Every time I cross over from Singapore to JB I feel JB is very run down. The JB sentral area is very overcrowded and chaotic. Traffic is a mess. Many other parts of JB are run down, many malls are dying or died, the buildings around are frequently run down, traffic is always bad at the city center. The newer places are quite nice but then the older parts are left to rot and not maintained. For such a large city, the public transport system is terrible, the bus are frequently in bad shape, no proper public bus terminal, just overall horrible.

I compare with other cities in Malaysia, KL, Penang, Ipoh, Melaka. I think they are in better shape than JB. JB just gives me that dark, gloomy, broken down, shady kind of feel. It seems like I'm stepping into Gotham city sometimes.

Is JB the worst city in Malaysia or did I miss out on another city in Malaysia which is worse?

This post has been edited by sinkiebaru: May 7 2025, 04:56 PM

Kota bharu doesn't even have a proper bus station lel

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Drive from Spore to JB and you see the difference. Walk across the causeway and you can feel the difference.

But not all is bad la. The night clubs and entertainment is JB is cheaper and ‘wilder’ than Spore la.

not that bad lh... still ok... jb ppl prefer this type...

As a Johorean, I have to admit, although JB not really the shittiest..but you can say top 10, or even top 5

jb is shady like you said, but causeway everyday singkie going to JB to spend. apa shady and gloomy

owai

A man of culture i see...

That's part and parcel of the seedy nature and feel of JB, no?

JB is boring, but definitely not the shittiest. You still have Kelantan Perlis Terengganu at the bottom pack.

Bandar Hantu aka Forest City, no compare?

They are old and run down, but do you feel unsafe there? JB feels both run down and unsafe.

JB has been mini Hatyai since the 90’s. And now can be mini Hatyai and Shenzen/Dongguan as well. 😬😬😬😬😬😬

Remember the late LKY once said JB is a dangerous/gangster city? How that statement created the hoohaa in JB and Malaysia. But still not as bad as Batam la. In Batam, if you go ulu area, can see them brandishing guns openly.

Shit in terms of what? Public transport? Roads? People? Environment? What?

Yes

2025 which state city that doesn't provide basic infra like internet, water, town, public transportation?

You got your answer lor

Before JB sentral was built is very bad. Now already not bad. But there other side of city square think it's call Merlin tower area still very bad.

This post has been edited by azack: May 7 2025, 04:55 PM

I agree. For a so called big city, no comprehensive public transportation. The soon to be completed RTS won’t solve anything. Where’s the metro system for JB? ART mana? Any plan for MRT/LRT?

sillyorean wannabe! kecian !

comparing just the major cities then yes

Shittiest is East coast la.

but somehow their food and drinks are way cheaper than jb, no thanks to singaporeans

u never see one place where they provide free coffee from their tap?

The JB now doesnt seem much different than 10 yrs ago when I work there.

Is a city that the people needs to have own transportation.

Is a city with planning for the riches not the masses.

Is a city the is unsafe and no one going to make it better.

indeed malaysia city really = 3rd world country.
can see SG even planting bonsai on the public road.. this is how rich they are.

But hor one problem, why are we charging SG so cheap for their water? not like they cant afford to pay also.

all coming soon!
in the pipeline
ART, RTS, ETS, LRT, BRT u name it, it will come
and once datang.....
JB will bustling away beyond Sg wa ckp u

Ya cheaper with air berwarna teh tarik

Oh ye. Sy lupe depa suke minuh ayak teh tarik

JB ppl go everywhere also wear chingay t shirt one..

Bahlols unity thread. I better belah.

you think JB is bad? try check Sibu.

you don't know how to enjoy in JB

lots of GRO clubs with pretty girls.

Jgn masuklah

this..... those PR or new citizens always think that they are more atas than malaysians.

jb not shitty because near sg
real shitty is penang. jam for nothing. nothing to do also.

come to iskandar puteri. probably the best place to stay in malaysia at the moment.

as a city its shit. as a town, JB very good

no MRT/LRT for such a busy place.

every bus must terminate at JB sentral, wanna go from east to west must go all the way to JB sentral interchange bus

If u compare Penang or KL

But if u compare KB / Miri then lain cite

city center i oso dunno where all the cars go coz the big mall next to border mcm dead and few people, most people crossing in/out to sinkie

JB not for humans live one

Dont know about shittiest but, JB city is a poorly planned city.

