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post Mar 4 2025, 10:39 AM, updated 10 months ago

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Service charges at the Jalan Kuari Crematorium in Cheras, managed by Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL), could go up by a whopping 1,200%.

Shocked by the proposed fee hike – from RM100 to RM1,300 – funeral service providers say it is “unjustifiable and too steep” for the public.

Graceland Funeral Services director Yap Seng Lim said previously, a person would only have to pay RM100 for all services, including cremation and hall usage.

“If the fee hike goes through, the families of the deceased will be charged RM1,000 per cremation and RM300 per day for the crematorium hall.

“This amounts to RM1,300 and is more expensive compared to private crematoriums, which charge between RM800 and RM1,000 for similar services,” he said during a press conference held at the crematorium.

Yap said he only became aware of the proposed price revision when officers from the crematorium’s management office contacted him for an update on his company’s details and bank account information.

“The officers informed us that the fee adjustment was originally set to take effect on March 1 but was postponed,” said Yap.

This is not the only change that is rankling the services providers.

Yap says previously a person only had to pay RM100 for all services.

Fook Yee Funeral Parlour Sdn Bhd chairman Kam Yee Choy questioned the need for a RM1,000 deposit for using the crematorium hall.

“No deposit was required previously. We were also not informed when the money will be refunded.

“We handle an average of 20 cases a month.

“So if we must pay a deposit each time, this could amount to RM20,000 per month if refunds are not processed promptly.

“Furthermore, most families only collect the remains of their loved ones the day after cremation, incurring an additional RM300 for another day of hall usage,” said Kam.

Cheras MP Tan Kok Wai, who was present at the press conference, said the crematorium fees were outlined in the DBKL Rate of Charges Standing Order 2025, a copy of which was sighted by StarMetro.

“The increase is excessive and will place an unnecessary financial burden on grieving families.

“This facility should serve the public, particularly low-income groups, who are still struggling financially.

“I urge Kuala Lumpur mayor Datuk Seri Maimunah Mohd Sharif and Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department (Federal Territories) Dr Zaliha Mustafa to review this matter and engage with stakeholders regarding this price hike,” said Tan.

The Standing Order sets out the payment structure for processing applications, purchases and other services provided by the Kuala Lumpur mayor to the public.

“As far as I know, the Standing Order has not yet been approved by the Attorney-General’s Chambers and I hope the crematorium fees remain unchanged,” added Tan.

In response, sources within DBKL said the mayor had ordered the new fee implementation to be postponed immediately.

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Rokek say inflation still low only 1.7%

Rokek is incompetent corrupt like to lie and fitnah

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Dah mati pun orang charge tinggi-tinggi.

Deswai kena save for your coffin fund.
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DBKL just want to help private businesses with more customers what.
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Dah mati pun kena inflasi


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org mati pun mau kasi milk sampai hbs ah? if malay kasi cremate, sure make noise dy lor...whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ticke @ Mar 4 2025, 10:57 AM)
org mati pun mau kasi milk sampai hbs ah? if malay kasi cremate, sure make noise dy lor...whistling.gif
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dont worry, it same as the price mention even malays dont cremate.
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Rokek property crematorium agent salesman suppork

Rokek logik if cannot afford to die then dun die

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QUOTE(matiko95 @ Mar 4 2025, 11:02 AM)
dont worry, it same as the price mention even malays dont cremate.
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meanwhile selangor want introduce bunga burial. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...-and-recreation
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i see my auntie and uncle put aside 5k just to get burried, have a better altar? what u call batu nisan and kepuk kubur. pay some other service as well. its a been last several decades for this.

but i dont brush aside now 5k is got bilis service.
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No money die also cannot.

Soon poor people will have to dump the body into longkang to save cost. sad.gif
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Get people to donate land, and bury it there.

You know, like a system that currently in use and working so well.
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Mar 4 2025, 11:13 AM)
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this one ayam agree it is too cheap in the first place

and if you have see these funeral service company punya quotation, you will vomit blood i tell you.

so these funeral service company can charge expensive, but flip table when DBKL no longer want to subsidize the cremation service
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The most logical reason would be trying to discourage customers . After all... KL land is getting scarce and there's no end to greed, Just look at how condos are built wih approval from authority without consideration impact to neighbouring residents.


