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post May 6 2025, 09:21 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Unlike Saddam who is just crack Gaddafi unlike liwat seems to be a very intelligent man and took care of ALL his people not just his tribe but ALL of Libya . Unfortunately those ungrateful people betrayed him and was brainwash by US. I normally don't like most middle east things but this guy was a good man betrayed by his own.



Motherfackas like.Clinton and Obama protect US interest though it's bullshit and sacrificed him under false pretext.



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He wants to united all Africa and trade oil in others than dollars.

So the west decide he has to go
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi


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He's a psycho. He has Quran written in blood.
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 6 2025, 09:21 PM)
Unlike Saddam who is just crack Gaddafi unlike liwat seems to be a very intelligent man and took care of  ALL his people not just his tribe but ALL of Libya . Unfortunately those ungrateful people betrayed him and was brainwash by US. I normally don't like most middle east things but this guy was a good man betrayed by his own.
Another one coming Capt Ibrahim Traore
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QUOTE(estacado @ May 6 2025, 09:34 PM)
He's a psycho. He has Quran written in blood.
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He tackle homelessness
Poverty rate lower than Netherlands
Water project was good
Free education healthcare and electricity
Give free capital seed livestock for farming

Even Chinaman communist also healthcare like capitalist this guy was weird but he did look after people.

90 pc literacy rate while here we have people belip Zakar Naik and those newborn traitors as gods messenger and smartest creatures.
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QUOTE(SiakapRM1000 @ May 6 2025, 09:35 PM)
Another one coming Capt Ibrahim Traore
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He ok but nothing like Gaddafi 's intelligence and bravery. Ask liwat to talk like Gaddafi in UN no teleprompter facts and figures while bantai AMDK with big kotek liwat punya kotek will become like kuih peneram or sth.
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post May 6 2025, 09:49 PM

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ts u never heard of his personal harem? or choose to ignore it? lol, u know how he ordered his ppl to go kidnap attractive young girls then bring it to his personal harem and raped those poor girls then pass them around for his cronies then after that dump those girls at the roadside after they have 'used' up those girls
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post May 6 2025, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 6 2025, 09:49 PM)
ts u never heard of his personal harem? or choose to ignore it? lol, u know how he ordered his ppl to go kidnap attractive young girls then bring it to his personal harem and raped those poor girls then pass them around for his cronies then after that dump those girls at the roadside after they have 'used' up those girls
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That's what they say la but in totality he did look after his people. How can we trust any BS from media which may potentially frame him as rapist? We have some prominent figure child marriage lapist who got exposed few years back not saying lape is acceptable but unlike those useless figures I believe Gadaffi was framed in general.

He managed to.unite Libya because whole of middle east ideology is pure violence. He united them and made sure their needs were met and give them good life. Unlike Talibun wannabe country like Afghan Pakustan and some SEA aspirational Talibun wannabe countries.

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He wanted to end Fiat currency and challenge the petrodollar. To the west that is absolutely Haram.


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post May 6 2025, 09:59 PM

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The water project would have made Africa self sufficient food-wise. Can look it up. They were rich enough to afford it.
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 6 2025, 09:49 PM)
ts u never heard of his personal harem? or choose to ignore it? lol, u know how he ordered his ppl to go kidnap attractive young girls then bring it to his personal harem and raped those poor girls then pass them around for his cronies then after that dump those girls at the roadside after they have 'used' up those girls
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Ya ya ya.. according to CNN dan BBC he also suck blood whistling.gif
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 6 2025, 09:21 PM)
Unlike Saddam who is just crack Gaddafi unlike liwat seems to be a very intelligent man and took care of  ALL his people not just his tribe but ALL of Libya . Unfortunately those ungrateful people betrayed him and was brainwash by US. I normally don't like most middle east things but this guy was a good man betrayed by his own.



Motherfackas like.Clinton and Obama protect US interest though it's bullshit and sacrificed him under false pretext.


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Western don't like any countries become independent from US banking system and dollar, they prefer extremist kind of radical to takeover the Africa or Middle East countries than moderate view kind of people like Gaddafi.

