Remains unconfirmed but doesnt look good on the Rafale fighter if true..

https://www.samaa.tv/2087333026-rafale-make...s-5-indian-jets

Blame the plane when it's pilot and military leadership error?

Such an expensive 4th gen or 5th gen Fighter
So quickly already shot down.

How to sell if so easy to shoot down.

PSA: Don't buy French hardware

We kena from submarine last time.
We kena again with LCS.

300mil each

Looks like french willl boikot selling their planes to bharat because pilots noobs dono how to operate

Waiting for more credible sos

But definitely don't underestimate China made product

The much-mocked JF-17 turns out to be OP ?

the most advanced aircraft cant save itself from a shitty pilot lol

so now murica can sell India new hardware, full string attached, modi will be a puppet for pope Trump

India buy weapons and radar from different countries unable to integrate the system. Paki buy all from CCP can integrate flawlessly.

No USA aircraft carrier group coming to modi bjp rescue ? Keksian bjp kiss wrong ass.

Pilot or aircraft problem?

Macam rojak. Looks like india should stop and assess their own failure

🤭

This post has been edited by jojolicia: May 7 2025, 02:32 PM

But but but Msian sub can go underwater and LCS is so stealth that nobody can detect it!

What happened to Tejas?

Don’t have strike bomb ability kut

This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: May 7 2025, 02:34 PM

soon france + india vs pakistan

Good question, looks like they dont trust their own planes lol

Tejas is so good so top secret bjp modi plan to use it to attack China only

/S

Plane radar kena jam, kena jam means it is blinded and unable to detect missile and plane

China 1 - 0 France

Both sides engage in propaganda.

Fighters are all equipped with video (gun & missile) which can tape all encounters. All they need to do is release the engagement video to confirm losses.

Otherwise, the only confirmation that should be accepted is where the opposing pilot can be produced eg Balakot or the remains which show serials can be identified. Even photos of crashed plane can be faked eg they use pics from past crashes, not current.

It should be noted that in all Pak-Indian engagements, both sides will always counter-claim.

Salty.

kakaka......aging F-15 still master race never been shot down

wiki says: Overall, the Dassault Rafale is regarded as one of the most capable multirole fighters in the world, combining advanced technology, versatility, and proven performance. Its ability to adapt to various mission profiles makes it a valuable asset for any air force.15 Jun 2017

mcm Msia. Rojak planes. I suka I beli.

I dono who in indian ministry buying rojak but dono how to use, or train.

Not even tested, wanna attack pakistan. Kan dah kena malu lol

It's a stealthy plane, just like our stealthy jet engine.

internal avionics matters

that so called 'cheap' 2nd tier jet sport a AESA radar and can fire PL-15,a missile with AESA radar seeker.
even the US is still trying catching up with their new AIM260

Tejas is indeed very good that's why China forced to develop 6th gen fighters. Cos the current J20 can't cope.

/S

On paper, Rafale is very capable with low-RCS design, Meteor and Spectra EW.

If true, three are shot down, it's quite surprising.

Perancis is the Bharat of EU.

- Sembang kencang but cowards so surrender cepat
- Pretentiously & snobbish claiming themselves as 'cultured'
- Horny & proud mi amor
- Protest kuat sarahan orang lain

A German joke I heard over while studying in Germany:
"Gott schütze uns vor Sturm und Wind, und Autos die aus Frankreich sind!" ("May god protect us from storm and wind, and cars made in france"). Looking at you Peugeot and Citroen.

Amazing mathematicians though.

Lots of misinfo out there.

I've read an account that India used stand off weapons. They have Israeli and French bombs like Hammer/SCALP that can hit targets 70-250km from launch. The whole of Pakistani occupied Kashmir is only 270km from Afghan border to Indian-held Kashmir border.

So India doesn't really need to enter Pakistani airspace to launch missiles/stand off weaponry. Pakistan is not likely to engage incoming airplanes that haven't entered their airspace so the likelihood of actual air combat is very likely minimal.

It is possible that Pakistani air force had engaged the launched weapons instead and down a few, especially since many of those are sub-sonic ie slow which may have resulted in the inflated claims of shootdowns.

