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desmond2020
post Apr 28 2025, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Lesane @ Apr 28 2025, 02:30 PM)
Seem western got salty of India
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what you smoke until you think other country will be salty of india?
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post Apr 28 2025, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Blackscreamerz @ Apr 28 2025, 01:57 PM)
Actually Pakistan and India really sounds like North Korea and South Korea.
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Technically they are in a way.

Just differe4nt element divide them

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post Apr 28 2025, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lesane @ Apr 28 2025, 02:25 PM)
Why should a country surrender its Land & Territory.

In this case its a symbol for them (both)
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that region was not part of India after India's independece... there were a lot of issues and terrorism even then (although the phrase terrorism was hardly used back then).

and then India went into the whole mess... so the original question is why another country went into the region that is already in a mess and then claim someone else started it?

I also don't know why a country should surrender any land that originally doesn't belong to it.
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post Apr 28 2025, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Lesane @ Apr 28 2025, 02:21 PM)
not easy because both dont wat to co exist
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Thats the problem
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post Apr 28 2025, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 28 2025, 02:39 PM)
that region was not part of India after India's independece... there were a lot of issues and terrorism even then (although the phrase terrorism was hardly used back then).

and then India went into the whole mess...  so the original question is why another country went into the region that is already in a mess and then claim someone else started it?

I also don't know why a country should surrender any land that originally doesn't belong to it.
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Kashmir-Jammu was a princely state ruled by a Maharaja (Hari Singh)

After independence, Pakistan attack / invade K & J and Hari Singh agree to accede to India in exchange of India / British help

If based on that, India has more claim over K&J compared to Pakistan.

At least that's my understanding

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post Apr 28 2025, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Lesane @ Apr 28 2025, 02:52 PM)
Kashmir-Jammu was a princely state ruled by a Maharaja (Hari Singh)

After independence, Pakistan attack / invade K & J and Hari Singh agree to accede to India.

If based on that, India has more claim over K&J compared to Pakistan.

At least that's my understanding
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In 1947, the Princely State of Jammu and Kashmir had a population that was predominantly Muslim, with approximately 77% of the population being Muslim and 20% Hindu. While specific figures vary slightly depending on the source, the general demographic distribution was a significant Muslim majority, with a substantial Hindu minority, particularly in the Jammu region.

so these muslims wanna be ruled by kafir?
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post Apr 28 2025, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Lesane @ Apr 28 2025, 02:52 PM)
Kashmir-Jammu was a princely state ruled by a Maharaja (Hari Singh)

After independence, Pakistan attack / invade K & J and Hari Singh agree to accede to India in exchange of India / British help

If based on that, India has more claim over K&J compared to Pakistan.

At least that's my understanding
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your understanding and mine is the same.

hence its India venturing into the region of mess and not being able to resolve it.

having said all this, I am not so sure if India has more or less claim... what is sure is that the mess and issues were already there, and India went into it with its eyes wide open.

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post Apr 28 2025, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 28 2025, 02:58 PM)
your understanding and mine is the same.

hence its India venturing into the region of mess and not being able to resolve it.

having said all this, I am not so sure if India has more or less claim... what is sure is that the mess and issues were already there, and India went into it with its eyes wide open.
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and committing war crime

According to scholars, Indian forces have committed many human rights abuses and acts of terror against the Kashmiri civilian population, including extrajudicial killing, rape, torture, and enforced disappearances.[49][50] According to Amnesty International, no member of the Indian military deployed in Jammu and Kashmir has been tried for human rights violations in a civilian court as of June 2015, although military courts-martial have been held.[51] Amnesty International has also accused the Indian government of refusing to prosecute perpetrators of abuses in the region.[52] Moreover, there have been instances of human rights abuses in Azad Kashmir, including but not limited to political repressions and forced disappearances.[53] Brad Adams, the Asia director at Human Rights Watch said in 2006 "Although 'Azad' means 'free', the residents of Azad Kashmir are anything but free. The Pakistani authorities govern Azad Kashmir with strict controls on basic freedoms".[54] The OHCHR reports on Kashmir released two reports on "the situation of human rights in Indian-Administered Kashmir and Pakistan-Administered Kashmir".

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Apr 28 2025, 03:01 PM)
and committing war crime

According to scholars, Indian forces have committed many human rights abuses and acts of terror against the Kashmiri civilian population, including extrajudicial killing, rape, torture, and enforced disappearances.[49][50] According to Amnesty International, no member of the Indian military deployed in Jammu and Kashmir has been tried for human rights violations in a civilian court as of June 2015, although military courts-martial have been held.[51] Amnesty International has also accused the Indian government of refusing to prosecute perpetrators of abuses in the region.[52] Moreover, there have been instances of human rights abuses in Azad Kashmir, including but not limited to political repressions and forced disappearances.[53] Brad Adams, the Asia director at Human Rights Watch said in 2006 "Although 'Azad' means 'free', the residents of Azad Kashmir are anything but free. The Pakistani authorities govern Azad Kashmir with strict controls on basic freedoms".[54] The OHCHR reports on Kashmir released two reports on "the situation of human rights in Indian-Administered Kashmir and Pakistan-Administered Kashmir".

