As per topic. If based on nutrition facts 1 pack of kopi o indeed 0% added sugar.
However the carbohydrate is 7g.. which translate directly is 7g of sugar?
So back to topic is kopi o kosong good or bad even is no sugar added..

I only compare kopi o kosong to kopi o kosong...Just started to learn dont shoot ar

While they roasting Kopi (referring to local Hainan Coffee Bean) there is a lot of sugar added and margarine which is also not a good ingredient.

You may consider the western kopi kosong AKA Long Black / Americano which is better alternative to local ones

Yes carb will broke down into sugar.
7g is low.

Well its better than kopi with sugar or kopi with milk if youre asking that...

100g of rice cooked already 30g+ already..

Thats come to my second question...kopi o not like hainan coffee bean which need roasted and etc?
What coffee bean that mamak use? Was it same method like kopi o or how?

Ya, way better.

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 18 2025, 12:23 AM

tumpang tered,

isnt kopi o kosong and kopi o are the same?

Kopi O = Black coffee, no added milk, with added sugar

Kopi O kosong = Simply black coffee

This post has been edited by UserU: Feb 18 2025, 12:54 AM

Yes

No.

1 medium-sized cup per day is normal & just nice

dont go hantam so many times like a giant-mug/bucket per day

Then hows should it translate? Sorry ar just learn.

Short answer, no it's not healthy due to the process of making it. They add lots of sugar and magerine during the roasting process

No all carbohydrates are equal.

The carbs in black coffee doesn't affect the blood glucose, even for diabetic patients.

You mean hainan kopi right?

western coffee, only raw bean roasted, grind to powder then add hot water become black coffee
add milk/sugar become latte/cappucino etc
hainam coffee raw bean roasted adding butter & sugar, grind to powder then add hot water become black coffee
add condensed milk/sugar become kopi/kopi c etc
different beans also used, western more arabica, while hainam coffee think mixed both arabica & robusta.
roast level western more light, while hainam coffee quite dark, hence the bitterness.

All those chinese kopitiam more or less is using the same type of coffee beans. You want to drink then drink those black coffee/americano/long black.

Tq for the info...

either Kopi O or Americano, everything is ok with moderation. Need to consider the caffeine effect on you as well

This.
During my lose weight journey, I took either Kopi C Kosong or Latte only. 8~12 ounce per day.
Now 6 month manage to shake off 11kg.

Before this I overweight, every morning 1 large size Cham ice, noon cappuccino, night Chagee. Sugar consumption off the chart.

Of course also cut down on rice and fry/oily food.

But I believe O/C (if can, go for kosong as well) is much healthier than Kopi/Teh itself.

got margerine n sugar

just drink nescafe gold kosong better if on budget

Most likely the same Hainanese Coffee

The western coffee doesn't come out that dark as compared to the Hainanese one.

Also the taste and aroma is totally different kind of thing. I felt Hainanese Coffee Kosong felt bland do not have body/after taste, must add sugar/condensed milk to bring out the flavor.

While on the other hand Americano/Long Black taste more flavorful when taken without Sugar/Milk

This post has been edited by zero5177: Feb 18 2025, 10:26 AM

good to hear.

some ppl dont notice this, yet complain "i breath also fat"

and true, many cut leg drinks out there. but you need to know you can choose 0 sugar.

How about Old Town Roasted White Coffee-O Kosong?

americano better

Nescafe gold the true kopi kosong. lowest calories coffee.

To share my findings.

Some Kopi beans e.g kampung or hainan type adds sugar and margerine/butter during roasting. If you see the labels it could be like the coffee beans are only 70-80%. The remaining are sugar and others. Not talking about those 2in1 or 3in1 yah.

Where else like Nescafe, Illy those mahal ones are just coffee. These are best choice esp for diabetic patients.

Not everyone can afford Americano everyday

Ya...i guess so...nescafe is real kopi...

