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post May 7 2025, 08:44 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Chinese-made PL-15 missile debris found in India


Indian authorities have recovered parts of a Chinese-made PL-15 air-to-air missile in Hoshiarpur, Punjab, following recent military escalations with Pakistan.

Indian media published photos of the missile remnants, though the circumstances of the missile’s presence in Indian territory remain under investigation.

The PL-15, developed by China, is an advanced beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile. The domestic variant can reach distances of 200 to 300 kilometers, while the export version used by Pakistan—designated PL-15E—has a reported range of approximately 145 kilometers. It achieves speeds above Mach 5 using a dual-pulse solid-propellant rocket motor and is guided by an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar seeker with mid-course datalink updates.

Earlier, Pakistan released the first official images of its upgraded JF-17C fighter aircraft armed with PL-10 and PL-15 missiles. For the first time, officials in Islamabad confirmed the fighter’s capability to deploy the long-range PL-15, highlighting China’s growing role in arming Pakistan with high-tech air combat systems.



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post May 7 2025, 08:46 PM

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Pakistan ones.
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Bharats wanna Salah Cina Komunis kah?
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Will this escalate into a proxy war to prepare for the main showdown between US and China?
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 7 2025, 08:56 PM)
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can, only that piece since the AESA seeker already destroyed
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 7 2025, 08:56 PM)
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ May 7 2025, 09:03 PM)
can, only that piece since the AESA seeker already destroyed
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Of course cannot

See Tejas? Failed.. then buy Rafale to learn, also not much progress
See Kaveri engines? Sampai mampus will not siap
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lucky... can still see what it was...

if it was a nuke, no chance to see who made that particular nuke.
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So China arsenal has begun war testing certification ?
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Nothing wrong, paki bought china fighter jet with missiles. Like Malaysia bought Russia one and Russia used china drone in Ukraine
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PL-15 missiles are superior. if it can destroy one rafale with deadly accuracy , it means it can hit almost all the rafale within no-escape zone .
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ May 8 2025, 08:54 AM)
PL-15 missiles are superior.  if it can destroy one rafale with deadly accuracy , it means it can hit almost all the rafale within no-escape zone .
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also with PL-15, one can shoot down enemy jet deep inside their own territory
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ May 8 2025, 09:54 AM)
PL-15 missiles are superior.  if it can destroy one rafale with deadly accuracy , it means it can hit almost all the rafale within no-escape zone .
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balat pun tak malu....like tat kasi tembak by pakis with ccp made missiles..
i bet their tembok so thick missile also cant penetrate



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there is PL-16 and PL-17 already, the PL-18 is under development, alot of new tech in china, they are moving so fast, every other year another new concept of missiles, some tailored for major planes some meant for 5th and 6th gen, some exclusive for 6th gen
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Israel's enemies are interested in the China weapons . anything that can kick Israel's ass can fetch a high price.

thanks to modi who volunteered to be the marketing director of china weapons for the last few days. expect china fighter jets and missiles to sell like hot cakes in future.

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 7 2025, 08:51 PM)
Will this escalate into a proxy war to prepare for the main showdown between US and China?
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Bharat weapons mostly from Russia and France, not much US asset

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didnt last time they said all chinese techs owned by pakistan inoperable? must be mistaken then blurred by bharat egoism..
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QUOTE(nobrainer86 @ May 8 2025, 11:28 AM)
Bharat weapons mostly from Russia and France, not much US asset
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I think US has never trusted India in the past because of their close relationship with Russia

But India saying they are buying F35 from US
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ May 8 2025, 01:54 AM)
PL-15 missiles are superior.  if it can destroy one rafale with deadly accuracy , it means it can hit almost all the rafale within no-escape zone .
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Let's see how West reacts to lousy cheap skate copy cat Chinese weapon beating expensive Western system.
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they supply weapon to paki ma, even paki jet fighter was join developed with china
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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 8 2025, 10:38 AM)
I think US has never trusted India in the past because of their close relationship with Russia

But India saying they are buying F35 from US
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F35 is only for close ally

