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post Apr 29 2025, 04:49 PM, updated 8 months ago

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China Says Willing to Cooperate With US Firms After Boeing Spat

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China is willing to support normal cooperation between US companies, the country’s Ministry of Commerce said in a statement Tuesday, just days after Chinese airlines rejected taking delivery of any new jets from US planemaker Boeing Co.

Officials in Beijing acknowledged that tariff hikes implemented by US President Donald Trump have disrupted the global air transport market, and both Chinese airlines and Boeing have been severely affected. As a result, China hopes the US can create a stable and predictable environment for normal trade and investment activities, according to Tuesday’s statement.

China earlier this month ordered its airlines not to take any further deliveries of Boeing jets as part of the tit-for-tat trade war that’s seen Trump levy tariffs of as high as 145% on Chinese goods. The order came after China unveiled retaliatory tariffs of 125% on American goods, levies that would have more than doubled the cost of US-made aircraft and parts, making it impractical for Chinese airlines to accept Boeing planes.

Boeing Chief Executive Officer Kelly Ortberg confirmed last Wednesday that China has stopped taking deliveries of any planes and said the planemaker is prepared to find alternative buyers for China-bound aircraft.

We’re in close communication with our China customers and we’re actively assessing options for remarketing already built or in process airplanes,” Ortberg said during Boeing’s earnings call.

The move has left in doubt the fate of about 50 jets that were slated to go to China this year. Boeing has since begun flying 737 Max jets that were refused by Chinese airline customers back to the US.

Among airlines that are willing recipients of the aircraft rejected by China is Air India Ltd. Through the end of last month, the Indian airline had accepted 41 737 Max jets originally built for Chinese airlines, and the carrier has signaled it’s eager to take more, Bloomberg has reported.

An olive branch from Beijing would be a boon for Chinese airlines, many of whom had been relying on Boeing jets for their expansion plans. China is forecast to make up 20% of global aircraft demand over the next two decades and in 2018, nearly a quarter of Boeing’s output ended up there.


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Fuck Boeing! C919 to the moon! 💪🏼
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cockblock malaysia.

Malaysia Airlines eyes new Boeing jets should China reject them
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-...hem-2025-04-21/
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Apr 29 2025, 04:54 PM)
cockblock malaysia.

Malaysia Airlines eyes new Boeing jets should China reject them
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-...hem-2025-04-21/
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Desmond's most hated country sudah sapu 41 jets lo.

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Nooooooo. Wait till Malaysia get cheap cheap Boeing planes first.

Not so fast lar uturn
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the Indian airline had accepted 41 737 Max jets originally built for Chinese airlines, and the carrier has signaled it’s eager to take more, Bloomberg has reported.

need to avoid Boeing. AirBus FTW
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China have been emphasis willing to discuss trade war all the while right?

But Trump insist Xi to call first which not happening
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Apr 29 2025, 04:57 PM)
need to avoid Boeing. AirBus FTW
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Comac can ?
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China is willing to support normal cooperation between US companies


Since when the situation between the 2 giant is normal now....? hmm.gif
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thanks china now everyone in the world can enjoy boeing supply
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Trump still waiting for Xi phone call....
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 29 2025, 05:00 PM)
China have been emphasis willing to discuss trade war all the while right?

But Trump insist Xi to call first which not happening
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XPP can exempt Boeing from tariffs the same way Trump exempted Apple from tariffs.
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Sometimes it's very hard to decipher which news is the genuine truth, and which is not genuine.
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Apr 29 2025, 04:57 PM)
need to avoid Boeing. AirBus FTW
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last time when they announce they're gonna stop buying boeing everything
i already say it's impossible
why?

look at what plame XJP is using laugh.gif

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:04 PM)
XPP can exempt Boeing from tariffs the same way Trump exempted Apple from tariffs.
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Both sides quietly deescalate is good la. No need api api kan the nationalists ethnocentrism flames again
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:06 PM)
Both sides quietly deescalate is good la. No need api api kan the nationalists ethnocentrism flames again
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:04 PM)
XPP can exempt Boeing from tariffs the same way Trump exempted Apple from tariffs.
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Obviously he can but why he want to do so?
Comac can build and got plenty order to fulfill
Localization with lower cost
Parts can come through Airbus deal
Buy 1 plane come with an engine..... U know it is the plan right?