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 18 2025, 11:34 AM

No need to order Americano. Just bancuh Nescafe Gold without sugar ok edi. Personally I prefer to add UHT Fresh Milk and make it like a Latte

This post has been edited by lolabunny123: Feb 18 2025, 11:36 AM

Coffee culture in SEA was shaped by European colonial influences , high-quality Arabica coffee was pricey. And Hainanese immigrants had to make do with cheaper, more bitter Robusta beans. To improve the taste, they roasted the beans with sugar and margarine, giving Hainanese coffee its signature strong and aromatic flavor.

If we compare different coffee styles—Hainanese kopi, Thai coffee, Vietnamese coffee, Western coffee, Indonesian coffee — Western coffee (black, no sugar) is usually the healthiest. It has no added fats or sugar and is packed with antioxidants. Indonesian Kopi Joss (charcoal-infused) is also interesting since it’s believed to help with digestion.

May I know if the recommended kopi orang putih got instant type and sold in bigger volume like Moccona? Did some online search no luck

7-11 one is affordable

time to invest kopi machine

TLDR

A cup of black coffee (about 240 mL or 8 oz) contains a small but notable amount of amino acids, primarily from the proteins in coffee beans. Here’s an estimated breakdown of its amino acid profile per cup:

Amino Acid Content in Black Coffee (Approximate Values)
Amino Acid Amount (mg per cup)
Alanine ~1–5 mg
Arginine ~1–5 mg
Aspartic Acid ~5–15 mg
Cysteine ~0.5–2 mg
Glutamic Acid ~10–30 mg
Glycine ~1–5 mg
Histidine ~1–3 mg
Isoleucine ~1–3 mg
Leucine ~2–5 mg
Lysine ~1–3 mg
Methionine ~0.5–2 mg
Phenylalanine ~2–6 mg
Proline ~2–7 mg
Serine ~2–6 mg
Threonine ~2–5 mg
Tryptophan ~0.5–2 mg
Tyrosine ~1–4 mg
Valine ~2–5 mg
Key Points:
Coffee is not a significant source of protein but contains trace amounts of free amino acids.
The highest concentrations are in glutamic acid, aspartic acid, and proline.
These amino acids contribute to coffee’s umami, bitter, and slightly sweet flavors.

1. Water (~98%)
The majority of coffee is just water, which helps extract and dissolve the compounds from coffee beans during brewing.
2. Caffeine (~80–120 mg per cup, depending on brew strength)
A natural stimulant that enhances alertness by blocking adenosine receptors in the brain.
May boost metabolism, improve mood, and enhance athletic performance.
3. Organic Acids (pH ~4.5–5.0, giving coffee its acidity)
Acid Effects & Taste
Chlorogenic acids Antioxidants; contribute to bitterness & slight astringency
Quinic acid Adds sourness/astringency; increases as coffee cools
Citric acid Bright, fruity acidity (common in Arabica beans)
Malic acid Found in some high-altitude coffees; gives an apple-like tartness
Acetic acid Vinegar-like, contributes to sharp acidity
Phosphoric acid Mild sweetness, found in some African coffees
4. Lipids (Coffee Oils)
Mainly cafestol & kahweol (found in unfiltered coffee like French press).
Can increase cholesterol levels slightly but have potential anti-inflammatory benefits.
Mostly present in espresso and unfiltered coffee, but much lower in filtered coffee.
5. Polyphenols & Antioxidants
Coffee is rich in antioxidants, which may help reduce oxidative stress.
Notable polyphenols:
Chlorogenic acids – contribute to health benefits but also to bitterness.
Melanoidins – formed during roasting, responsible for coffee’s dark color & aroma.
6. Minerals (Trace Amounts)
Mineral Amount per Cup Function
Potassium 80–120 mg Electrolyte balance, heart function
Magnesium 5–10 mg Muscle & nerve function
Calcium 2–5 mg Bone health
Sodium <5 mg Nerve & muscle function
Phosphorus 5–10 mg Energy metabolism
7. Sugars & Carbohydrates (Minimal)
Coffee contains tiny amounts of carbohydrates, mostly in the form of mannose, arabinose, and galactose.
Some of these sugars break down during roasting, contributing to the sweetness & caramel-like flavors.
8. Amino Acids (Trace Amounts)
See previous breakdown.
9. Volatile Compounds (Aromas & Flavors)
Coffee’s smell and taste come from over 800 volatile compounds, including:
Furans (caramel, roasted notes)
Pyrazines (nutty, earthy flavors)
Aldehydes (sweet, floral notes)
Phenols (smoky, clove-like)
What’s Not in Black Coffee?
No sugars (unless added)
No fat (except in unfiltered coffee with natural oils)
No protein in significant amounts

