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post May 7 2025, 07:32 AM, updated 8 months ago

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https://www.avsforum.com/threads/harman-buy...dustry.3324912/

Masimo has announced that it's selling its Sound United division to HARMAN International for $350 million. The deal, still subject to regulatory approval, is expected to close by the end of 2025.

For anyone unfamiliar, Sound United is the umbrella that holds several well-known audio brands, including Denon, Marantz, and Bowers & Wilkins. HARMAN, a subsidiary of Samsung and already owns brands like JBL, AKG, Harman Kardon, and Mark Levinson.

inb4 Samsung > all
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post May 7 2025, 07:38 AM

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Hifi is sunset industry
Thus the 350 M valuation

Inb4 Chi-Fi (china hi-fi) market disruptor
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china can do it better and cheaper
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post May 7 2025, 07:52 AM

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Samsung have the best soundbar yooo...
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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 07:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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what china eq similar to Dirac?
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post May 7 2025, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 07:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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cheaper yes, better?...don't think so yet

headphone today i still stick to reputable brand like sony, superlux
they just sound different
i do have chinese brand earbuds but do they sound as good?....not there yet
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 08:12 AM)
cheaper yes, better?...don't think so yet

headphone today i still stick to reputable brand like sony, superlux
they just sound different
i do have chinese brand earbuds but do they sound as good?....not there yet
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The best thing I can say about china earpongs is that

Last time I bought a soundpeats...china brand, had some electric sound after a few days then contacted them on shitpee

They were helpful and helped me diagnose but to no avail. Then they told me to add rm1 then sent me a replacement. I even asked if I need to ship this one back but they dun lol. Then the staticky sound went away and I got my replacement...so I bought 2 for a price of one... technically
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QUOTE(FappyBird @ May 7 2025, 08:20 AM)
The best thing I can say about china earpongs is that

Last time I bought a soundpeats...china brand, had some electric sound after a few days then contacted them on shitpee

They were helpful and helped me diagnose but to no avail. Then they told me to add rm1 then sent me a replacement. I even asked if I need to ship this one back but they dun lol. Then the staticky sound went away and I got my replacement...so I bought 2 for a price of one... technically
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the lenovo earbuds i bought also the same thing
use like few times, it won't work anymore
contacted their page, they just refund me fully without asking any question, without even requiring me to send it back
thn went to other brands like edifier, QCY....quality better, sound wise it's passable but it won't beat my superlux or sony headphones...those headphones are on another different level
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post May 7 2025, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 08:12 AM)
cheaper yes, better?...don't think so yet

headphone today i still stick to reputable brand like sony, superlux
they just sound different
i do have chinese brand earbuds but do they sound as good?....not there yet
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baik beli xiomi
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post May 7 2025, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 08:12 AM)
cheaper yes, better?...don't think so yet

headphone today i still stick to reputable brand like sony, superlux
they just sound different
i do have chinese brand earbuds but do they sound as good?....not there yet
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sony outside of their studio monitors, all tuned for bass, damn headache to listen to
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ May 7 2025, 08:37 AM)
sony outside of their studio monitors, all tuned for bass, damn headache to listen to
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depending on which, they do let you tune it
until today their XM headphone is still the best one i've listened to for it's price
now i'm using CH-720N, still great when i listen to it....those china headphone just cannot compare yet

like i always say, they wanna copy the design and the outer shell but they just can't copy the sound profile without proper hardware
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QUOTE(FappyBird @ May 7 2025, 08:20 AM)
The best thing I can say about china earpongs is that

Last time I bought a soundpeats...china brand, had some electric sound after a few days then contacted them on shitpee

They were helpful and helped me diagnose but to no avail. Then they told me to add rm1 then sent me a replacement. I even asked if I need to ship this one back but they dun lol. Then the staticky sound went away and I got my replacement...so I bought 2 for a price of one... technically
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Had a client who is electrical engineer worked in Japan for few years. According to him china electronics somehow will always have the electronic pitching sound. Only Japan and US can make it without sound. Thats why audiophile stuff expensive because of those parts making it high cost.
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ May 7 2025, 07:47 AM)
Masimo?
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post May 7 2025, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 7 2025, 08:57 AM)
Had a client who is electrical engineer worked in Japan for few years. According to him china electronics somehow will always have the electronic pitching sound. Only Japan and US can make it without sound. Thats why audiophile stuff expensive because of those parts making it high cost.
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so many budget chinese brands don't have whatever pitching electronic noise. almost all budget to mid level hifi is made in china.

your client got ears or not?