Also Gaddafi exposed too many secrets to the world, for that they make example of him, they rape him, beat him and decapitate him in front of camera as warning to everyone.

U.S typical modus operandi:

QUOTE(smsid @ Mar 1 2025, 01:32 PM)
Lol, it has been for decades US modus operandi, only you didn't realize it.

1. U.S. disrupts the nation harmony first by spreading misleading propaganda for many years.

2. Once the nation government reacts to quell the population dissidents due to misleading propaganda, the mainstream media reports them as government oppressing their own people.

3. Then US the savior, intervene by sanction, blocking trades, and frozen the country assets.

4. Then the country became much worse and volatile due to limited items on the supermarket due to US sanctions, so the whole situation escalate much worse and people started killing each other, etc.

5. US then help the group that they want to install as puppet, by providing them with weapons.

6. If the US favored rebel group failed, use mainstream media to show the brutal onslaught of the rebel group as "civilians".

7. Here comes "democracy" and "freedom" on its way.
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post May 6 2025, 10:35 PM

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His fellow Arab leaders did not want to support him, all sold out.
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QUOTE(estacado @ May 6 2025, 09:34 PM)
He's a psycho. He has Quran written in blood.
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Wasn't that Saddam?
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post May 6 2025, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(seriosekitt3h @ May 6 2025, 10:42 PM)
Wasn't that Saddam?
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They better then telolism Bawang and liwat both useless faks one fella imagine to become telolist the other chameleon want Erdogen to ram his bekside.
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just move on ts

he is fukking dead
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ May 6 2025, 10:54 PM)
just move on ts

he is fukking dead
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You will be fukking dead some day, and no one will remember you.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ May 6 2025, 10:54 PM)
just move on ts

he is fukking dead
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Dead yes but still he is good leader 90 pc population literate while here barely 20 pc can pass add maths. Which u think more useful in future. Rejeki where kotek pancut because holy man say rejeki but child bodoh or a literate and educated society.
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 6 2025, 09:53 PM)
That's what they say la but in totality he did look after his people. How can we trust any BS from media which may potentially frame him as rapist? We have some prominent figure child marriage lapist who got exposed few years back not saying lape is acceptable but unlike those useless figures I believe Gadaffi was framed in general.

He managed to.unite Libya because whole of middle east ideology is pure violence.  He united them and made sure their needs were met and give them good life. Unlike Talibun wannabe country like Afghan Pakustan and some SEA aspirational Talibun wannabe countries.
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they got exposed his harem la, super duper big can fit alot of girls and got interview those victims and their families also, what if the victim is your mum or sister? or relative? or friend? no matter how good u said about him still cannot deny the fact that he did those terrible things during his reign

u go see Lee Kuan Yew, another hero also turned singapore into a first world country, but u got see LKY do these kind of terrible things? no right?
so yeah, i would rather respect ppl like LKY than gaddafi, gaddafi is just a demon pretend to be angel lol

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 6 2025, 10:56 PM)
You will be fukking dead some day, and no one will remember you.
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who cares. Nobody will remember you or your shitposting either, lol
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 6 2025, 10:56 PM)
Dead yes but still he is good leader 90 pc population literate while here barely 20 pc can pass add maths. Which u think more useful in future. Rejeki where kotek pancut because holy man say rejeki but child bodoh or a literate and educated society.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ May 6 2025, 11:41 PM)
who cares. Nobody will remember you or your shitposting either, lol
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Good, if you don't care, fck off, Gaddafi is someone worth to be remembered.
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post May 7 2025, 12:08 AM

