many details about the aerial confrontation between the two countries remain murky, it marked the first known combat use of any version of the PL-15. Recovery of any parts of what is one of China’s most modern air-to-air missiles could be of great interest to authorities in India, as well as to its allies and partners.

Readers can otherwise find out more about the ongoing India-Pakistan crisis in TWZ‘s reporting here.


https://www.twz.com/air/parts-of-a-pakistan...fter-air-battle

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post May 10 2025, 06:57 PM

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They will find the blueprint is just like an American missile.
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post May 10 2025, 06:58 PM

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Pakistan just spam the India air space with missiles some miss but 5 hit the targets. Bingo!
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post May 10 2025, 06:58 PM

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don't judge CCP

they are no.1 in killing human
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post May 10 2025, 06:58 PM

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In the Ukrainian conflict also same for Nato / western weapons , some missile failed to function and crashed , Russian took them home to examine. Weapons dont always work as advertised it happens to all ..
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post May 10 2025, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 10 2025, 06:57 PM)
They will find the blueprint is just like an American missile.
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maybe even find "made in malaysia" components inside ...
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post May 10 2025, 07:02 PM

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Yalor, why they build such a low quality missile that record first ever kill of the mighty rafale jet? Really low class.

Btw, the moment the missile is export, it means all measure is in place to protect leak of classified tech even they are in tact. U sell to other ma, it open up for reverse engineering.
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post May 10 2025, 07:03 PM

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So lousy. Even meriam buluh a million times better than China made missile.

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post May 10 2025, 07:03 PM

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But their EV can kaboom
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post May 10 2025, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(commonsense @ May 10 2025, 07:02 PM)
Yalor, why they build such a low quality missile that record first ever kill of the mighty rafale jet? Really low class.

Btw, the moment the missile is export, it means all measure is in place to protect leak of classified tech even they are in tact. U sell to other ma, it open up for reverse engineering.
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If the tech is copied, why should they care if it's reversed engineered? laugh.gif
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post May 10 2025, 07:05 PM

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Even CCP toy missiles shot down the Rafael jets.😅
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post May 10 2025, 07:07 PM

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there are some lemon units everywhere ma, not everything is 100% usable
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post May 10 2025, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(commonsense @ May 10 2025, 07:02 PM)
Yalor, why they build such a low quality missile that record first ever kill of the mighty rafale jet? Really low class.

Btw, the moment the missile is export, it means all measure is in place to protect leak of classified tech even they are in tact. U sell to other ma, it open up for reverse engineering.
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Yeap, The capability is like 50% of the OG. No one sell the complete version of a weapon
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post May 10 2025, 07:10 PM

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I only see leftover booster
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post May 10 2025, 07:11 PM

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The price is 10% compare to western
Tikam je also can hit
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post May 10 2025, 07:12 PM

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Half intact, US can copy that dual pulse motor export model
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 10 2025, 07:04 PM)
If the tech is copied, why should they care if it's reversed engineered?  laugh.gif
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Exactly. haha
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post May 10 2025, 07:13 PM

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Chinese J10 managed to down French Rafale while F16 were grounded.
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post May 10 2025, 07:47 PM

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great interest to authorities in India, as well as to its allies and partners.

bharat partner and allies....
(xxp?)
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post May 10 2025, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ May 10 2025, 07:12 PM)
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Half intact, US can copy that dual pulse motor export model
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can explain more. seems like it is intended to split in half?
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post May 10 2025, 08:38 PM

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AA missiles have range. If target-locked jet turn around fast enough and goes cold, the missile may run out of fuel (ie. out of range) and fall down without hitting anything. When it hits the ground, the warhead goes off and that's why the tip of the missile is missing.

By the way, no way India can reverse engineer it even if they understand the missile components inside out since they won't have the critical minerals to manufacture it. smile.gif

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post May 10 2025, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 10 2025, 08:13 PM)
can explain more. seems like it is intended to split in half?
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It is like AIM 120 AMRAAM design...what shown in the pic is they found the first stage of missiles.....

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post May 10 2025, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ May 10 2025, 07:12 PM)
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Half intact, US can copy that dual pulse motor export model
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So the missile did its job on the Rafael, and dropped its spent motor for the Indians to gloat about Chinese tofu dreg weapons?
They'll take any small win, I guess.


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post May 10 2025, 08:58 PM

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post May 10 2025, 08:59 PM

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What they want to learn from a failed specimen?
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post May 10 2025, 09:01 PM

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Biasalah macam mercun juga ada yang ok ada yang masuk angin ini
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post May 10 2025, 09:15 PM

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I love to hear all the experts in warfare giving quality remarks lol
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post May 10 2025, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 10 2025, 08:13 PM)
can explain more. seems like it is intended to split in half?
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Yes AAM like the PL 15 and SAM are proximity kill weapon
while anti tank/ship missile are contact kill weapon

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post May 10 2025, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 10 2025, 09:15 PM)
I love to hear all the experts in warfare giving quality remarks lol
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Not expert, armschair general to be exact
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post May 11 2025, 12:02 AM

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plot twist, actually pakistan didnt down the indian rafale with CCP J10 jets or PL15 missiles
but actually they flew F16 and used american AIM missiles against the rafales
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post May 11 2025, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 10 2025, 08:13 PM)
can explain more. seems like it is intended to split in half?
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thats the warhead part of the missile that exploded. how most anti air missiles works are it is designed to fragmentate like shotgun before impacting their air targets to maximise damage against the thinly armored planes

they are not kinetic kill weapons which hits the planes directly
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post May 11 2025, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(caksz @ May 10 2025, 07:10 PM)
I only see leftover booster
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Finally some one who does some analysis before commenting
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post May 11 2025, 12:22 AM

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It come down intact yet this very missile in the one that brought done the Rafael
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post May 11 2025, 12:33 AM

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Kalau tak tau tolong simpan sikit

It's because Paki used more than one PL15 for a target

If the target is already destroyed, PL15 will self explode instead of harming any civilian

PRC weapon won't harm any innocent

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post May 11 2025, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 11 2025, 12:02 AM)
plot twist, actually pakistan didnt down the indian rafale with  CCP J10 jets or PL15 missiles
but actually they flew F16 and used american AIM missiles against the rafales
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You have to understand , if you buy American fighter jets , they put a condition that you cannot attack other country with it. Only self defense and some other terms. That is why Pak has to use PRC aircraft and not their F16.
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post May 11 2025, 12:55 AM

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is for enviromental friendly purpose. so can recycle and reuse..
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post May 11 2025, 01:48 AM

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ya la ya la, IAF win big by successfully block few lousy PL15E with whole Rafale jet lol happy?
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post May 11 2025, 05:20 AM

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surprised the spent motor part is almost intact after fell thousands of meters out of the sky . is this a fake ?

https://x.com/Defence_IDA/status/1920057405976539215/photo/1
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post May 11 2025, 05:22 AM

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Yindian pilots got another bloody nose from the paki. 😅
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https://www.twz.com/air/parts-of-a-pakistan...fter-air-battle

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did not even make a crater on the ground . do you think it weights 100g ? fake PL-15.

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post May 11 2025, 08:34 AM

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lol Indian made fake PL-15 prop for amdk to syok sendiri
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QUOTE(GagalLand @ May 11 2025, 12:33 AM)
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Kalau tak tau tolong simpan sikit

It's because Paki used more than one PL15 for a target

If the target is already destroyed, PL15 will self explode instead of harming any civilian

PRC weapon won't harm any innocent
It won't harm the surveillance
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