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post Mar 14 2025, 12:01 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Is Vivo X200 Pro currently one of the best camera phones, if not the best? I've seen samples and comparisons to other top-of-the-range phones such as Xiaomi top-spec Ultra(forgotten the model), Samsung top model etc. and the X200 Pro seems to come up tops for overall best image quality in low light and daylight, macro close-up shots and zoom functions.
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post Apr 12 2025, 11:47 PM

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You may want to check out the DXO ranking
https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/
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post Apr 14 2025, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Jojolin @ Apr 12 2025, 11:47 PM)
You may want to check out the DXO ranking
https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/
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DXO ratings are overrated, Apple phones sit near the top of rankings when the quality of photography is worse than some of the phones which sit at the bottom of the list, and moreover the phone model of this thread is not listed in the link.
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post Apr 15 2025, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Apr 14 2025, 04:00 PM)
DXO ratings are overrated, Apple phones sit near the top of rankings when the quality of photography is worse than some of the phones which sit at the bottom of the list, and moreover the phone model of this thread is not listed in the link.
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I have to disagree.

If we are taking about SOOC, iPhone usually has the most natural looking photos, the white balance and colours are usually on point.
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post Apr 16 2025, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Apr 15 2025, 12:39 PM)
I have to disagree.

If we are taking about SOOC, iPhone usually has the most natural looking photos, the white balance and colours are usually on point.
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No issue. I mainly judge the clarity and noise in low light conditions, and this is where the iphone fails with its smallish sensor. Perhaps the latest version of the iPhone is improved I"m not sure but when compared to most flagship phones the iPHone usually comes up short.
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post Apr 20 2025, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Apr 16 2025, 12:36 PM)
No issue. I mainly judge the clarity and noise in low light conditions, and this is where the iphone fails with its smallish sensor. Perhaps the latest version of the iPhone is improved I"m not sure but when compared to most flagship phones the iPHone usually comes up short.
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TBH, most pics/videos taken from mobile will be viewed on mobile.Thus, differences will be really negligible and hard to distinguish in moderate to good lighting condition. In addition diff manufacturer have diff process algorithm so some would prefer Vivo, some Samsung, some Apple. Not so much about physical lens or camera capability.

I think what really differentiates top grade camera from usually flagship would be sub-par lighting and these photos are rarely snapped and uploaded.

So for me lah, since most flagship are similarly priced, i would put higher preferences to quality, speed and longevity of support especially security updates. Thats where banking transactions are done, payment, QR, trading and tracking money/invt, etc etc are done consistently and frequently.


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post Apr 20 2025, 06:10 PM

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For the last 3-4 years Vivo had positioned itself as one of the top camera phone contender, after Huawei's sanction.

But generally when comes to pictures, it also need to fit individual preference, so I normally take as all the top 4 or 5 are pretty good camera phones.

https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/vivo-x200-pro...est-april-2025/
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post Apr 21 2025, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Apr 20 2025, 06:10 PM)
For the last 3-4 years Vivo had positioned itself as one of the top camera phone contender, after Huawei's sanction.

But generally when comes to pictures, it also need to fit individual preference, so I normally take as all the top 4 or 5 are pretty good camera phones.

https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/vivo-x200-pro...est-april-2025/
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Reviews like these and those posted on Youtube are useful, genuine reviews and not manipulated to make certain cameras to look better when it's worse in real life. Assuming it's legitimate, I'm surprised the iPhone 16 Pro Max presumably the latest flagship model from Apple compares favourably to the Vivo X200 Pro and Xiaomi 15 Ultra where both these China phones have large 1-inch type sensors which will produce superior image quality in low-light shots. Perhaps the sensor in the iPhone has been noticeably increased in size as the previous generation iPhones have been known to produce dismal quality in photography.
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QUOTE(cms @ Apr 20 2025, 05:18 PM)
TBH, most pics/videos taken from mobile will be viewed on mobile.Thus, differences will be really negligible and hard to distinguish in moderate to good lighting condition. In addition diff manufacturer have diff process algorithm so some would prefer Vivo, some Samsung, some Apple. Not so much about physical lens or camera capability.

