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post May 2 2025, 07:59 AM, updated 8 months ago

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Recession is coming soon, more and more Malaysians are getting retrenched. Why can’t government provide unemployment benefits like other developed nations? European countries can even provide up to 87% of their previous working income!

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post May 2 2025, 08:00 AM

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Go check income tax rate for those countries
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How much does EIS pay out in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 2 2025, 08:00 AM)
Go check income tax rate for those countries
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post May 2 2025, 08:05 AM

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See the rates of taxation (income, sales, property etc) in those countries. The money to support the jobless has got to come from somewhere.
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Yup, high VAT rates too in most of those countries.

QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 2 2025, 08:00 AM)
Go check income tax rate for those countries
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post May 2 2025, 08:07 AM

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TONGKAT > all jobless benefits out there
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post May 2 2025, 08:07 AM

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we do have under socso

don't meroyan before research
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Already spent a on cheap/free hospital. Cheap education, certain tongkat, price protection food....
Also, unemployed maybe still can make a living by selling street food by roadside here compared to most of the countries you listed above.

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post May 2 2025, 08:21 AM

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Here we give the employed benefits, especially from one group.

La La Land.
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post May 2 2025, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 2 2025, 08:00 AM)
Go check income tax rate for those countries
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Don't forget their consumption tax rates

Malaysia 6% GST sudah kecoh
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post May 2 2025, 08:44 AM

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we do have unemployment benefits la bongok. EIS. although not as strong, but sufficient

however, unemployed due to termination on disciplinary action is not liable for eis claim. i believe majority termination are due to their own stupid actions
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QUOTE(Mattrock @ May 2 2025, 08:21 AM)
Here we give the employed benefits, especially from one group.

La La Land.
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QUOTE(azack @ May 2 2025, 09:15 AM)
Already spent a on cheap/free hospital. Cheap education, certain tongkat, price protection food....
Also,  unemployed maybe still can make a living by selling street food by roadside here compared to most of the countries you listed above.
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yea.

sometimes we wanted EVERYTHING GOOD implemented by other countries but never appreciate the stuff our gomen already doing for us and trying hard to maintain them.



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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 07:59 AM)
... developed nations...
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ May 2 2025, 08:47 AM)
yea.

sometimes we wanted EVERYTHING GOOD implemented by other countries but never appreciate the stuff our gomen alreadying doing for us and trying hard to maintain them.
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yeah, want every shit, but not willing to pay tax lol
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We have EIS from Socso. It's only for few months; but it does exist. The author same like TS no do research
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post May 2 2025, 08:50 AM

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malaysia has JSA.. same as unemployment benefits

https://www.perkeso.gov.my/en/our-services/...-insurance.html


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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 07:59 AM)
Recession is coming soon, more and more Malaysians are getting retrenched. Why can’t government provide unemployment benefits like other developed nations? European countries can even provide up to 87% of their previous working income!

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We do. Is called EIS. Employee paid for the insurance every month. Can claim for period of 6 months.
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Mana boleh bagi tongkat. Cari la kerja. Cuci pinggan ka sapu sampah ka
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QUOTE(pakmulau @ May 2 2025, 09:00 AM)
Mana boleh bagi tongkat. Cari la kerja. Cuci pinggan ka sapu sampah ka
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another unemployment option in malaysia is gig job like grab and food panda
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If this country have this benefits... How many of Malaysian will stop working??
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 07:59 AM)
Recession is coming soon, more and more Malaysians are getting retrenched. Why can’t government provide unemployment benefits like other developed nations? European countries can even provide up to 87% of their previous working income!

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Japan is the only Asian Country in the list.
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 2 2025, 08:00 AM)
Go check income tax rate for those countries
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Why never mention they have GST/Vat?? 🤔
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QUOTE(g5sim @ May 2 2025, 09:04 AM)
Why never mention they have GST/Vat?? 🤔
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QUOTE(g5sim @ May 2 2025, 09:03 AM)
Japan is the only Asian Country in the list.
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Lol income tax tak mau bayar but wants unemployment benefits. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 2 2025, 08:00 AM)
Go check income tax rate for those countries
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QUOTE(haya @ May 2 2025, 08:42 AM)
Don't forget their consumption tax rates

Malaysia 6% GST sudah kecoh
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Personal tax in uk, germany, etc include perpetual pensions.

Income tax may seen lower in this country but after include medical insurance, private education, "perpetual pensions", etc, is HIGHER than uk, germany, etc.

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If everyone willing to pay 40-50% income tax then gomen can give out cash to the jobless lor.

Income tax now not even 30% no matter how much u earned.
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sei Sohai must be the one that voted NO for GST but continue to ask more from the government
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Tongkat dah banyak. Bukan ?
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 2 2025, 10:15 AM)
If everyone willing to pay 40-50% income tax then gomen can give out cash to the jobless lor.