Actually, as a city, it is very small. Basically it is sandwiched between two unmovable stuff, the railroad and the palace. It cant grow beyond it naturally. So you end up with a lot of taman outside of the city proper.

Outside of the city proper, up to the diamater of 4 km on map, basically the buildings there are also very olds, basically, from the 70s and 80s. So the entire city is 50 years but without the benefit of development.

You want big development? need to ask majlis and also the biggest dog in the city first. not easy leh to grow that city.

Stay in Tier 1 city SG then suddenly come to Tier 3 city like JB you definitely feel the big difference

Good observation..

JB is akin to Hatyai.. good, bad, got people sleep on street, half-baked landscapes, dusty public bus..

Nothing great about JB.. If not for Singapore, even worse. Drivers also one kind of pattern

Penang (except the drivers), KL and PJ are the best

This post has been edited by -PuPu^ZaPruD3r-: May 7 2025, 06:20 PM

Penang, delicious food. Can jalan jalan makan makan everywhere

JB... even their best food is mediocre...

Not compare with SG....compare with other cities in Malaysia.

Well you started off your statement using Singapore naturally people will think like that

I personally felt Melaka is worse because of traffic

long time no go SG dy......last time crossed SG JB border sure notice our old/middle aged fat belly polis/kastam sitting on chair with teh ikat tepi hanging compare to SG young fit officer standing on duty...... LOL

Wong Ah Fook is mostly owned by one company/gang. They own the shoplots that look like shit or otherwise use them for vice activities or money laundering. Just look at Meldrum at next door. Ayam and Type Mabuk central. Every other week got ambulance just slow cruising to pick up some black retard off the streets. Ibrahim International () Business District konon. Only international thing about is the variety of ayams.

This post has been edited by red streak: May 7 2025, 08:21 PM

still boring

This guy for sure dint explore the whole jb yet.

Is there anything really good to visit in JB as a tourist?

same like kl. nothing much also what except malls.

still got klang...

If you take out food and malls, then really nothing much to visit.

Well at least JB roads have lines and less flyover-ception like the soon to be dystopian KL.

Yes

Penang is overrated. Please don't come. JB, KL better.

Same as KL/Selangor. Except maybe they are closer to Genting…..😂😂😂😂😂😂

not Klang meh?

I tot Klang not for human live one

thats why i didnt hesitate to move back to JB from KL last time.

Sure, in KL, you got more malls and places to run to, but it become muak after a few times.

What matter where you stay or visit is the people and culture.

KL valley people is most sophisticated compared to the rest. So there is a lot of happening there e.g. events.

Next on this level is actually Penang ppl. Then only Greater Johor area ppl. But even Greater Johor ppl now got so many ppl outstation too.

I thought of Klang too, unfortunately not too familiar with Klang. Anyone can comment on whether Klang is better or worse than JB?

my wife is penangite.

everytime say penang happening, but go back only see jam.

food is good on standard but the rest is just malls and temples.

How to compare ? Even sgd is 3 times better, but konlan7firm foods here better and cheaper.

AHA! Spotted a Penangite long-suffering from jams, crowds of gawking tourists, falling quality of foods and ever-increasing prices.

Let me help u protek. Please don't go Penang...Ipoh KL and JB are better.

BTW I'll be revisiting Georgetown later this year

Including Northern states? You sure or not?

This post has been edited by Chowda: May 8 2025, 09:08 AM

Frankly speaking, if you want consider JB night life, it is definitely a city of culture to, compared to e.g. Kota Bahru? lol.

One man’s meat, another man’s poison, I suppose. Happiness is everywhere. You just need to find one that suit your family and you. 👍

JB and Johor as a whole, I think got one thing that win all other City, there are less religious extremist there, if got any, the law deals with them pretty fast. Then all those religious pensyarah if they want to give ceramah in any religous places, their topic and content must be vet thru by the respective religious council. If batu api,,,will be dealt with.

As for infrastructure, I think JB and Johor has been neglect by the Mahathir administration and then other Umno lead administration, only in recent 10 years where we start to see proper planning from competent people and lead by our Sultan.

JB is just SG worker quarters

what about in terms of quality of ahmoi and awek? JB rank number what?

No parks or interesting museums? Forest City beach not worth it?

This post has been edited by HikayatSalju: May 8 2025, 09:39 AM

Do you know how much Johor benefit from this arrangement?

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...deputy-minister

You want to offend Johor?