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 08:54 AM)
depending on which, they do let you tune it
until today their XM headphone is still the best one i've listened to for it's price
now i'm using CH-720N, still great when i listen to it....those china headphone just cannot compare yet

like i always say, they wanna copy the design and the outer shell but they just can't copy the sound profile without proper hardware
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I have the XM3 for many yrs.

The sound quality is good. But the bass is a bit soft.
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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 07:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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I thought China only knows quantity but not quality.
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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 06:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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only if the product can withstand the test of time… and this is something, even china has to be patient..
eg watches… china has been producing excellent quality watches for decades…one of the top brand is seagull… goes back a long way, with some achievements and with quality… however little is known in the real world..
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QUOTE(eyerule @ May 7 2025, 09:07 AM)
so many budget chinese brands don't have whatever pitching electronic noise. almost all budget to mid level hifi is made in china.

your client got ears or not?
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because the pitching noise is like trump.
everytime they see any speaker made in china, they will come and tariff them.
No need fact, just refer country of origin.
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QUOTE(ozak @ May 7 2025, 09:17 AM)
I have the XM3 for many yrs.

The sound quality is good. But the bass is a bit soft.
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It seems XM2-5 have different profiles
So far I heard 4 is the best
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 08:29 AM)
the lenovo earbuds i bought also the same thing
use like few times, it won't work anymore
contacted their page, they just refund me fully without asking any question, without even requiring me to send it back
thn went to other brands like edifier, QCY....quality better, sound wise it's passable but it won't beat my superlux or sony headphones...those headphones are on another different level
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I have an xm3 earpong and it's actually really good anc also good. But sadly it's battery got issue already one side always die early.

But imo, it's quite bassy...I prefer something more neutral
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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 07:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 7 2025, 08:57 AM)
Had a client who is electrical engineer worked in Japan for few years. According to him china electronics somehow will always have the electronic pitching sound. Only Japan and US can make it without sound. Thats why audiophile stuff expensive because of those parts making it high cost.
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The sound gone already...and never encountered it since. Not even on the new one
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 08:29 AM)
the lenovo earbuds i bought also the same thing
use like few times, it won't work anymore
contacted their page, they just refund me fully without asking any question, without even requiring me to send it back
thn went to other brands like edifier, QCY....quality better, sound wise it's passable but it won't beat my superlux or sony headphones...those headphones are on another different level
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thought u wanna compare sony with fiio, hifiman, moondrop. see see go compare with edifier and wht the hell is qcy?

lol.
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QUOTE(iandope @ May 7 2025, 10:06 AM)
thought u wanna compare sony with fiio, hifiman, moondrop. see see go compare with edifier and wht the hell is qcy?

lol.
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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 08:34 AM)
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 7 2025, 08:57 AM)
Had a client who is electrical engineer worked in Japan for few years. According to him china electronics somehow will always have the electronic pitching sound. Only Japan and US can make it without sound. Thats why audiophile stuff expensive because of those parts making it high cost.
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what is pitching sound?

never heard of this term before in hifi.... lol


check out hifiman, fiio, shanling, etc to name a few of the high end audio. there are tons of products not exported out and we have not heard of them

https://hifiman.com/#1
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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 07:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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What brand bookshelf speaker recommended?

I know got many but i think you know better
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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 09:29 AM)
because the pitching noise is like trump.
everytime they see any speaker made in china, they will come and tariff them.
No need fact, just refer country of origin.
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so you buy speakers based on country?
I hate how speaker seller says this speaker is made in country xxx.
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QUOTE(iandope @ May 7 2025, 10:06 AM)
thought u wanna compare sony with fiio, hifiman, moondrop. see see go compare with edifier and wht the hell is qcy?

lol.
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proves that the price gap does have a sound different

how much are the one u just listed?

that's like saying RM150 vs RM400-800 vs over RM1k
there will be difference but it all depends how much u spend....a RM100-150 will never have the sound profile of a RM400 ones
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 09:43 AM)
It seems XM2-5 have different profiles
So far I heard 4 is the best
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Xm3 with me for 6yrs. Battery still good and long hr.

