Owners come in?

Hybrid because ayam is condo liver, no charger.
Ayam city driving daily to work, back and fro, 10km/way with KL jams.
Once or twice in a year maybe drive to Ipoh/Penang.

For me HRV is more spacious. Cross is very tight in space.
The only thing about Cross i like is the 360° view, that HRV does not have.
And personally for me, Cross front is nicer than the silver dots dots on HRV. 🤣

Edit: honda City owner

This post has been edited by dr0olingb0at: Feb 3 2025, 12:55 PM

Not a fan of both, especially cross. Damn fking ugly and looks clumsy. But if still need to choose between this 2, then get cross. Honda is just p1 in disguise, full of problems punya car.

CCP HAVAL H6

10km/way with KL jams.

dafuq this oso need C-seg / B-seg SUV?

Toyota have the best hybrid technology.

topup a little get lexus nx 350

So far all my Hondas gooding yo .... Civic, Accords, BR-V ..... 90's till today .....

Never go to SC replace any faulty parts before? No vibrating sounds?

Top up slightly more to get RX500h

hi joek

Haval H6 hybrito

Never wor ..... could have a recall part for my Accord once ... other than that it's almost perfect ...
Unlike P1, no power window issue also ....

HRV la, if youre gonna spend over 100k it should at least look good

Yilongmas7 kan ado

Emas kenot need charger. Not practical for me.

depends this honda have steering rack problem or not
if yes thn it's an easy choice

i would take Kerolla Cross hybrid for 2 reasons:

1) superior and proven hybrid tech. peace of mind
3) got 360 camera. that's why you see Honda cars many parking senget macam bodoh. they dont have 360 camera

omomda C9 je, top up sikit

Honda for sure - power of dream

Topup a bit Camry hybrid way better

only the new camry using the latest gen tech, old gen tech lose to current honda punya

also try haval h6 oso la

then might as well get P1 X50 for half the price

For face value always Toyota, for drive feel and fuel saving honda

Ya since they get the praise they never invest and improve from there again, whil others keep improving their hybrid technology

New Toyota never need to claim warranty? And confirm no rattling sound ?

Lol....time has change things is different of cause Toyota still maintain the engine reliability although sacrifice many of the driving fun.

Comfortable ride, cross
Looks HRV

If HRV you might as well consider city hybrid

This post has been edited by stevenryl86: Feb 3 2025, 02:07 PM

This is one of my titik also, like, stick to the good ol' thing (why fix if it works) vs another one that is seemingly improving from time to time.

https://youtu.be/329IeTOK64o?si=KANf490XsxNmyoSS

And... It's really not spacious in Cross vs HR-V.. they sacrifice leg room for engine space?

This post has been edited by dr0olingb0at: Feb 3 2025, 02:14 PM

HRV only spacious if 4 ppl. Middle seat of HRV is very uncomfortable and raised. So if you carry 5 adults regularly i would consider Cross.

+HRV boot quite small

>HRV tebu owner here

younger crowd go hrv, mature crowd go cross

this is so dated already. please dont echo something that you learnt years ago.
even my doter's city hybrid can do 21km/l easily in full city driving. yes, full city driving

This post has been edited by accordvtec: Feb 3 2025, 03:04 PM

I saw this too. Amazing. And everyone around me was like "Toyota hybrid is best la"

etan26 my BRV so many nget-nget sounds, the CVT transmission also starting to jerk when go from N/P to Drive or Reverse after 5 yrs.

The BRV is not as comfortable but really feel it maximises the space compared to Cross.

New HRV damn ugly for me even though it might feel roomier, but the thought of having to deal with suspension/absorber, steering rack issues... nope.

Cross I only afraid of the automated tailgate only, that could cost a bomb to replace if out of warranty, and the paint thickness so thin.

The heavier Cross - hold my beer. 4.5l/100km, around 22km/l.

Edit : it's less efficient (underpowered, really) at highway speeds, I think only comparable or even less efficient than BRV at highway speeds.

Toyota tech is dated, but proven & widespread use in different models, so hopefully still have spare parts >10 yrs down the road.

This post has been edited by AbbyCom: Feb 3 2025, 04:36 PM

Can consider Nissan Kicks too. Even though the model itself is old, but doesn't really matter if you're looking into practicality

sound like a broken mount

my city is the older, i-dcd version with only 0.86kwh. cross is 1.3kwh. for a dated and proven tech, it is quite ok lah considering the i-dcd is the honda first full hybrid tech and now even improved with e-hev version.
still, i dont understand why people worship toyota's hybrid when they are going to use phev from byd soon

After 5 yrs need 1 round of replacing wear and tear stuffs, also afraid of CVT failure - so sold it off d.