I do have one :X

Yes with less sugar

sometime just lazy being make myself as kopi o kosong ice ikat tepi is da best

Is Kopi O Kosong good?

No, because tasteless or tak sedap.

Add 2 tsp of sugar to 1 cup of kopi O, baru sedap or good tasting.
.

Actually if u make your own very affordable, like example

1. You need a kettle which most household have
2. Chemex, the glassware and stainless steel filter to brew coffee sold around RM25 online
3. Coffee bean order grounded around RM20 for 200g can buy online, this 1 pack last me close to 1 month for about 15 cups (I took on weekday)

When u get interested, consider invest to a Timemore hand grinder which cost u about RM150 which elevate the experience to a different height that you will never be interested with coffee from chains like Starbucks anymore.

Sorry I'm not a fan of instant kopi, it kicks uncomfortably different for me, I just make my own coffee simple one no need measure to precision. Already life changing experience.

7g carbo not equal 7g sugar.

carbo will consist of fiber, starch..

in case of coffee kosong .. it should very2 less sugar build. will not equal to 7g.

same cases on food intake. not all food taken equal = sugar gram.

Ok got it finally.

I normally will dapau 1 kopi o kosng then when arrived office, i add on instant nescafe gold/kopi o sacht makes more kick..

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 18 2025, 05:13 PM

Please bear in mind tapi Kopi"o" kosong actually is not kosong. You can check back the making of Kopi-O.
Sifu actually dumb in Butter/Marjerin and sugar (different level according to resipi). The bean will roast until dark and dried.
This is Nanyang Style Coffee.

Western coffee process quite simple, only Roast the bean until dry without add any ingredient.

Yes, by our mean Kopi o kosong means does not add any additional sugar in it.
Instead how they gonna roast the bean, we cant control.

Buy black coffee. Expresso. Don't buy local roast as they use sugar and margarine

Sugar got a little, that's why you can see black color caramel (which is meaning of -O)_. But don't worry about, we all need some Carbohydrate. This Kopi-O just enough for your metabolism activity.
Dont add in Sweetened Milk, or Sugar.

I try google and result is this.
How is Kopi O made?
Kopi O': Coffee beans are roasted at a very high temperature, often until the beans are dark and glistening, which gives it its bitter, sour- charcoal flavour. Margarine, sugar and sesame is often added while roasting, giving it its rich aroma while diminishing the intensity of taste.

No no, i wont worry on that. Nowadays people no idea what they consume for.
Is good that we know at least what we had.

I usually just drink black coffee without any added sugar.

So yeah...Kopi O Kosong is actually very healthy.

i am content with my nescafe o-kosong.

Every morning will hit Nescafe Gold (without sugar or milk). It's very addictive once you get used to it. Once in a while, drop by Zus for Americano (Boss coffee beans). If in the mood, will add extra espresso shot to complement my Americano. Pure black coffee is so good that when tried with sugar felt like vomiting LOL. So into black coffee now, totally addicted.

i drink 2-3 glasses of kopi o kosong per day unless is weekend/holiday. taste almost similar to any americano of any cafes. here in kuching the coffee are not roasted in sugar and margarine, hence its easy to taste the coffee beans quality, but no where near the sweet and fragrance taste of semenanjung kopi where most shops uses hainan coffee beans that are roasted in sugar and margarine.

