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 BREAK: China Finally Has EUV Machine

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silverhawk
post Mar 9 2025, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Mar 9 2025, 05:16 PM)
They see it coming
Ned not keen to sanction.. but US gave pressure
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This would have happened with or without the sanction.

You think China so good continue to depend on ASML machine?
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post Mar 9 2025, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Mar 9 2025, 10:29 PM)
true. but without sanction, they may take their own time to develop it and asml still can earn damn alot from that sales.
now due to sanction, they got to push for development and asml dont get to earn from china ady.
if china euv machine good enough to sell globally, say good bye to asml ady
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China also not stupid wan la, they wouldn't have been taking their time to develop it. They know it can be pulled at anytime and they also don't like the dependency.

If anything, sanction slow down their progress a little bit because can't get their hands on latest tech to learn more. Everything else was likely already in R&D.
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post Mar 10 2025, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Mar 9 2025, 10:59 PM)
but surprisingly they are going the other way with different tech than asml.
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Kind of prove my point right, you think they only started this track when kena sanction meh? It was already in the works.

Don't be surprised if there are many different teams doing different approaches. One of them will be a team that's reverse engineering ASML's stuff.

They got lucky their other teams produced results.

 

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