Same like landlord up the rent 1000% to chase tenant away... then wait for willing buyers to come

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QUOTE(Silfer @ Mar 4 2025, 11:03 AM)
meanwhile selangor want introduce bunga burial. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...-and-recreation
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Rokek say throw your ash feed bunga and charge you kawkaw for their 'service'


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QUOTE(Silfer @ Mar 4 2025, 11:03 AM)
meanwhile selangor want introduce bunga burial. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...-and-recreation
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Bangsa C like to scam their own ppl..who came up with this kinda idea? Mati also all kind of fancy package..now dying is serious business..I think Chinese has the most expensive funeral services..To die at least need >20k..think Malay and Indian funeral did not change much in the last 30 years..price increased but process did not change much..
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 4 2025, 12:20 PM)
Bangsa C like to scam their own ppl..who came up with this kinda idea? Mati also all kind of fancy package..now dying is serious business..I think Chinese has the most expensive funeral services..To die at least need >20k..think Malay and Indian funeral did not change much in the last 30 years..price increased but process did not change much..
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you reminded me of umrah scammers preying on religious people and their need to save $$$ for pilgrimage , to the extent of living a frugal life.


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Nirvana and Xiao En ada buat installment package wat..... buy now and pay monthly installments..

TBH, RM100 for all services is wayyyyy too cheap nowadays... including cremation and service hall.... gas, water, electric, workers etc.... all no need money meh... I think even RM1.3K also cheap...

try walk to Nirvana or Xiao En and ask them the 3 days package... from 30K onwards.... they come to your house for the service already from 20K onwards...


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what is the justification for price hike?
burn only, no need to acquire new land or material

scam

inb4, bakar sendiri
inb4, pembakaran terbuka
inb4, kena lipot, body kena sita lol


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RM100 ti RM1300

bare in mind, this is only cremation
this is not yet those land burial that is practiced by all muslim yet....how expensive and scarcer can it became as years go by
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QUOTE(Sukhoi35mkm @ Mar 4 2025, 11:29 AM)
Nirvana and Xiao En ada buat installment package wat..... buy now and pay monthly installments..

TBH, RM100 for all services is wayyyyy too cheap nowadays... including cremation and service hall....  gas, water, electric, workers etc.... all no need money meh... I think even RM1.3K also cheap...

try walk to Nirvana or Xiao En and ask them the 3 days package... from 30K onwards.... they come to your house for the service already from 20K onwards...
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Rokek property burial agent salesman suppork price too low to die if no money just get loan and pay installment

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Mar 4 2025, 11:30 AM)
what is the justification for price hike?
burn only, no need to acquire new land or material

scam

inb4, bakar sendiri
inb4, pembakaran terbuka
inb4, kena lipot, body kena sita lol
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the ol' "my profit has to grow every year"

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QUOTE(Sukhoi35mkm @ Mar 4 2025, 11:29 AM)
Nirvana and Xiao En ada buat installment package wat..... buy now and pay monthly installments..

TBH, RM100 for all services is wayyyyy too cheap nowadays... including cremation and service hall....  gas, water, electric, workers etc.... all no need money meh... I think even RM1.3K also cheap...

try walk to Nirvana or Xiao En and ask them the 3 days package... from 30K onwards.... they come to your house for the service already from 20K onwards...
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this is DBKL financed by KL prop owners/rate payers not a profit making sdn bhd
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 4 2025, 11:20 AM)
Bangsa C like to scam their own ppl..who came up with this kinda idea? Mati also all kind of fancy package..now dying is serious business..I think Chinese has the most expensive funeral services..To die at least need >20k..think Malay and Indian funeral did not change much in the last 30 years..price increased but process did not change much..
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U wish la 20k, simple one put 3 days at funeral parlous with cheap food also near 50k d, those do at home with pork and nice food easily 100k

This not include the burial ground, the land also need to buy, if nirwana another 30k++ not include the tombstone that one another cost.
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Negotiation 101? Make ridiculously high request so that after this nego down to 600% so that it is not as 'steep'?
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QUOTE(reversependulum @ Mar 4 2025, 11:19 AM)
Rokek say throw your ash feed bunga and charge you kawkaw for their 'service'
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ash become fertilizer~

QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 4 2025, 11:20 AM)
Bangsa C like to scam their own ppl..who came up with this kinda idea? Mati also all kind of fancy package..now dying is serious business..I think Chinese has the most expensive funeral services..To die at least need >20k..think Malay and Indian funeral did not change much in the last 30 years..price increased but process did not change much..
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recently read the price for xiaoen for this service is rm1,200. it include cremation which i think is 90% of the cost la. the one you see very mahal one is the rental of hall, food, deco etc. dunno DBKL see the price for this and try to emulate it or not. but rm100 is really cheap for the whole thing.
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Compared to the prices for majority..... this is oppression
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Syukur Indian funeral murah.
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Mar 4 2025, 11:38 AM)
U wish la 20k, simple one put 3 days at funeral parlous with cheap food also near 50k d, those do at home with pork and nice food easily 100k

This not include the burial ground, the land also need to buy, if nirwana another 30k++ not include the tombstone that one another cost.
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So, what if you don't have 50k? What if u cannot afford even the lowest package. What happens then?
Is there any effect on the deceased if they can only afford a cheap package? Will it affect the person's afterlife, reincarnation, or spiritual journey?
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This is nonsense. Where got such increase so high

Tomorow will uturn
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QUOTE(new in IT @ Mar 4 2025, 10:47 AM)
Dah mati pun orang charge tinggi-tinggi.

Deswai kena save for your coffin fund.
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QUOTE(matiko95 @ Mar 4 2025, 11:07 AM)
i see my auntie and uncle put aside 5k just to get burried, have a better altar? what u call batu nisan and kepuk kubur. pay some other service as well. its a been last several decades for this.

but i dont brush aside now 5k is got bilis service.
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5k can get?

when was that? 1970 ?
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Damn nak mati pun mahal.
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GREED

the ol' "my profit has to grow every year"

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Mar 4 2025, 12:10 PM)
this is what happens when you dont get local elections.
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Mar 4 2025, 11:38 AM)
U wish la 20k, simple one put 3 days at funeral parlous with cheap food also near 50k d, those do at home with pork and nice food easily 100k

This not include the burial ground, the land also need to buy, if nirwana another 30k++ not include the tombstone that one another cost.
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Exactly..funeral became a very lucrative business..the commission those jokers get etc..sometimes kesian those without money..treated like shit..given some shitty plot to bury..
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 4 2025, 11:56 AM)
5k can get?

when was that? 1970 ?
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u burried in hotel issit? i talk about muslim
malays burial. not ceremony.
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QUOTE(Sukhoi35mkm @ Mar 4 2025, 11:29 AM)
Nirvana and Xiao En ada buat installment package wat..... buy now and pay monthly installments..

TBH, RM100 for all services is wayyyyy too cheap nowadays... including cremation and service hall....  gas, water, electric, workers etc.... all no need money meh... I think even RM1.3K also cheap...

try walk to Nirvana or Xiao En and ask them the 3 days package... from 30K onwards.... they come to your house for the service already from 20K onwards...
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This, not surprised that T20 /k didn't pick up on this price.
But maybe don't increase until private companies rate lah.
DBKL is a federal gomen entity.
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100 is too cheap to be honest.


But kasi la breakdown of cost y need the increase.
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Mar 4 2025, 01:00 PM)
100 is too cheap to be honest.
But kasi la breakdown of cost y need the increase.
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100 is not the funeral
100 is JUST the cremation itself....JUST turning your body into dust...literally just that

1300 is reasonable? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(new in IT @ Mar 4 2025, 10:47 AM)
Dah mati pun orang charge tinggi-tinggi.

Deswai kena save for your coffin fund.
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QUOTE(new in IT @ Mar 4 2025, 10:47 AM)
Dah mati pun orang charge tinggi-tinggi.

Deswai kena save for your coffin fund.
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QUOTE(Srbn @ Mar 4 2025, 10:39 AM)
Service charges at the Jalan Kuari Crematorium in Cheras, managed by Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL), could go up by a whopping 1,200%.

Shocked by the proposed fee hike – from RM100 to RM1,300 – funeral service providers say it is “unjustifiable and too steep” for the public.

Graceland Funeral Services director Yap Seng Lim said previously, a person would only have to pay RM100 for all services, including cremation and hall usage.