India lol
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QUOTE(touristking @ May 8 2025, 10:42 AM)
Let's see how West reacts to lousy cheap skate copy cat Chinese weapon beating expensive Western system.
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by western you mean russia?
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QUOTE(anakkk @ May 8 2025, 03:44 AM)
by western you mean russia?
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one thing is certain . no more dog fights like TOM CRUISE 's bullshit movies . fire one superior missile like PL-15 few hundreds KM away from enemy jet . game over for the enemy jet.
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ May 8 2025, 11:54 AM)
one thing is certain . no more dog fights like TOM CRUISE 's bullshit movies . fire one superior missile  like PL-15  few hundreds KM away from enemy jet . game over for  the enemy jet.
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You don't even see the enemy jets nowadays. Its probably just a bleep on the radar screen laugh.gif
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QUOTE(touristking @ May 8 2025, 10:42 AM)
Let's see how West reacts to lousy cheap skate copy cat Chinese weapon beating expensive Western system.
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on other forums they blame the iincompetency of bharat air force
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ May 8 2025, 10:24 AM)
Israel's enemies  are interested in the China weapons . anything that can kick  Israel's ass can fetch a high price.

thanks to modi  who volunteered to be the marketing director of china weapons for the last few days. expect china fighter jets and missiles to sell like hot cakes in future.
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China will sell in package, u buy JF17, have to buy PL-15, HQ-9, ZDK-03 as a whole

India Rafale was show down, HQ-9 radar lock in India Rafale, Rafale thought HQ-9 aim it, mana tau co-ordinate share to ZDK-03, ZDK-03 transmit data to JF-17 and PL-15 shoot out, in chinese proverb we call it sound east and hit by west.

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中國戰術
印巴空戰
巴基斯坦擊落侵入領空的印度戰機
贏了第一回合
關鍵卻是「中國戰術」
這個發展很值得注意
印度被擊落的戰機是法製「飆風戰機」
號稱歐美最強的四代半戰機
兼具對地及反艦等多種打擊能力
這次徹底翻了一個大筋斗
因為巴基斯坦運用了解放軍的戰術
巴軍先用紅旗-9防空系統
率先鎖定印度的飆風戰機
再通過「數據鏈」把目標
傳給巴軍的殲10C戰機發射
霹靂15空對空導彈
印軍飆風戰機發現
被紅旗9飛彈鎖定時
確實迅速逃逸要擺脫紅旗9飛彈
但沒想到真正發動攻擊的
是殲10C發射的霹靂15空對空導彈
殲10C沒有用雷達鎖定印軍的飆風戰機
所以飆風戰機不認爲殲10C能發動攻擊
因爲霹靂15導彈沒有鎖定雷達可以引導
所以ㄧ直以為將由紅旗9發射防空導彈
印軍沒想到的是
紅旗9飛彈的雷達鎖定飆風戰機後
不只把數據傳給殲10C戰機
還同時把數據傳給
陜西飛機工業製造的ZDK-03預警機
由ZDK-03預警機導引霹靂15導彈
擊中印軍的飆風戰機
解放軍傳授給巴軍的這套中國戰術
由紅旗9防空系統結合ZDK-03預警機
以及殲10C的霹靂15空對空導彈
結合成虛虛實實的空軍戰術
讓歐美軍事專家簡直看傻了眼
相對的
印度的飆風戰機是法國製造
攜帶的流星空對空導彈是英國製造
預警機是以色列製造的費爾康EL/M2075
防空導彈是俄羅斯製造的S-400
這些武器各自獨立都很厲害
但無法整合成同一條數據鏈
沒有辦法如臂使指般的統合作戰
就這樣敗下陣來

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 8 2025, 10:38 AM)
I think US has never trusted India in the past because of their close relationship with Russia

But India saying they are buying F35 from US
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Bharat saying

Doesn't mean US selling
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ May 8 2025, 04:21 AM)
on other forums they blame the iincompetency of bharat air force
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That is Western style lah.

Lion Air crash, it is pilot fault.
Ethiopia, it is pilot fault.
Rafale crash, it is pilot fault
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was going through the videos and comments on tiktok, the chinese are overwhelmingly backing the Pakistanis. I never seen this level of support shown by China to a foreign nation excep maybe to russia.
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ May 8 2025, 02:50 PM)
was going through the videos and comments on tiktok, the chinese are overwhelmingly backing the Pakistanis. I never seen this level of support shown by China to a foreign nation excep maybe to russia.
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if you mean china citizens then you got to know that pakistan have been loyal allies with china since 1950s
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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 8 2025, 10:38 AM)
I think US has never trusted India in the past because of their close relationship with Russia

