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 Shopping Mall Rental Issue, Letter offer vs Tenancy Agreement

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KitZhai
post Mar 14 2025, 02:22 PM

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With what reason they delay the tenancy agreement? 4 months? This thing if delay couple of weeks also bising edi.


KitZhai
post Mar 14 2025, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Mar 14 2025, 03:29 PM)
The standard practice is you start renovation according to the handover and fit out date stated in the LO. Don't need to wait for TA.

Don't tell me 4 months already you still not yet start your renovation. If I landlord I also find other tenant.
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What if tenant proceed to do renovation all everything.

Then owner decided not to rent. And reimburse back the previous deposit? Like cheating the tenant to make free renovations to them
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post Mar 14 2025, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ Mar 14 2025, 03:58 PM)
Wait why kena wait for Tenancy Agreement?
Last time I got letter offer got written there must complete renovation do everything by a specified "Commencement Date".

Retail lot for mall tenancy also.
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Imagine like this, tenant do all renovation. Then owner gostan don't wanna rent. Owner decided to get himself penalty only by giving back the tenant the deposit and the rental as compensation.
KitZhai
post Mar 14 2025, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Mar 14 2025, 04:55 PM)
Then it's a breach of contract by the landlord and they can be sued for compensation on loss or damages caused by it.
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In the offer letter, standard one it normally write that if the owner refuse to rent after signing the offer letter, owner has to compensate, returning the previous deposit and further paying 1 month rental cost to tenant. But it didn't mention about the renovation that has been done in the meantime period.

Damn dispute one
KitZhai
post Mar 14 2025, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 14 2025, 05:46 PM)
you renovate your shop let say, to show Osim products, but new tenant come in is Maxis.

sure have to demolish lah.

All different interior design la
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What if the landlord sendiri want to run that business?

Yeah U already wanna show osim. So he wants to take over everything, kick U out and sendiri operate his osim
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post Mar 14 2025, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Mar 14 2025, 07:44 PM)
You didn't answer the questions I posted.

In the LO, it didn't state the time frame to sign the TA ?  In a tenancy, landlords normally don't allow tenants to take possession of premise without the TA. So in your case, it was an exception.

Did the LO stated that tenant are allowed to proceed reno pending TA ?
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This, in LO, it should have stated :-

When to pay the balance deposit,
When to grant vacant possession,
When to sign tenancy agreement.

We really need to have a look on that LO so justify this case
KitZhai
post Mar 15 2025, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(eldenring @ Mar 15 2025, 01:21 PM)
When to pay the balance deposit, - paid all
When to grant vacant possession, - handedover half / not complete handover
When to sign tenancy agreement - no mention when they issue TA
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The LO itself is from the mall management? It seems like not beneficial to the tenant side... They should have stated everything out clearly like the LO we property agency are providing
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post Mar 15 2025, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 15 2025, 05:53 PM)
chances of that happening is very low and quite coincidental.

besides, if you are the landlord with osim dealership, why would you give rental to another osim dealership then change your mind?
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Free renovation. Assuming renovation cost 500k.
Then rental there penalty back to tenant 50k

 

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