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post Nov 9 2007, 06:56 PM


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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Nov 9 2007, 06:46 PM)
wats da format for writing ckp pindah / ajuk, and all the tatabahasa thingy? like the cerakinkan ayat bagi petikan, do i write


1
2
3

or just write in a paragraph, but in shorter sentence?
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for cakap ajuk o cakap pindah, write in paragraph.
for tatabhs:

no of question(2a) den answer

if is betulkan kesalahan, make sure u und the word dat u change.
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post Nov 9 2007, 07:09 PM


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1.if ask huraikan 2 perwatakan dlm petikan, 1 perwatakan dalam cerita, how?




3.if ask apakah yang akan anda lakukan untuk menyelamatkan hang jebat?[3m] then how to write? must write in 1 sentence, or 4 sentences using penanda wacana?
A: saya akan nasihat, tipu bahawa dia sudah mati , dan lepaskan hang jebat.
B:saya akan nasihat. selain itu, saya akan tipu dia sudah mati. bukan itu sahaja, saya akan lepaskan hang jebat.

method A or B?


3.then what bout rumusan , i heard new format dont change too much of sentence?? last time i used to rewrite the thing based on my understanding, then teacher say dont do that, just change 1 or 2 words.. is taht true?


4.theres a question of cerakinkan ayat right? give u petikan with 3 sentence, then ask u pecah into 6 ayat.
do i need to number the ayat?
or just write into paragraph?


thanks for all the answers.

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Nov 9 2007, 07:09 PM)
1.if ask huraikan 2 perwatakan dlm petikan, 1 perwatakan dalam cerita, how?
3.if ask apakah yang akan anda lakukan untuk menyelamatkan hang jebat?[3m] then how to write? must write in 1 sentence, or 4 sentences using penanda wacana?
A: saya akan nasihat, tipu bahawa dia sudah mati , dan lepaskan hang jebat.
B:saya akan nasihat. selain itu, saya akan tipu dia sudah mati. bukan itu sahaja, saya akan lepaskan hang jebat.

method A or B?
3.then what bout rumusan , i heard new format dont change too much of sentence?? last time i used to rewrite the thing based on my understanding, then teacher say dont do that, just change 1 or 2 words.. is taht true?
4.theres a question of cerakinkan ayat right? give u petikan with 3 sentence, then ask u pecah into 6 ayat.
do i need to number the ayat?
or just write into paragraph?
thanks for all the answers.
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alrite
1. u must huraikan 2 perwatakan based on the petikan, n 1 perwatakan based on the novel o cerita ( cant repeat the same 1 for the base on petikan one)

2. do in seperate sentences but don too short.
not saya akan nasihat but saya akan menasihat dia kerana bla bla bla.

3just change 1 o 2 words..

4. yes, u nid number. write in number form nt paragraph.

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post Nov 9 2007, 07:54 PM


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ok thanks vry much.last question
can i use perwatakan based on the petikan to answer pwerwatakan dalam novel?

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Nov 9 2007, 07:54 PM)
ok thanks vry much.last question
can i use perwatakan based on the petikan to answer pwerwatakan dalam novel?
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Ain't that supposed to be stated in the question?
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Nov 9 2007, 07:54 PM)
ok thanks vry much.last question
can i use perwatakan based on the petikan to answer pwerwatakan dalam novel?
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can.. if it is not same wif the previous 2 point on the perwatakan based on the petikan..
means

1)perwatakan base on the petikan:
A
B

2)perwatakan based on the novel:
C

cannot repeat B o A, if gt other perwatakan in the petikan dat u nv stated in 1 den can..
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post Nov 9 2007, 09:08 PM


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KOSA KATA FRASA MENARIK

Kemelut- Masalah
Membarahi- Melanda
Senario- Keadaan
Mengaibkan nama Negara- memalukan nama Negara
Tumbuk Rusuk- Makan Suap, Rasuah, Korupsi
Nafsi- mementingkan diri sendiri
menopang dagu- termenung
seantero- seluruh
Beraja di mata, bersultan di hati- terlalu mengikut nafsu
Jauh panggang dari api= merosakkan harta benda
lumrah- kebiasaan
ketandusan- tiadak ada
Menegakkan benang basah- mempertahanan perkara yang salah
Intan paying dan nyawa- sangat disayangi
meranapkan-menghancurkan
sanubari-jiwa
akar umbi-punca
bejat- gawat
sayugia-harus patut

Peribahasa dan Pepatah serta Cogan Kata

Kemalangan Jalan Raya

Biar Lambat asalkan Selamat
Pandu Cermat, Jiwa Selamat
Berhati-hati di jalan raya
Hargailah Nyawa anda
Sesal dahulu Pendapatan, sesal kemudian tidak berguna

Amalan Berjimat Cermat

Sedikit-sedikit lama lama menjadi bukit
Beringat sebelum kena, berjimat sebelum kena
Sediakan Payung Sebelum Hujan

Amalan Membaca

Membaca memerdekan minda
Ilmu Pelita Hidup
Membaca Jabatan Ilmu
Rakyat Berilmu Negara Maju
Banyak Berjalan, Luas Pandangan, Banyak Membaca Luas Ilmu Pengetahuan
Seperti Katak Di Bawah Temperung