Building Apple in USA is not going to be cheaper nor more efficient

Key is that China is not afraid of inflation since deflation is trending
USA is opposite
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 29 2025, 05:09 PM)
Obviously he can but why he want to do so?
Comac can build and got plenty order to fulfill
Localization with lower cost
Parts can come through Airbus deal
Buy 1 plane come with an engine..... U know it is the plan right?

Building Apple in USA is not going to be cheaper nor more efficient

Key is that China is not afraid of inflation since deflation is trending
USA is opposite
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Who is XPP?

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Boeing very good sales , thanks to Trump. America great again
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:04 PM)
XPP can exempt Boeing from tariffs the same way Trump exempted Apple from tariffs.
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No need for CCP China to do that. CCP China can collect the 125% Tariffs on the Boeing jets from their state-owned Chinese airlines and then give the money back to the airlines as special anti-Trump subsidies or grants. Like that Emperor Xi can "save face" ma. laugh.gif

Also, .......

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanp...lane-deliveries - 2025/04/29 - China-blames- US -tariffs-for-halting- Boeing-plane-deliveries - AFP News
= blame others when CCP China shot themselves in the foot or CCP's shit no come out, blame hard ground. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:10 PM)
user posted image

Who is XPP?

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Dude, XPP is written by u..... Topkek for u asking what u written!
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Please note it says US companies, NOT US government ya.

Two different entities. brows.gif

Deswai China now deal direct with Nvidia to set up base in China itself. icon_idea.gif

#$$$$$$$

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 29 2025, 05:15 PM)
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No need for CCP China to do that. CCP China can collect the 125% Tariffs on the Boeing jets from their state-owned Chinese airlines and then give the money back to the airlines as special anti-Trump subsidies or grants. Like that Emperor Xi can "save face" ma. laugh.gif

Also, .......

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanp...lane-deliveries - 2025/04/29 - China-blames- US -tariffs-for-halting- Boeing-plane-deliveries - AFP News
= blame others when CCP China  shot themselves in the foot or CCP's shit no come out, blame hard ground.  biggrin.gif
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Those thinking USA is winning trade war must of out of touch with reality....... Even Trump awoke by now
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 29 2025, 05:18 PM)
Dude, XPP is written by u..... Topkek for u asking what u written!
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XPP = Xipeepee. You said "He". "He" is who?

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:20 PM)
XPP = Xipeepee. You said "He". "He" is who?

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 29 2025, 05:22 PM)
Finally u r awake now.... Don't ask me what u wrote ya......
He is Almighty in China
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Almighty Xipeepee.

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Boeing also manufacture some part in China.

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 29 2025, 05:06 PM)
last time when they announce they're gonna stop buying boeing everything
i already say it's impossible
why?

look at what place XJP is using laugh.gif
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:23 PM)
Almighty Xipeepee.

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Name calling does not made a difference dude....
It is strength that is important.... see Trump use bombastic word but reality will sink in somehow someday
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QUOTE(Root-X @ Apr 29 2025, 04:53 PM)
Fuck Boeing! C919 to the moon! 💪🏼
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QUOTE(70U63 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:26 PM)
Boeing also manufacture some part in China.
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problem is he needed it all, not some

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 29 2025, 05:09 PM)
Obviously he can but why he want to do so?
Comac can build and got plenty order to fulfill
Localization with lower cost
Parts can come through Airbus deal
Buy 1 plane come with an engine..... U know it is the plan right?

Building Apple in USA is not going to be cheaper nor more efficient

Key is that China is not afraid of inflation since deflation is trending
USA is opposite
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Fyi, the first Microsoft Windows smartphones based on Windows Phone 7 OS, ie Nokia Lumia 800 and 710 in 2011, were manufactured by Nokia in factories in Finland. The mid-range Nokia Lumia 710 cost only US$349.
....... So, manufacturing Apple iPhones in USA or Europe can be affordable and efficient, once the supply chain is established and optimized. Some laptops are being Made-in-America. Cars and jets are being Made-in-America, eg GM, Ford, Boeing, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Lumia_710
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Lumia_800
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An olive branch from Beijing would be a boon for Chinese airlines, many of whom had been relying on Boeing jets for their expansion plans. China is forecast to make up 20% of global aircraft demand over the next two decades and in 2018, nearly a quarter of Boeing’s output ended up there.
China's airlines haven't ordered any 737 Max after 2019. They are supporting C919 in additional to A320neo/A321neo, as Airbus has a factory in Tianjin.