I think what really differentiates top grade camera from usually flagship would be sub-par lighting and these photos are rarely snapped and uploaded.

So for me lah, since most flagship are similarly priced, i would put higher preferences to quality, speed and longevity of support especially security updates. Thats where banking transactions are done, payment, QR, trading and tracking money/invt, etc etc are done consistently and frequently.
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Yes, differences with pictures and videos taken by camera phones are usually quite negligible especially when shared via Whatsapp even in HD mode or precious moments of families and kids saved in portable hard drives. If one doesn't compare, they all look the same with minor differences in colour accuracy, clarity, or sharpness. However, if one is to compare the photos side-by-side viewed on a computer monitor, the differences are usually noticeable especially in low light shots say indoors in a shopping mall or restaurant in dim light, or during night time interior or exterior shots. In most situations, the camera with a smaller sensor will produce a noisier image with reduced clarity and sharpness while the camera with a larger sensor will produce less noise with better clarity.

I agree, a phone is not entirely about the camera as nowadays the smartphone is an indispensable tool to carry out daily activities where people carry them around not only every day but almost every time of the day, from communication via Whatsapp to banking activities etc. Nevertheless, for me the camera of a phone remains as one of the most important features that I look at, and as we all know only flagship phones have the best cameras, unfortunately. Most phones including basic phones are more or less acceptable in terms of performance in all other areas and will have support for a considerable period. All phones will become obsolete or discontinued support eventually replaced by new models, so it's not a problem for me. My existing Huawei Mate 20X is already more than 4 years and it still has support for most apps. Only one or two apps such as Air Selangor have no more support but payments for bills can still be made. For me, I think the phone will be replaced by a new phone not because there is no more support for apps, but because it has become too old or some buttons fail to function that may encourage the user to find a new phone with improved specs.
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post Apr 21 2025, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Apr 20 2025, 06:10 PM)
For the last 3-4 years Vivo had positioned itself as one of the top camera phone contender, after Huawei's sanction.

But generally when comes to pictures, it also need to fit individual preference, so I normally take as all the top 4 or 5 are pretty good camera phones.

https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/vivo-x200-pro...est-april-2025/
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I've bought a Vivo X90 Pro last year. I think I'll likely skip the X200 Pro and hopefully the replacement will retain all the goodness of the X200 Pro but increase the sensor size to 1-inch type that I suspect will boost the low-light performance even more. Perhaps the replacement for the X200 Pro will be the X200 ultra or X300 Pro, due to launch by end of this year or next year 2026.
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Apr 21 2025, 08:37 AM)
I've bought a Vivo X90 Pro last year. I think I'll likely skip the X200 Pro and hopefully the replacement will retain all the goodness of the X200 Pro but increase the sensor size to 1-inch type that I suspect will boost the low-light performance even more. Perhaps the replacement for the X200 Pro will be the X200 ultra or X300 Pro, due to launch by end of this year or next year 2026.
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I guess we are almost on the same boat! My older Mate 20 pro, still works well, but it doesnt get the security patch anymore, hence I cant use it for office and other high sensitivity towards security.
Hence moved to X80p almost 3 yrs ago, most of my office gatherings, they would request me to pictures instead of their brand new phones! lol

I will move out from x80p once the security patches stops.
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Apr 21 2025, 08:50 AM)
I guess we are almost on the same boat! My older Mate 20 pro, still works well, but it doesnt get the security patch anymore, hence I cant use it for office and other high sensitivity towards security.
Hence moved to X80p almost 3 yrs ago, most of my office gatherings, they would request me to pictures instead of their brand new phones! lol

I will move out from x80p once the security patches stops.
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Yes. My Mate 20X still works well, everything is intact except the on/off and volume control button at the side of the phone which have been damaged, likely because the phone has been thrown more than 100 times by my mischievous niece when she was 2+ years old. As I don't like wastage ie. discarding something that still works albeit with minor flaws, I have continued to use the phone as is. Perhaps I'll just switch to the Vivo X90 Pro by end of the month and let my niece use my battered Huawei phone, although she already had few old phones to play with already.