Income tax now not even 30% no matter how much u earned.
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it is not because of income tax rate not 30%. it is how many Malaysians are earning more than 100k a year
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 07:59 AM)
Recession is coming soon, more and more Malaysians are getting retrenched. Why can’t government provide unemployment benefits like other developed nations? European countries can even provide up to 87% of their previous working income!

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We got EIS lah.. before complaining do some research first

It may not enough but compare also the income tax that we paid compared to those European countries

They have GST over there but here in Malaysia we follow stupid LGE singing ABCGST to remove it
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Majority malas

Tax not high

Money can songlap why give rakyat
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many people dont know EIS..
furthermore, our income tax consider lower than other country...
you should be saving more ... unless you wan gomen to save for you.. then they need to tax you more lo...
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because most already got tongkat.
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in usa, social security tax tate is 6.2% and employer have to pay additional 6.2% too.

can you pay that extra tax here?
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Lol .. if this is implemented .. gg Malaysia .. who's gonna work? All rempit enuf la
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Who ask you not born as white?

Centuries of colonization have built up great wealth. Therefore now can shake legs do nothing still get income.😁

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jobless people deserve starvation
disgusting bugger as per homeless
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 07:59 AM)
Recession is coming soon, more and more Malaysians are getting retrenched. Why can’t government provide unemployment benefits like other developed nations? European countries can even provide up to 87% of their previous working income!

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SOCSO EIS: am i joke to you???
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QUOTE(tbcheese @ May 2 2025, 08:03 AM)
How much does EIS pay out in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 2 2025, 08:07 AM)
we do have under socso

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QUOTE(cruel_boy86 @ May 2 2025, 08:44 AM)
we do have unemployment benefits la bongok. EIS. although not as strong, but sufficient

however, unemployed due to termination on disciplinary action is not liable for eis claim. i believe majority termination are due to their own stupid actions
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QUOTE(kens88` @ May 2 2025, 08:48 AM)
We have EIS from Socso. It's only for few months; but it does exist. The author same like TS no do research
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 2 2025, 10:25 AM)
We got EIS lah.. before complaining do some research first

It may not enough but compare also the income tax that we paid compared to those European countries

They have GST over there but here in Malaysia we follow stupid LGE singing ABCGST to remove it
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Where got enough to sustain /k 20k lifestyle??

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Work is suffering. Govt should give UBI.
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 12:38 PM)
Where got enough to sustain /k 20k lifestyle??

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in NZ it is called jobseekers benefit. Some people have been on that benefits for ages. The current rate for a Couple (total) is $614.84 after tax per week.

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QUOTE(zib5 @ May 2 2025, 11:59 AM)
in NZ it is called jobseekers benefit. Some people have been on that benefits for ages. The current rate for a Couple (total) is $614.84 after tax per week.
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How come they can enjoy the benefit forever?

The rate is amounting to NZD 2,635 per month!

But living cost is high though the last time I visited...I recalled Indomie instant noodle cost like NZD 6.49 or something when I browsed the supermarket...here only RM4 nia for the same pack
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 12:06 PM)
How come they can enjoy the benefit forever?

The rate is amounting to NZD 2,635 per month!

But living cost is high though the last time I visited...I recalled Indomie instant noodle cost like NZD 6.49 or something when I browsed the supermarket...here only RM4 nia for the same pack
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Are minimum wage workers in Malaysia ready to pay 17.5% marginal tax rates?
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ever heard of EIS?
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Retrenched?

Wait up...last nite news pongpangpongpang the lowest in history amount of unemployment

Means Malaysias now almost all got job leh where got retrenched
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We r not developed country.

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Where got enough to sustain /k 20k lifestyle??

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Those top countries just takut those become homeless and loitering around the streets, mencacatkan pemandangan.
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TS, lu baru keluar gua? https://www.perkeso.gov.my/en/our-services/...-insurance.html
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 11:38 AM)
Where got enough to sustain /k 20k lifestyle??

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It's a safety net. Even the other countries you mentioned in first post won't give you the full last drawn and as others replied, there is a price to pay.

Kalau dah jobless but don't wanna adjust lifestyle then baik pi 14th floor.
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Some folks rather be unemployed and getting paid for it
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 2 2025, 08:03 AM)
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 2 2025, 10:15 AM)
If everyone willing to pay 40-50% income tax then gomen can give out cash to the jobless lor.

Income tax now not even 30% no matter how much u earned.
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Many here are paying 10% or more of their income for their insurance and 11% to epf and is not perpetual pension.

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QUOTE(tbcheese @ May 2 2025, 08:03 AM)
How much does EIS pay out in Malaysia?
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anyone claim before?
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QUOTE(Chaud @ May 2 2025, 01:17 PM)
anyone claim before?
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my sister in law claim be4

but need strong document especially termination letter ..if kena scam by employer to resign instead of terminate then tarak


and u need to comply like u keep hunting for job or interview and also attend their training but didnt manage to land a job to prolong the claim period

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Got EIS lar, but for 6 months....limited lar.
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QUOTE(tbcheese @ May 2 2025, 09:33 AM)
How much does EIS pay out in Malaysia?
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Malaysia give so much benefit to B40 that a jobless benefit is already unnecessary.
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 11:38 AM)
Where got enough to sustain /k 20k lifestyle??