“If the fee hike goes through, the families of the deceased will be charged RM1,000 per cremation and RM300 per day for the crematorium hall.

“This amounts to RM1,300 and is more expensive compared to private crematoriums, which charge between RM800 and RM1,000 for similar services,” he said during a press conference held at the crematorium.

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It's been known since the medieval days that they'll tax all Nons until you all submit to them broke with nothing left.
As the majority grows so will be imposed more until everything turns 100%. Next will be the caste system..

Jizya
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Recently DBKL is becoming profit oriented business

-Parking summon
-Assessment
-Destroy statue/renovation unless u pay
-Now cremation
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Govt must increase brim
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QUOTE(Silfer @ Mar 4 2025, 11:03 AM)
meanwhile selangor want introduce bunga burial. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...-and-recreation
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Xiao En got this type of burial @ tanam ashes without tombstone. RM2,800 sahaja
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Govt must increase brim
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 4 2025, 02:02 PM)
100 is not the funeral
100 is JUST the cremation itself....JUST turning your body into dust...literally just that

1300 is reasonable? rclxub.gif
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I mean it takes alot of burning to turn something to ash, I agree 100 is unreasonable.

Prepping the body and chamber, burn (fuel), clean-up, occasional servicing & maintenance of the furnace feels alot for just 100.

No comment if really 1.3k though.

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 4 2025, 11:33 AM)
RM100 ti RM1300

bare in mind, this is only cremation
this is not yet those land burial that is practiced by all muslim yet....how expensive and scarcer can it became as years go by
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Muslim practise wakaf (donation) for land burial
So the cemetery land you see is wakaf by some other muslim. Some also wakaf the hearse and the grave digger salary etc

We also pay ‘khairat’ kematian fund where the collection fund from the community pays for the burial process

All this due to muslim practise of not monetising death into an industry

Maybe other nons can adopt this practise also
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Screw this government if they go ahead with this. surely its meant to fill someone's pocket
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Screw this government if they go ahead with this. surely its meant to fill someone's pocket
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Not just dead man's land, this year all the places especially Nons cities all city council assessment rates all rose.

Anyone of you landed owners kena?

They are like modern day Jizya taxes.

It's not the federal govt, but local state/city government doing this.
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u burried in hotel issit? i talk about muslim
malays burial. not ceremony.
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how I know. You never said anything about muslim burial until now
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Muslim practise wakaf (donation) for land burial

Maybe other nons can adopt this practise also
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Which means you're implying that Nons should adopt your faith style to enjoy the same cheaper burial costs?

That's an act coercion on others.

You are enjoying cheap at the expense of others subsidizing yours so you tell them if you want cheap as well follow my way?
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 4 2025, 01:50 PM)
how I know. You never said anything about muslim burial until now
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Actually Abrahamic faiths such as Judaism and Muslim is similar. They don't allow cremation or burning because they believe human comes from soil and so the body should return back decomposed into the soil naturally. To burn it into ashes by acceleration is insult to God's natural ways.

But for them the process of burial is much simpler, no coffin just wrap the body and bury because after that the body will blend back with the soil which is the most natural method.

Keeping the ashes and worshiping it is idolistic approach.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Mar 4 2025, 01:14 PM)
It's been known since the medieval days that they'll tax all Nons until you all submit to them broke with nothing left.
As the majority grows so will be imposed more until everything turns 100%. Next will be the caste system..

Jizya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya

Jizyah | Definition & Facts | Britannica
https://www.britannica.com/topic/jizya
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lu kasi potong lu punya 2", convert to islam and on top of that, can enjoice ASB, housing discount 7%, easy access to IPTA & gomen jobs, etc.

I gave you a practical solution, up to you to decide. nod.gif

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Mar 4 2025, 01:57 PM)
Actually Abrahamic faiths such as Judaism and Muslim is similar. They don't allow cremation or burning because they believe human comes from soil and so the body should return back decomposed into the soil naturally. To burn it into ashes by acceleration is insult to God's natural ways.

But for them the process of burial is much simpler, no coffin just wrap the body and bury because after that the body will blend back with the soil which is the most natural method.

Keeping the ashes and worshiping it is idolistic approach.
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land is cheap for now for muslim burials.