But they still need Boeing's widebody jets i.e. 787, 777.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 29 2025, 05:34 PM)
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Fyi, the first Microsoft Windows smartphones based on Windows Phone 7 OS, ie Nokia Lumia 800 and 710 in 2011,  were manufactured by Nokia in factories in Finland.  The mid-range Nokia Lumia 710 cost only US$349.
....... So, manufacturing Apple iPhones in USA or Europe can be affordable and efficient, once the supply chain is established and optimized. Some laptops are being Made-in-America. Cars and jets are being Made-in-America, eg GM, Ford, Boeing, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Lumia_710
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Lumia_800
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Dude, data and fact tell it all.

monthly factory operator starting salary

¥45,910 ($6293) - China as baseline
€1,500 ($20491) - Finland 1.57x
$32,175 - USA 5.1x


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QUOTE(Root-X @ Apr 29 2025, 04:53 PM)
Fuck Boeing! C919 to the moon! 💪🏼
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Kesian not certified internationally.
Maybe can use the extra space to carry goats and animals in rural china

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:55 PM)
Kesian not certified internationally.
Maybe can use the extra space to carry goats and animals in rural china
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C919 doesn't need to get any certifications because it's meant to fly to the moon only (one-way) 🤭
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QUOTE(Root-X @ Apr 29 2025, 06:01 PM)
C919 doesn't need to get any certifications because it's meant to fly to the moon only (one-way) 🤭
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Apr 29 2025, 05:34 PM)
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Fyi, the first Microsoft Windows smartphones based on Windows Phone 7 OS, ie Nokia Lumia 800 and 710 in 2011,  were manufactured by Nokia in factories in Finland.  The mid-range Nokia Lumia 710 cost only US$349.
....... So, manufacturing Apple iPhones in USA or Europe can be affordable and efficient, once the supply chain is established and optimized. Some laptops are being Made-in-America. Cars and jets are being Made-in-America, eg GM, Ford, Boeing, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Lumia_710
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Lumia_800
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 29 2025, 05:54 PM)
Dude, data and fact tell it all.

monthly factory operator starting salary

¥45,910 ($6293) - China as baseline
€1,500 ($20491) - Finland 1.57x
$32,175 - USA 5.1x
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Fyi, the US Federal minimum wage is US$7.25 per hour = average US$1,400 per month = US$16,800 per year.

USA can allow Apple/Foxconn to hire legal immigrants from Mexico, etc to work in their new iPhone factories in USA, macam our cheaper legal Bangladeshi and Nepali factory workers in Malaysia. Eg .......

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-sugg...tus-2025-04-10/ - Trump-suggests-farmers-could-petition to -keep-workers-without-legal-status - 2025-04-10

iPhones sold in USA from factories in USA will enjoy 0% Tariffs (Made-in-India iPhones = 10% Tariffs; Made-in-China iPhones = 20% Tariffs - will be increased later), no shipping fees, no Custom clearance costs, less logistics/warehousing costs, etc.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 29 2025, 07:17 PM)
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Fyi, the US Federal minimum wage is US$7.25 per hour = average US$1,400 per month = US$16,800 per year.

USA can allow Apple/Foxconn to hire legal immigrants from Mexico, etc to work in their new iPhone factories in USA, macam our cheaper legal Bangladeshi and Nepali factory workers in Malaysia. Eg .......

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-sugg...tus-2025-04-10/ - Trump-suggests-farmers-could-petition to -keep-workers-without-legal-status - 2025-04-10

iPhones sold in USA from factories in USA will enjoy 0% Tariffs (Made-in-India iPhones = 10% Tariffs; Made-in-China iPhones = 20% Tariffs - will be increased later), no shipping fees, no Custom clearance costs,  less logistics/warehousing costs, etc.
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Likely u have never calculate manpower cost before right?

Minimum wages are only portion of total manpower cost. U have missed to include annual leave, 13 month + annual bonus, medical leave, epf and sosco.

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 29 2025, 07:17 PM)
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Fyi, the US Federal minimum wage is US$7.25 per hour = average US$1,400 per month = US$16,800 per year.

USA can allow Apple/Foxconn to hire legal immigrants from Mexico, etc to work in their new iPhone factories in USA, macam our cheaper legal Bangladeshi and Nepali factory workers in Malaysia. Eg .......