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 2 2025, 03:14 PM)
my sister in law claim be4

but need strong document especially termination letter ..if kena scam by employer to resign instead of terminate then tarak
and u need to comply like u keep hunting for job or interview and also attend their training but didnt manage to land a job to prolong the claim period
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How much is she getting?
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QUOTE(tbcheese @ May 2 2025, 08:03 AM)
How much does EIS pay out in Malaysia?
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80% of your total salary within 6 months...
Unker claim.before
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 2 2025, 03:14 PM)
my sister in law claim be4

but need strong document especially termination letter ..if kena scam by employer to resign instead of terminate then tarak
and u need to comply like u keep hunting for job or interview and also attend their training but didnt manage to land a job to prolong the claim period
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Hahha
I also claim before... there is a loophole haha but gotten the money.. thank you madani
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QUOTE(achong09 @ May 2 2025, 03:49 PM)
80% of your total salary within 6 months...
Unker claim.before
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Easily to claim?
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 03:38 PM)
How much is she getting?
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portion of it depending on your salary. There are calculator at perkeso website

if u fullfill their quest then can get more $
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 03:55 PM)
Easily to claim?
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as long as you have all the letter then can claim (especially it spell out termination or VSS)

but if u butthurt keluarpattern then resign then can bye bye


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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 07:59 AM)
Recession is coming soon, more and more Malaysians are getting retrenched. Why can’t government provide unemployment benefits like other developed nations? European countries can even provide up to 87% of their previous working income!

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Because it is the most stupid thing that the west does.
It makes their people lazy and unproductive.
" Survival of the fittest " applies to any organism regardless of whether you're a single cell creature or a human.
It is unfair for people who work hard having to feed parasites and freeloaders
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post May 2 2025, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 2 2025, 12:00 AM)
Go check income tax rate for those countries
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 2 2025, 12:03 AM)
TS memang seisohai on common sense
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QUOTE(headache @ May 2 2025, 12:06 AM)
Yup, high VAT rates too in most of those countries.
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Chill brothas. Don't la bantai people with zero exposure to tinggi tinggi income and benefit cuntries.

Sebelum ngaku keluar I also thought living in UK also heaven, but reach here only know its part hell for lazy mofos, but everywhere money to keep if you rajin.
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post May 2 2025, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ May 2 2025, 12:45 PM)
Because it is the most stupid thing that the west does.
It makes their people lazy and unproductive.
" Survival of the fittest " applies to any organism regardless of whether you're a single cell creature or a human.
It is unfair for people who work hard having to feed parasites and freeloaders
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Deswai I am opening my business there. I don't leech them. I literally bloodsuck them until they all kering the kontangs.

Then I deliver all the uangs I profited and deliver to CCPland to ensure that I get a new Wukuai Book.
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post May 2 2025, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ May 2 2025, 03:23 PM)
that is a scam.
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Okay. Never got a chance to try claiming before I left the country.
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post May 2 2025, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ May 2 2025, 08:00 AM)
Go check income tax rate for those countries
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Those who work, literally give away 40% from their salary
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post May 2 2025, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 2 2025, 08:03 AM)
TS memang seisohai on common sense
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TS tongkat mentality

Want benefits without paying for them
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 2 2025, 11:38 AM)
Where got enough to sustain /k 20k lifestyle??

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That maximum just introduced kan last year..
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post May 2 2025, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ May 2 2025, 09:47 PM)
Chill brothas. Don't la bantai people with zero exposure to tinggi tinggi income and benefit cuntries.

Sebelum ngaku keluar I also thought living in UK also heaven, but reach here only know its part hell for lazy mofos, but everywhere money to keep if you rajin.
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In this day and age of unker Google, these people deserve to be bantai.

I got below result in 3 seconds. You can start korek further info based on this.

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post May 2 2025, 10:22 PM

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High tax high pp. Low tax even lower pp.
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post May 2 2025, 10:24 PM

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>knnwong
>datang lagi dengan tered persoalan nya yang agak kurang cerdik
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post May 3 2025, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 2 2025, 02:01 PM)
In this day and age of unker Google, these people deserve to be bantai.

I got below result in 3 seconds. You can start korek further info based on this.

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Aiyoh, AIAI nowadays what also can search and dapat the gist idea liao. But please Handerstank unker's persoalan mentality of Tau baca, tau kira, tau cari, tatau paham paham.

I could read an entire reply of how AI guide me through a day trip in London for best value, but end of day even myself tatau what the heck I'm reading. Sudah oldfag, brain also kantoi liao. Maybe TS is my equivalent lolz.

But hor, if use Google to cari cheong in the Londonistan, it is a very, very, damn interesting result lel..

 

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