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Apr 6 2025, 10:45 PM, updated 9 months ago
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Apr 6 2025, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Apr 6 2025, 10:45 PM) Hi, Since already default. Cut their electric and water, revoke all access card(if it's condo type)I rented my unit to a tenant for the past 3 years plus.. The story is during the first 2 years of the tenancy period, we did sign an agreement however, I didn’t sign any agreement with them from the 3rd year onwards as they have been paying consistently until the recent 3 months where they defaulted.. I would like to ask if anyone know if I can chase them out since there is already no tenancy agreement now as they are consider trespassing? Thanks? Once they are not at home, go in dump all their item out the house and change the lock. Since no agreement they have no right to stay at your house without your permission. |
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Apr 6 2025, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Apr 6 2025, 10:45 PM) Hi, Did you check with them if they have difficulty since he's been renting for couple of years.I rented my unit to a tenant for the past 3 years plus.. The story is during the first 2 years of the tenancy period, we did sign an agreement however, I didn’t sign any agreement with them from the 3rd year onwards as they have been paying consistently until the recent 3 months where they defaulted.. I would like to ask if anyone know if I can chase them out since there is already no tenancy agreement now as they are consider trespassing? Thanks? My tenant defaulted then i checked with him if he have issues then found out that he was scammed a big sum of money. Then worked out with him a payment plan and he committed to it. Pepelepewwwww and ecrl liked this post
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Apr 6 2025, 11:18 PM
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Defaulted as in no payment at all or delayed?
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Apr 6 2025, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(Satori 14118a @ Apr 6 2025, 11:18 PM) No payment at all for the past 3 months..I know if got agreement, we need to go court to apply eviction order but since I didn’t sign any tenancy agreement extension with them after it expired 1 year plus ago, I wonder if can I just chase them out |
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Apr 6 2025, 11:44 PM
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Try communicate with your tenant first.
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Apr 6 2025, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Apr 6 2025, 11:00 PM) Did you check with them if they have difficulty since he's been renting for couple of years. They did share with me that they have financial difficulties which is why I didn’t chase them out and gave them almost 3 months to pay..My tenant defaulted then i checked with him if he have issues then found out that he was scammed a big sum of money. Then worked out with him a payment plan and he committed to it. I am fed up now because they promised to at least settle the utility bills today but they didn’t do so and when I tried calling them, they didn’t bother to answer.. This post has been edited by adam1190: Apr 6 2025, 11:52 PM |
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Apr 7 2025, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Apr 6 2025, 11:46 PM) They did share with me that they have financial difficulties which is why I didn’t chase them out and gave them almost 3 months to pay.. you are not responsible for their lack of financial planning, and the outcome shouldn't affect you.I am fed up now because they promised to at least settle the utility bills today but they didn’t do so and when I tried calling them, they didn’t bother to answer.. CUT THEM OFF asap because leeches become too strong and take over your place without mercy - without mercy = THROW CEMENT INTO YOUR TOILET BOWL. never be too kind when it comes to business. adam1190 liked this post
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Apr 7 2025, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Apr 7 2025, 12:46 AM) They did share with me that they have financial difficulties which is why I didn’t chase them out and gave them almost 3 months to pay.. sometimes it's not worth it to give pity I am fed up now because they promised to at least settle the utility bills today but they didn’t do so and when I tried calling them, they didn’t bother to answer.. you need to act like what posted in #2, and cut it off immediately. What if they rake up even more utilities bill? You will bear even more loss after that. adam1190 liked this post
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Apr 7 2025, 10:30 AM
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![]() Their financial planning is not your concern. U gave them enough leeway. Usually tell them to move out in 2 weeks and telan the deposite. Rest of the debt kira as charity. Depends if they kurang ajar or not, sometimes can even offer to help them hire moving company. If u go too harsh on them they will start asking around and many internet hero will advice them how to fuck over the landlord, if u go through legal route it could take 3-6 months for proper eviction. As Sun Tzu said. Dont press a desperate foe too hard. They will fight u tooth n nail. Always leave a route out for them to choose. |
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Apr 7 2025, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Apr 7 2025, 10:30 AM) ![]() Their financial planning is not your concern. U gave them enough leeway. Usually tell them to move out in 2 weeks and telan the deposite. Rest of the debt kira as charity. Depends if they kurang ajar or not, sometimes can even offer to help them hire moving company. If u go too harsh on them they will start asking around and many internet hero will advice them how to fuck over the landlord, if u go through legal route it could take 3-6 months for proper eviction. As Sun Tzu said. Dont press a desperate foe too hard. They will fight u tooth n nail. Always leave a route out for them to choose. |
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Apr 7 2025, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Apr 7 2025, 12:55 PM) Yea I thought they have been paying promptly for the past 3 years, so trusted their words, anyway it is what is is now, the legal route is just too time consuming.. the only way to get them out is to cut the electricity now.. Whatever you want to do, be it cut utility, asking them to move out etc give them a written notice with time bar, failing which you will 1, 2 and so on. adam1190 liked this post
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Apr 8 2025, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 7 2025, 06:21 AM) you are not responsible for their lack of financial planning, and the outcome shouldn't affect you. Can’t we report police if they throw cement into toilet bowl ?CUT THEM OFF asap because leeches become too strong and take over your place without mercy - without mercy = THROW CEMENT INTO YOUR TOILET BOWL. never be too kind when it comes to business. |
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Apr 8 2025, 01:22 PM
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better consult with a lawyer because sometimes your action can backfire
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Apr 8 2025, 01:31 PM
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Apr 8 2025, 01:37 PM
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Apr 8 2025, 01:43 PM
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Apr 8 2025, 01:54 PM
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vandalism private property criminal offence or not?
