Thanks for the info. How do you use it? Pour in where? Can DIY?

No. I saw 2 cans of BP Castrol on the floor. Not toyota brand. 😔

Lol. Jerung sounds nice.
How to tell if got sticking? Any tell tales signs when driving?

Oh so means it's normal to use more than 4L that runs it to rm220? Some forumer says rm180/4L.

Lol. I let my trusted mechanic made the choice

Mana ada. It's some forumer mentioned street price 180/4L. My actual bill is 220 as in photo. I have no idea how many litres used though cos didn't see through the whole process.

Hmm. He initially said top up would not cost much. Why end up 220 is what made me posted here to ask.

Now I m getting confused. So I asked chatgpt.
Answer is for infrequent driving - change 60k km or 5-6 years whichever comes first. My mileage is 40k km. Car age is 10 year old. So I think he is not wrong too even though it not necessary. I figured he did a partial drain and fill of 4L without changing the filter. However no more touching atf in future as chatgpt highlighted it as risky unless it's very dirty. So yeah Kena ripped off 220. Damn.

Tyre changed once full set. They checked said no issue till next year. Also bought from them previously.

Hmm. I went asking chatgpt. Said should be toyota atf ws. Damn. If it is really dexron, what to do now?

Somehow I feel it's better to check manufacturer website n buy their original oil instead of buying from workshop. At least we r certain the authenticity n correct specification. That's why I insist buying my own engine oil and bring to them to help me change. the used oil let them collect and send for recycle.

This post has been edited by echho: May 11 2025, 11:58 AM

Lol. Just did. My memory failed me. It was toyota atf ws. I went looking at his shelfs looking for my mental picture. Also confirmed by windshield sticker remark written as atf ws which I didn't bother to read initially.

Also asked him why changed my atf prematurely instead of 80-100k. He gave reasons sitting too long so it's preventive maintainence. He flushed everything and refill new atf. But said no need to change filter. This left me with doubts but time will tell.

My memory failed n confused me. It wasn't bp castrol. It's real toyota atf ws in its white green can. I scanned his shelfs for white green can and this is the only one. So now peace of mind. Sorry for misleading everyone here.

This post has been edited by echho: May 11 2025, 12:02 PM

Sitting 4 years? No. It's moving minimally every 2-3weeks last 2 years. Before that it has accumulated 36k km for 8 years with daily short commute.

🤝🤝🤝 Hi buddy. Lol. I went from young n naive preventive maintenence to now after owning few cars. No at once but new replace old one each time.

I realised petrol based products etc last a decade if not longer. They are almost next to resins in some ways and far more stable then resins. In order to deteriorate, they need to be oxidised by heat, water, and some chemical contact. If those factors are minimal in a fully consealed car system, they probably still deteriorate just very slowly. Hence the term wear and tear, based on mileage and rarely time-based. (unlike rubber gasket sort of materials)

Been reading sometimes ago in reddit which also confirmed my hypothesis. A guy who served 40 years in US army wrote the only time the army trucks and aircrafts have a change of any engine or transmission oil is when the oil analysis indicates the need. As such he only changed his cars fully synthetic oil every 40k km. Another guy posted his engine oil clear and brown in clear pvc pipe which only ran 3k km in 5 years.

Manufacturers recommendation is based on bell shape normal usage. So when we are out of normal bell shape, best to research up what's really best before proceeding which may harm the 'old' car more.