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 Proton CEO says CCP cars at risk been abandoned, once brand exits market

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post Jan 24 2025, 06:44 PM, updated 11 months ago

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I’ve been here seven years, I’ve never seen so many new brands coming into this mature market. At least 15 new brands and 35 models came into Malaysia, and a majority of them are Proton’s competitors.”

So said Proton CEO Dr Li Chunrong at last night’s Chinese New Year media dinner, while showing a slide of all the Chinese brands and their models either already on sale in Malaysia or coming, and their volumes.

“For customers, this is good because you get more choices. That is 100% correct, but in the long run, your car may be orphaned (if the brand exits the market),” he said.

He explained that if production numbers cannot be sustained over a long enough period, the low volume/orders will negatively affect local vendors and parts suppliers in Malaysia.

51% of the 35 new models are electric vehicles (EV), which is unsurprising given the current tax-free entry conditions, but what’s perhaps more of a revelation is where (or rather how) they are assembled.

The slide makes a distinction between fully-imported (CBU), semi-knocked down (SKD) and completely-knocked down (CKD).

It showed that 77% of the 35 new models are CBU, 20% SKD and only 3% CKD (one out of 35). Although Malaysia has minimum local content requirements to be considered CKD proper, the terms SKD and CKD are often used interchangeably in this country. Most carmakers use the term CKD even with little to no localisation.

“(Car brands) in Malaysia will have to do localisation (for local assembly), because I don’t believe the Malaysian government will allow you to only do SKD (as opposed to proper CKD),” Dr Li said.

While he did not say which model was proper CKD, he pointed out the Jaecoo J7‘s volume as an example of one that could support a full CKD vendor ecosystem. The Jaecoo J7 is made in Chery’s own plant in Shah Alam, as opposed to contract assembly.

His point is, while it’s all well and good to have more brands and models coming into Malaysia, it may also have detrimental effects in the long run if the market doesn’t get proportionally bigger.

Local assembly programmes really only benefit the local vendor and parts supply ecosystem once they hit a high enough volume, which then needs to be sustained over a long period.

Failing that – and with more competition, each model’s chances will only become lower – both vendors and end consumers risk being left out in the cold, the former with unprofitable low orders, the latter with the possibility of the brand exiting the market completely. Basically, choose your next car carefully, says Dr Li.


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post Jan 24 2025, 06:46 PM

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Buy buy buy they said. "Got 7 years warranty mar".


My answer. "If they are still around to honour it".


Good luck.

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post Jan 24 2025, 06:52 PM

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Sample case study: Cherry brand when they exited Malaysia last time, leaving Cherry car owners stranded.

Then Cherry make comeback again to Malaysia under different dealers.
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post Jan 24 2025, 06:53 PM

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Beli dua biji can solve the problem of being abandoned
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post Jan 24 2025, 06:55 PM

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Because of stupid protectionist policies that only allow the shitty car brand from China to come here.

Let them bring Xiaomi Su7 here first then see the difference la.
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post Jan 24 2025, 06:58 PM

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i cannot brain why allow rubbish such as Neta and Jaeco come into Msia

while increasing tariffs for traditional ICE cars like Accord and Camry to be above 200k


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post Jan 24 2025, 06:59 PM

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I saw jav and kimchi brands exiting as well
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post Jan 24 2025, 07:01 PM

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i mean he is not wrong because it happened before

and back then it was like 2-3 brands only and already catastrophic, now it's mentioned to be 15 brands
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post Jan 24 2025, 07:02 PM

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buy, use 3 year

THROW AWAY
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post Jan 24 2025, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Jan 24 2025, 06:52 PM)
Sample case study: Cherry brand when they exited Malaysia last time, leaving Cherry car owners stranded.

Then Cherry make comeback again to Malaysia under different dealers.
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Inb4 Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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post Jan 24 2025, 07:04 PM

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Malaysia majority can splurge on cars. Wont be interested in china CKD.
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post Jan 24 2025, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Jan 24 2025, 06:52 PM)
Sample case study: Cherry brand when they exited Malaysia last time, leaving Cherry car owners stranded.

Then Cherry make comeback again to Malaysia under different dealers.
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See current Chery sales, not far off to pull out again. Who buy neta v now also will be in deep trouble.
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Breed more, more kids = more future buyers, bigger market.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 24 2025, 06:46 PM)
Buy buy buy they said. "Got 7 years warranty mar".
My answer. "If they are still around to honour it".
Good luck.
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Many legacy ice brands will also not be around in 7 years....
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post Jan 24 2025, 07:13 PM

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Treat these cars like low end android china made phones. Every year new model and revision.


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post Jan 24 2025, 07:14 PM

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Ehem... Net... ehem... taaa
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jan 24 2025, 06:59 PM)
I saw jav and kimchi brands exiting as well
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Examples: Ssangyong (Korea) and Mitsuoka (Japan)
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post Jan 24 2025, 07:17 PM

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Cukur proton is Mcdani brand, not ccp
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post Jan 24 2025, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jan 24 2025, 07:08 PM)
See current Chery sales, not far off to pull out again. Who buy neta v now also will be in deep trouble.
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fun Fact.

Volvo... Always lose to MB and BMW. They are still here though. Rarely see Volvo abandoned by the side of the road or in any estate or housing development.

And they despite being an Swedish Cum Sino brand now, stick stick to their guns and did not exit yet.

Shall see how Nissan fares... Exit or swallow up by Honda?

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