From vios, harrier to alphard nampak semua macam cvt? Tahan lasak ke?

This post has been edited by swanlover: Mar 21 2025, 01:45 PM

New Camry also mcm CVT...e-cvt

Got choices?

No choice. Almost all sub 200HP petrol cars uses CVT just to pass new fuel economy rating and CO2 rating. If CO2 is to be 0% that means petrol cars of any kind are gone. The only reason why CVT is not used on cars above 200HP is reliability.

arent eCVT the best kind out there?

E-CVT not real CVT it is for Hybrid car use it doesn't have the chain, e CVT mean electronic control the gear box let you feel like a CVT

Manual Transmission > ALL

I'll stick with planetary gears duly synchromeshed.

Toyota CVT is fine.

Asal bukan Jatco

aisin CVT no issue

jatco CVT better pray hard

Subaru got CVT for higher performance rides (WRX, Levorg, Outback/Forester/Legacy XT), it depends on the manufacturer want or not to go all out.
Most just want to cut cost and go for the cheaper options.

FYI, CVT were banned in F1 and F1 engine is not small in hp also.
https://racingnews365.com/the-dutch-inventi...car-ever-by-far

This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 21 2025, 01:58 PM

My Exora also CVT. No feeling and noisy.

my dick is duly synchromeshed.

Every descent (non-MY) car now is CVT. Otherwise, manual where don't even have choise in MY.

Like or no like, kena pakai!

This post has been edited by new in IT: Mar 21 2025, 02:00 PM

Newer Jatco CVT gearbox already very less issue, FYI late Mitsubishi Lancer/Proton Inspira also using Jatco CVT but not much issue also.


This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 21 2025, 02:00 PM

ayam used to own inspira and ayam tell you that jatco cvt need to be pampered else will throw tantrum

imagine how unreliable it is for previous batch of CVT

My 11 years city with CVT is still running like a charm.

ALL CVT has to be pampered...not matter what brand and manufacturer

u abuse it, u can kiss your wallet goodbye

not even the almighty audi CVT should be abused based on workshop, it would still eventually break
and u also cannot mod your engine to have more power than the gearbox's tolerance rate

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Mar 21 2025, 02:10 PM

If you look at all the subaru models you posted, all the base egines is under 200HP. It is not about the brand. Once it breaches 200HP a full AT or MT transmission is used. It is just mechanical limitation of a design.

If high RPM, CVT really syok to drive

pakai jalan biasa ok, pergi Sepang vroom vroom jaga sikit

Bro, newer WRX/Levorg is using 2.4T engine. That engine FA24F around 191 kW (256 hp; 260 PS)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Levorg#VN

tractor use cvt transmission you know

their power rating is like 400 HP

Problem with CVT is too shiok to drive, everyone will drive like cheesebuy.

If you drive like cheesebuy, all transmission will also tend to die prematurely.

Many claims CVT is weak, cooling issues plus sekali putus mampus. If you are the type keep pushing the car…Cepat koyak, I dunno , betul ke?

This post has been edited by swanlover: Mar 21 2025, 02:16 PM

CVT = syok?
huhhhhhhhh?

u should go to those transmission repair shops and see how many CVT steel belt putus and need to replace the steel belt

If you dont know what is the limitation of each technology, even AT gearbox also can gone case. You see those gearbox got issue 1 try see how their owners drive & maintain their rides. My mechanic place got some owners even with Toyota Camry 4AT gearbox can drive until rosak, when ask how they drive most feedback they usually all pedal to metal everytime at traffic light or when traffic no other cars...

This post has been edited by littlefire: Mar 21 2025, 02:20 PM

Yes, powerful and smooth, no gear shift jerk.

Too smooth that everyone will tend to press heavier on the accelerator.

My previous car using CVT for 12 years no problem until I sold it.

Only need to get used to the whirring sounds.

Now the only affordable car brand with conventional AT is Mazda.

my reaction same as him. Huhhhhhh? hahaha

I am sort of anti CVT

Why would anyone like the feeling of CVT?

still got ..just more tahan than jatco n honda

where is the syok part?

Toyota is ok much bigger the size
The new e Cvt by Toyota much better no need belt only gear

Powerful, especially when climbing hill

CVT strength usually is on mid-range RPM, as it can varies the torque & gear ratio efficiently. If driven in a track/road with a lot of corners or with low or high ground (example: Hill roads), CVT would benefit a lot as no need to change gear often like normal AT gearbox.

Cvt say more fuel ⛽ if going long distance

Even new alza 1.5l look like very underpowered they pair with dcvt quite ok .The car won t have the feeling like 4 at keep changing gear when going mountain like genting highland

agree on the climbing hill part

I understand about the FC.
What I don't understand is "to let owner feel like driving CVT" part. Why would manufacture let owners feel they're driving CV with the rubber band effect if it's not CVT?

No comment on d-cvt. But I believe it is not a conventional CVT

The eCVT only for hybrid models, while normal Toyota ICE engine using D-CVT.
Toyota D-CVT also consider very advance in CVT technology as combine both gear & belt also.
If not mistaken Perodua/Daihatsu also using similar D-CVT technology but different activation mode.

No Gear is the best like EV. Less moving parts, less parts breaks the system.

Anything CVT in last 10 12 years will outlast the car

D for durable CVT?

Yes, Toyota/Perdoua/Daihatsu D-CVT gearbox is not normal CVT. It got combination of gear & belt, not like traditional CVT only belt.

