US don't need China rare earths
US don't need China rare earths
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Apr 25 2025, 05:55 PM, updated 8 months ago
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Apr 25 2025, 05:58 PM
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While commonly referred to as "rare," these elements are not actually rare in terms of abundance, but they are less concentrated and harder to extract in concentrated ore deposits, leading to their "rarity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_el...0heavy%20metals. |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Apr 25 2025, 05:58 PM) While commonly referred to as "rare," these elements are not actually rare in terms of abundance, but they are less concentrated and harder to extract in concentrated ore deposits, leading to their "rarity" Correct. Delulu pipul think us will go begginghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_el...0heavy%20metals. This post has been edited by RT8081: Apr 25 2025, 06:01 PM |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Apr 25 2025, 05:58 PM) While commonly referred to as "rare," these elements are not actually rare in terms of abundance, but they are less concentrated and harder to extract in concentrated ore deposits, leading to their "rarity" Thanks captain obvious. This has been the number 1 talking point whenever any western media talks about rare earth. Anyone can dig the ground. The challenge is refining it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_el...0heavy%20metals. This post has been edited by ZeaXG: Apr 25 2025, 06:04 PM |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:04 PM
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Finally, Trump managed to rekindle the animal spirit of USA's manufacturing prowess. And USA finally goes big into recycling. Phoenix_KL liked this post
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Apr 25 2025, 06:06 PM
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so .... US want to buy my old washing machine? willing to let go. cheap cheap. spursfan liked this post
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Apr 25 2025, 06:07 PM
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If they can afford to pay the american salary
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Apr 25 2025, 06:07 PM
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If recycling them made economic sense for the US it would've been implemented already.
These 2 husband & wife macam airing out their dirty laundry and trying to one-up each other who can live the hermit lifestyle better. |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Apr 25 2025, 06:02 PM) Thanks captain obvious. This has been the number 1 talking point whenever any western media talks about rare earth. Anyone can dig the ground. The challenge is refining it. Having refining techniques is not enough. The rare earth must also presence in big enough quantity to ensure commercial viability.Having to resort to recycling route to get rare earth material already shown US can’t get it in more convenient and abundant way. |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Apr 25 2025, 06:06 PM) better don't. Trump say you need to pay tariffs for selling them stuff. loserguy liked this post
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Apr 25 2025, 06:08 PM
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Apr 25 2025, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 25 2025, 06:04 PM) Finally, Trump managed to rekindle the animal spirit of USA's manufacturing prowess. Necessity is the mother of Invention.And USA finally goes big into recycling. Wedchar2912 liked this post
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Apr 25 2025, 06:11 PM
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1 hdd lama jual 10k usd laku tak?
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Apr 25 2025, 06:14 PM
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Good lo.. Keep this up.... Lol..
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Apr 25 2025, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Apr 25 2025, 06:06 PM) 👀 Recycling fr PCs, servers, old smartpons— makes > sense…. Wedchar2912 and loserguy liked this post
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Apr 25 2025, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 25 2025, 06:08 PM) Having refining techniques is not enough. The rare earth must also presence in big enough quantity to ensure commercial viability. Got news say US want to try underwater mining for rare earths. Having to resort to recycling route to get rare earth material already shown US can’t get it in more convenient and abundant way. The United States Thought China Would Veto Their Exports of Rare Earths. But They Have a Plan B: The Pacific Floor https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/the-un...oor/ar-AA1DxraP Maybe can get it up and running when Barron Trump is running for president. |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:17 PM
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Apr 25 2025, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 25 2025, 06:08 PM) Having refining techniques is not enough. The rare earth must also presence in big enough quantity to ensure commercial viability. Viability what? they can't get in china then where else? At this point it becomes like food security already, need have domestic backup.Having to resort to recycling route to get rare earth material already shown US can’t get it in more convenient and abundant way. Maybe it will called mineral security 🤔 |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Apr 25 2025, 06:18 PM) Viability what? they can't get in china then where else? At this point it becomes like food security already, need have domestic backup. Yeap. In the name of security.Maybe it will called mineral security 🤔 Like how SG will recycle waste water or desalinate salt water. Despite getting a lot of water from MY. |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Apr 25 2025, 06:17 PM) This post has been edited by Phoenix_KL: Apr 25 2025, 06:22 PM TiramisuCoffee liked this post
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Apr 25 2025, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Apr 25 2025, 06:15 PM) Got news say US want to try underwater mining for rare earths. Necessity is the mother of all invention The United States Thought China Would Veto Their Exports of Rare Earths. But They Have a Plan B: The Pacific Floor https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/the-un...oor/ar-AA1DxraP Maybe can get it up and running when Barron Trump is running for president. This pull up their rare earth will pull red flag to all western company They won't rely on any material monopolize by other countries anymore. I bet we would see new advance mining method invented |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:25 PM
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Old hard drives?