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the thing about Gaddafi is that we dont truly know what he really was thanks to western propaganda

while there maybe some truth on either sides, but look at how destroyed as a nation Libya is now. was it worth the "freedom" now? its like that stupid propaganda video back then with Angelina Jolie in Iraq. "Iraqis will starve, lose their homes bla bla, but at least theyre free" lol fuck off

same goes for Syria on how they kept painting Assad as some evul dictator while they carve up his country kek
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post May 7 2025, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 7 2025, 12:08 AM)
the thing about Gaddafi is that we dont truly know what he really was thanks to western propaganda

while there maybe some truth on either sides, but look at how destroyed as a nation Libya is now. was it worth the "freedom" now? its like that stupid propaganda video back then with Angelina Jolie in Iraq. "Iraqis will starve, lose their homes bla bla, but at least theyre free" lol fuck off

same goes for Syria on how they kept painting Assad as some evul dictator while they carve up his country kek
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If you reference to his UN speeches, infrastructure and housing initiatiaves he genuinely tried to do good and he is way more intelligent the our current leader .
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 6 2025, 11:09 PM)
they got exposed his harem la, super duper big can fit alot of girls and got interview those victims and their families also, what if the victim is your mum or sister? or relative? or friend? no matter how good u said about him still cannot deny the fact that he did those terrible things during his reign

u go see Lee Kuan Yew, another hero also turned singapore into a first world country, but u got see LKY do these kind of terrible things? no right?
so yeah, i would rather respect ppl like LKY than gaddafi, gaddafi is just a demon pretend to be angel lol
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Everyone got dark side u think thr Chinaman LKY so perfect ke? The sohai make opposition leader bankrupt by using judiciary like mamak to bankrupt opposition.
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 7 2025, 12:11 AM)
If you reference to his UN speeches, infrastructure and housing initiatiaves he genuinely tried to do good and he is way more intelligent the our current leader .
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so yeah, if you trust the western propaganda who intentionally mislead you then they are mucking about in the country..

tells you alot who the REAL EVIL is
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 7 2025, 12:12 AM)
Everyone got dark side u think thr Chinaman LKY so perfect ke? The sohai make opposition leader bankrupt by using judiciary like mamak to bankrupt opposition.
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LKY how bad also wont be as bad as a dictator who kidnap tens of thousands of innocent young school girls and enslaving them to be his sex slaves then dump them on roadside to die after he finished using them up
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one of the best leader in the history, sadly if you good in this world, you can be killed easily....if he was malaysia prime minister.....Malaysia will be going towards the Moon, rather then now going to maggots
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he is the last gatekeeper that kept the africans from flooding the eu
now them eu's white ppl is enjoying the consequence

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 7 2025, 12:32 AM)
LKY how bad also wont be as bad as a dictator who kidnap tens of thousands of innocent young school girls and enslaving them to be his sex slaves then dump them on roadside to die after he finished using them up
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When you hear such ridiculous cruelty regarding America's enemies, you should realise that it's just a CIA created story to make them into cartoon-type villians.
Like the Iraqi Incubator Babies, Xinjiang prison rapes, Kim Jong feeding his Uncle to dogs, Kim Jong executing his Defence Minister in public using anti-aircraft guns, Kim Jong forcing every man to have the same haircut as him etc....

Gadaffi in reality:
Reuters: What Gadaffi did to 500 Italian models will shock you.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 6 2025, 11:49 PM)
Good, if you don't care, fck off, Gaddafi is someone worth to be remembered.
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Are you a mod? If no? Then stfu. I can comment anywhere i like. That annoys you? Even better.

But we all die alone eventually, bruh. Whats so wrong about that? Why so triggered?

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ May 7 2025, 08:33 AM)
Are you a mod? If no? Then stfu. I can comment anywhere i like. That annoys you? Even better.

But we all die alone eventually, bruh.  Whats so wrong about that? Why so triggered?
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Good, it goes both ways.

Because he was the one preventing immigrants from flooding Europe and elsewhere, he was about to turn whole Africa countries to become fully independent from outsiders and improve their standards of living.

And he died for that, in worse possible way, he get sodomize, beaten and decapitated in front whole world too see.

Hillary Clinton even bragged about his killing by laughing in glee:


The future of Africa generation shall remember this misdeeds.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 7 2025, 08:48 AM)
Good, it goes both ways.

Because he was the one preventing immigrants from flooding Europe and elsewhere, he was about to turn whole Africa countries to become fully independent from outsiders and improve their standards of living.

