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post May 1 2025, 01:43 PM, updated 8 months ago

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post May 1 2025, 01:44 PM

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China say from US.

US say from China.

anything new?
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QUOTE(brkli @ May 1 2025, 03:14 PM)
China say from US.

US say from China.

anything new?
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post May 1 2025, 01:46 PM

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US-China joint research on covid variant viruses in China. US pandai if anything happen like lab leak china will get the blame.
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post May 1 2025, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(brkli @ May 1 2025, 01:44 PM)
China say from US.

US say from China.

anything new?
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yes. truth and science died.

QUOTE(anakMY @ May 1 2025, 01:47 PM)
US-China joint research on covid variant viruses in China. US pandai if anything happen like lab leak china will get the blame.
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actually hor, this is just like a cuck situation. if really true, then china should just expose everything, show all the related proofs and collaboration.

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post May 1 2025, 01:52 PM

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Fort Detrick, true source of C19
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 1 2025, 01:51 PM)
yes. truth and science died.
actually hor, this is just like a cuck situation. if really true, then china should just expose everything, show all the related proofs and collaboration.
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Wolf Warrior would have to admit he got cucked by Uncle Sam.
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post May 1 2025, 02:01 PM

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This confirmed? No uturn to Italy, India or Australia later?
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post May 1 2025, 02:08 PM

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post May 1 2025, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 1 2025, 01:51 PM)
yes. truth and science died.
actually hor, this is just like a cuck situation. if really true, then china should just expose everything, show all the related proofs and collaboration.
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Easy, only one country is controlling WHO movement and deleting database at the moment. If got balls then just release everything and let people go see freely.
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post May 1 2025, 02:40 PM

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Nice. Wuhan is US 51st state.

Thanks China.
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post May 1 2025, 02:45 PM

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It's originated from US wut

Everyone knows
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post May 1 2025, 02:48 PM

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That means many can't accept the truth that it's US bio-weapon to bring down China

QUOTE(brkli @ May 1 2025, 01:44 PM)
China say from US.

US say from China.

anything new?
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post May 1 2025, 03:07 PM

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post May 1 2025, 03:07 PM

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who owns the lab? US or China?
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post May 1 2025, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(brkli @ May 1 2025, 01:44 PM)
China say from US.

US say from China.

anything new?
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All I know is Wuhan is in China.
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post May 1 2025, 03:11 PM

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Like Apple products. Designed by America, Produced by China.


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QUOTE(brkli @ May 1 2025, 01:44 PM)
China say from US.

US say from China.

anything new?
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First major populated areas hit with a new mystery respiratory disease in USA ? Or in Wuhan China

Forgot already what happened in 2019?

They don't call it Wuhanvirus for nothing


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post May 1 2025, 03:12 PM

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Wuhan World Military Games 2019.
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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ May 1 2025, 03:12 PM)
First major populated areas hit with a new mystery respiratory disease in USA ? Or in Wuhan China

Forgot already what happened in 2019?

They don't call it Wuhanvirus for nothing
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Use buntot think also know la. When first happen everyone no mask no glove no vaccine, which place exploded in cases first?
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post May 1 2025, 03:34 PM

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No one read the news kah?

In late 2019, many people from nursing home in US had pneumonia which has similar symptoms to Covid.

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QUOTE(potatobanana @ May 1 2025, 03:34 PM)
No one read the news kah?

In late 2019, many people from nursing home in US had pneumonia which has similar symptoms to Covid.
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LOL.

We remember Wuhan residents rushing by the thousands to overstretched and crowded hospitals

CCP ban local domestic flights but continue international flights to export Wuhanvirus more worldwide

Doctors arrested for spreading fear and causing panic. Doctor later died

We remember building hospital in 10 days later got leakages everywhere

After that it went to Iran and Italy. Only later hit USA .

Forgot ka?

Obvious Wuhanvirus originated in Wuhan China

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QUOTE(potatobanana @ May 1 2025, 03:34 PM)
No one read the news kah?

In late 2019, many people from nursing home in US had pneumonia which has similar symptoms to Covid.
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end of 2019 outbreak in wuhan

this means it started way before this outbreak, in wuhan lab? maybe?

xi ji pee will know the truth


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post May 1 2025, 04:02 PM

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there was a us researcher in wuhan lab brought the virus out.

after leaking it in the public, he subsequently returned to the us.
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post May 2 2025, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ May 1 2025, 03:55 PM)
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Thanks ah for giving me motivation to search for the past news.
It started around mid of 2019 if you guys manage to remember.
I remember it clearly coz that time my family was discussing about going to retirement home / nursing home / old folks home, and this is one of the concerns.