But as population increases and less available land in future, we will never know if government can still offer at such low prices.
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100 is not the funeral
100 is JUST the cremation itself....JUST turning your body into dust...literally just that

1300 is reasonable? rclxub.gif
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that is about the price other cremation service provider charged

i am talking about those non for profit type
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100 is not the funeral
100 is JUST the cremation itself....JUST turning your body into dust...literally just that

1300 is reasonable? rclxub.gif
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U need to consider the cremation facilities cost and services to pack your ashes.


U can cremate with 100 only? Possible lower if u do it backyard of your house like open burning trashes.

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 4 2025, 01:58 PM)
don't want kana jizya?

lu kasi potong lu punya 2", convert to islam and on top of that, can enjoice ASB, housing discount 7%, easy access to IPTA & gomen jobs, etc.

I gave you a practical solution, up to you to decide.  nod.gif

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Is that a threat due to your illusional beliefs or what?

Other people owe you a living and subsidy for your way of living convenience?
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 4 2025, 11:20 AM)
Bangsa C like to scam their own ppl..who came up with this kinda idea? Mati also all kind of fancy package..now dying is serious business..I think Chinese has the most expensive funeral services..To die at least need >20k..think Malay and Indian funeral did not change much in the last 30 years..price increased but process did not change much..
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Although this crematory services more like the public sector issue, like food, dying as a Chinese really portrays our price raising culture.

QUOTE(cheryee @ Mar 4 2025, 01:24 PM)
Xiao En got this type of burial @ tanam ashes without tombstone. RM2,800 sahaja
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Other option than Xiao En would be scattering ashes after cremation at Klang River at around half the price.

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it's a community facility
RM100 is too cheap and RM1000-1300 is too steep
maybe meet in between.. this facily is not meant to be profit making or compete against private sector. 200-300 below what private sector charge seems reasonable.

seems like every gov dept is ramping up on fees collection.
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Mar 4 2025, 12:20 PM)
Bangsa C like to scam their own ppl..who came up with this kinda idea? Mati also all kind of fancy package..now dying is serious business..I think Chinese has the most expensive funeral services..To die at least need >20k..think Malay and Indian funeral did not change much in the last 30 years..price increased but process did not change much..
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Chinese Buddhist and Taoist funerals cost the most, and drag on for few days, costing double digit thousands excluding the cost of the plots or columbarium niches.

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Mar 4 2025, 01:46 PM)
Muslim practise wakaf (donation) for land burial
So the cemetery land you see is wakaf by some other muslim. Some also wakaf the hearse and the grave digger salary etc

We also pay ‘khairat’ kematian fund where the collection fund from the community pays for the burial process

All this due to muslim practise of not monetising death into an industry

Maybe other nons can adopt this practise also
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it's not so much about the money
it's every bit about the land

when land is getting scarcer that even living person is hard to live...they want a free piece of land for burial from gov
this is happening all around the world, here will be soon

which is why others moved on to cremation, they understand what the problem is and they came out with a solution
which is to step outside of tradition


QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Mar 4 2025, 02:07 PM)
U need to consider the cremation facilities cost and services to pack your ashes.
U can cremate with 100 only? Possible lower if u do it backyard of your house like open burning trashes.
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u need to read the whole news bro
it's DBKL...subsidized
it's already mention there, at RM1.3k...it's more expensive than private crematoriums

so if you're more expensive than private...thn where did they get the numbers from? laugh.gif

it's the same like saying KKM is more expensive than Gleneagles laugh.gif
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Other option than Xiao En would be scattering ashes after cremation at Klang River at around half the price.
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Not interested on this option. I sudah booked Xiao En Tower of Light as my eternal resting place. Whole family is there so easier for my son to pray in the future.
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Chinese Buddhist and Taoist funerals cost the most, and drag on for few days, costing double digit thousands excluding the cost of the plots or columbarium niches.
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Taoist funerals from Nirvana, A better casket also need top up around 25-30K
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If RM1300 feels expensive, i have a cheaper suggestion. Use own car, send to any nearby beaches / resorts, dump into the sea.
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Tak kan RM100 40 years ago

Now also RM100 kan?

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Which means you're implying that Nons should adopt your faith style to enjoy the same cheaper burial costs?