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-sugg...tus-2025-04-10/ - Trump-suggests-farmers-could-petition to -keep-workers-without-legal-status - 2025-04-10

iPhones sold in USA from factories in USA will enjoy 0% Tariffs (Made-in-India iPhones = 10% Tariffs; Made-in-China iPhones = 20% Tariffs - will be increased later), no shipping fees, no Custom clearance costs,  less logistics/warehousing costs, etc.
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hahaha so funny

you think 8 dollars an hour 1.4k a month can survive in US, food keep rising..rent..fuel

talk is easy hahahahaa but reality its not
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Rumours of CN totally removing 125% tariffs are out but yet officially announced.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 29 2025, 05:09 PM)
Obviously he can but why he want to do so?
Comac can build and got plenty order to fulfill
Localization with lower cost
Parts can come through Airbus deal
Buy 1 plane come with an engine..... U know it is the plan right?

Building Apple in USA is not going to be cheaper nor more efficient

Key is that China is not afraid of inflation since deflation is trending
USA is opposite
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Lel. As if Comac will be given permission to fly internationally. The so called Aviation international entah apa organization not given permission to Comac to fly internationally. It is not Comac don't want to fly internationally it is kena cock block

Hence china can fly locally saje as the organization cannot block internally domestic flight.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2025, 08:55 AM)
Desmond's most hated country sudah sapu 41 jets lo.

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sapu is sapu, ada bayar or not first?

We all know that this BHARAT is very good with sudah angkat, bayar apa lahanat perangai. That time, diskaunt also useless. But shit happen, all boeing fault.

Wait and see la.

Even they sohai also ended up other people make them sohai fault.
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Apr 30 2025, 07:38 AM)
Lel. As if Comac will be given permission to fly internationally. The so called Aviation international entah apa organization not given permission to Comac to fly internationally. It is not Comac don't want to fly internationally it is kena cock block

Hence china can fly locally saje as the organization cannot block internally domestic flight.
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why not? I trust Chinese quality better than American quality these days.😅
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News Title is so misleading, u got read the news piece or not?
Probably written by Boeing themselves

Boeing Chief Executive Officer Kelly Ortberg confirmed last Wednesday that China has stopped taking deliveries of any planes and said the planemaker is prepared to find alternative buyers for China-bound aircraft.

Mana China Mau Boeing??

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Apr 30 2025, 07:38 AM)
Lel. As if Comac will be given permission to fly internationally. The so called Aviation international entah apa organization not given permission to Comac to fly internationally. It is not Comac don't want to fly internationally it is kena cock block

Hence china can fly locally saje as the organization cannot block internally domestic flight.
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China domestic market is bigger than existing Comac plan can support. In fact China market are expected to growth further

It is simple solution use Comac to fly local while existing Boeing / Airbus to fly international. By the time Comac fulfill local demand, overseas approval will be obtained. It is parallel activity
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So they admit their local aircraft is shit
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Apr 30 2025, 08:08 AM)
sapu is sapu, ada bayar or not first?

We all know that this BHARAT is very good with sudah angkat, bayar apa lahanat perangai. That time, diskaunt also useless. But shit happen, all boeing fault.

Wait and see la.

Even they sohai also ended up other people make them sohai fault.
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airplane tak boleh buat macam car loan. only 2 major supplier in airline industry, you can try tak bayar. later see your plane got spare parts or software kena locked, that time can fly or not.
airline reputation also down in the drain, who will leased plane to you?
imaging 50 plane parking at airport unbale to fly, parking fees alone also will kill the airline. that time is bharat vs bharat company.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2025, 04:49 PM)
China Says Willing to Cooperate With US Firms After Boeing Spat

https://archive.is/20250429040854/https://w...ter-boeing-spat
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Sino licker day day blow Sino always win kan ?
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Fuck Boeing! C919 to the moon! 💪🏼
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Apr 29 2025, 07:17 PM)
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Fyi, the US Federal minimum wage is US$7.25 per hour = average US$1,400 per month = US$16,800 per year.

USA can allow Apple/Foxconn to hire legal immigrants from Mexico, etc to work in their new iPhone factories in USA, macam our cheaper legal Bangladeshi and Nepali factory workers in Malaysia. Eg .......

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-sugg...tus-2025-04-10/ - Trump-suggests-farmers-could-petition to -keep-workers-without-legal-status - 2025-04-10

iPhones sold in USA from factories in USA will enjoy 0% Tariffs (Made-in-India iPhones = 10% Tariffs; Made-in-China iPhones = 20% Tariffs - will be increased later), no shipping fees, no Custom clearance costs,  less logistics/warehousing costs, etc.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 30 2025, 12:35 AM)
Likely u have never calculate manpower cost before right?