As long as its toyota or honda, it will last long as long u dont modify and use fake oils and use it for racing in sepang

This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Mar 21 2025, 02:33 PM

kalau kereta baru, janji dlm 5 thn tu masuk bengkel ori service on time should be ok,

Cukur i pakai ecvt

S70 kan ada

hill road with 4 at usually u kena ..1st gear too powerful but cannot go fast ; shift to 2nd then underpower cannot push have to move down to 1st gear again

CVT patch the gap by having 1.5 gear* with more power loss than 4AT

Smooth ma

Bro, google la de.

Direct Shift-CVT

DCVT - primary used by some low/mid end of toyota/perodua and daihatsu model (front end pure cvt ; last ratio is physical gear)

Toyota direct shift (like new harrier, latest voxy - basically model that used dynamic force engine + cvt) - launch/first with actual gear ; 2nd gear till end is belt

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 21 2025, 02:39 PM

actually the "D" stands for Dual

Many said Honda cvt is better than Toyota as it emphasized on belt quality to withstand tons of pressure.

Lastime Honda only use highly durable belt strictly made by Bosch, now not sure maybe cut corner already…

This post has been edited by swanlover: Mar 21 2025, 02:39 PM

i cannot find the video but earlier there are 1 workshop at selangor that expert in rebuild cvt gearbox

so far the honda belt is weakest compared to other like toyota ..

most bagus/strong belt/chain is from Audi (yes ..certain model like audi a4 1.8 used cvt)

Aisin cvt ok

Punch cvt u prepare your wallet

if youre not driving the car like a racing driver dont see why it matters lol

usually these cars with CVTs are econoboxes anyway

CVT problems usually happens when u drive the car not the way its meant for

This post has been edited by bigmac999: Mar 21 2025, 02:45 PM

punch cvt terrible driving experience, but seldom heard it breakdown. compare with jatco cvt

What car on Jatco cvt? That bad?

Nah, ppl lenjan those CVTs with BOT at 0.8 bar rilek je. Honda CVTs meanwhile...

The rubber band effect is sian lo. I prefer 6-speed conventional auto.

honda is power of dream yo, say no more

Some say Toyota use 7 speed Cvt the mechanism inside is reverse dcvt
7 speed use manual gear 0-60km then 60 kmabove use Cvt
Dcvt 0-60km use Cvt above 60km use manual gear

Nissan

For layman, it means more durable CVT lar.. hahahaha.

Direct Cvt
Means 1 using Cvt another 1 is manual gear

This post has been edited by TAN WENG: Mar 21 2025, 03:04 PM

Not really if kaki lenjam also will putus saw some YouTube n TikTok those gearbox specialist says they have customers using dcvt myvi,ativa steel belt putus

Asal bukan jetco Dan tumbuk

Reduce rempit and their nuisance.

What’s wrong with all those ah beng want the shocks? Ayam rike cvt smoothness ride.

Tumbuk is reliable only the one Proton use too many power lost

not really

imho

punch cvt used clutch or direct connect which suppose to have lesser power loss compared to using torque converter

but the bad part of using direct connect is the start stop jerk during crawling traffic


newer punch cvt (post exora) generally quite reliable other than stupid start stop jerk

but of course the chain will still putus when you reach particular mileage

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 21 2025, 03:34 PM

And need to let the clutch be fully engaged before tekan minyak from stationary, else jerks.

yup

What is rubber band effect? Heard a lot about this for cvt, but not sure what it means

EV or manual lor

my city cvt still ok after 8 years...

you should be more worried about honda today

honda < jatco, tumbuk < toyota < subaru, audi

Cbt is the best

Punch CVT after 150k km need to check and if necessary, overhaul. Very likely the DMS will kaput first.

you're referring to 1.5L civic CVT
that one has slightly thicker belt

rest is not
and even that it's still weakest of all

when honda CVT belt snap, the belt they try to replaced back is using the 1.5L civic CVT belt and not use back the original

When accelerate will slow to response and when let go accelerator will pull you back like rubber band

Edit : pull back as in pull and release multiple time

This post has been edited by dexeric: Mar 21 2025, 04:41 PM

So you would need a tractor sized one to work right?

Toyota dcvt higher end - direct shift cvt (lower gear real gear, funal drive cvt)
Toyota velos dcvt - direct cvt (first gear real gear, second and above cvt)
Perodua dcvt - dual cvt (first to nth gear cvt, final drive real gear)

d-cvt is just normal cvt + one actual gear once you reach certain speed so that your cvt belt don't wear out fast

myb pun gune CVT skrg .. god car gune xde hal

Perodua dcvt only up to 150Nm, highest rating engine is 138Nm, as long as drive normally should not be issue.
So better don't mod engine and push the transmission as it is on its limit.

You tekan minyak, you hear loud engine noise, rpm naik but car doesn't pick up straight away.

If CVT so good, Hilux and LC500 will use it too.

CB.

CVT is like the automotive woke generation disease nonsense.

Toyota eCVT more reliable than auto and manual

There is no clutch

Just planetary gear with the electric motor varying the gear ratio or receiving power or sending power in association with the engine

Edit:
Regular CVT is worse than auto.
The chain or rubber itself can fail

This post has been edited by sakuraboo: Mar 21 2025, 06:05 PM

LOL, CVT is everywhere, what can you choose? manual?

Mine is opposite.

Tekan minyak, rpm stays constant but speed picks up

4AT>CVT/DCT/MT

got.. go EV, no cvt..