Considering the state of India's air force, they are unlikely to want to repeat Balakot and a stand off strategy is a safer option.

Now waiting to see how Pakistan responds.

Shot down with what? Air-to-air? Or Ground-to-Air?

edit: Samaa is a Pakistani media outlet, just FYI.

This post has been edited by ray123: May 7 2025, 02:59 PM

what does bharat mean?

dun forget renault and bugatti

kuat marketing only when want sell their jet

like say rafale was battle tested, when the opponents are 3rd world libya and mali

I don't think there will be any video evidence. Nowadays, they probably shoot from far away based on radar only

It's not WW2 or even Vietnam war anymore where you got dogfight

Bharat is derived from the name of the Vedic community Bharatas

That is what India like to call themselves today

rafale is no match for j-10c . it is the harsh truth. military insiders know . modi did not .modi should know now.

This post has been edited by issac99289928: May 7 2025, 03:13 PM

F-15 record is 151-0
but they didnt tell you those F-15 are supported by AWACS and electronic jamming aircraft against export model russian jets with zero support

Soalan paling penting....

Have they finished paying for the plane?
If not, can use excuse and just say "It's a useless plane. Cannot even avoid missiles" and stop paying. "Go tarik balik the plane yourself"

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: May 7 2025, 03:16 PM

Bang, cuba la baca betul2 news..

Pakistan already claim all aircrafts that being shoot down are in India airspace. Most probably after Rafale launch missile (from India Airspace), they never enter Pakistan..
There are confirm report & picture that rafale crash. (That's why Dassault stock price crash)....

This post has been edited by khusyairi: May 7 2025, 03:30 PM

More like proxy war for me, right after JD Vance visit India and India has balls to do all this provocation, Pakistan military mostly purchase from China with downgrade version and it is likely the US ask India to test China plane capabilities.

Bharat supporter refuse to acknowledge the fact

Huh ? Why salah US pulak when the trigger of this war is the terror attack in the kashmiri region ?
Everything blame US. Trump said let them fight

Nope

It's because J-10C is too powerful

Well bro, at least your mom think you're pretty.

u are just naive thinking that India go probok Pakistan at this timing without big brother supporting at the back

aah what a messy world we live in

Nothing to do with USA. Trump dont care to join.

Both (India & Pakistan) more friendly toward Russia & China (which basically USA enemy).
Ask any Indian or Chinese citizen; high chance also they support Russia instead of Ukraine (NATO)..

Economically India belong to BRICS. At same time, Pakistan also applied to join BRICS..
Not really under USA influence..

This post has been edited by khusyairi: May 7 2025, 03:54 PM

Pakistan is pro China and US, but India is pro US and hate China.

What Trump want is to test the capabilities of China figher jet, u look left and right, only Pakistan has the most China fighter jet in the world.

Dont forget their car too
Malaysian many kena, Peugeot, Citroen

Anyway, what about submarine?

"Its the Pilot, not the Plane", "Dont Think Just Do" - Tom Cruise

Thats billion goes down the drain...in just 1 week

Dont Think just die . it is the plane and the pilot is just hopeless.

no time to think . the missile travels at mach 5 and hit the plane.

This post has been edited by issac99289928: May 7 2025, 04:07 PM

Trump already said let them fight, he will not join. But He hope it will end quickly.

In theory, he also dont want Pakistan to fight as there are significant number of F16 plane in their inventory. If it being shoot down by India, S-400. Lockheed stock price go down... Bad news for USA..
It will be a boost for Putin..

At same time (b4 this attack), he hope USA can supply more weapon to India & Pakistan (reduce Russia influence)...

This post has been edited by khusyairi: May 7 2025, 04:09 PM

oic

151 missions for f-15 seems low

There is still no footage to confirm.

Claim whatever you can.

Tak nak sambung bayar and kluar pattern la tu.

151 jets shot down

meanwhile.....who is telling the truth?

BharatLand vs PakisLand....FIGHT!!

modi yelling at air force general 'why did you redeem the rafale'

french planes downed . russian plane downed . lucky for the US planes not airborne yet . would face the fate as the french and russian ones.

all these while got 'peace' then suddenly after JDV visit got 'terrorist' attack.