Minimum wages are only portion of total manpower cost. U have missed to include annual leave, 13 month + annual bonus, medical leave, epf and sosco.
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Bangladeshi and Nepali factory workers in Malaysia ada 13th month pay, annual bonus and EPF kah.?

How many days of annual and medical leave do factory workers in USA get, and what is its costs.?

Fyi, .......

AI Overview

In Malaysia, the government has made Employees Provident Fund (EPF) contributions mandatory for foreign workers, effective by the fourth quarter of 2025. The mandatory rate for both employers and employees is 2% of the employee's monthly wage, according to a news report from Bernama. Previously, foreign workers could voluntarily opt into the scheme, with an employee contribution of 11% and an employer contribution of RM5 per month.

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Apr 30 2025, 12:49 AM)
hahaha so funny

you think 8 dollars an hour 1.4k a month can survive in US, food keep rising..rent..fuel

talk is easy hahahahaa but reality its not
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hahaha so funny

you think RM1,700 a month can survive in Malaysia, food keep rising..rent..fuel .?

talk is easy hahahahaa but reality its not
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 01:19 PM)
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hahaha so funny

you think RM1,700 a month can survive in Malaysia, food keep rising..rent..fuel .?

talk is easy hahahahaa but reality its not
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Hahahaha even more funny

Chance of surviving here with 1.7k is higher than 1.4k in usa hahahaha

Also isn't we hee poor.. poor living cost also lower like chainah peasants hahahahaha
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 30 2025, 08:25 AM)
China domestic market is bigger than existing Comac plan can support. In fact China market are expected to growth further

It is simple solution use Comac to fly local while existing Boeing / Airbus to fly international. By the time Comac fulfill local demand, overseas approval will be obtained. It is parallel activity
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- The World Has Turned Away From China! Empty International Airports, Flight Students Eliminated - 1 day ago
= if true, CCP China domestic market is shrinking and won't be able to support Comac sales.

The main point of the OP is that CCP China boycotting popular Boeing jets is having little effect on Boeing's global sales. Whereas not able to fly internationally and kena US Tariffs of 145% is hugely effecting Comac's global sales.

USA 1: 0 CCP China.
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- The World Has Turned Away From China! Empty International Airports, Flight Students Eliminated - 1 day ago
= if true, CCP China domestic market is shrinking and won't be able to support Comac sales.

The main point of the OP is that CCP China boycotting popular Boeing jets is having little effect on Boeing's global sales. Whereas  not able to fly internationally and kena US Tariffs of 145% is hugely effecting Comac's global sales.

USA 1: 0 CCP China.
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Delusion is real for some
Comac hv 1300++ open order that can last more than 10 years
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When china launched its own commercial airline Boeing was facing its own safety issue.

Wonder what happened to China c303 or whatever it is. Many time I jave had hoped they can raise to the challenge turn out to he a dud. Same like that BRICS.

Apa la.
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Apr 30 2025, 01:22 PM)
Hahahaha even more funny

Chance of surviving here with 1.7k is higher than 1.4k in usa hahahaha

Also isn't we hee poor.. poor living cost also lower like chainah peasants hahahahaha
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Fyi, .......

- The average wage gap between undocumented and legal immigrants is over 35%. ...

Introduction
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) estimates that 12.1 million undocumented persons resided in the United States in January 2014 ....

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/artic...927537119300831 - The wage penalty to undocumented immigration - 2019

Hahahaha even more funny

Chance of surviving in USA with even 35% lower wage than 1.4k is there la hahahaha

Also isn't the Mexican workers there poor.. poor living cost also lower like chainah peasants hahahahaha
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- The World Has Turned Away From China! Empty International Airports, Flight Students Eliminated - 1 day ago
= if true, CCP China domestic market is shrinking and won't be able to support Comac sales.

The main point of the OP is that CCP China boycotting popular Boeing jets is having little effect on Boeing's global sales. Whereas  not able to fly internationally and kena US Tariffs of 145% is hugely effecting Comac's global sales.

USA 1: 0 CCP China.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Apr 30 2025, 01:44 PM)
Delusion is real for some
Comac hv 1300++ open order that can last more than 10 years
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If the above Youtube video is true, many of the 1,005 orders for Comac C919 will be cancelled, like during the Covid Pandemic from 2020-2022.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Apr 30 2025, 01:50 PM)
When china launched its own commercial airline Boeing was facing its own safety issue.

