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TSpandah
post Jan 14 2025, 09:46 AM, updated 10 months ago

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Recently come across some investment kind of thing, and it bothers me because some elder family members got involved.

https://www.wceiacademy.com/

seems like a finance college, and then there is some sister company call 大优股权, not sure what is the english name, mainly asking ppl to invest money like mlm.

seems like no company ssm, even the college doesn't appear in mqa listing.

seems like not in bnm alert list as well.

Google also doesn't return much results, mostly just their ads and tiktok video.


https://www.thestar.com.my/starpicks/2023/0...t-of-your-money

i am not sure how he can get on stage with warren buffet, and then the GUC affiliate college has only 1 course accredited by mqa ???

i am feeling too skeptical but have no solid evidence to convince the relative if it is not legit, or myself if it is legit... icon_question.gif


appreciate if any insight from fellow forumers, thanks in advance notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 14 2025, 09:46 AM)
Recently come across some investment kind of thing, and it bothers me because some elder family members got involved.

https://www.wceiacademy.com/

seems like a finance college, and then there is some sister company call 大优股权, not sure what is the english name, mainly asking ppl to invest money like mlm.

seems like no company ssm, even the college doesn't appear in mqa listing.

seems like not in bnm alert list as well.

Google also doesn't return much results, mostly just their ads and tiktok video.
https://www.thestar.com.my/starpicks/2023/0...t-of-your-money

i am not sure how he can get on stage with warren buffet, and then the GUC affiliate college has only 1 course accredited by mqa ???

i am feeling too skeptical but have no solid evidence to convince the relative if it is not legit, or myself if it is legit... icon_question.gif
appreciate if any insight from fellow forumers, thanks in advance  notworthy.gif
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Dubious and shady claims.

If it sounds like a scam it is a scam.
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post Jan 14 2025, 01:57 PM
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Can have a picture taken with Barack Obama for just, ....

https://news.cgtn.com/news/324d7a4e30637a63...6d54/share.html

Can even have a lunch date with Warren Buffet for just,

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/25/3-things-tw...en-buffett.html




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post Jan 14 2025, 02:08 PM

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Personally I won't even think about it...

Really doubtful with all these...

Many people loses $$$ from all these scams...

Reason all because of weak hearts & ownself greed
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post Jan 16 2025, 12:22 AM
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Their education arm WCEI academic is under SSM interest scheme mean they are legitime company.
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post Jan 16 2025, 05:57 AM
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Is WCEI Academy as posted by TS in post 1, is of the SAME entity as WCEI Sdn Bhd?

World Chinese Entrepreneurs & Investor Club Sdn Bhd (“WCEI”)
WI Capital Holdings Berhad ("WI Berhad")
WCEI Investment Holding Ltd

SAME name or under the holding company or even a subsidiary of reputable company is not of the SAME legal company

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...RaGEJy55lq7PPub



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post Jan 16 2025, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 16 2025, 05:57 AM)
Is WCEI Academy as posted by TS in post 1, is of the  SAME entity as WCEI Sdn Bhd?

World Chinese Entrepreneurs & Investor Club Sdn Bhd (“WCEI”)
WI Capital Holdings Berhad ("WI Berhad")
WCEI Investment Holding Ltd

SAME name or under the holding company or even a subsidiary of reputable company is not of the SAME legal company
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should be the same since the addresses are mostly the same from the different websites. The investment holding also has office in BVI?? Seychelles? Pardon my ignorance but BVI is mostly related to some money laundering thing right? I guess there are some legit companies investing over there so i could be wrong...

i try to search it seems like all are fairly new established between 2019-2024

is there a way to verify if they are licensed for investment, or deposit collection etc? notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 16 2025, 09:14 AM)
should be the same since the addresses are mostly the same from the different websites.
you pay / transact business with a company, you get receipt from that company, if got issue you get to sue only that company.
NOT involves other companies...eventhough there are many other entities in the SAME address.

The investment holding also has office in BVI?? Seychelles? Pardon my ignorance but BVI is mostly related to some money laundering thing right?
you may get legal recourse to voice your issue and try recover your money from the company that are licensed and regulated to do that "collects and invests" business/activities in Malaysia or had approvals from regulators authorities like BNM or SC and had  collected and issued you the receipts for it.
If you invest in entities that only has office license in BVI or Seychelles, ...when you hv issue, you go there to make report and try to have legal legal helps there.
Malaysia authorities had no control over entities not licensed or regulated in Malaysia. Thus they cannot help much and lawyer fees here should be very expensive for overseas legal recourse.


I guess there are some legit companies investing over there so i could be wrong...
I also think there are too.

i try to search it seems like all are fairly new established between 2019-2024
new or old should not be the priority. I believes it should be, are they licensed and regulated in Malaysia to "collect and invest" or do all those activities to generate that promised returns?.

is there a way to verify if they are licensed for investment, or deposit collection etc? notworthy.gif
you may try to contact them for what you seek to know or ask from your senior family members that had joined. With those details (like license numbers or approval date reference), then verify it with that issuing authorities?
Btw, SSM registration certificates is not a license to "collect and invest" from BNM or SC.

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 16 2025, 06:23 AM)
Suruhanjaya Syarikat Malaysia (SSM)

INTEREST SCHEME
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...RaGEJy55lq7PPub
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aside from this post.
Good lord who the heck use ComicSans for official presentation.

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Someone just approached me on this.
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https://www.mas.gov.sg/investor-alert-list?page=1&q=Wcei

https://www.facebook.com/100063610809375/po...S40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

found this on Investor Alert List from Monetary Authority of Singapore
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post Jul 29 2025, 02:54 PM

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seems like a pyramid scheme collapsing over time...