But India saying they are buying F35 from US
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Ten years ago also got rumors of Lockheed offer to move production line of f16 to bharat in order to secure their jet sale. Bharat choose Rafael. Their military procurement very slow one with full of twists and turned
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 8 2025, 03:54 PM)
Ten years ago also got rumors of Lockheed offer to move production line of f16 to bharat in order to secure their jet sale. Bharat choose Rafael. Their military procurement very slow one with full of twists and turned
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India helping to market China high tech armaments to the rich gulf muslim countries.
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Bharat successfully intercepted CCP's PL-15 missile using earth
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PAK just downed 6 india jets in one go . meaning PAK was showing restraint . it could down far more planes with PL-15s . the last thing PAK wants is the full fledged war .
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so this mean no western weapons are as powerful as China made ones
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ May 8 2025, 06:49 PM)
PAK just downed 6 india jets in one go . meaning PAK was showing restraint . it could down far more planes with PL-15s . the last thing PAK wants is the full fledged war .
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paki got 250 pl15

if one time show hand, sure modi is fumbling for nuke button dy

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QUOTE(Freshmeat21 @ May 8 2025, 03:12 PM)
Bharat successfully intercepted CCP's PL-15 missile using earth
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really? I thought the more accurate description is they incepted the missiles with fighter jets... lol
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ May 8 2025, 02:50 PM)
was going through the videos and comments on tiktok, the chinese are overwhelmingly backing the Pakistanis. I never seen this level of support shown by China to a foreign nation excep maybe to russia.
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Makes sense. If there is one critical infrastructure project of BRI, it has to be the ones in Pakistan. Also Pakistan is using Chinese military equipment so there's some national pride involved. Even Russia doesn't enjoy this kind of support by Chinese, more like 50:50.
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ May 8 2025, 07:16 PM)

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Meanwhile



Ccp tech failed to stop india again
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 8 2025, 07:37 PM)
Meanwhile



Ccp tech failed to stop india again
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Don't care. Anyways...


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"The PL-15 is a big problem. It is something that the U.S. military pays a lot of attention to," a defense industry executive said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/global-...tle-2025-05-08/

The United States is developing the AIM-260 Joint Advanced Tactical Missile via Lockheed Martin (LMT.N), opens new tab partly in response to the PL-15 and its beyond-visual-range performance .

AIM-260A JATM Testing is Ongoing


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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 7 2025, 09:09 PM)
Of course cannot

See Tejas? Failed.. then buy Rafale to learn, also not much progress
See Kaveri engines? Sampai mampus will not siap
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how about indian aircraft carrier

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how about indian aircraft carrier
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bharat just bought carrier based rafale for their carriers lol
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lol nice mocking
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As of 2025, one French carrier— Charles de Gaulle—remains in service of the French government.

even Charles de Gaulle carrier operate Rafale jets.

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The way i see it, china doesnt want another 1 billion population coutry taking away china’s businesses ie the factories, manufactring plants etc
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ May 8 2025, 02:50 PM)
was going through the videos and comments on tiktok, the chinese are overwhelmingly backing the Pakistanis. I never seen this level of support shown by China to a foreign nation excep maybe to russia.
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If you are a Chinese and have been to Pakistan before, you will know.

Doesnt have to be a China Chinese.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 8 2025, 02:51 PM)
if you mean china citizens then you got to know that pakistan have been loyal allies with china since 1950s
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I got a pakistan co-worker in the past like more than 10 years ago, professional expat not kuli type .

He often story about pakistan to me, he said pakistan ppl respect russia and good friend with china, they hate bharat and usa.

Ask me go visit pakistan and since look like chinese will get first class treatment there.

He shares alot of pakistan culture with me, and also islam + terrorist in pakistan. Educated muslim in pakistan isnt extremist and he view malaysia muslim is more extreme than himself in general and he said malaysian practice wrong type of islam.

In pakistan people hunt boar and use dog, even have swine farm, touching, raising swine isnt haram. Eating is. He said that is halal work to earn money honestly and legally, no part in quran say cannot touch or raise swine.

He said, terrorist is from slum, uneducated, poor from kampong. He said its unforturnate pakistan is poor. If the society is tad bid richer, there wont be any terrorist.

Really open up my horizon listen to his story, maybe cool story, but i do due diligent google really got swine farm in pakistan and they export pork too.

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ May 9 2025, 12:01 PM)
I got a pakistan co-worker in the past like more than 10 years ago, professional expat not kuli type .