Wonder what happened to China c303 or whatever it is. Many time I jave had hoped they can raise to the challenge turn out to he a dud. Same like that BRICS.

Apa la.
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I think you mean CCP China's Comac C909 - stolen technology from McDonnel Douglas's MD-80, .......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C909
.... In 1985, Shanghai Aircraft Manufacturing Company, now a part of Comac, launched a "troubled" partnership with McDonnell Douglas to co-produce the MD-80, a similar-looking small jet aircraft. After producing 20 MD-80s, the joint venture eventually collapsed, but China refused to return the tooling used. Western analysts state that the ARJ21 is "heavily derived" from the MD-80, including its 1980s-era airframe. However, Chinese state media claim that the ARJ21 is an indigenous design....
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 01:52 PM)
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Fyi, .......

- The average wage gap between undocumented and legal immigrants is over 35%.  ...

Introduction
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) estimates that 12.1 million undocumented persons resided in the United States in January 2014 ....

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/artic...927537119300831 - The wage penalty to undocumented immigration - 2019

Hahahaha even more funny

Chance of surviving in USA with even 35% lower wage than 1.4k is there la  hahahaha

Also isn't the Mexican workers there  poor.. poor living cost also lower like chainah peasants hahahahaha
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hahahahaha even more and more funny

trump already kicking off undocumented peepul..legal peepul need to pay them more wor need to cover alot of things hahahahahaha

also pay them 1.4k a month is a form of slavery hahaha i thought you say only chinah do this..so now exploit others its fine hahahahahaha
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China very super mao face la
In front say no nego, belakang mari one
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Apr 30 2025, 02:14 PM)
hahahahaha even more and more funny

trump already kicking off undocumented peepul..legal peepul need to pay them more wor need to cover alot of things hahahahahaha

also pay them 1.4k a month is a form of slavery hahaha i thought you say only chinah do this..so now exploit others its fine hahahahahaha
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hahahahaha even more and more funny

trump only kicking off undocumented peepul who are criminals, and gang members..legal peepul need to pay them only US$1,400 per month plus a bit more la hahahahahaha

also pay them 1.4k a month or RM1,700 a month is not a form of slavery bc no long working (16) hours, no only 2 rest days per month, no 10 persons to a small dorm-room, no no social welfare benefits, no etc hahaha ... i thought you say chinah do not exploit their factory workers as "slaves" or tools hahahahahaha
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 02:28 PM)
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hahahahaha even more and more funny

trump only kicking off undocumented peepul who are criminals, and gang members..legal peepul need to pay them only US$1,400 per month plus a bit more la hahahahahaha

also pay them 1.4k a month or RM1,700 a month is not a form of slavery bc no long working (16) hours, no only 2 rest days per month, no 10 persons to a small dorm-room, no no social welfare benefits, no etc hahaha ... i thought you say chinah do not exploit their factory workers as "slaves" or tools hahahahahaha
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hahahha more more more funny

you think only kick out those do crime..the whole point is to remove anyone that tarak document so americans can have the job back and clean streets

pay american 1.4k per month? haahhaha amerikan these days pay $300 for car loan, $1000 for rent..so no need eat anymore? hahaha

paying your so-called illegal peepul 1.4k is slavery and worst at a country when cost of living is rising..aiye now you are more ccp than ccp..ins ome ways i think you love ccp hahahaha
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 02:13 PM)
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I think you mean CCP China's Comac C909 - stolen technology from McDonnel Douglas's MD-80, .......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C909
.... In 1985, Shanghai Aircraft Manufacturing Company, now a part of Comac, launched a "troubled" partnership with McDonnell Douglas to co-produce the MD-80, a similar-looking small jet aircraft. After producing 20 MD-80s, the joint venture eventually collapsed, but China refused to return the tooling used. Western analysts state that the ARJ21 is "heavily derived" from the MD-80, including its 1980s-era airframe. However, Chinese state media claim that the ARJ21 is an indigenous design....
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Tak tau la. Had always wanted to give China a fair view. But time and again ...disappointing. tot they gonna fully use their own airplane and give boing the middle finger jor

Supporter said BRICS gonna kill usd. When time for them to raise to the challenge.....
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Apr 29 2025, 07:17 PM)
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Fyi, the US Federal minimum wage is US$7.25 per hour = average US$1,400 per month = US$16,800 per year.