Not shipped to MY/CN already? |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:26 PM
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in before...Houthis will pick up rare earth from the "freedom packages" they received to sell back to US.
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Apr 25 2025, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Apr 25 2025, 06:02 PM) Thanks captain obvious. This has been the number 1 talking point whenever any western media talks about rare earth. Anyone can dig the ground. The challenge is refining it. The challenge is not refining lah. It's dealing with the waste. That's why America happily let china destroy their land to get cheap rare earths. Same goes for Australia with lynas.QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 25 2025, 06:08 PM) Having refining techniques is not enough. The rare earth must also presence in big enough quantity to ensure commercial viability. Sure got stock enough for years / decades one lah, at least for military use. Commercial use will probably see supply issues. Having to resort to recycling route to get rare earth material already shown US can’t get it in more convenient and abundant way. Plenty of rare earth in northern Vietnam. They may become a big player in the future. Depends on whether tongsan kacau them. This post has been edited by spursfan: Apr 25 2025, 06:36 PM |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Apr 25 2025, 06:18 PM) Viability what? they can't get in china then where else? At this point it becomes like food security already, need have domestic backup. Maybe it will called mineral security 🤔 QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 25 2025, 06:21 PM) Yeap. In the name of security. Depend on what they gonna use their own expensive rare earth to produce, if it’s just consumer products, high price tag will not be commercially viable. If use for their weapons production, paid by tax money and overseas macai then ok lah.Like how SG will recycle waste water or desalinate salt water. Despite getting a lot of water from MY. In the end, Trump still shoot himself in the foot. So far US gain nothing but self harm from his stupid trade war. Takde susah, sendiri bikin susah. Wedchar2912 liked this post
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Apr 25 2025, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 25 2025, 06:08 PM) Having refining techniques is not enough. The rare earth must also presence in big enough quantity to ensure commercial viability. Actually recycling is good. It’s just not commercially viable because price too low all this while. Recycling is far better for the environment than mining raw minerals.Having to resort to recycling route to get rare earth material already shown US can’t get it in more convenient and abundant way. Now because gold price so high recycling electronics for the gold also got market This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Apr 25 2025, 06:41 PM |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 25 2025, 06:40 PM) Actually recycling is good. It’s just not commercially viable because price too low all this while. Recycling is far better for the environment than mining raw minerals. All the while this kind of recycling is done by super poor country, where the ppl exposed to many dangerous waste. Poor country ppl has been collecting valuable materials from disposed computer and electronics for decades.Now because gold price so high recycling electronics for the gold also got market |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:43 PM
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tables turned...US now a recycling plant
I presume every washing machine sent for recycling is replaced by a new washing machine, no? If so, what is the net excess that can be redirected for other purposes? Unless you are swapping washing machines for cars. This post has been edited by ceras: Apr 25 2025, 06:49 PM |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:45 PM
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The American is think of extracting the deep sea nodules. That is going to kill the sea
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Apr 25 2025, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 25 2025, 06:40 PM) Actually recycling is good. It’s just not commercially viable because price too low all this while. Recycling is far better for the environment than mining raw minerals. The so called "rare" earth is also highly polluting to mine. And it's so rare that Malaysia is sitting on 1 trillion worth of rare earth potential lmao. China banning exports to US will benefit usNow because gold price so high recycling electronics for the gold also got market |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Apr 25 2025, 06:46 PM) The so called "rare" earth is also highly polluting to mine. And it's so rare that Malaysia is sitting on 1 trillion worth of rare earth potential lmao. China banning exports to US will benefit us Mining and processing. Let them build the facilities in their sunbelt states. Those area not much value and already filled with deserts. |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:57 PM
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The role has been reversed, now china can export their trash to US to recycle loserguy liked this post
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Apr 25 2025, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 25 2025, 06:43 PM) All the while this kind of recycling is done by super poor country, where the ppl exposed to many dangerous waste. Poor country ppl has been collecting valuable materials from disposed computer and electronics for decades. that because only those countries can recycle them at a profit when prices for recycled scrap were lower than mining new gold, copper and rare earth from e-waste. now with tariff and shortage, it become viable to recycle them using amdk standards.This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Apr 25 2025, 06:58 PM |
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Apr 25 2025, 06:58 PM
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It is definitely possible but it is not the cheapest nor most efficient option.