He often story about pakistan to me, he said pakistan ppl respect russia and good friend with china, they hate bharat and usa.

Ask me go visit pakistan and since look like chinese will get first class treatment there.

He shares alot of pakistan culture with me, and also islam + terrorist in pakistan. Educated muslim in pakistan isnt extremist and he view malaysia muslim is more extreme than himself in general and he said malaysian practice wrong type of islam.

In pakistan people hunt boar and use dog, even have swine farm, touching, raising swine isnt haram. Eating is. He said that is halal work to earn money honestly and legally, no part in quran say cannot touch or raise swine.

He said, terrorist is from slum, uneducated, poor from kampong. He said its unforturnate pakistan is poor. If the society is tad bid richer, there wont be any terrorist.

Really open up my horizon listen to his story, maybe cool story, but i do due diligent google really got swine farm in pakistan and they export pork too.
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ain't in Douyin many videos about corrupted Pakistani govt officers esp immigration keep extorting CCP chinese? laugh.gif
the Pakistanis also see CCP chinese as water fish, literally a mobile ATM
probably CCP kept portray chinese are most generous and would donate and splurge money to help Pakistanis whistling.gif

on another part of muslim, Msian oren kito are known for the most radical one.. thanks to what BMX did in 80s, yeah
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PL-15 rules the sky . another deepseek moment. expect more deepseek moment in future.

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Ccp don’t write in cainis?
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PL-15 rules the sky . another deepseek moment. expect more  deepseek moment in future.
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Rules on the sky for a few minutes until it drops without exploding. Thanks to China made bombs, many Indians can stay alive. India should pray to China.

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QUOTE(yed @ May 9 2025, 05:17 PM)
Ccp don’t write in cainis?
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export hardware takkan write in chinese
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ May 9 2025, 12:01 PM)
I got a pakistan co-worker in the past like more than 10 years ago, professional expat not kuli type .

He often story about pakistan to me, he said pakistan ppl respect russia and good friend with china, they hate bharat and usa.

Ask me go visit pakistan and since look like chinese will get first class treatment there.

He shares alot of pakistan culture with me, and also islam + terrorist in pakistan. Educated muslim in pakistan isnt extremist and he view malaysia muslim is more extreme than himself in general and he said malaysian practice wrong type of islam.

In pakistan people hunt boar and use dog, even have swine farm, touching, raising swine isnt haram. Eating is. He said that is halal work to earn money honestly and legally, no part in quran say cannot touch or raise swine.

He said, terrorist is from slum, uneducated, poor from kampong. He said its unforturnate pakistan is poor. If the society is tad bid richer, there wont be any terrorist.

Really open up my horizon listen to his story, maybe cool story, but i do due diligent google really got swine farm in pakistan and they export pork too.
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And that's why in order to eliminate terrorism in the Xinjiang region, China put that whole area under expedited development.
They made it a free trade zone in 2023, and tripled its GDP in 10 years.
China is trying to help Pakistan with this same model, in their terrorism- rife area of Balochistan. Gave them a new international airport in Gwadar, build schools and hospitals there.

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It’s discover that it’s not due to ccp airplane & missilr superiority. It’s because pakistan use saab airwacs which can detect enemy jet fighter from far.

India learned their lesson and shooting down pakistan awacs and 3 ccp plane already

Now the fight is same level..let’s see which are more superior
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QUOTE(yed @ May 10 2025, 10:15 AM)
It’s discover that it’s not due to ccp airplane & missilr superiority. It’s because pakistan use saab airwacs which can detect enemy jet fighter from far.

India learned their lesson and shooting down pakistan awacs and 3 ccp plane already

Now the fight is same level..let’s see which are more superior
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Saab awacs a westerm system and is not compatible with the J10 & PL-15
only the ZDK-03 CCP awacs in pakistan service used to help the shooting

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QUOTE(yed @ May 10 2025, 10:15 AM)
It’s discover that it’s not due to ccp airplane & missilr superiority. It’s because pakistan use saab airwacs which can detect enemy jet fighter from far.

India learned their lesson and shooting down pakistan awacs and 3 ccp plane already

Now the fight is same level..let’s see which are more superior
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i heard lahore also already being conquered now

they are going to declare total india victory liao
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they should have just had a dance-off at the wagah beating retreat to settle matters
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they want to involved china cakap la

 

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