And he died for that, in worse possible way, he get sodomize, beaten and decapitated in front whole world too see.

Hillary Clinton even bragged about his killing by laughing in glee:


The future of Africa generation shall remember this misdeeds.
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Dunno about the whole Africa, but isnt Ghadaffi more invested in pan Arabism?
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Anyway, the past is pretty much gone.

Maybe ppl here wanna do some reflection, thats fine i guess? But glorifying the past wont improve the present or the future.

Ppl always bemoan the collapse of the golden age for example, but chose to do nothing abt the present and future.

Hopefullh this isnt just another circle jerk session
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ May 7 2025, 08:52 AM)
Dunno about the whole Africa, but isnt Ghadaffi more invested in pan Arabism?
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He is more invested in kicking out bad actors from Africa and stop the reliance on US dollars and US banking system, by using gold as their reserves.

Libya has become the first country in Africa with almost zero debt to IMF and others banking institutions, becoming a truly debt free nation.

For that, they make an example out of him.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ May 7 2025, 08:55 AM)
Anyway, the past is pretty much gone.

Maybe ppl here wanna do some reflection, thats fine i guess? But glorifying the past wont improve the present or the future.

Ppl always bemoan the collapse of the golden age for example, but chose to do nothing abt the present and future.

Hopefullh this isnt just another circle jerk session
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Learning from the past is vital to not letting history repeat itself.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 7 2025, 08:58 AM)
He is more invested in kicking out bad actors from Africa and stop the reliance on US dollars and US banking system, by using gold as their reserves.

Libya has become the first country in Africa with almost zero debt to IMF and others banking institutions, becoming a truly debt free nation.

For that, they make an example out of him.
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He is impatient. Showing off his boat at a time when US hegemony is still at its zenith. I mean what did he expect? First Saddam was gone, then Ghadaffi etc etc.

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 6 2025, 10:56 PM)
Dead yes but still he is good leader 90 pc population literate while here barely 20 pc can pass add maths. Which u think more useful in future. Rejeki where kotek pancut because holy man say rejeki but child bodoh or a literate and educated society.
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That's an odd comparison between literacy rate and add math. Malaysia has a literacy rate of 96% btw.

I had a Libyan university dorm mate. To me, gaddafi basically just sounds like the sultan of brunei. They provided a lot of benefits to the people from oil revenue (including overseas scholarships which my friend was on).

But at the same time, things are not super rosy, as you can expect. Leaders are super rich but not necessarily the people. No comments on harems and torture chambers, but don't imagine that gaddafi and his close family and friends didn't skim a lot of the revenue for themselves.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 7 2025, 09:00 AM)
Learning from the past is vital to not letting history repeat itself.
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learn or glorify. take your pick. They end up in different destinations. Coz glorifying and circle jerking is likely to end up repeating the same mistakes coz nobody learns anything about the mistakes coz it makes them look bad lol
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QUOTE(empyreal @ May 7 2025, 10:04 AM)
That's an odd comparison between literacy rate and add math. Malaysia has a literacy rate of 96% btw.

I had a Libyan university dorm mate. To me, gaddafi basically just sounds like the sultan of brunei. They provided a lot of benefits to the people from oil revenue (including overseas scholarships which my friend was on).

But at the same time, things are not super rosy, as you can expect. Leaders are super rich but not necessarily the people. No comments on harems and torture chambers, but don't imagine that gaddafi and his close family and friends didn't skim a lot of the revenue for themselves.
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The question is whether Libya today is better or worse under Gaddafi?

The problem with Middle East and Africa is they have a lot of tribal groups that constantly clash with each other.

Whether they like it or not, if they want peace and development, they need a strongman to hold everyone together

Look what happened to Iraq, Libya and Syria today after their dictators are disposed

The country falls apart due to infighting



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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 7 2025, 09:16 AM)
The question is whether Libya today is better or worse under Gaddafi?

The problem with Middle East and Africa is they have a lot of tribal groups that constantly clash with each other.