> https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/11/us/virgi...reak/index.html

> https://abcnews.go.com/US/respiratory-outbr...ory?id=64275865

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/201...-officials-say/



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QUOTE(potatobanana @ May 2 2025, 03:19 AM)
Thanks ah for giving me motivation to search for the past news.
It started around mid of 2019 if you guys manage to remember.
I remember it clearly coz that time my family was discussing about going to retirement home / nursing home / old folks home, and this is one of the concerns.

> https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/11/us/virgi...reak/index.html

> https://abcnews.go.com/US/respiratory-outbr...ory?id=64275865

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/201...-officials-say/
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that couldn't prove anything

we won't know the real china earliest outbreak, CCP will not tell their people and will not release the real information

all we remembered they forced their doctors to hide the news, and still let their people going oversea to spread virus after the outbreak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang


in the end all these "who started the covid or wuhan virus topic" won't have any outcome, real culprit will not admit and won't tell you the truth
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Nice try chyna

Trying to blame us pulak

I will forever call it the Chinese wuhan virus
They even try to Bribe who to change the name lel pathetic
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post May 2 2025, 05:54 AM

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Who started COVID-19? It's the same people who started the 9/11 event as an excuse to invade Iraq and kill Sadam
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post May 2 2025, 07:22 AM

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COVID-19 'Very Likely' Originated from a US Lab | Jeffrey Sachs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3AYbl8mMnw

Jeffrey D. Sachs is University Professor and Director of the Center for Sustainable Development at Columbia University, President of the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network, and Chair of the Lancet COVID-19 Commission. Sachs has been advisor to three UN Secretaries-General, and currently serves as an SDG Advocate under Secretary-General António Guterres.

you can only believe true intellectual in this topic. most of commentators in this thread can be classified as idiots.

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post May 2 2025, 08:51 AM

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Guess what, if accuse China is the source, people would actually spin the story say Covid in some way is good, made China better and stronger than ever, meanwhile if accuse US is the Covid source, definitely gets bashed till kaukau say it's evil and bad.
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QUOTE(redic @ May 2 2025, 03:54 AM)
that couldn't prove anything

we won't know the real china earliest outbreak, CCP will not tell their people and will not release the real information

all we remembered they forced their doctors to hide the news, and still let their people going oversea to spread virus after the outbreak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang
in the end all these "who started the covid or wuhan virus topic" won't have any outcome, real culprit will not admit and won't tell you the truth
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How many times you expect the world to be tricked by the Americans?
Last time also Black Death likely came from their Fort....now just changed name from Riley to Detrick.

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Then being the assholes that they are, they not only DON'T admit they screwed up, but go pointing fingers at someone else instead.

WHO already visited and investigated Wuhan 3 times, but how many times for Fort Detrick?? Zero of course.

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QUOTE(potatobanana @ May 2 2025, 03:19 AM)
Thanks ah for giving me motivation to search for the past news.
It started around mid of 2019 if you guys manage to remember.
I remember it clearly coz that time my family was discussing about going to retirement home / nursing home / old folks home, and this is one of the concerns.

> https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/11/us/virgi...reak/index.html

> https://abcnews.go.com/US/respiratory-outbr...ory?id=64275865

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/201...-officials-say/


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Finally people notice this, its already in murica many months before 1st wuhan case detected,

murica 1st case - june/july 2019

tongsan 1st case - december 2019

just the difference is, murica claim its mysterious, and never say they found new disease, its forever "mysterious" over there, while tongsan stupid go tell everyone they found something new.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/11/us/virgi...reak/index.html
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By Darran Simon and Rebekah Riess, CNN
2 minute read
Published 10:32 PM EDT, Thu July 11, 2019

Respiratory illness outbreak at retirement home kills 2 and sickens dozens more

A respiratory illness outbreak at a Virginia assisted living facility has left two people dead and sent 18 others to the hospital, health officials said Thursday.

The Fairfax County Health Department is investigating after 54 of the 263 residents at Greenspring Retirement Community, located in Springfield, became ill with respiratory symptoms, ranging from a cough to pneumonia, over the past 11 days , the health department said.

Investigators are working to identify the cause of the outbreak.
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History shows that only USA has used all 3 NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) warfare within this 100 years.

Nuclear bombing of Hiroshima & Nagasaki

Biological used in Korean war (at border with PRC). Covert use in HK (SARS).

Chemical used in Vietnam war (Agent Orange).

Want to go even further back, US used blankets laced with smallpox to genocide Native (Red Indians) Americans.

They have a historical pattern of proudly using NBC.

History repeats itself yet we are blind to the pattern.

Genocidal culture is the American culture.
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QUOTE(Lanchio @ May 2 2025, 11:55 AM)
History shows that only USA has used all 3 NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) warfare within this 100 years.