Amalan Gotong-Royong dan semangat kerjasama

Berat Sama dipikul, ringan sama dijinjing
Ke Bukit Sama Didaki, Ke Lurah Sama Dituruni
Hati Gajah Sama Dilapah, Hati Kuman Sama Dicecah
Cubit Paha Kanan, Paha Kiri Terasa Sakit
Seperti Aur Dengan Tebing

Alam Sekitar:
Negara Besih, Rakyat Sihat
Duri Dalam Daging Masyarakat
Kebersihan Alam Sekitar, Tanggungjawab Bersama
Cintailah Sungai Kita
Cintailah Alam Sekitar

Gejala Sosial
Bapa Borek Anak Rintik
Bagaimana Acuan, Begitulah Kuihnya
Remaja Merupakan Asset dan Tonggok Negara
Belia Penggerak Wawasan
Seperti Cendawan Tumbuh Selepas Hujan
Pemuda Harapan Bangsa, Pemudi Tiang Negara

SUKAN
Sukan untuk semua
Rakyat Sihat, Negara Maju
Sukan Pemangkin Perpaduan Negara



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post Nov 9 2007, 09:14 PM


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can any1 PLEASE tell me the below meaning?

1.) burung terbang dipipiskan lada
2.) lembu punya susu, sabi dapat nama
3.) batu yang bergoleh tiada dihinggapi lemut
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post Nov 9 2007, 09:49 PM


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QUOTE(Lover @ Nov 9 2007, 05:56 PM)

Since there is no discussion thread about BM(assume nt much ppl like BM:p), i would like to make 1 here.. haha...
im a part time BM tuition teacher n personally like BM a lot last time( now not much time for it) haha..
so any1 can post any question related to BM, form1-form5/UEC.

i'll try to answer and post some good info about BM here.. thx


nota penting untuk tatabhs:

1)TIADA imbuhan memper...i atau memper...kan untuk kata adjektif :

memperluaskan- SALAH (luas merupakan kata adjektif)
memperluas / meluaskan - BETUL

2)ialah digunakan sebelum kata nama
adalah digunakan untuk kata sendi, kata adjektif, dan lain-lain
Ali adalah guru.- SALAH
guru merupakan kata nama. oleh itu :
Ali ialah guru.

contoh pengunaan adalah- tindakan mereka adalah betul. (betul ialah kata adjektif)

3)ME... kan untuk benda
  ME...i untuk orang

cth:

Cikgu memberikan sebuah buku kepada Ali. (buku ialah benda)
Cikgu memberi Ali sebuah buku. (Ali ialah orang)
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hi teacher,

how about mempercayai?"Bolehkah saya mempercayai dia?", kata Ali kepada Ahmad.

how about memperkasakan?







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QUOTE(lolz_5167 @ Nov 9 2007, 09:49 PM)
hi teacher,

how about mempercayai?"Bolehkah saya mempercayai dia?", kata Ali kepada Ahmad.

how about memperkasakan?
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mempercayai kata, mempercayai orang also correct even after i should be orang.
mempercayakan gt a diff meaning- mengamanatkan

how about memperkasakan? wat u means?


Added on November 9, 2007, 10:17 pm
QUOTE(Lemonfish @ Nov 9 2007, 09:08 PM)
KOSA KATA FRASA MENARIK

Kemelut- Masalah
Membarahi- Melanda
Senario- Keadaan
Mengaibkan nama Negara- memalukan nama Negara
Tumbuk Rusuk- Makan Suap, Rasuah, Korupsi
Nafsi- mementingkan diri sendiri
menopang dagu- termenung
seantero- seluruh
Beraja di mata, bersultan di hati- terlalu mengikut nafsu
Jauh panggang dari api= merosakkan harta benda
lumrah- kebiasaan
ketandusan- tiadak ada
Menegakkan benang basah- mempertahanan perkara yang salah
Intan paying dan nyawa- sangat disayangi
meranapkan-menghancurkan
sanubari-jiwa
akar umbi-punca
bejat- gawat
sayugia-harus patut

Peribahasa dan Pepatah serta Cogan Kata

Kemalangan Jalan Raya

Biar Lambat asalkan Selamat
Pandu Cermat, Jiwa Selamat
Berhati-hati di jalan raya
Hargailah Nyawa anda
Sesal dahulu Pendapatan, sesal kemudian tidak berguna

Amalan Berjimat Cermat

Sedikit-sedikit lama lama menjadi bukit
Beringat sebelum kena, berjimat sebelum kena
Sediakan Payung Sebelum Hujan

Amalan Membaca

Membaca memerdekan minda
Ilmu Pelita Hidup
Membaca Jabatan Ilmu
Rakyat Berilmu Negara Maju
Banyak Berjalan, Luas Pandangan, Banyak Membaca Luas Ilmu Pengetahuan
Seperti Katak Di Bawah Temperung