Whether it is legit or scam, the thing is ppl really become brainwashed and keep trying to drag others to join, like why would you be damn enthusiastic for helping others earn money, like are you a cult or sell your soul to the founder or something?! Damn it just sour relationship when ppl reject, and some with a softer heart will join because don't wanna make a scene, end up if rugi still sour relationship. Goddamn these kind of business techniques...

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post Dec 19 2025, 02:40 PM

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My friend is doing this promoting it like crazy in her FB previously and seems to have changed name or another entity under the same one

I saw the members all from WCEI a few familiar faces now in the group WCG, what does it mean? Idk just saw her keep posting gala dinner fancy dinner in Bangkok, Korea etc

The Stephen Choo guy, she keeps calling him her idol and promoting his book lol 😂

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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 14 2025, 09:46 AM)
Recently come across some investment kind of thing, and it bothers me because some elder family members got involved.

https://www.wceiacademy.com/

seems like a finance college, and then there is some sister company call 大优股权, not sure what is the english name, mainly asking ppl to invest money like mlm.

seems like no company ssm, even the college doesn't appear in mqa listing.

seems like not in bnm alert list as well.

Google also doesn't return much results, mostly just their ads and tiktok video.
https://www.thestar.com.my/starpicks/2023/0...t-of-your-money

i am not sure how he can get on stage with warren buffet, and then the GUC affiliate college has only 1 course accredited by mqa ???

i am feeling too skeptical but have no solid evidence to convince the relative if it is not legit, or myself if it is legit... icon_question.gif
appreciate if any insight from fellow forumers, thanks in advance  notworthy.gif
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Getting Buffett on stage is just claim not as easy as what you think as he is notoriously private

Even Bloomberg can’t get to him to do interview but CNBC only Becky Quick can get private access to do the interview

I been to BRK AGM a few times and yet never get to see him close up

QUOTE(netcrawler @ Jan 16 2025, 12:22 AM)
Their education arm WCEI academic is under SSM interest scheme mean they are legitime company.
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SSM interest scheme is nothing 🤦‍♀️ it maybe a legit registered company by SSM but not legit under SC investment rules structure

There is CMSL, CFP and CFA hence nothing but street talker scammer

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Why do Warren Buffett and Barack Obama take photos with Ponzi scheme scammers in Malaysia?

Warren Buffett took photos with Dr Stephen Choo(朱修健),a fake Dr with doctorate from a degree mill (Apollos University which was closed on 31/12/2024). Stephen Choo is a creator of a Ponzi scheme in Malaysia name WCEI investment or Wi Group.

Barack Obama took photos with Stephen Choo's brother Elven Choo (朱四爷)

They use these photos to scam gullible Malaysians to invest in their Ponzi scheme.

The leaders of the Ponzi scheme even went to take photos at Warren Buffett house (outside) and claim close proximity with Warren Buffett.

This Ponzi bypasses Malaysian regulation by using cash for investment and dividend payment instead of going through the bank ( yes they're money laundering).

They tell their investors that going to get listed in NASDAQ in 2029 therefore they no need to comply with Malaysia security commission compliance.

My question is why Warren Buffett and Barack Obama took photos with these scammers?
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Shaking hands with Obama needed 6,000 yuan (around 900 US dollars), while taking a photo with him cost almost 250,000 yuan (around 40,000 US dollars).

https://news.cgtn.com/news/324d7a4e30637a63...6d54/index.html

28-Year-Old Crypto Founder Pays Record $4.6 Million For Lunch With Warren Buffett

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/201...-will-cost-you/

Have money and willing to pay then can have a photo shoot

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I don't know if Genovasi University College is associated with https://www.genovasi-scope.edu.my/ but the latter is partnering with WCEI Academy which is a ponzi scheme which scams gullible Malaysian money to invest in their company in Seychelles.

Their website www.wceiacademy.com is no longer accessible.

They tell their "investors" that they no need to comply with Malaysian regulations because they're going to get listed in NASDAQ and not Malaysia. They say their money can be 20x return in 2029 when they get listed in NASDAQ. They don't provide a share certificate and are not in the SSM register of members.

The dividend they pay is in CASH and not via bank (they tell their "investors" that they want to save on bank fees.)

Why does Genovasi partner with a fake Dr (Stephen Choo) with Doctorate from Apollos University (a degree mill which closed in 2024)?
Why does The Star report news on a scam academy? (They show investors your article to validate their investment)
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Thestar and some other media also reported that collaboration between WCEI-GUC to introduce professional certification in financial quotient.

That collaboration event happened in Jun 2023.

Was Wcei Academy a "reported" scam by any authorities in Malaysia back in June 2023?
If it had been a reported scam back in 2023, Would GUC collaborated with WCEI Academy back in June 2023?

Even MAS SG, in May 2025, ( 2 years after that Wcei-Guc collaboration reports by Thestar).....only alerted it as "may be or may have been wrongly perceived as being licensed or in any other way authorised or regulated by MAS."

Did not mention it as a scam or are there any reported police report made against WCEI Academy for being a scam?

I could have missed it, could someone direct me to articles linking WCEI Academy had scammed people and police reports had been made and police had taken actions against those criminals?
Thks

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In Nov 2023, Choo was seen standing among some top financial leaders on stage and even The Malaysian Book of Records also recognised WCEI for remarkable achievements in the fields of financial intelligence and education, under the category “Largest Financial Quotient for Entrepreneurs Convocation.”
https://www.thestar.com.my/starpicks/2023/1...reedom-together

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