I also don't understand why ppl worship Toyota hybrid tech (the NiCd batteries so old liao), I only want it for longevity (the proven), DIY community, 3rd party mechanics and spare parts availability (old tech and used in a few models) since it appears to be an updated 3rd Gen Prius punya hybrid tech.

Toyota using BYD tech will perhaps make the parts available more widely and maybe can start to consider BYD models that share same tech/parts as the Toyota models - for the longevity of support & parts availability again.

This post has been edited by AbbyCom: Feb 3 2025, 06:12 PM

recon harrier

Toyota only good thing is lasts longer esp engine and hybrid systems. Honda engines so far have no problems as I am a current HRV na and Crz hybrid owner. No steering rack issues as ayam a careful driver (not graduate from saga or mybi to Honda). Lagi satu, honda hrv hybrid can go longer distance than Cross on a full tank as the system issues different. Ref to video. Vtec engine also more vroom vroom feeling.

honda ehev...
the only sound u will hear
1) cracking/popping of plastic (especially the HU) when parked under hot sun then cooled down by AC u drive
2) the brake light switch clicking sound each time the brake lights comer on (either by pressing brake or car self braking during cruise control) - wont hear if crank up audio.. but still noticeable between song fade-out/fade in
3) rear brake groan sound in the morning if not seasoned enough
4) road noise intrude - beacuse ehev is a series hybrid. so no engine roar like corolla cross
5) seat squeaking sound if itchy butt cannot sit still

as for honda issue
steering rack - ur luck

top up a bit Jaecoo J7

Wow 50:50 all the time for both models

Is for my daughter, she is okay as long as long got aircond & can drive....haha .. anyway I bought a used 4+ years unit with mileage 50k from a direct owner.

Honda series hybrid. with 1.5 NA engine good luck

Can elaborate bo

you said it yourself. honda's hybrid system has a fucking transmission and it's an mechanical component so it's not really as sophisticated as toyota's ecvt, which uses planetary gears

Why still people talking about Honda and Toyota?

Now Chinamoi already.

Should look at Haval H6 HEV

One day 10kmx2
One year + Pg trip x2 = 9,000km
Current monthly petrol RM100 ish

Why do you need a Hybrid?
Need to maintain engine & motor/battery & power split devices.

HRV steering rack

Others improve but not even at the level of toyota yet. Toyota is just too good at what they do

From my personal pov both not ok

Can tell me why you hated both? What points you hate?

Question:
For a small family - currently 2 adults and 1 infant with possible another 1 later.
Which one is suitable as a family car?

In terms of Interior Cabin Size (after put in Car Seat and all)
a) Jaecoo J7 vs Corolla Cross vs X70 vs CRV vs CX5?
- aware all marketed as SUV Segment C exception of Cross (probably B i think) but read certain reviews J7 looks big on the outside but rather small interior cabin size?
- whether suitable for small family as daily car or not.

b) If not Omoda/Jaecoo C9 which definitely be very big exterior and interior (Segment D)
however, worried wife won't be able to handle driving such big car especially for mall basement turning and parking.

Not worried about maintenance and reselling as this will be as spare car.
Into Modern looks, design most importantly space for family albeit at reasonable price.

Thanks.

kek old gen Camry Hybrid here, not hard to achieve 21-22km/l at 60% city + 40% highway. From Genting to Setapak 25km/l. Both figures very little overtake, even with a bit more overtake 19km/l is so easy.

Terus ev je...only need charge once per week as of ur driving pattern. Ayam stay condo driving elunmas m3 no problem.

Worth it kah, DC charging is not cheap right. Workable or not. I thought of hybrid because of condo living mainly; and besides, petrol subsidy going to end….

This post has been edited by dr0olingb0at: Feb 4 2025, 09:51 PM

Like this also cannot choose, drive city je la

If condo or office hv charger then no problem d. I seldom use DC to charge cos it's too fast, prefer ac around 90sen+- per kw. Try shop around 2nd hand or pre register market even cheaper. Since u buy hybrid also no 2nd value. Life is too short to drive boring cars.

I posted this tered also because my family expanded from 3 to 4… and i really prefer SUV/taller cars - easy to put in stuffs and kids.
But I’m not into segment D.

I sat in HR-V and Cross in the showrooms last week, really can feel Cross is very small with little legroom… heck, i couldn’t open the glove compartment fully without kangkang my legs lol… HR-V, can.
Tested HR-V turbo, really powerful. Sadly no hybrid to test.
I also tested CRV hybrid, C segment is too big for me to manoeuvre inside the condo/mall parking.. but the suspension, smoothness all superb…

Jaecoo, yet to try, a bit too big to my likings.
Looks like I will be going for HR-V lul. Unless an EV is workable being in a condo…

This post has been edited by dr0olingb0at: Feb 4 2025, 10:03 PM

go and learn about honda e-hev that put toyota hybrid synergy drive into shame, in term of performance and fuel efficiency.

