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post May 7 2025, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 06:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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only if the product can withstand the test of time… and this is something, even china has to be patient..
eg watches… china has been producing excellent quality watches for decades…one of the top brand is seagull… goes back a long way, with some achievements and with quality… however little is known in the real world..
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post May 7 2025, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ May 7 2025, 09:07 AM)
so many budget chinese brands don't have whatever pitching electronic noise. almost all budget to mid level hifi is made in china.

your client got ears or not?
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because the pitching noise is like trump.
everytime they see any speaker made in china, they will come and tariff them.
No need fact, just refer country of origin.
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post May 7 2025, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 7 2025, 09:17 AM)
I have the XM3 for many yrs.

The sound quality is good. But the bass is a bit soft.
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It seems XM2-5 have different profiles
So far I heard 4 is the best
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post May 7 2025, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 08:29 AM)
the lenovo earbuds i bought also the same thing
use like few times, it won't work anymore
contacted their page, they just refund me fully without asking any question, without even requiring me to send it back
thn went to other brands like edifier, QCY....quality better, sound wise it's passable but it won't beat my superlux or sony headphones...those headphones are on another different level
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I have an xm3 earpong and it's actually really good anc also good. But sadly it's battery got issue already one side always die early.

But imo, it's quite bassy...I prefer something more neutral
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post May 7 2025, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 07:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 7 2025, 08:57 AM)
Had a client who is electrical engineer worked in Japan for few years. According to him china electronics somehow will always have the electronic pitching sound. Only Japan and US can make it without sound. Thats why audiophile stuff expensive because of those parts making it high cost.
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The sound gone already...and never encountered it since. Not even on the new one
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post May 7 2025, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 08:29 AM)
the lenovo earbuds i bought also the same thing
use like few times, it won't work anymore
contacted their page, they just refund me fully without asking any question, without even requiring me to send it back
thn went to other brands like edifier, QCY....quality better, sound wise it's passable but it won't beat my superlux or sony headphones...those headphones are on another different level
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thought u wanna compare sony with fiio, hifiman, moondrop. see see go compare with edifier and wht the hell is qcy?

lol.
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post May 7 2025, 10:14 AM

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Marantz got produced top quality cd player. Always won in hifi reviews in the late 90s. I still got mine - a CD63 MkII KI Signature
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post May 7 2025, 10:24 AM

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Samsung is getting fucking everything, fuck samsung
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post May 7 2025, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(iandope @ May 7 2025, 10:06 AM)
thought u wanna compare sony with fiio, hifiman, moondrop. see see go compare with edifier and wht the hell is qcy?

lol.
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I lup my moondrop space travel, best rm100 spend
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post May 7 2025, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 08:34 AM)
baik beli xiomi
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My Xiaomi instant water boiler worked only 4 months and then kaput. My online seller auto AI reply said warranty for 3 years but when asked how to send back no reply doh.gif
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post May 7 2025, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ May 7 2025, 08:57 AM)
Had a client who is electrical engineer worked in Japan for few years. According to him china electronics somehow will always have the electronic pitching sound. Only Japan and US can make it without sound. Thats why audiophile stuff expensive because of those parts making it high cost.
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what is pitching sound?

never heard of this term before in hifi.... lol


check out hifiman, fiio, shanling, etc to name a few of the high end audio. there are tons of products not exported out and we have not heard of them

https://hifiman.com/#1
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post May 7 2025, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 07:44 AM)
china can do it better and cheaper
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What brand bookshelf speaker recommended?

I know got many but i think you know better
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post May 7 2025, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(68 others @ May 7 2025, 09:29 AM)
because the pitching noise is like trump.
everytime they see any speaker made in china, they will come and tariff them.
No need fact, just refer country of origin.
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so you buy speakers based on country?
I hate how speaker seller says this speaker is made in country xxx.
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post May 7 2025, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(iandope @ May 7 2025, 10:06 AM)
thought u wanna compare sony with fiio, hifiman, moondrop. see see go compare with edifier and wht the hell is qcy?

lol.
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proves that the price gap does have a sound different

how much are the one u just listed?

that's like saying RM150 vs RM400-800 vs over RM1k
there will be difference but it all depends how much u spend....a RM100-150 will never have the sound profile of a RM400 ones
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post May 7 2025, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 7 2025, 09:43 AM)
It seems XM2-5 have different profiles
So far I heard 4 is the best
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Xm3 with me for 6yrs. Battery still good and long hr.

But the ear pad already change twice. Don't buy those lousy China ear pad. Can't even last 1/2 yrs.

Next I would like to try the Bose series or XM5 or Sennheiser Momentum?
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QUOTE(ozak @ May 7 2025, 10:48 AM)
Xm3 with me for 6yrs. Battery still good and long hr.

But the ear pad already change twice. Don't buy those lousy China ear pad. Can't even last 1/2 yrs.

Next I would like to try the Bose series or XM5 or Sennheiser Momentum?
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i think XM4 is better than XM5
and i saw on used market, XM4 is holding it's value better than XM5...maybe that's an indication
but that's just me after hearing it

XM5 has better call function
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post May 7 2025, 11:00 AM

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previously yamaha av left malatsia, now this? damn sad.
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post May 7 2025, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 7 2025, 10:42 AM)
What brand bookshelf speaker recommended?

I know got many but i think you know better
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I tried Edifier S3000 Pro before and it is worth the money if bought at 2K during promotion and better than most generic brands (Samsung, Sony, Philips etc) at a similar price, plenty of reviewers praise it as well.

I have switched to Hivi H8 (a different color version of M5A) that I bought through TaoBao which cost me RM 4K all in. A leap upgrade from S3000 Pro and personally I think it is better than my father-in-law's Bowers & Wilkins 607 S2 that I hear often.
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post May 7 2025, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 7 2025, 07:32 AM)
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/harman-buy...dustry.3324912/

Masimo has announced that it's selling its Sound United division to HARMAN International for $350 million. The deal, still subject to regulatory approval, is expected to close by the end of 2025.

For anyone unfamiliar, Sound United is the umbrella that holds several well-known audio brands, including Denon, Marantz, and Bowers & Wilkins. HARMAN, a subsidiary of Samsung and already owns brands like JBL, AKG, Harman Kardon, and Mark Levinson.

inb4 Samsung > all
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wtf do they need so many sound brands?

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