Good question..modi probably will not pay lol

When Bharat air crashes happen in peacetime, their news media will be all over it, full pics & coverage.

The so-called coverage on this strike = no indication of locations etc. The only location cited "Bhatinda" has been clarified to be pics from past crash, not current.

So far nothing firm to indicate losses on either side.

US planes "drop" into sea

US planes "drop" into sea ....Twice.

That story is real.

So? China stronk!?!?! Habisla Mesia Pinoy and Taiwan.

Janji they buy our durians and soon, AI chips,







This post has been edited by headache: May 7 2025, 04:47 PM

the thing most people all forgot that if you fly planes over contested air space with PROPER air defenses, its gonna get fucked hard regardless which manufacturer and military

Kashmir only 270km. IAF no need to go into Pakistani airspace to hit targets.

There is no indication of airspace violations. Strikes seem to be launched from within Indian air space.

P.s. PAF can also do the same in return.

fuuu... this means CCP HQ air defense is powder

ask madani buy few biji la

AMDK will say China's equipment got cheat code lah

Jf 17 is china punya export version lol

Ghost of Kiev Ukraine mari help Paki ka?

This post has been edited by NataM: May 7 2025, 05:12 PM

I think Pakistan also have some J10CE.. Not sure qty...

Rumour said F16 are restricted by US in this case.. Not sure how true is this...

MY already bought the CCP FN-6 manpads







another angle if people say its AI

Indian authorities tight-lipped over Bathinda crash.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/chand...6583826798.html

Noted that several Indian news sources have confirmed the crash.

One more crash at Pampore, Kashmir reported by BBC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cvg7gdpqr92o

This post has been edited by takbodoh722: May 7 2025, 05:42 PM

malu besar

J&K local govt sources confirmed to reuters that 3 fighters crashed.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/...say-2025-05-07/

User problem 100%

Maybe Trump already call Modi not to use US made jets.

India doesn't have US fighter jets though. Pakistan have them though.

Awani : 5 Jet fighters shot down

Pakistani claims appear to be:

Rafale down by HQ-9 at Pampore.
Su-30 down by JF17C/PL-15 at Akhnoor
Rafale down by J-10C/PL-15 at Bhatinda
Mig-29 down by JF17C/PL-15 at Ramban
Jaguar down by ?/PL-15 at Punjab border

So far only Bhatinda claims are persuasive. Likely aircraft down at Pampore but type unknown.

India has locked down its media (a sign that there were several losses).

Err terrorist in kashimir is sponsor by who?

You belip or not if people tell you cia sponsor them?

If not belip, then end of story

If you belip, then next question is what benefits usa get india vs pakistan

Now think back , usa trying to stir taiwan vs china, not working. They trying stir philippines vs china, not working
....
....
...
Trade war...
Usa citizen angry, but debt of 1.3 trillion still need to be settle, and weapons no one buying.

PL-15 the superstar in this war . it has no-escape zone of 200 km . when the enemy jet is in the zone , it is game over.

This post has been edited by issac99289928: May 7 2025, 06:52 PM

If you have info that can be evidence or even political commentary from experts respectsble stature, pls share.
Else its just your fan fiction.

+ another 2 drones.

Cmon India, send more!!!!!

Kek..first day attack 3 d down... 🤣

bharat said their jets didnt venture into paki airspace so no shot down kek
the PL-15 got range like 200-300KM and can fire deep into bharat territory hence their jets crash into their own land

Google al qaeda? Or google who created and sponsor al-qaeda?

Sept 11 case is declassified, the information is made publics if you not yet born back in 2011.

If you still not belip, its end of story di. I wont respond further.

This post has been edited by wanted111who: May 7 2025, 07:05 PM

huh what? india got US made jets????

I dunno just simply say only

cia funded al qaeda in the 80s = funding them to infinity time including now? iinm china is now pakistan biggest arms supplier. in early 80s pakistan and US still baek baek.

I dunno, i not work for cia. But if i am cia. Just if,

Al qaeda is handy tools to let go, too handy.