Hainanese coffee roasting traditionally involves roasting coffee beans with sugar, butter, and sometimes sesame seeds, resulting in a rich, aromatic, and slightly caramelized flavor.

Here's a more detailed look at the process:

Ingredients:
The core ingredients include coffee beans (often Robusta), sugar, butter (or margarine), and sometimes sesame seeds.

Roasting Method:
The beans are roasted, and then sugar is added to the roasting process, creating a caramelized finish.

Traditional Techniques:
Some roasters use wood-fired roasting, which adds a smoky flavor.

Cooling:
After roasting, the beans are rapidly cooled to prevent them from hardening into caramel chunks.

Roasting Arabica coffee beans involves heating them to specific temperatures to develop their flavor and aroma, with common roast levels including light, medium, and dark, each offering a unique taste profile.

Here's a more detailed look at roasting Arabica coffee beans:

Understanding the Roasting Process:

Green Beans:
You start with unroasted, green coffee beans.

Heating:
The beans are heated gradually, typically between 370°F to 540°F (188°C to 282°C).

First Crack:
As the beans heat, they start to crack, releasing steam and gases. This is a key indicator of the roast level.

Second Crack:
If roasting continues, a second crack will occur, signaling a darker roast.

Cooling:
Once the desired roast level is achieved, the beans are immediately cooled to stop the roasting process.

Yah its ok as usually dont take 2-3 cups a day. Hust be kinded its not really 0-oh so dont hantam the carbs/sugar elsewhere thiking got alot quota left ahahaha

True..any coffee with sugar i immediately ask for exchange or i rather threw it away...

If follow the nutri label.. 1 pack of kopi o kosong + 200ml water around 5-6g carbohydrate...which consider low.. But to be honest... 1 pack of kopi o kosong...i can pour almost 600ml....
Try check 1 roti sell in family mart..almost 40g of carb in little 90g bread...damn...

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 18 2025, 10:27 PM

order kopi outsite
Kopi O Kosong - no gula no krimer
Kopi O - with gula no krimer
Kopi - with gula with krimer

made own kopi
depend of kopi powder
100% pure kopi, kopi campuran, kopi segera *-in-1, kopi 1% tongkat ali

kapal api got two version. original indon with garam and diimport dan diedar oleh no garam

+ garam sedap ? Nbvr try be4

Yes, must try. Just a pinch will make the coffee into another level.
I not sure others but I do add some salted butter into my kopi o kosong when craving...

shyan90's have you seen how it's roasted? watch this and decide for yourself


This post has been edited by alexei: Feb 20 2025, 09:31 AM

Drink the original and taste the original taste, instead of adding milk or sugar.

Just like tea, no need to add sugar.

Nescafe gold kosong rules.

Long time no see
Yes..i know how their roasted. But if calculate the Carbohydrates and sugar contain of 1 sachets..
I personally think still fine provided 1 day sachets without additional sugar added.

Yes, but more and more mahal...

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 20 2025, 12:12 PM

Yeah one cup should fine for most ppl.

But those on strict diet or diabetics need to be mindful of their sugar/carbs daily intake. Dont think kopi-o kosong is really really kosong. Then plus lunch and dinner carbs then will exceed daily intake.

Actually if you eat 2 meal a day with moderate..
I found hardly went off with Carbs...imagine each meal around 100g carbs without any sort of snacks. Maximum a day 250g carbs while daily suggest around 330g carbs.

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 20 2025, 01:34 PM

so many recommending nescafe gold so i might give it a try.

i always order kopi o kosong at kopitiam

Kopi o kosong is good option compare others.
But if you want getting more healthier and your wallet can afford, can go for better coffee.. That's all.
Any how, drink and eat moderate will good enough. Cheat meal once every bi-weekly i think still good.

