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 China’s C919 stuck on tarmac in Europe, as certification timeline extended

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post May 1 2025, 07:04 PM, updated 8 months ago

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As China continues to promote its home-grown C919 passenger plane to overseas markets – and builds a name for the jet in Southeast Asia – it could take longer than expected for the aircraft to receive a coveted endorsement from the European Union’s safety regulator.

In remarks published by French magazine L’Usine Nouvelle on Monday, Florian Guillermet, executive director of the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA), said certification for the narrowbody C919 – essential for the sale of any aircraft to European carriers – will not be granted this year.

“As we informed them officially, the C919 cannot be certified in 2025 … We should be certifying the C919 within three to six years,” Guillermet said. Analysts did not expect the news to deter the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (Comac), the jet’s manufacturer, in its attempts to enter a major overseas market, as the company still has cards left to play.

“C919’s reliability and safety have to be proven by more flights, and it is definitely normal for [the regulator] to have a sceptical and scrutinising attitude,” aviation analyst Li Hanming said. Following its first commercial flight in May 2023, Comac’s plane has been in regular use on several domestic flight paths, transporting over 1 million passengers as of January 2025.

The company received at least 300 firm orders from major Chinese airlines in 2024, with the jet now flying commercial routes in mainland China and Hong Kong. The airliner has also made high-profile appearances at international air shows.

The C919’s European certification process started four years ago, including two “very productive” years, according to Guillermet of EASA. The European agency and the Civil Aviation Administration of China signed the EU-China Bilateral Aviation Safety Agreement in 2019, which reciprocally simplified the approval process for civil aviation vessels and equipment. That deal should encourage the two regulators to share data on aircraft seeking certification, said Mayur Patel, Asia head at British aviation intelligence firm OAG.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/...meline-extended

Deswai they kenot sell to us and we must buy boeing/airbus.. kesian

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post May 1 2025, 07:06 PM

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China should also drag airbus new model for years....
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post May 1 2025, 07:07 PM

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Replace all Asia flights first
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post May 1 2025, 08:05 PM

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Very interesting that the certification has been ongoing for some years now and is expected to last another 2-4 years!
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post May 1 2025, 08:09 PM

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Kesian now CCP airlines cannot fly to Europe because cancel a lot of air bus?
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post May 1 2025, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ May 1 2025, 08:09 PM)
Kesian now CCP airlines cannot fly to Europe because cancel a lot of air bus?
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C919 not enough range to fly from China to Europe
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post May 1 2025, 08:29 PM

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ethiopia now going to seek to purchase comac 919, if they purchase 30 planes most likely china will setup facility in ethiopia
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QUOTE(fongsk @ May 1 2025, 08:05 PM)
Very interesting that the certification has been ongoing for some years now and is expected to last another 2-4 years!
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That's why they falling behind CCP, promote agile tapi sendiri slow babi
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post May 1 2025, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ May 1 2025, 08:33 PM)
That's why they falling behind CCP, promote agile tapi sendiri slow babi
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I dunno. Maybe there are design flaws or issues that caused the delays. We will not know since these are between the two parties.
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post May 1 2025, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 1 2025, 08:26 PM)
C919 not enough range to fly from China to Europe
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Likely for domestic EU flights.
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post May 1 2025, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ May 1 2025, 08:33 PM)
That's why they falling behind CCP, promote agile tapi sendiri slow babi
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If you are not from aviation/aerospace industry better keep quite.

Nampak bangang nnt. Qualification for new bolt n nut manufacturer also can take 5 years. Here we are talking about a damn plane.


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post May 1 2025, 08:41 PM

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Just a Teater show for sheeples. The west has been transferring their tech & known-how to China for ages. Sooner later EU will certify it, it just a matter of when. Previously they transferred the HSR tech (proven to be a stunning success), now it is airplane (In-Progress).

LOL
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post May 1 2025, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(fongsk @ May 1 2025, 08:36 PM)
I dunno. Maybe there are design flaws or issues that caused the delays.  We will not know since these are between the two parties.
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Or if approved. Boeing and Airbus can makan tahi. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 1 2025, 08:45 PM)
Or if approved. Boeing and Airbus can makan tahi. whistling.gif
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Could be. Who knows.
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post May 1 2025, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(fongsk @ May 1 2025, 08:36 PM)
Likely for domestic EU flights.
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Do EU airlines want the c919


EU airlines already have huge Airbus fleets
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No way sitting in some China junk plane
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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 1 2025, 09:04 PM)
Do EU airlines want the c919
EU airlines already have huge Airbus fleets
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Some low costs airlines might want to consider these.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ May 1 2025, 08:05 PM)
Very interesting that the certification has been ongoing for some years now and is expected to last another 2-4 years!
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Usually, it can take up to 5 years but with a completely new plane, it can go longer. Considering it's China's first ever proper plane, not really surprising it's going to take longer. A320 took roughly 10 years from design to first flight and they already got experience making planes. They also got the backing of the whole EU. C919 already got certified in China.

Would I fly on Comac? nahhh.. I dont even fly on boring anymore.
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QUOTE(SehatiSejiwa @ May 1 2025, 10:09 PM)
Usually, it can take up to 5 years but with a completely new plane, it can go longer. Considering it's China's first ever proper plane, not really surprising it's going to take longer. A320 took roughly 10 years from design to first flight and they already got experience making planes. They also got the backing of the whole EU. C919 already got certified in China.

Would I fly on Comac? nahhh.. I dont even fly on boring anymore.
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I am not an aviation expert. And I had qualified previously in the same topic on this plane that I will not board any plane that is not certified to international standards. But if you fly in domestic China, likely you would have taken this plane. I do not have doubts to fly with this plane once it is internationally certified. Until then, for international flights, I prefer to stay away.

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