USA can allow Apple/Foxconn to hire legal immigrants from Mexico, etc to work in their new iPhone factories in USA, macam our cheaper legal Bangladeshi and Nepali factory workers in Malaysia. Eg .......

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-sugg...tus-2025-04-10/ - Trump-suggests-farmers-could-petition to -keep-workers-without-legal-status - 2025-04-10

iPhones sold in USA from factories in USA will enjoy 0% Tariffs (Made-in-India iPhones = 10% Tariffs; Made-in-China iPhones = 20% Tariffs - will be increased later), no shipping fees, no Custom clearance costs,  less logistics/warehousing costs, etc.
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Apr 30 2025, 03:13 PM)
hahahha more more more funny

you think only kick out those do crime..the whole point is to remove anyone that tarak document so americans can have the job back and clean streets

pay american 1.4k per month? haahhaha amerikan these days pay $300 for car loan, $1000 for rent..so no need eat anymore? hahaha

paying your so-called illegal peepul 1.4k is slavery and worst at a country when cost of living is rising..aiye now you are more ccp than ccp..ins ome ways i think you love ccp hahahaha
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My repost above for your "amnesia". hahaha.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Apr 30 2025, 04:06 PM)
Tak tau la. Had always wanted to give China a fair view. But time and again ...disappointing. tot they gonna fully use their own airplane and give boing the middle finger jor

Supporter said BRICS gonna kill usd. When time for them to raise to the challenge.....
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CCP China and Emperor Xi, by hook AND by crook, greatly desire to be the Da Ge or world superpower by dethroning USA. This desire is driven by greed and jealousy.
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Apr 30 2025, 04:06 PM)
Tak tau la. Had always wanted to give China a fair view. But time and again ...disappointing. tot they gonna fully use their own airplane and give boing the middle finger jor

Supporter said BRICS gonna kill usd. When time for them to raise to the challenge.....
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When their plane start falling down from sky, then lagi tiao.
Straight away busuk
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 04:19 PM)
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My repost above for your "amnesia". hahaha.
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hahahaha thats why is ay talk is easy

legal come in US work for 1.4k per month..do you know what kinda living cost in US these days..1.4k is nothing there

thats why i say you support slavery..pay ppl 1.4k and think they can survive..its worst than anything hahahaha
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 04:29 PM)
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CCP China and Emperor Xi, by hook AND by crook, greatly desire to be the Da Ge or world superpower by dethroning USA. This desire is driven by greed and jealousy.
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you sure ah? like you got ask chinese here in malaysia what they want? hahahaha
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No wonder blackrock mao cepat cepat makan MAHB airport..

Indirectly secure boeing plane able to fly here fly there, and dont approve comac to land
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 01:52 PM)
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Fyi, .......

- The average wage gap between undocumented and legal immigrants is over 35%.  ...

Introduction
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) estimates that 12.1 million undocumented persons resided in the United States in January 2014 ....

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/artic...927537119300831 - The wage penalty to undocumented immigration - 2019

Hahahaha even more funny

Chance of surviving in USA with even 35% lower wage than 1.4k is there la  hahahaha

Also isn't the Mexican workers there  poor.. poor living cost also lower like chainah peasants hahahahaha
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Apr 30 2025, 04:35 PM)
hahahaha thats why is ay talk is easy

legal come in US work for 1.4k per month..do you know what kinda living cost in US these days..1.4k is nothing there

thats why i say you support slavery..pay ppl 1.4k and think they can survive..its worst than anything hahahaha
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My repost above for your "amnesia". hahaha.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 05:14 PM)
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My repost above for your "amnesia". hahaha.
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hahahaha aiye you support slavery just so your country that dont know who you are can sucksess hahahahaha
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QUOTE((PowerSlide @ Apr 16 2025, 08:16 AM)
All hail emperor xi!!!

Chainah numba wan!!!