Whether they like it or not, if they want peace and development, they need a strongman to hold everyone together

Look what happened to Iraq, Libya and Syria today after their dictators are disposed

The country falls apart due to infighting
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Thing is gaddafi himself wasn't really peaceful. Aside from being anti West, what people kinda ignore was that he also waged war against his neighbours Egypt and Sudan. In terms of development libya there really wasn't much - libya was similar to other Arab kingdoms heavily reliant on oil (libya is actually a bit worse off because they actually nationalised businesses which drove away private businessmen).

The irony is that gaddafi took power because the former king controlled all the oil revenue, and he ended up controlling all the oil revenue himself.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ May 7 2025, 10:28 AM)
Thing is gaddafi himself wasn't really peaceful. Aside from being anti West, what people kinda ignore was that he also waged war against his neighbours Egypt and Sudan. In terms of development libya there really wasn't much - libya was similar to other Arab kingdoms heavily reliant on oil (libya is actually a bit worse off because they actually nationalised businesses which drove away private businessmen).

The irony is that gaddafi took power because the former king controlled all the oil revenue, and he ended up controlling all the oil revenue himself.
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That is basically how all the Arabs dictator's story

Fact is Libya was still better under him than today where various tribes are fighting each other

He's no angel. That's for sure!
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QUOTE(empyreal @ May 7 2025, 09:28 AM)
Thing is gaddafi himself wasn't really peaceful. Aside from being anti West, what people kinda ignore was that he also waged war against his neighbours Egypt and Sudan. In terms of development libya there really wasn't much - libya was similar to other Arab kingdoms heavily reliant on oil (libya is actually a bit worse off because they actually nationalised businesses which drove away private businessmen).

The irony is that gaddafi took power because the former king controlled all the oil revenue, and he ended up controlling all the oil revenue himself.
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He wanted to direct Libya to an agricultural country.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ May 7 2025, 09:28 AM)
Thing is gaddafi himself wasn't really peaceful. Aside from being anti West, what people kinda ignore was that he also waged war against his neighbours Egypt and Sudan. In terms of development libya there really wasn't much - libya was similar to other Arab kingdoms heavily reliant on oil (libya is actually a bit worse off because they actually nationalised businesses which drove away private businessmen).

The irony is that gaddafi took power because the former king controlled all the oil revenue, and he ended up controlling all the oil revenue himself.
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these Middle east countries need a strong dictator to control, else they will just fight with everyone and the different clans....

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I don't really agree with a lot of Gaddafi aggressive stance on a lot of matters. That said, pretty funny that NATO supported the rebellion because Gaddafi wanted Africa to switch to his gold standard for oil trade instead of the petrodollar.
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He got more oil and money than Norway but his people still fighting to survive.
He launched so many projects yet unifinished.
If his people so educated and civilised, yet is Libya still a failed state.
Sacha Baron Cohen’s Dictator was a pale imitation of Gadaffi.

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Lockerbie bombing not exactly the kind of thing a great leader does.
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Gaddafi fund MILF/MNLF to invade sabah.
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 7 2025, 10:14 AM)
He wanted to direct Libya to an agricultural country.
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gaddafi wanted to, but libya itself was quite far from being self sufficient in food.

but essentially it remained an oil country. when oil prices were up, it got rich. when oil prices went down, the gdp went down. its basically just a different type of oil sultanate.

QUOTE(Virlution @ May 7 2025, 10:20 AM)
these Middle east countries need a strong dictator to control, else they will just fight with everyone and the different clans....
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its a problem of institutions. they dont have the institutions and traditions that are compatible with democratic forms of government (which isnt to say it cant be learned).

without these institutions, people tend to rely on tribalism, ethnic politics, and patronage (e.g. politicians directly handing out aid instead of a government agency that is supposed to be party-neutral). you can either push for reform and strengthen the institutions, or you fall back to dictatorship and never develop them.
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ May 6 2025, 09:30 PM)
He wants to united all Africa and trade oil in others than dollars.

So the west decide he has to go
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this...

if brics introduce its own currency.. surely usa will invade some countries here.

 

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