Currently Vivo phones appeal to me the most due to the design and camera. Oppo and Xiaomi phones, not so much mainly due to the design, and also I prefer the Vivo's Zeiss over Xiaomi's Leica sample images. I used to be a Huawei fan but after the company moved from Android to their own platform, I have abandoned ship. The latest Huawei phones also don't appear to have a great camera module when compared to Vivo and the rest.

This post has been edited by ryder_78: Apr 21 2025, 11:10 AM
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post Apr 21 2025, 11:12 AM

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oppo is not bad too and the software is much better than vivo's

go for oppo find x8pro or x8
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post Apr 26 2025, 12:51 AM

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The Vivo X200 Pro - although not yet listed in rank - for me, tops the chart. Just go ahead and see samples and reviews on the internet, photo wise, I believe its #1 worldwide. Videos are good, but probably iPhone leads the win. Past raya, I didn't even bother to bring my DSLR and just shot everything with the Vivo. Amazing detail even if you zoom in. And it really saves me time since the pictures are already processed and (for me) color graded + beautify. No need for me to tweak it in lightroom anymore. Btw don't let the X200 pro 1/1.4-inch sensor fools you. It is better than the X100 ultra 1 inch. Although of course, don't expect it to beat my full frame DSLR in terms of resolution.

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QUOTE(neato4u @ Apr 26 2025, 12:51 AM)
The Vivo X200 Pro - although not yet listed in rank - for me, tops the chart. Just go ahead and see samples and reviews on the internet, photo wise, I believe its #1 worldwide. Videos are good, but probably iPhone leads the win. Past raya, I didn't even bother to bring my DSLR and just shot everything with the Vivo. Amazing detail even if you zoom in. And it really saves me time since the pictures are already processed and (for me) color graded + beautify. No need for me to tweak it in lightroom anymore. Btw don't let the X200 pro 1/1.4-inch sensor fools you. It is better than the X100 ultra 1 inch. Although of course, don't expect it to beat my full frame DSLR in terms of resolution.
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Good to know. IT is amazing that the X200 Pro with a smaller sensor can outperform phones which are equipped with a 1-inch type sensor. I'm not sure about the video quality of the X200 Pro but to me, the X100 Pro and X90 Pro's video quality is already stellar, scoring top marks. If the X200 Pro's video quality is almost the same as its predecessor's quality, it should be good enough. I don't know about iPhone but good to note that its video quality is better than the X200 pro.

For me, photos (image quality) is more important than video quality. Having said that, the video quality of my lowly X90 Pro is already excellent, so I'm not sure how the newer phones (X100 Pro and X200 Pro) manage to improve video quality. It's the image quality that can still improve, and to me it's mostly in low light performance apart from zoom features. Most lesser phones will produce less impressive photos in low light shooting conditions such as dim lighting in indoors, supermarket or restaurant etc. or during night time outside the streets.

Yes, I have read many reviews and response here on this thread that the smaller X200 Pro's sensor produce better results than the 1-inch type sensor in the X100 Pro or Ultra. Smartphones have come a long way, and it is surely useful that today's flagship phones such as the X200 Pro can take such impressive photos (and videos), beating compact cameras which are now close to obsolete. Only DSLR will still have a place but for casual photographers such as myself, a phone with a good camera is more than good enough.

10 or 15 years ago one cannot expect a phone to produce comparable performance to say a Sony RX100 compact or Fujifilm X100. But now it appears that it's already achievable.
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