That's an act coercion on others.

You are enjoying cheap at the expense of others subsidizing yours so you tell them if you want cheap as well follow my way?
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It just a good practise, why so triggered?

The Khairat Kematian is like insurance. You contribute to a fund where once you dead the community will use the money to settle your burial at low cost and avoid your family members to foot the problem. Most of the work in the burial ground is voluntary which lower down the cost. Most important thing it is not monetised.

Maybe the concept helping others and the community is alien to you
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If RM1300 feels expensive, i have a cheaper suggestion. Use own car, send to any nearby beaches / resorts, dump into the sea.
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Next suitable and sensible method throw ashes into the sea.

But please find a more nicer place do it. Not off the shores of port Klang. laugh.gif

Can't they do it at a more beautiful serene and quiet beach.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 4 2025, 02:15 PM)
it's not so much about the money
it's every bit about the land

when land is getting scarcer that even living person is hard to live...they want a free piece of land for burial from gov
this is happening all around the world, here will be soon

which is why others moved on to cremation, they understand what the problem is and they came out with a solution
which is to step outside of tradition
u need to read the whole news bro
it's DBKL...subsidized
it's already mention there, at RM1.3k...it's more expensive than private crematoriums

so if you're more expensive than private...thn where did they get the numbers from? laugh.gif

it's the same like saying KKM is more expensive than Gleneagles laugh.gif
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There is plenty of lands in the wakaf list. Some muslims prefer to wakaf their land once they dead instead of their family members fighting for it lol

For cremation maybe can adopt the same khairat concept also where ppl can contribute at least rm500 for lifetime each and the pool collected money will be use to lower down the cost of cremation further.

Some khairat also only take rm30-40 per month. I consider it like an insurance.

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Mar 4 2025, 06:52 PM)
It just a good practise, why so triggered?

The Khairat Kematian is like insurance. You contribute to a fund where once you dead the community will use the money to settle your burial at low cost and avoid your family members to foot the problem. Most of the work in the burial ground is voluntary which lower down the cost. Most important thing it is not monetised.

Maybe the concept helping others and the community is alien to you
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Chinese has become 1) materialistic 2) individualistic

Materialistic in the sense that semua nak grand nak bagus nak jaga muka: alphard hearse, big flower boards with electronics, big funeral with a lot of people, then kasi makan sedap2 buffet style, bakar mercedes, bakar maid, bakar driver, bakar banglo, bakar duit berkepuk2, emas, perak, keranda cantik shiny mahogany etc

Tombstone kena besar, kena check fengshui, check zodiac, check bazi etc. sembahyang 3 hari 3 malam, pastu sembahyang seratus hari, setahun, etc.

Individualistic in the sense that ko pandai2 la kumpul duit ko, ko mati aku kasi sampul putih rm30 sumbangan ikhlas. Ko pi la cari nirvana cari apa2 kedai pastu ko bayar jer.

It is a cultural thing, nak grand & nak muka. Those gangster ah long yg baru mati kat JB aritu buat grand funeral pun org boleh envy & rasa “wah so nice the funeral” tapi masa hidup jadi penyangak. Money is everything.




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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Mar 4 2025, 06:52 PM)
Next suitable and sensible method throw ashes into the sea.

But please find a more nicer place do it. Not off the shores of port Klang. laugh.gif

Can't they do it at a more beautiful serene and quiet beach.
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If RM1300 feels expensive, i have a cheaper suggestion. Use own car, send to any nearby beaches / resorts, dump into the sea.
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some people didn't read
RM1.3k is just the cremation service...not the urn or the place to put it

just burning your body to ashes...that's all
not everything for RM100/RM1.3k
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 4 2025, 08:26 PM)
some people didn't read
RM1.3k is just the cremation service...not the urn or the place to put it

just burning your body to ashes...that's all
not everything for RM100/RM1.3k
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No need cremation, straight away push the body to the sea, let nature take its course.
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1300 is too expensive, but 100 is too cheap also
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QUOTE(matiko95 @ Mar 4 2025, 11:02 AM)
dont worry, it same as the price mention even malays dont cremate.
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Yeah, around that too for the van, etc etc. Rm1500 average but Ada insurance /khairat kematian/socso To claim back

 

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