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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 04:29 PM)
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CCP China and Emperor Xi, by hook AND by crook, greatly desire to be the Da Ge or world superpower by dethroning USA. This desire is driven by greed and jealousy.
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Apr 30 2025, 04:40 PM)
you sure ah? like you got ask chinese here in malaysia what they want? hahahaha
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Your repost above fyi. hahaha.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 05:21 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111499518 - Xi Jinping gets warm welcome in Malaysia
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Your repost above fyi. hahaha.
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you support slavery and exploitation give the poor ppl low wages hahahahahaha
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hahahahaha even more and more funny

trump only kicking off undocumented peepul who are criminals, and gang members..legal peepul need to pay them only US$1,400 per month plus a bit more la hahahahahaha

also pay them 1.4k a month or RM1,700 a month is not a form of slavery bc no long working (16) hours, no only 2 rest days per month, no 10 persons to a small dorm-room, no no social welfare benefits, no etc hahaha ... i thought you say chinah do not exploit their factory workers as "slaves" or tools hahahahahaha
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Apr 30 2025, 05:18 PM)
hahahaha aiye you support slavery just so your country that dont know who you are can sucksess hahahahaha
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My repost above for your amnesia. hahahaha.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 05:25 PM)
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My repost above for your amnesia. hahahaha.
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dont support slavery and exploitation ok hahahaha
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QUOTE(((lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025 @ 04:29 PM)
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CCP China and Emperor Xi, by hook AND by crook, greatly desire to be the Da Ge or world superpower by dethroning USA. This desire is driven by greed and jealousy.
QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 05:21 PM)
QUOTE(((PowerSlide @ Apr 16 2025 @  08:16 AM)

All hail emperor xi!!!

Chainah numba wan!!!
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111499518 - Xi Jinping gets warm welcome in Malaysia
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Your repost above fyi. hahaha.
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Apr 30 2025, 05:30 PM)
dont support slavery and exploitation ok hahahaha
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dont support slavery and exploitation by CCP Chainah OK, don't support Emperor Xi and Chainah Numbawan ok hahahaha
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[quote=lurkingaround,Apr 30 2025, 05:41 PM]
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111499518 - Xi Jinping gets warm welcome in Malaysia
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Your repost above fyi. hahaha.
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dont support slavery and exploitation by CCP Chainah OK, don't support Emperor Xi and Chainah Numbawan ok hahahaha
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You better support chianah slavery ok, this the only way probably chainaah would crash then your fav country can win hahahah

If not chainah numba wan!!! Hahahaha
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 05:41 PM)

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111499518 - Xi Jinping gets warm welcome in Malaysia

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Your repost above fyi. hahaha.
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dont support slavery and exploitation by CCP Chainah OK, don't support Emperor Xi and Chainah Numbawan ok hahahaha
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You better support chianah slavery ok, this the only way probably chainaah would crash then your fav country can win hahahah

If not chainah numba wan!!! Hahahaha
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don't post haphazardly ok. hahahahaha.
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Lol kesian.

Already begging for boeing ? What happen to their comic ? Lol
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 30 2025, 06:21 PM)
Lol kesian.

Already begging for boeing ? What happen to their comic ? Lol
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Comic also western plane what. China only can produce the frame everything else is western
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Lol kesian.

Already begging for boeing ? What happen to their comic ? Lol
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Lel COMIC. Their COMIC woso use Boeing parts, deswai they diam diam give tariff exemptions to aero plane parts.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5521020&hl=

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[quote=lurkingaround,Apr 30 2025, 06:15 PM]
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Your repost above fyi. hahaha.
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dont support slavery and exploitation by CCP Chainah OK, don't support Emperor Xi and Chainah Numbawan ok hahahaha
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You better support chianah slavery ok, this the only way probably chainaah would crash then your fav country can win hahahah

If not chainah numba wan!!! Hahahaha
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don't post haphazardly ok. hahahahaha.
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Because I don't support exploitation 1.4k hahahaha poor me
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Apr 30 2025, 06:45 PM)
Comic also western plane what. China only can produce the frame everything else is western
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 30 2025, 06:49 PM)
Lel COMIC. Their COMIC woso use Boeing parts, deswai they diam diam give tariff exemptions to aero plane parts.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5521020&hl=
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post Apr 30 2025, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 30 2025, 06:49 PM)
Lel COMIC. Their COMIC woso use Boeing parts, deswai they diam diam give tariff exemptions to aero plane parts.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5521020&hl=
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= the more evil CCP China very sneaky one.
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abelyap
post Apr 30 2025, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 30 2025, 02:04 PM)
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If the above Youtube video is true, many of the 1,005 orders for Comac C919 will be cancelled, like during the Covid Pandemic from 2020-2022.
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U know open order would continue rise over time right?

China is having double digit growth rate for passenger volume
Let discuss based on fact and data rather conspiracy theory



 

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