Amalan Gotong-Royong dan semangat kerjasama

Berat Sama dipikul, ringan sama dijinjing
Ke Bukit Sama Didaki, Ke Lurah Sama Dituruni
Hati Gajah Sama Dilapah, Hati Kuman Sama Dicecah
Cubit Paha Kanan, Paha Kiri Terasa Sakit
Seperti Aur Dengan Tebing

Alam Sekitar:
Negara Besih, Rakyat Sihat
Duri Dalam Daging Masyarakat
Kebersihan Alam Sekitar, Tanggungjawab Bersama
Cintailah Sungai Kita
Cintailah Alam Sekitar

Gejala Sosial
Bapa Borek Anak Rintik
Bagaimana Acuan, Begitulah Kuihnya
Remaja Merupakan Asset dan Tonggok Negara
Belia Penggerak Wawasan
Seperti Cendawan Tumbuh Selepas Hujan
Pemuda Harapan Bangsa, Pemudi Tiang Negara

SUKAN
Sukan untuk semua
Rakyat Sihat, Negara Maju
Sukan Pemangkin Perpaduan Negara
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thx vry much, wil link from post 1..


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post Nov 9 2007, 10:57 PM


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Er, can I have sukan's isi?
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Hi, its nice to have people like you in this forum. Heres a few question/request i have for BM.

1.) can you list out some penanda wacana that i can use for my BM karangan? few i know are selain itu, seterusnya, di samping itu, selain it juga

2.) Can you give a brief on how to write a good pendahuluan and kesimpulan in BM karangan? If possible 1 example will be splendid.

Ill post more when i have question in my mind later notworthy.gif
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Anyone want to know about below point, just pm me, foc....
1. Perkembangan Bahasa Melayu
2. Sistem Ejaan Rumi Baru Bahasa Melayu
3. Pembentukan Kata
4. Penggolongan Kata Dalam Bahasa Melayu
5. Ayat
6. Ayat Dasar
7. Ayat Tunggal
8. Pola Ayat Dasar
9. Jenis Ayat
10. Tulisan dan Penulisan
11. Laporan Mesyuarat (minit mesyuarat)
12. Laporan Kajian
13. Cara menulis bibliografi
14. Cara menulis kertas kerja
15. Contoh soalan
16. Tugasan kursus
17. Surat Rasmi
18. Resume

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QUOTE(chuanya @ Nov 9 2007, 09:14 PM)
can any1 PLEASE tell me the below meaning?

1.) burung terbang dipipiskan lada
2.) lembu punya susu, sabi dapat nama
3.) batu yang bergoleh tiada dihinggapi lemut
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1)sudah sedia mengecap hasil yg belum pasti diperoleh
2)org lain yg bersusah payah, org lain yg mendapat pujian
3)org yg suka bertukat-tukar kerja tdk akan mencapai kemajuan

QUOTE(NinG @ Nov 9 2007, 10:57 PM)
Er, can I have sukan's isi?
Punca, Kesan, Langkah
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gv me sometime to work on it tongue.gif

QUOTE(CallMeMonkey @ Nov 9 2007, 11:16 PM)
Hi, its nice to have people like you in this forum. Heres a few question/request i have for BM.

1.) can you list out some penanda wacana that i can use for my BM karangan? few i know are selain itu, seterusnya, di samping itu, selain it juga

2.) Can you give a brief on how to write a good pendahuluan and kesimpulan in BM karangan? If possible 1 example will be splendid.

Ill post more when i have question in my mind later notworthy.gif
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1)tambahan pula, justeru, lantaran itu, oleh hal yang demikian, walau bagaimanapun, n more haha
2)a good pendahuluan- gv a brief background on the issue,
kesimpulan- summarise the points, gv suggestions

QUOTE(cy_an @ Nov 9 2007, 11:24 PM)
Anyone want to know about below point, just pm me, foc....
1. Perkembangan Bahasa Melayu
2. Sistem Ejaan Rumi Baru Bahasa Melayu
3. Pembentukan Kata
4. Penggolongan Kata Dalam Bahasa Melayu
5. Ayat
6. Ayat Dasar
7. Ayat Tunggal
8. Pola Ayat Dasar
9. Jenis Ayat
10. Tulisan dan Penulisan
11. Laporan Mesyuarat (minit mesyuarat)
12. Laporan Kajian
13. Cara menulis bibliografi
14. Cara menulis kertas kerja
15. Contoh soalan
16. Tugasan kursus
17. Surat Rasmi
18. Resume
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can pm me n i wil post it out.. thx
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hi,can anyone tell me the langkah mengembangkan,kesan baik dan buruk for pelancongan?
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1)PERKEMBANGAN BAHASA MELAYU
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ASPEK BAHASA DAN FUNGSI BAHASA


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before taking this notes mention me(PM) first.

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gv me sometime to work on it tongue.gif
I just need the point only. Hope can be ASAP. Thanks. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Lover @ Nov 9 2007, 06:56 PM)
for cakap ajuk o cakap pindah, write in paragraph.
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If change to cakap pindah, write the whole thing in just one paragraph right?

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more notes are coming up.....i need to find my lecturer notes....
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