This post has been edited by ja836kyau: May 8 2025, 09:56 AM

I wonder which died down malls this dungu going to, when you got other options like paradigm/southkey, etc.

and parent keep telling kid to work in sg and 354 days travel back and forth jb to sg , 4am to 12am, with health on the line for the sake of retirement put 1.5mil in EPF

My first impression to SG industrial zone is very compact. Feel suppressed

Then KL (federal highway) and Penang (roundabout) traffic jam is kind of waste time

Thus decided JB is the best. Spacious and traffic not really major issue. So is it about individual preference.

Jgn masuk then. Sinkie baru just diam-diam sit ur ass down in Singapore.

not to say JB is shiat but nothing to shout about, this goes to penang as well

overrated especially the foods

but their drivers are really something else

Are you saying as long Johore benefits from this agreement, Malaysia doesnt need to adjust the pricing ?

but hor the rakyat malaysia time to time kena water repricing but singapore as foreigner country doesnt to, wow ????

With that silly pricing, federal should just fund the water treatment ourself and sell it to DC is much more profitable.

Being next to SG is good enuf for JB to be better than others. With RTS & JSSEZ it can only get better n better. The coming decades will belong to JB n it will attract people from other states. Many hardworking people became millionaire by just working in SG. It is not easy to redevelop the old city centre but Iskandar Puteri is turning out well.

Was always thought Johor as a whole is least conservative state one in all of peninsula until the tampar the budak cina of no puasa case.... 😂. Well I think time has changed.

price also turn out to be very well

JB Center is bad due to the road works. Will get worst before it gets better.

Too many run down buildings, cannot tear down due to legal ownership unless gov force take over.

Maybe in a next 2-3 years will have improvement but for now is probably as bad as it gets.

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how about kuantan?

Only malls worth going are MidValley SouthKey, Paradigm Mall, Tebrau City, Toppen, City Square and Aeon Nusa Jaya. Honorable mention to Plaza Pelangi and Holiday Plaza because i am sentimental.

Other malls are mehhhhh.

Kasii chance la. Orang baru dapat PR. Thought like a level up against malaysian liao.

City vs town

Kucing no fault in this.

Its the state and federal government that failed to develop/modernize JB.

The action taken againts the pakcik fast or not? If happen at other states,,,,,swept below the carpet

One single individual pak cik tampar, suddenly whole state labelled as conservative 🤦‍♂️

If u include Sabah/sarawak cities, JB is considered ok.
Though still shitty

Since so many millionaires u see they r willing to SPEND, esp eating out. U will see many Alphard n MPV around. Many new property launching >1 million r snapped up within days if not hours. Some land prices have multiplied within the last couple of years esp after data centre getting hot. Pity those who can't cope with d higher cost of living.

one of the worst

shit people, shit place

full of PRC scammers

Museums = ada. But I dont see it as some places you will go repeatly.

Parks = nature parks are not as good as the klang valley. They are a few for recreations but nothing special. Forest city beach is not different from desaru except you wont dare to jump into sea by Forest CIty beach. You might like those place like the blue lake but it is for photo purpose usually you go. Unless you enjoy the walk across forest.

This post has been edited by Blackscreamerz: May 8 2025, 01:51 PM

all the prices are x3. even bukit indah so expensive.

now tampung tayar rm10

JB is a messy and poorly planned city. The city also feels like it caters to Singaporeans more than Malaysians.

Soon mrt starting in 2yrs+ time,lagi ramai Sgpr masuk.

Yesterday jb custom near polis station super jam....

Some one said it will block after 6pn some friday

Only malls worth visiting are

MidValley SouthKey,
Paradigm Mall JB,
Aeon Tebrau City,
Toppen,
City Square,
and
Aeon Bukit Indah.

Plaza Pelangi and Holiday Plaza



Actually Sutera Mall also quite nice.

Many parking spaces..

And free parking also

Pacific mall JB going to open in 2 years.


SKS take over

1st sheraton hotel jb also at there.

Statement	Meaning
"JB is just SG worker quarters"	Johor Bahru feels like a place mainly for people who work in Singapore
SG = Singapore	Refers to people working across the causeway
Worker quarters = dorm or home	Suggests JB is where workers live/rest, not a city for its own sake
Why people live in JB	Lower cost of living, cheaper rent and housing
Daily cross-border commute	Many travel from JB to SG every day for work
Tone of statement	Slightly sarcastic or critical