But the ear pad already change twice. Don't buy those lousy China ear pad. Can't even last 1/2 yrs.

Next I would like to try the Bose series or XM5 or Sennheiser Momentum?
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QUOTE(ozak @ May 7 2025, 10:48 AM)
Xm3 with me for 6yrs. Battery still good and long hr.

But the ear pad already change twice. Don't buy those lousy China ear pad. Can't even last 1/2 yrs.

Next I would like to try the Bose series or XM5 or Sennheiser Momentum?
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i think XM4 is better than XM5
and i saw on used market, XM4 is holding it's value better than XM5...maybe that's an indication
but that's just me after hearing it

XM5 has better call function
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previously yamaha av left malatsia, now this? damn sad.
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 7 2025, 10:42 AM)
What brand bookshelf speaker recommended?

I know got many but i think you know better
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I tried Edifier S3000 Pro before and it is worth the money if bought at 2K during promotion and better than most generic brands (Samsung, Sony, Philips etc) at a similar price, plenty of reviewers praise it as well.

I have switched to Hivi H8 (a different color version of M5A) that I bought through TaoBao which cost me RM 4K all in. A leap upgrade from S3000 Pro and personally I think it is better than my father-in-law's Bowers & Wilkins 607 S2 that I hear often.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 7 2025, 07:32 AM)
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/harman-buy...dustry.3324912/

Masimo has announced that it's selling its Sound United division to HARMAN International for $350 million. The deal, still subject to regulatory approval, is expected to close by the end of 2025.

For anyone unfamiliar, Sound United is the umbrella that holds several well-known audio brands, including Denon, Marantz, and Bowers & Wilkins. HARMAN, a subsidiary of Samsung and already owns brands like JBL, AKG, Harman Kardon, and Mark Levinson.

inb4 Samsung > all
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wtf do they need so many sound brands?
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 7 2025, 10:42 AM)
What brand bookshelf speaker recommended?

I know got many but i think you know better
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bookshelf speakers our malaysia also got.

Acoustic Energy British brand but Malaysian made.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100080724612758#

else can consider audioengine, us brand but also made in china.

https://audioengine.com/
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 10:46 AM)
proves that the price gap does have a sound different

how much are the one u just listed?

that's like saying RM150 vs RM400-800 vs over RM1k
there will be difference but it all depends how much u spend....a RM100-150 will never have the sound profile of a RM400 ones
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keep talking about xm4 but suddenly said to compare rm150 headphones to rm400-800.


https://www.sony.com.my/electronics/headban...ones/wh-1000xm4

XM4 is RM1600 in official website. whistling.gif

i am comparing the XM4 that you keep praising to those ive listed.

give me the RM150 sony model, i can easily tapau with my below rm100 KZ iem.
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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 07:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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recommend me good and cheap hifi speakers ples tongue.gif
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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 07:44 AM)
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which china brand are we talking with?
many i see use class-d design that is crap to my ear. meanwhile the like of marantz use their own proprietary discrete output stage (hdam module) that make it sound good.
you can change amplifier section to class-d solution for efficiency and extra volume, but they need to make sure the output stage end is good.
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ May 7 2025, 11:13 AM)
wtf do they need so many sound brands?
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HIFI market is a huge rabbit hole.
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 7 2025, 08:57 AM)
Had a client who is electrical engineer worked in Japan for few years. According to him china electronics somehow will always have the electronic pitching sound. Only Japan and US can make it without sound. Thats why audiophile stuff expensive because of those parts making it high cost.
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That electrical engineer speaks BS
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 7 2025, 10:42 AM)
What brand bookshelf speaker recommended?

I know got many but i think you know better
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boughted edifier mr4 directly from taobao for <RM300 total after shipping
not bad
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QUOTE(iandope @ May 7 2025, 12:46 PM)
bookshelf speakers our malaysia also got.

Acoustic Energy British brand but Malaysian made.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100080724612758#

else can consider audioengine, us brand but also made in china.

https://audioengine.com/
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no more owned by malaysia already. sold back to the british already
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QUOTE(eyerule @ May 7 2025, 10:16 PM)
no more owned by malaysia already. sold back to the british already
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yup moved back to cosworth but used AEs are cheap and good. i currently owned 1.

 

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