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TSHikayatSalju
post Apr 23 2025, 09:54 AM, updated 8 months ago

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Ukraine should thank Trump.

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post Apr 23 2025, 09:57 AM

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>halt =/= stop
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post Apr 23 2025, 10:04 AM

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Ukraine win liao... U see putin kecut....
pandah
post Apr 23 2025, 10:05 AM

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any map comparison of original line and current line?
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post Apr 23 2025, 10:11 AM

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post Apr 23 2025, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Apr 23 2025, 11:05 AM)
any map comparison of original line and current line?
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Ukraine will lose around 20-25% of its former territory

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Apr 23 2025, 11:35 AM
Natsukashii
post Apr 23 2025, 10:19 AM

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Visa Mastercard hope can use soon


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post Apr 23 2025, 10:23 AM

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shakhtar is now russian club?
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post Apr 23 2025, 10:27 AM

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"Currently under ukrainian"

Ya right. Lol. Literally kena konker.
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post Apr 23 2025, 10:33 AM

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Nothing new. All these are just negotiation 101.

The devil is in the details. For Putin to give up some demands, he probably got some concessions.

In this case, its the concession that US will recognise crimea as part of Russia.

What is important to understand is that for both sides, all these are just words and paper only. Can delete at any time.

However, as long as it is in both sides interest to stop fighting, fighting will stop. Even Ukraine will benefit from war stopping.

The calculus changed due entirely to Trump. He changed US stance to US interest for fighting to stop. That is the main change and why I think there will be an eventual peace deal.
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post Apr 23 2025, 10:35 AM

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It wont happen... UE and UK needs its war to justify their financial collapse and blame on the war instead.

So war needs to happen by 2027.
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post Apr 23 2025, 10:40 AM

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Jewlensky the fuhrer already decreed a nono giving up Donbass

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Ukraine will not legally recognize Russia's occupation of Crimea under any circumstances, President Volodymyr Zelensky said
during a briefing in Kyiv on April 22.

"There is nothing to talk about. This violates our Constitution. This is our territory, the territory of the people of Ukraine," Zelensky
told reporters.

The statement comes amid reports that the recognition of Crimea as Russian territory is being considered as part of a U.S.-backed
proposal to end the war in Ukraine.

Zelensky warned that any discussion of Crimea risks shifting negotiations into a framework dictated by the Kremlin. He said such
proposals play directly into Russian President Vladimir Putin's "game."

https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-rules-...ng-putins-game/
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post Apr 23 2025, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(fanlou @ Apr 23 2025, 10:40 AM)
Jewlensky the fuhrer already decreed a nono giving up Donbass

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Ukraine will not legally recognize Russia's occupation of Crimea under any circumstances, President Volodymyr Zelensky said
during a briefing in Kyiv on April 22.

"There is nothing to talk about. This violates our Constitution. This is our territory, the territory of the people of Ukraine," Zelensky
told reporters.

The statement comes amid reports that the recognition of Crimea as Russian territory is being considered as part of a U.S.-backed
proposal to end the war in Ukraine.

Zelensky warned that any discussion of Crimea risks shifting negotiations into a framework dictated by the Kremlin. He said such
proposals play directly into Russian President Vladimir Putin's "game."

https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-rules-...ng-putins-game/
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then fight till the last ukrainian then
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post Apr 23 2025, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(fanlou @ Apr 23 2025, 10:40 AM)
Jewlensky the fuhrer already decreed a nono giving up Donbass

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Ukraine will not legally recognize Russia's occupation of Crimea under any circumstances, President Volodymyr Zelensky said
during a briefing in Kyiv on April 22.

"There is nothing to talk about. This violates our Constitution. This is our territory, the territory of the people of Ukraine," Zelensky
told reporters.

The statement comes amid reports that the recognition of Crimea as Russian territory is being considered as part of a U.S.-backed
proposal to end the war in Ukraine.

Zelensky warned that any discussion of Crimea risks shifting negotiations into a framework dictated by the Kremlin. He said such
proposals play directly into Russian President Vladimir Putin's "game."

https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-rules-...ng-putins-game/
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Says Jewlensky, a chess piece in "US game".
takbodoh722
post Apr 23 2025, 10:44 AM

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Whether Ukraine recognise or not is irrelevant. Ukraine's view is irrelevant to Trump. That's the way to end the war.

Its the Korean war format. Already got prior case.

Neither side recognise Korean war borders. For the past 70+ years, North Korea still look for one Korea. What they want is irrelevant. Same will happen to Ukraine.

P.s. UK is even more irrelevant.
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post Apr 23 2025, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Apr 23 2025, 10:12 AM)
Ukraine will lose around 0-25% of its former territory
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ok la if compare to gaza ...
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thought said the war is to remove zelensky?

so what is this war about?
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post Apr 23 2025, 11:13 AM

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Keyword, along the current frontline. Zelensky gonna agree? Or fight till the last man?
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post Apr 23 2025, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(fanlou @ Apr 23 2025, 10:40 AM)
Jewlensky the fuhrer already decreed a nono giving up Donbass

user posted image

Ukraine will not legally recognize Russia's occupation of Crimea under any circumstances, President Volodymyr Zelensky said
during a briefing in Kyiv on April 22.

"There is nothing to talk about. This violates our Constitution. This is our territory, the territory of the people of Ukraine," Zelensky
told reporters.

The statement comes amid reports that the recognition of Crimea as Russian territory is being considered as part of a U.S.-backed
proposal to end the war in Ukraine.

Zelensky warned that any discussion of Crimea risks shifting negotiations into a framework dictated by the Kremlin. He said such
proposals play directly into Russian President Vladimir Putin's "game."

https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-rules-...ng-putins-game/
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Yes thays right, they already win liao. Now russia cannot tahan ask for peace already. Keep on fighting. Its good for ukraine. Few more year russia will surrender.
Slava ukrainian

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