I saw a lot on the road macam Land Rover copy

if now

new corolla cross hybrid seems better deal with HRV ..atleast it patched all those shortfalls of previous cross like footbrake

but i would go for jaecoo if outlook and fancy interior is your priority

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Feb 4 2025, 10:57 PM

You tried both dy?

just a short drive cant really justify my experience but spec to spec and even real world drive by youtubers, e-hev wins the dated hsd.
take note that the hybrid i drive now is the first gen honda full hybrid woth dsg transmission and very low battery capacity of 0.86kwh but even so, i can easily hit 21km/l in pure city drive. ive hit 23km/l for highway drive around 110-130kmh cruising

I see, I have a hongda ehev but have not tried toyolda hybrid. Not sure about its fuel consumption. Normally I clocked 25km/l. Really interested to try out toyolta or ccp hybrid

why not hold first until middle of year

Trump is crashing oil prices to get cheap energy for America's re-industrialisation

laughizi is floating RON 95 this year

tengok dulu what would be the unsubsidised petrol price before deciding on hybrid or ICE.

Copy or not seriously nobody cares. For that price for that look and interior quality already miles better than T and H.

You are saying traditional manual transmission is the best technology.

If Toyota's is so good, why the forthcoming Toyota going to use BYD hybrid system?

I think these car's electric power can only drive for a few km only. Probably only enough to go to the corner 7-11 shop for buying simple groceries.

If fuel economy is your prime concern and don't want pure EV, then may be have a look at plug in hybrid that can run may be 50 - 80km on pure electric power. For most people driving in town, that is probably all you need in a normal day without paying a single sen on petrol

This post has been edited by touristking: Feb 5 2025, 10:25 AM

if i rmb correctly low speed use battery power motor
Medium speed engine charge battery power motor
high speed direct engine power

HRV so heavy with i think would be underpower.

honda civic/crv hybrid would be a much better choice. they run on 2.0NA

On paper, Honda wins hands down if you know how to read a brochure

On real world scenario, it is very different. Toyota HSD is most efficient when running below 80kmh, once above 90kmh 4th gen HSD fully rely on ICE. Furthermore, I will not buy any car car which assembled in Alor Gajah factory

Mana ada under power; it's not like some Toyota or Perodua which take 12-14seconds 0-100kmh,
Any car 9-10++ seconds, already powerful enough for daily use.
Dulu Mitsubishi Lancer GT or Civic FD, 10seconds+ pun org cakap dah power.

For me HRV 1.5S at RM115K berbaloi. City use OK je

25km/l already better than corolla cross spec on paper

and yet real world test by youtubers show what is consistent to the brochure claims. do you have data to support your claims?

phev need charger la. he already mentioned no charger otherwise he already consider ev liao

EV has no engine.

PHEV has battery + engine. Engine for long distance. Battery along can travel for about 50 - 80 km. 90% of the people would find that range sufficient for daily use.

Unless you stay in condo, all landed property has a electrical socket to charge overnight.

That is why I say, for most people who have fuel efficiency in mind, plug in Hybrid makes more sense than Toyota or Honda's hybrid that can only run for 1 or 2 km on electric power before needing engine power aka petrol

keep it in context to TS. he already mentioned he stayed condo and got no charger socket. so why still recommend phev for him?

This is a general knowledge thread. Not everybody posting here stay in condo. If you don't like my post, just don't reply

read again what you wrote to him. you specifically directed to him.
not that i dont like, is you gave wrong info or unrelated to his predicament. no need to get butthurt over your own misunderstanding. relax

recon harrier

PHEV on top on my list but unless I also buy a new house, I probably can’t buy a PHEV, especially when my condo management sucks…

Sadly yeah I cannot if not i will wait for Sealion PHEV.

It’s okay, kasi chan healthy discussion then can benefit others..

Not yet try haval h6?
Hybrid oso

top up abit buy landed house + solar panel then buy BYD Seal Tesla.

This post has been edited by Sichiri: Feb 5 2025, 07:17 PM

Electric naik harga la

TS didn't say anything. So you like to be a busy body?

just correct your wrong. why ur ego so big until you cannot accept people telling you thay you are wrong? bodoh sombong

Try jaecoo first

Did TS say I was wrong or you say I was wrong? So you busy body again?

he clearly written he got no charging facility and you still foolishly recommend phev?
why only he can comment your stupidity? im more than enough to point it out.
no need to try to straighten the wet thread. there's no way you can recover from this utter shame

so you still busy body replying on the behalf of TS? You his secretary?

why does it matter? even if i explain, you wont get it based on your stupidity shown

Sila bersurai secara aman

no choice lah some bdo with super heightened ego unable to accept his obvious fault. just close thread jer if no further discussion