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pretty sure got many will claim its fake news... cos no way a democracy can commit attrocities...
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post Apr 28 2025, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Apr 28 2025, 02:54 PM)
In 1947, the Princely State of Jammu and Kashmir had a population that was predominantly Muslim, with approximately 77% of the population being Muslim and 20% Hindu. While specific figures vary slightly depending on the source, the general demographic distribution was a significant Muslim majority, with a substantial Hindu minority, particularly in the Jammu region.

so these muslims wanna be ruled by kafir?
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K&J is a princely state. the Maharaj owns the state with the protection of the British.

The Maharaja can decide with who he want to joint and it is not subject to the citizen choice much.

If they decided to revolted and take over that is up to their choice (Which they did)

At that point the maharaja sort India /British India's help which was made conditional by British.


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post Apr 28 2025, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Lesane @ Apr 28 2025, 03:27 PM)
K&J is a princely state. the Maharaj owns the state with the protection of the British.

The Maharaja can decide with who he want to joint and it is not subject to the citizen choice much.

If they decided to revolted and take over that is up to their choice (Which they did)

At that point the maharaja sort India /British India's help which was made conditional  by British.
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so it is democracy or absolute monarchy?

don't shift goal post when it fit
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post Apr 28 2025, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Apr 28 2025, 03:01 PM)
and committing war crime

According to scholars, Indian forces have committed many human rights abuses and acts of terror against the Kashmiri civilian population, including extrajudicial killing, rape, torture, and enforced disappearances.[49][50] According to Amnesty International, no member of the Indian military deployed in Jammu and Kashmir has been tried for human rights violations in a civilian court as of June 2015, although military courts-martial have been held.[51] Amnesty International has also accused the Indian government of refusing to prosecute perpetrators of abuses in the region.[52] Moreover, there have been instances of human rights abuses in Azad Kashmir, including but not limited to political repressions and forced disappearances.[53] Brad Adams, the Asia director at Human Rights Watch said in 2006 "Although 'Azad' means 'free', the residents of Azad Kashmir are anything but free. The Pakistani authorities govern Azad Kashmir with strict controls on basic freedoms".[54] The OHCHR reports on Kashmir released two reports on "the situation of human rights in Indian-Administered Kashmir and Pakistan-Administered Kashmir".

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When war happen there will always be this kind of issue. something like collateral damage.

Sad but reality of war and conflict.

it even happen in Malaysia


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post Apr 28 2025, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Apr 28 2025, 03:28 PM)
so it is democracy or absolute monarchy?

don't shift goal post when it fit
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What are you smoking, mana ada shift

At the point of acceding to India K&J were princely state which means semi-independent and a nominally sovereign entity of British Raj.

So as long as he (Maharaja) is paying his rental/ tribute / tax to the British he is considered as absolute monarchy.
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good. we need a reduce global population. too many human causing too much demand for food which increase price

every year food price increase inflastion and so on so on.. due to human breeding too many
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QUOTE(Lesane @ Apr 28 2025, 03:38 PM)
What are you smoking, mana ada shift

At the point of acceding to India K&J were princely  state which means semi-independent and a nominally sovereign entity of British Raj.

So as long as he (Maharaja) is paying his  rental/ tribute / tax to the British he is considered as absolute monarchy.
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Desmond is totally clueless about what he is talking about. Just go slow at him lol

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post Apr 28 2025, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(nobrainer86 @ Apr 28 2025, 01:50 PM)
Pakistan has been US and China ally while Bharat Russian ally

Not sure in current flare up where the lines are drawn to be honest.
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didnt know the us used to bomb allies haha
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Apr 28 2025, 05:17 PM)
didnt know the us used to bomb allies haha
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US & CIA purposely and inadvertently have been one of the biggest funders of Pakistani ISI and Taliban in the past.
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Apr 27 2025, 06:39 PM)
Gandhi was useless fag la. Real hero for India is Subash Chandra Bose. British malu if kalah because military so say gay Gandhi is good.
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You are fag yourself, he sacrifice a lot for India to be peaceful and in harmony together, completely the opposite to atuk and PuAS mentality.

Because if they do not settle their differences then, in the future, not even country borders could solve it, which is what they are experiencing now.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Apr 27 2025, 01:49 PM)
Please go ahead don't just talk. See what happen. Waiting for this a long time already but so much acting and empty talk. Pakistan is coward, always threatening for so long but no action.
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if malaysia close water to singapork, how ? will SG talk only or how ?
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post Apr 29 2025, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ Apr 29 2025, 02:16 PM)
You are fag yourself, he sacrifice a lot for India to be peaceful and in harmony together, completely the opposite to atuk and PuAS mentality.

Because if they do not settle their differences then, in the future, not even country borders could solve it, which is what they are experiencing now.
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Lol Gandhi is attention whore . Real man is Subash Chandra Bose. The whore Gandhi and Pondan Nehru allow the formation of Pugistan Talibun. There will be less telolism in the world if gay Gandhi didn't give up Pugistan and Nehru lanjiao give up UNSC to Chairman Mao.

They gave up permanent seat in UNSC to appease chairman fatty Mao. Both are faggots.

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