Nuclear bombing of Hiroshima & Nagasaki

Biological used in Korean war (at border with PRC). Covert use in HK (SARS).

Chemical used in Vietnam war (Agent Orange).

Want to go even further back, US used blankets laced with smallpox to genocide Native (Red Indians) Americans.

They have a historical pattern of proudly using NBC.

History repeats itself yet we are blind to the pattern.

Genocidal culture is the American culture.
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But Communists and Muslims are the evil ones, ammirite??
American's are only trying to share Freedom and Democracy to everyone. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

They have always been a cruel and genocidal race, but AMDK's in /k here still want to worship them (or prefer them to Communists/Muslims) just because they never get targeted by them....yet.

This is what their Pastor is capable of:-
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The damage is done.

So what's point to find the causes? If really found, got any compensation?
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QUOTE(chuan88 @ May 2 2025, 12:46 PM)
The damage is done.

So what's point to find the causes? If really found, got any compensation?
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Pipu killed/laped your famiry member liao. The damage is done.

So what's the point to find the perpetrator? If really found, got any compensation?
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both side cannot be trusted, maybe both also involved
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QUOTE(potatobanana @ May 2 2025, 03:19 AM)
Thanks ah for giving me motivation to search for the past news.
It started around mid of 2019 if you guys manage to remember.
I remember it clearly coz that time my family was discussing about going to retirement home / nursing home / old folks home, and this is one of the concerns.

> https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/11/us/virgi...reak/index.html

> https://abcnews.go.com/US/respiratory-outbr...ory?id=64275865

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/201...-officials-say/


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thanks for schooling the ignorant
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 2 2025, 10:39 AM)
How many times you expect the world to be tricked by the Americans?
Last time also Black Death likely came from their Fort....now just changed name from Riley to Detrick.

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Then being the assholes that they are, they not only DON'T admit they screwed up, but go pointing fingers at someone else instead.

WHO already visited and investigated Wuhan 3 times, but how many times for Fort Detrick?? Zero of course.

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WHO already visited and investigated Wuhan 3 times, you think your CCP stupid will any leave evidence there?

that's so long after covid
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 2 2025, 12:56 PM)
Pipu killed/laped your famiry member liao. The damage is done.

So what's the point to find the perpetrator? If really found, got any compensation?
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Criminal got police to catch, got judge to decide penalty.

Who can catch & penalize the causes of Covid?

Btw, Please learn to type a proper english.

What is Pipu? What is Laped? What is Famiry?
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QUOTE(redic @ May 2 2025, 03:06 PM)
WHO already visited and investigated Wuhan 3 times, you think your CCP stupid will any leave evidence there?

that's so long after covid
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WHO abandons plans for crucial second phase of COVID-origins investigation

Sensitive studies in China were intended to pinpoint the source of the pandemic virus.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00283-y

https://archive.is/20230219092613/https://w...586-023-00283-y

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14 February 2023 Researchers say that too much time has passed to gather some of the data needed to pinpoint where the virus originated.

That July (2021), the WHO sent a circular to member states outlining how it planned to advance origins studies. Proposed steps included assessing wild-animal markets in and around Wuhan and the farms that supplied those markets, as well as audits of labs in the area where the first cases were identified.

But Chinese officials rejected the WHO’s plans, taking particular issue with the proposal to investigate lab breaches. Zhao Lijian, the spokesperson for China’s foreign ministry, said the WHO proposal was not agreed by all member states, and that the second phase should not focus on pathways the mission report had already deemed extremely unlikely.

Stalled work

Gerald Keusch, associate director of the National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratory Institute at Boston University in Massachusetts, says the origins investigation was “poorly handled by the global community. It was poorly handled by China. It was poorly handled by the WHO.” The WHO should have been relentless in creating a positive working relationship with the Chinese authorities, says Keusch; if it was being stonewalled, it should have been honest about that.

Van Kerkhove says that the WHO’s director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, has continued to engage directly with Chinese government officials to encourage China to be more open and to share data. And WHO staff have reached out to the China Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Beijing to try to establish collaborations. “We really, really want to be able to work with our colleagues there,” says Van Kerkhove. “It’s really a deep frustration.”

The Chinese ministry of foreign affairs did not respond to Nature’s e-mailed requests for comment on why the phase-two studies have stalled.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 2 2025, 12:56 PM)
Pipu killed/laped your famiry member liao. The damage is done.

So what's the point to find the perpetrator? If really found, got any compensation?
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Whoa whoa Easy you going to get reported.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 3 2025, 11:42 AM)
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WHO abandons plans for crucial second phase of COVID-origins investigation

Sensitive studies in China were intended to pinpoint the source of the pandemic virus.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00283-y

https://archive.is/20230219092613/https://w...586-023-00283-y
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You only wanted to post the archived link to that story, right? Because you accidentally posted the actual link too, which has an update saying that the WHO has publicly disputed the article (but nature.com insists is true, cos trust-me-bro)

That you'd still post this up shows how dishonest your argument is.