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Apr 8 2025, 01:55 PM
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Apr 8 2025, 01:57 PM
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Apr 8 2025, 02:00 PM
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Instead asking from K
why not you direct call tenant and found out what is the problem? Ask nicely Talk nicely |
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Apr 8 2025, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Apr 8 2025, 02:00 PM) Instead asking from K why not you direct call tenant and found out what is the problem? Ask nicely Talk nicely QUOTE(adam1190 @ Apr 6 2025, 11:46 PM) They did share with me that they have financial difficulties which is why I didn’t chase them out and gave them almost 3 months to pay.. I am fed up now because they promised to at least settle the utility bills today but they didn’t do so and when I tried calling them, they didn’t bother to answer.. |
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Apr 8 2025, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Apr 8 2025, 02:55 PM) Wonder if I can choose to stay in the unit together with them haha since can’t evict them without court order I began to think this is a kopitiam posting instead of serious one.Anyway, Cut your lose quick and swiftly. Cut the utilities, lock up the door when you sure there are no one inside. Please double, tripled check before you lock up the property. Anytime anyone tries to break open your property, you hv the right to call the guard or authority. |
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Apr 8 2025, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(genesic @ Apr 8 2025, 02:12 PM) I began to think this is a kopitiam posting instead of serious one. Cause I feel the law is too one sided, kind of give up already.. cause apparently not allowed to lock the door without eviction order and their belongings is still inside..Anyway, Cut your lose quick and swiftly. Cut the utilities, lock up the door when you sure there are no one inside. Please double, tripled check before you lock up the property. Anytime anyone tries to break open your property, you hv the right to call the guard or authority. Anyway already submitted request to close the tnb account , waiting for electricity disconnection.. Wanted to give them more mercy but the fact they don’t bother to reply your messages when I ask for payment status despite of them not paying according to their promised deadline and will only reply when mentioned about the electricity disconnection really pissed me off.. This post has been edited by adam1190: Apr 8 2025, 02:20 PM |
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Apr 8 2025, 02:17 PM
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Then ask nicely to get them moving out by next month and say there is new tenant coming in.
He paid you for 3 straight years without any hassle, I would close one eye for it. Atleast you're still holding their deposit. TS are making mistake by 1. Did not check your account monthly regularly 2. Did not renew the contract 3. Did not assign utility bills to tenant's name Remember there is always a risk doing property rental business. |
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Apr 8 2025, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Apr 8 2025, 02:16 PM) Cause I feel the law is too one sided, kind of give up already.. cause apparently not allowed to lock the door without eviction order and their belongings is still inside.. For my client case, they are not picking up or replying msgs. But I would still send instruction/actions that im going to take for next.Anyway already submitted request to close the tnb account , waiting for electricity disconnection.. Wanted to give them more mercy but the fact they don’t bother to reply your messages ask for payment status when they promised to pay by certain deadline and will only reply when mentioned about the electricity disconnection really pissed me off.. 1. It's okay not to reply, but im going to do xxx xxx by this weekend 2. I have done xxxx, please follow xxxx 3. Last resort are xxxx, I will remove everything on that date. Obviously these people has financial issue already, make good abit TS. |
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Apr 8 2025, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Apr 8 2025, 02:17 PM) Then ask nicely to get them moving out by next month and say there is new tenant coming in. I got check my monthly account, just that thought they will pay eventually since their previous payment record is good..He paid you for 3 straight years without any hassle, I would close one eye for it. Atleast you're still holding their deposit. TS are making mistake by 1. Did not check your account monthly regularly 2. Did not renew the contract 3. Did not assign utility bills to tenant's name Remember there is always a risk doing property rental business. Actually if you say didn’t renew the contract, then supposedly I no longer bound to the terms and condition of the previous contract ? But as far as I know, the same terms still apply as long as my tenant got continue paying the rent and I continue to take it.. As for utility bills not assigning to tenant name, previously I was told that even if assign the utility bills to tenant name, if he doesn’t pay up, I can’t open any new account under the same property address, same goes to the Internet service where each unit can only have one name registered to it.. |
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Apr 8 2025, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Apr 8 2025, 02:21 PM) For my client case, they are not picking up or replying msgs. But I would still send instruction/actions that im going to take for next. Yea but they are so snobbish, if talk nicely, we can deal nicely, when I ask them why they didn’t pay according to their promised payment deadline, they ignore you.. 1. It's okay not to reply, but im going to do xxx xxx by this weekend 2. I have done xxxx, please follow xxxx 3. Last resort are xxxx, I will remove everything on that date. Obviously these people has financial issue already, make good abit TS. |
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Apr 8 2025, 04:38 PM
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you have given them 3 months notice. Just send a whatapps, you will cut power and water in 3 days. and please move by when. then when go apartment , be accompanied by security or police.
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