Mainly a desperate containment action When prolong trade war -- decoupling and 2 different spheres of influence bound to shape up |
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Apr 25 2025, 07:00 PM
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china tarak malu ka? kasi US bully...............puiks
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Apr 25 2025, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(ceras @ Apr 25 2025, 06:43 PM) tables turned...US now a recycling plant steel and copper all can recycle, just not very profitable but if the main purpose is to get at the rare earth, than the steel and copper windings are basically free recycle material, and you have enviromental benefit of not having to mine new mineral or smelting raw iron ore. only the plastic cant be recycled.I presume every washing machine sent for recycling is replaced by a new washing machine, no? If so, what is the net excess that can be redirected for other purposes? Unless you are swapping washing machines for cars. This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Apr 25 2025, 07:01 PM |
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Best part is they dishonored the airplane deals, now Boeing asked them f off no more spare parts and support 'go eat yourself...'
Mal and India fast fast angkat USA and takeover these planes. So much for xxp my visits. Lolx This post has been edited by swanlover: Apr 25 2025, 07:05 PM |
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Apr 25 2025, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(swanlover @ Apr 25 2025, 07:04 PM) Best part is they dishonored the airplane deals, now Boeing asked them f off no more spare parts and support 'go eat yourself...' Komek c919 cannot use by MAS anyway, no international certification. That was just lip service lmao.Mal and India fast fast angkat USA and takeover these planes. So much for xxp my visits. Lolx |
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Apr 25 2025, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 25 2025, 06:34 PM) Depend on what they gonna use their own expensive rare earth to produce, if it’s just consumer products, high price tag will not be commercially viable. If use for their weapons production, paid by tax money and overseas macai then ok lah. Yes, correct. Recycling isn't easy, and not necessarily cheap. In the end, Trump still shoot himself in the foot. So far US gain nothing but self harm from his stupid trade war. Takde susah, sendiri bikin susah. I know this because I am involved in recycling activity as a volunteer. |
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Apr 25 2025, 07:51 PM
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u think y lynas cum here to set up shop
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until now i can't brain what benefit Lynas to us. those Fxxxing Aussie export the raw material here to process then import the final product back and leave the shit for us to keep for eternity. their deserts are much larger than Malaysia they have more than enough waste land to keep the shit than us.
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Apr 25 2025, 07:02 PM) Thanks captain obvious. This has been the number 1 talking point whenever any western media talks about rare earth. Anyone can dig the ground. The challenge is refining it. Now 2025 still got sohais think that you just need to dig up the rare earth and that's it...🤣 Sohais betul For those amdk sohais and thick face fella This post has been edited by sunami: Apr 25 2025, 09:08 PM ZeaXG liked this post
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Apr 25 2025, 08:46 PM
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Ok
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trump wet dream
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Apr 25 2025, 09:19 PM
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processing plant readiness bila?
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QUOTE(quintesson @ Apr 25 2025, 08:41 PM) until now i can't brain what benefit Lynas to us. those Fxxxing Aussie export the raw material here to process then import the final product back and leave the shit for us to keep for eternity. their deserts are much larger than Malaysia they have more than enough waste land to keep the shit than us. If we got half a brain we supposed to steal their technology Rare earth itself actually are in abundance, technical know how to extract, purify and process it at scale is the one lacking |
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Apr 25 2025, 09:27 PM
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Thank you....Now we can export all our trash back to USA
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Apr 25 2025, 09:40 PM
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People really need to read more into details. Seems like a lot of commentator just read the headline of a report, and think they are genius can solve a complicated problem. |
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Apr 26 2025, 04:11 PM
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of the seven materials China is restricting – samarium, gadolinium, terbium, dysprosium, lutetium, scandium, and yttrium – only dysprosium is commonly found in hard drives.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...-cuts-out-china obviously china's ban is targeting the US defense industry . the US defense industry will be in deep shit in a few months. This post has been edited by issac99289928: Apr 26 2025, 04:14 PM |
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Apr 26 2025, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Apr 26 2025, 04:11 PM) of the seven materials China is restricting – samarium, gadolinium, terbium, dysprosium, lutetium, scandium, and yttrium – only dysprosium is commonly found in hard drives. Trump: we'll just upload that shit to the cloud, my man Hegseth has been doing it on Signalhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...-cuts-out-china obviously china's ban is targeting the US defense industry . the US defense industry will be in deep shit in a few months. |
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Apr 26 2025, 04:34 PM
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Donald Trump becomes Dumb Trump
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