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 3 2025, 02:36 PM)
You only wanted to post the archived link to that story, right? Because you accidentally posted the actual link too, which has an update saying that the WHO has publicly disputed the article (but nature.com insists is true, cos trust-me-bro)

That you'd still post this up shows how dishonest your argument is.

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So Nature said they've seen the emails and found no inaccuracy.
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At least you should know who attempted to kill you

QUOTE(chuan88 @ May 2 2025, 12:46 PM)
The damage is done.

So what's point to find the causes? If really found, got any compensation?
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 3 2025, 02:36 PM)
You only wanted to post the archived link to that story, right? Because you accidentally posted the actual link too, which has an update saying that the WHO has publicly disputed the article (but nature.com insists is true, cos trust-me-bro)

That you'd still post this up shows how dishonest your argument is.

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ok so WHO also says it's wrong because 'trust me bro'. you see the flaw here?
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 3 2025, 02:39 PM)
So Nature said they've seen the emails and found no inaccuracy.
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Then show the emails lo, that should shut the WHO up.
Else is just he said she said, trust me bro, in their part.

Can't blame them for trying to get some of that USD 1.6B China-Bad misinformation dough, though.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 2 2025, 12:56 PM)
Pipu killed/laped your famiry member liao. The damage is done.

So what's the point to find the perpetrator? If really found, got any compensation?
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well, for normal people, besides emotional support, really no point, unless the killing(death) still happening until today.. only got point ppl like police force, justice system and etc, because if they do not do that, there is no point for them to exist. i.e can bye bye to rice bowl.
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 3 2025, 02:44 PM)
Then show the emails lo, that should shut the WHO up.
Else is just he said she said, trust me bro, in their part.

Can't blame them for trying to get some of that USD 1.6B China-Bad misinformation dough, though.
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Probably got confidentiality clause. If got court case then we'll be able to see the emails.

Meanwhile, some people say no need to investigate.

QUOTE(chuan88 @ May 3 2025, 11:30 AM)
Criminal got police to catch, got judge to decide penalty.

Who can catch & penalize the causes of Covid?
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This is exactly what US wanted you to remember and believe

Kesian

Btw, were you pfizered?

QUOTE(tokroni76 @ May 1 2025, 03:55 PM)
LOL.

We remember Wuhan residents rushing by the thousands to overstretched and crowded hospitals

CCP ban local domestic  flights but continue international flights to export Wuhanvirus more worldwide

Doctors arrested for spreading fear and causing panic. Doctor later died

We remember building hospital in 10 days later got leakages everywhere

After that it went to Iran and Italy. Only later hit USA .

Forgot ka?

Obvious Wuhanvirus originated in Wuhan China
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QUOTE(dckm @ May 3 2025, 02:44 PM)
ok so WHO also says it's wrong because 'trust me bro'. you see the flaw here?
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Nature is saying WHO did this and that. WHO is denying that they did this and that. So the onus is on Nature to prove what they accused WHO said/did, and not WHO's responsibility to prove that Nature lied.

It's like me accusing you gay, you denying it, and me saying that your denial is a "trust me bro".

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pornoman2128
post May 3 2025, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 3 2025, 02:47 PM)
Probably got confidentiality clause. If got court case then we'll be able to see the emails.

Meanwhile, some people say no need to investigate.
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Ppl are saying Wuhan already investigated 3 times.

But all other reasonable potential sources are exempted from being investigated even once....Its like some people don't really wanna find the real root cause, and just wanna use Covid as an excuse to blame their adversary.
GagalLand
post May 3 2025, 03:03 PM

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Amdk lickers will not and cannot accept the truth

QUOTE(potatobanana @ May 2 2025, 03:19 AM)
Thanks ah for giving me motivation to search for the past news.
It started around mid of 2019 if you guys manage to remember.
I remember it clearly coz that time my family was discussing about going to retirement home / nursing home / old folks home, and this is one of the concerns.

> https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/11/us/virgi...reak/index.html

> https://abcnews.go.com/US/respiratory-outbr...ory?id=64275865

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/201...-officials-say/


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chuan88
post May 3 2025, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(GagalLand @ May 3 2025, 02:39 PM)
At least you should know who attempted to kill you
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So you got the answer now?
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post May 3 2025, 08:53 PM

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Yes

These ppl won't give up until they bring down China

QUOTE(chuan88 @ May 3 2025, 06:57 PM)
So you got the answer now?
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