Kopi o kosong with less sugar good, also avoid kopi susu

bro, dh kosong..where got sugar..haha..kopi C kosong is fine for those who cant drink pure coffee else stomach bloat all day.

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 21 2025, 10:43 AM

Lupa la kawan, less sugar intake 😅

NESCAFÉ® Classic Kopi Kedah
Made In Kedah

kopi o kosong no add sugar no add condensed/evaporated milk
kopi o added sugar only its black no add condensed/evaporated milk

Woah will search for it soon

Nescafé gold o + farm fresh milk 👍

This... Very true, I started losing weight a lot when I found out carbs broke down as sugar.

I can't take coffee, middle of the night will get leg cramp.

Try 100 plus after u drink coffee...maybe cofffee dilute your body electrolytes hence you easily get cramp

Why minum sugary drink?

Can take a pinch of sea salt / Himalaya salt and put it in a warm water and minum.

I always take a pitch of Celtic sea salt .... since then no more night leg cramps.

I cheat meal every Saturday night. Horlicks + coffee + 1tsp of sugar. Simple life pleasures.

Other days by default kopi o kosong.

This post has been edited by hbm90: Feb 23 2025, 10:15 AM

Maybe kopi o kosong plus some sea salt or salted butter?

Cheat meal is ok. The main purpose is able to maintain the daily consumption. I saw some very extreme case however it could not last.
I already roughly 6 year enter less sugar till no sugar routine. Now cant really drink sweet coffee...I rather throw it away..

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 23 2025, 12:31 PM

Have a change, try some Greenmax. Their range of hot beverage products are quite good and easy to prepare.

haha, we've actually never met since we first chat here, hopefully soon
I think it's roasted to almost becoming charcoal

have you tried purchasing freeze dried coffee from shopee or lazada?

Risks of Daily Caffeine Consumption:

Increased anxiety and panic attacks

Sleep disruption (insomnia, reduced sleep quality)

Acid reflux (GERD)

Gastritis and stomach irritation

Diarrhea or IBS symptoms

Mineral deficiencies (calcium, magnesium, iron, zinc)

Elevated blood pressure

Increased heart rate or arrhythmia

Adrenal fatigue or HPA-axis dysfunction

Hormonal imbalances (thyroid, cortisol, sex hormones)

Increased risk of osteoporosis

Dependence and withdrawal symptoms (headache, fatigue, irritability)

Fertility issues

Pregnancy complications (miscarriage, low birth weight, preterm labor)

Chronic fatigue or burnout

Headaches or migraines (in sensitive individuals)

Reduced nutrient absorption (vitamins and minerals)

Potential increase in chronic inflammation


Just ask. I can explain any of the points above. Coffee should be a treat not a daily healthy dose of nutrient. Caffein is a predatory defense mechanism of plant anyway.

drink liong sui is better

Ya..i did meet Aaron before If you still remember Lion Chee..he now married d and got 1 very cute daughter
Actually nescafe gold is freeze dried coffee
Only gold and above. Normal nescafe is still normal coffee.

Liong sui no longer healthy. Not sure did you aware this now have liong sui syrup....
just mix with certain amount water and automatically become liong sui...

Understand on all above but already become habit...without coffee like exhausted and etc....very addicted to caffeine d..

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 23 2025, 10:30 PM

no need Nescafe, I'm referring to no brand ones
I haven't met Lion Chee, what's his nick?

thianz is his nick name back in that time. Actual name is Tim but facebook is lion chee
Are keem also married and got cute son.
Yuz wife having early stage cancer but very early detect
Bundakmental now operate 1 small coffee shop in front his house and so far good business

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Feb 24 2025, 09:48 AM

ah, yes yes! these names brings back memory
Yuz was into 2 stroker iirc